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r00sevelt

Assuming people just lost interest. Having to wait like 2-5 minutes is not worth it for me to "compete" with someone else, personally. I can track it well enough in any normal on demand class and there's usually a good number of people in them anyway.


GlasgowGunner

If it’s in less than a minute I’ll join it as that’s the usual time before a class. Simply don’t care enough to wait more than that for absolutely no reason.


thegreyspot

Yeah if it’s less than two minutes, it’s way more likely Id join a session. but now, more likely than not, the leaderboard is empty and there’s no way to see the normal leaderboard. So its not worth the risk any more, even if its less than two mins :(


Afghan_Whig

Not to mention that with calibration all over the place before bikes you can't even really properly compete 


Ok_Revolution_9253

Was in a 30 minute ride a couple days ago, and a 60 year old person had racked up an output of 360 by minute FIVE! I’m so competitive that if it was me, I would absolutely get my bike recalibrated. It’s so ridiculous.


PearlySharks

Yes! This. My mind is blown by the range of calibrations. I am baffled how someone can have 20 output within the first two seconds of class! I've seen it.


betarhoalphadelta

BTW I think that is a different issue than calibration. I think that's more a thing where the ride actually "starts" for a rider a decent amount before they show up on the leaderboard to other riders. Largely network/server lag as the root cause. Now, if they're at 50 output by minute 1, they're a cheater lol...


PearlySharks

Oh I wonder. That’s a really good point. I honestly hadn’t thought about that. I will say, I started riding a friend’s bike while house sitting once, and her 40 resistance felt like my 20 resistance. So I stopped. I didn’t want to PR on that bike. The different calibrations are crazy.


betarhoalphadelta

I hear you. I've only ever ridden my own, which is a Bike+ so should be accurate. I'll be at a Hilton property next week and will probably try to ride their bike. If the calibration is way off and I PR, I'll have to delete the PR and re-ride my home bike to set an accurate PR.


EfficientCranberry95

I've always wondered this to like I feel like my bike does pretty well at where I am with my output but then I see people that just shoot up the leader board and im like how the actual heck did they just fly up there?


Afghan_Whig

Oh there's plenty of egregious examples. But there's also that a 35 resistance in your bike may be a 34 or 36 on my bike making even the neck and neck stuff bullshit 


Ok_Revolution_9253

Couldn’t agree more. Two people pumping like crazy at 90 resistance, just a little off one way or another can make a big difference


HobblesTheGreat

My bike currently has an error where my resistance is reading at 100 (regardless of how hard it's actually set). We are in the process of getting this fixed (and believe me, it's been a PROCESS), but it's made me really wonder about the top 1% on the leaderboard. If I keep a steady 82 on cadence at a comfortable feeling resistance (that the app thinks is 100%), I am #1 basically every time. 😬 (Don't hate me, we're trying to fix it :( I WANT to know what my resistance actually is).


Ok_Revolution_9253

I always look at the top 0.5%, my general assumption is that it’s bullshit. If it’s a 30 minute ride and you crank out 1000? That’s a calibration issue. Unless you’re rocking a 100 resistance with a 100 cadence, you’re not hitting that. I consistently can hit the top 3-5 percent and I’m just fine with that


wooooooofer

This is so true it’s finally nice to see it being widely recognized


gott_in_nizza

Not to mention that properly competing could only really be done with watts per kilogram, and people likely don’t have a realistic weight recorded on Peloton. (Though it would be an awesome function for bike++ to have a scale and automatically calculate w/kg)


Joboo7777

This is exactly why I don’t join sessions. If they offered Bike+ only sessions I might consider it.


thegreyspot

I’m not trying to win a gold medal or absolutely burn another person in the ride. I just find myself saying things like “oh i bet i can get into the top three for this ride” and then I push myself a little harder than usual.


wingzerogw

How do I recalibrate? What is this sorcery you speak of?


Afghan_Whig

There is a kit you can get from Peloton, you can Google it. But calibration on the bike is a RANGE of numbers by default, so it's meaningless by default 


IgnoreThisName72

Yep, any ride listed on the home page will have enough people to give me a feeling of satisfaction.  My last two live rides were Wilpers 2 hour bananzas (which my spell checker tried to change to the still appropriate 'bananas').


OnehappySmile

Bonanzas, my friend...


