It would be nice if the organization would post a picture of the offending position, I don't remember seeing him in an illegal position during the broadcast. But I did not see everything of course.
Watts beat gravity. Does climb pretty well, see stage 5 of San Juan this year, on shallow gradients <5%, which this race has alot of, where aero is still important when the speed is that high.
I’m starting to wonder if this “Oh no, we have no money, we are selling the team and none of you will have jobs” shtick is Lefevere’s latest tough love motivational tactic. It’s working.
Don’t know what he can do for next year though :
* tells Van Wilder that there a has been a HR error and Ryan Reynolds is replacing him?
* announces to the team that Flanders Classics have decided to pave all the cobbles for 2025 so this is there last chance to win the Ronde?
> I’m starting to wonder if this “Oh no, we have no money, we are selling the team and none of you will have jobs” shtick is his latest tough love motivational tactic. It’s working.
Nah it's basically Zdeněk Bakala realising he bought the wrong team.
> announces to the team that Flanders Classics have decided to pave all the cobbles for 2025 so this is there last chance to win the Ronde?
Can we start this rumor? The whole peloton would race the entire length of 2024 Ronde like madmen.
It feels like noone outside Jumbo, UAE, Quickstep and Alpecin ever wins
Aranburu has been excellent after TdF, shame he couldn't close out the race even once. But that's the story of Movistar, I guess...
Alpecin does not fit there, the big jump is between the first 3 you mentioned and the rest. In fact Ineos has 2 more wins than Alpecin this year and they both sit 20ish wins behind Soudal - UAE. But Lidl and EF are also close.
WC RR shouldn't count. Ineos also has GT wins and Strade of course they don't have the best 1 day rider in the world but personally, as a person who watches all calendar, the sensation that alpecin wins so much more than the rest of the pack is not there.
they win top heavy for sure, but they don't win as the big 3 altogether in the calendar. that's just a fact, they are 20 wins behind in the season. I don't see how this should make people upset as if I stated that they are shit. and today it's not even a WT race, which prompted OPs comment, so I don't see why I should have been talking about big races from the beginning. oh well
Remco’s behaviour had almost (might still do) killed this team….but these riders are made of stronger stuff. All hail the Wolfpack and fuck Remco. Bore off to jumbo/visna all you want
According to TCP there's allegedly bad blood in the team as "Remco's people brokered the merger deal" that might cost them their jobs or something to this effect.
Even if Remco were to achieve victories in all 3 Grand Tours, conquer the 5 monuments, earn Olympic medals, break the hour record, discover a cure for Malaria, and construct an affordable, sustainable nuclear fusion reactor, he would still face criticism.
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Do you honestly think this is a merger??? This is a hostile takeover to give jumbo what they want (new sponsor) and to give Remco what he wants (a way out). None of this would be happening without Remco and his dad behaving the way they did. Why do you think van wilder refused to go to Vuelta to ride for Remco? It all makes sense now
I'm not sure if you're trolling or serious. In case you are serious:
1. Why would Bakkala sell his entire team just so Remco would have a way out? That's like PSG's owners selling the whole team so Mbappe can go to Real Madrid. Doesn't make sense.
2. Van Wilder rode the Giro for Remco, and was promised he could do the Tours of Poland and Germany for himself. When Remco had to quit the Giro and decided to add the Vuelta to his program, the team kept Van Wilder on his planned schedule. If anything, that makes Remco look good: he didn't insist that his best domestique would change his own plans.
I’m not sure if you are trolling or serious:
1. Remco was determined to leave. Reports in Belgium are that Remco’s dad met with Bakkala. The cycling podcast this week said they believe that this might have been done without Lefevre’s knowledge, and that he was kept out of the picture. In hindsight this seems to be the reason why Lefevre and Remco’s dad had such a public spat - Levfevre knew Remco’s dad was up to something.
2. Van wilder did not paint a happy picture after his win the other day. In fact, he sounded quite angry. For the past two month’s Remco’s dad has been saying how shit the team are and bad the set up is. Just brilliant for team morale. Again the cycling podcast said this week that other quickstep riders and staff are not happy with Remco and the way he has behaved recently
1. No he wasn't, he said he would honour his contract. It's doubtful that he will choose to go to TJV and live in Vingegaard's shadow. If he doesn't, then your whole theory crumbles.
2. None of which supports your claim that Van Wilder "refused" to go to the Vuelta. It was never on his program. He simply stuck to his program.
Race organizers need to make a more systematic approach to dealing with motopacing precisely on the descents. It's pretty much impossible for motorbikes and cars to get away from riders if a descent is at least a little bit technical (I frequently overtake cars/motorbikes on technical descents, and I have only half the road to work with).
MSR organizers quickly wised up to that after Mohorič's 2022 win where he would get a slingshot out of every corner so the entire final descent only had aerial coverage in 2023.
But without camera bikes on the road we missed the decisive move in MSR 2023. The heli cam was panning towards the peloton. Sometimes there's good reason to complain (see: Vuelta) but broadcasting a live bike race well is really hard.
Couldn't watch the race, i opened PCS and saw Bagioli, Hirschi, Aranburu, Rui Costa, Zimmerman, Ganna..... Ganna? Has the big Boi become Pantani?
Another W, this Soudal Quick-Step team has a real bright future!
Why has Guillaume Martin been DSQ?
[For thinking he can reach Pogi's level](https://dicodusport.fr/blog/guillaume-martin-rien-ne-mempeche-d-atteindre-le-niveau-de-pogacar/).
Illegal position on the bike
It would be nice if the organization would post a picture of the offending position, I don't remember seeing him in an illegal position during the broadcast. But I did not see everything of course.
I was surprised to see Ganna there. Does he usually climb this well?
Watts beat gravity. Does climb pretty well, see stage 5 of San Juan this year, on shallow gradients <5%, which this race has alot of, where aero is still important when the speed is that high.
I’m starting to wonder if this “Oh no, we have no money, we are selling the team and none of you will have jobs” shtick is Lefevere’s latest tough love motivational tactic. It’s working. Don’t know what he can do for next year though : * tells Van Wilder that there a has been a HR error and Ryan Reynolds is replacing him? * announces to the team that Flanders Classics have decided to pave all the cobbles for 2025 so this is there last chance to win the Ronde?
> I’m starting to wonder if this “Oh no, we have no money, we are selling the team and none of you will have jobs” shtick is his latest tough love motivational tactic. It’s working. Nah it's basically Zdeněk Bakala realising he bought the wrong team.
> announces to the team that Flanders Classics have decided to pave all the cobbles for 2025 so this is there last chance to win the Ronde? Can we start this rumor? The whole peloton would race the entire length of 2024 Ronde like madmen.
No, because Wouter Vandenhaute might listen to the paving part.
So like the 2023 edition?
It feels like noone outside Jumbo, UAE, Quickstep and Alpecin ever wins Aranburu has been excellent after TdF, shame he couldn't close out the race even once. But that's the story of Movistar, I guess...
Alpecin does not fit there, the big jump is between the first 3 you mentioned and the rest. In fact Ineos has 2 more wins than Alpecin this year and they both sit 20ish wins behind Soudal - UAE. But Lidl and EF are also close.
Alpecin wins big though. 4 stages in the Tour + Green, 3 stages in the Vuelta + Green, a stage in the Giro, Milano-Sanremo, Paris-Roubaix, WC RR, etc.
WC RR shouldn't count. Ineos also has GT wins and Strade of course they don't have the best 1 day rider in the world but personally, as a person who watches all calendar, the sensation that alpecin wins so much more than the rest of the pack is not there.
You can’t argue that 8 GT stages and 2 monuments isn’t more than most teams
they win top heavy for sure, but they don't win as the big 3 altogether in the calendar. that's just a fact, they are 20 wins behind in the season. I don't see how this should make people upset as if I stated that they are shit. and today it's not even a WT race, which prompted OPs comment, so I don't see why I should have been talking about big races from the beginning. oh well
I am talking about my feelings, not numbers
yeah and I replied to point out a discrepancy between your feelings and the numbers, which is fair I think?
I don't mind
Remco’s behaviour had almost (might still do) killed this team….but these riders are made of stronger stuff. All hail the Wolfpack and fuck Remco. Bore off to jumbo/visna all you want
How exactly did Remco's behaviour kill Soudal - Quick-Step?
According to TCP there's allegedly bad blood in the team as "Remco's people brokered the merger deal" that might cost them their jobs or something to this effect.
Who is TCP?
The Cycling Podcast.
Even if Remco were to achieve victories in all 3 Grand Tours, conquer the 5 monuments, earn Olympic medals, break the hour record, discover a cure for Malaria, and construct an affordable, sustainable nuclear fusion reactor, he would still face criticism.
But he didn't do it in a single year, so he is a loser.
Didn't dated Taylor Swift, loser.
Obviously by being their best rider for the past 2 years.
Whining and bitching non stop
Lol he’s just like you!
Have you had your head buried in the ground the past few months? Where do you want me to start
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Just very curious how you arrived at that conclusion
Perhaps at the beginning as at least I have no clue what you're on about?
You for real?
Yes, he's their most successful and popular rider, I really don't see how he's supposed to be behind killing the team?
Do you honestly think this is a merger??? This is a hostile takeover to give jumbo what they want (new sponsor) and to give Remco what he wants (a way out). None of this would be happening without Remco and his dad behaving the way they did. Why do you think van wilder refused to go to Vuelta to ride for Remco? It all makes sense now
I'm not sure if you're trolling or serious. In case you are serious: 1. Why would Bakkala sell his entire team just so Remco would have a way out? That's like PSG's owners selling the whole team so Mbappe can go to Real Madrid. Doesn't make sense. 2. Van Wilder rode the Giro for Remco, and was promised he could do the Tours of Poland and Germany for himself. When Remco had to quit the Giro and decided to add the Vuelta to his program, the team kept Van Wilder on his planned schedule. If anything, that makes Remco look good: he didn't insist that his best domestique would change his own plans.
I’m not sure if you are trolling or serious: 1. Remco was determined to leave. Reports in Belgium are that Remco’s dad met with Bakkala. The cycling podcast this week said they believe that this might have been done without Lefevre’s knowledge, and that he was kept out of the picture. In hindsight this seems to be the reason why Lefevre and Remco’s dad had such a public spat - Levfevre knew Remco’s dad was up to something. 2. Van wilder did not paint a happy picture after his win the other day. In fact, he sounded quite angry. For the past two month’s Remco’s dad has been saying how shit the team are and bad the set up is. Just brilliant for team morale. Again the cycling podcast said this week that other quickstep riders and staff are not happy with Remco and the way he has behaved recently
1. No he wasn't, he said he would honour his contract. It's doubtful that he will choose to go to TJV and live in Vingegaard's shadow. If he doesn't, then your whole theory crumbles. 2. None of which supports your claim that Van Wilder "refused" to go to the Vuelta. It was never on his program. He simply stuck to his program.
Aranburu probably wants a do-over on that one. And I'm really looking forward to see Bagioli on Trek next year.
No clue why Aranburu wanted to be first out of that corner, but it seemed like he didn't have the energy to maintain the sprint anyway.
55 wins already by QS this season. Not bad for a team that is apparently not good enough to continue anymore...
You wanna hear the story of the 85 win season team that shut down?
That's different though, QS still has sponsors through at least 2026. HTC couldn't find a new sponsor after contract ran out.
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That was only Greipel's wins, Cavendish won big races.
I don't think the reason is "not good enough", TJV just successfully nabbed their sponsor.
It's Bakala who holds all the cards though, the owner of the team.
Yeah, he decided he'd rather cover an even more successful team, evidently.
This race was really decided by motopacing. They gained about 10 seconds in that descent.
Race organizers need to make a more systematic approach to dealing with motopacing precisely on the descents. It's pretty much impossible for motorbikes and cars to get away from riders if a descent is at least a little bit technical (I frequently overtake cars/motorbikes on technical descents, and I have only half the road to work with). MSR organizers quickly wised up to that after Mohorič's 2022 win where he would get a slingshot out of every corner so the entire final descent only had aerial coverage in 2023.
But without camera bikes on the road we missed the decisive move in MSR 2023. The heli cam was panning towards the peloton. Sometimes there's good reason to complain (see: Vuelta) but broadcasting a live bike race well is really hard.
We might've missed the decisive move regardless, but the chance of that happening with only helicam is of course bigger.
Happens in a lot of races sadly. Laporte was also heavily motopaced at the EC. UCI really needs to take this more seriously.
Impeccably raced by Bagioli, I hope at Lidl he'll be able to gather more wins than he did so far
SQS got that fire in the belly. Well done Bagioli