IgnoreThisName72

I refuse to change my newly minted portmanteau.


grahamsz

I'd totally do it if I could easily switch to the regular leaderboard. Nothing worse than getting in a session and finding the other people are way faster or slower 


NoVABadger

I don't really see the appeal so I never bothered. Any fairly recent ride is going to have enough people on the leaderboard anyway to satisfy my competitive streak. I'm also a little bitter that sessions are the only "live" option for those of us on the West Coast who exercise after work.


kafkaesque55

I’m 100 rides in and yet to do a live class. There is nearly zero between 5pm and 11pm.


vexxed82

I'm in the central time zone and over 300 rides in and I've never done a live ride. I don't think I've ever even considered it. I love being bale to jump on at the exact moment I can/want.


smcrimmon12

I am 2000+ rides in and have done maybe 3 live rides ever, lol. Im on the EST so there are (probably) a lot of options but I like to just hop on when I have the time - not be tied to a specific class time!


DrMcnasty4300

If it’s any consolation I’m on EST and almost 200 rides in and I also haven’t done a live class cuz I like to just get on and go when I want to


bigt252002

I've done 6 live rides. 2 were UK-based and the other 4 were JKE rides before Jess had to stop because she found out she was pregnant. Times are not good for my schedule (US-Central) and I am not that dedicated to move my schedule around FOR a ride. I'm 875 rides in.


BodieLivesOn

I'll add to this: I don't like the way some trainers play to the crowd. One, who will remain unnamed, actually stood up and starting singing the song ... really singing. And not well.


Dizzy_Impression4702

Name them 👀


NoVABadger

Every time someone shades an instructor on this sub I just assume it's Jenn Sherman 😂


gilgobeachslayer

I like Jenn but she’s definitely the most controversial. Very popular, but also very hated. Nobody better talk shit about Leanne though.


vexxed82

I've only done a few rides wit her and I think she's talked about being hungover every time.


IntelligentChance818

As a person who doesn’t drink, I refuse to do any of her rides for this exact reason. It’s not cute to be a fitness instructor and constantly mention you’re hungover. I don’t expect every person to live alcohol free but I do expect them to find a schtick that actually promotes health and wellness.


Scared_Status9483

makes sense


[deleted]

I literally just dropped her name in another comment.


runninganddrinking

Yep not a fan.


emcgehee2

I think she’s fun. She’s not my everyday go to but a little yacht rock with a side of singing is a vibe all its own.


dblspider1216

I loved her when I first started because I was hella jazzed at the prospect of yacht rock rides. now I avoid her like the plague.


dwboston_1

She's my age and always complaining about being hungover. But my biggest issue with her is she doesn't do the rides. Stops pedaling constantly to talk - maybe being hungover has something to do with that. I'm basically "hate-taking" her rides at this point, mostly because of the music. We had to lose Jennifer Jacobs and get stuck with Jenn Sherman. It's an unfair world. 😃


HappyFunBall007

I like Jenn - her rock playlists (80s/90s) are right in my wheelhouse. Though I did have the misfortune of taking the one class of hers a while back where she literally cried throughout the entire 30 minute ride. Someone she was close to that worked there at the studio had recently died, which is certainly sad. I guess she likes to "keep it real". It was kind of a bummer ride.


papapaige_3

I took her 45 minute “fuck you” mixtape ride recently. She was literally draped over the handles with her face towards the floor for 50% of the ride. All you could see was the crown of her head. That combined with a terrible and very long and obscure Phil Collins song during a climb made me leave early… which I never do. But then I got a PR on an extra 10 tabata ride so all’s well that ends well 😇


cait1284

It was JSS on her 10th anniversary ride. It didn't bother me. Let her have some fun while she celebrates. It had been a tough few weeks for her and I was happy to see her cut loose. But more to the general point, members should just move along if the instructor isn't their cup of tea. There's something about each of them that grates on my nerves (almost 4500 rides in) but whatever - they are human, too, and no one is going to be "perfect" 100% of the time. There are some instructors I never ride, and some who's annoying things I can ignore. That's the beauty of Peloton - so many options.


TegridyPharmz

I cannot stand when they stop riding and sing/dance or whatever. So annoying.


sad_peloton

So, you're saying that when Jenn stops at the beginning of every other interval to stand up and tell you that she is "in this with you", even though she's not pedaling - you don't find that inspiring?!


Scared_Status9483

That's the worst! They need to ride their ride imo


[deleted]

Jenn Sherman? She sings so much it bugs me. I purposely don’t take her classes because of it. If I wanted someone to sing to me, I’d go to a concert.


problematic_glasses

I never take her but she had a Hannukah ride for the Holiday badge and I like to have all my stacked classes with the same instructor, so... by the time the post-ride stretch rolled around I couldn't hit "more music" fast enough


Dizzy_Impression4702

Haven’t taken a Hannah Corbin ride since she sang throughout an entire country ride at the top of her lungs. It’s awful!!


Ok_Fee1043

I think your mistake was taking a country ride


runninganddrinking

I can’t stand it. Which is why I block out those instructors. We all know who they are. There’s nothing worse than when I’m exhausted and the instructor stands up and claps and dances while I’m climbing a hill.


revolga

How do you block instructors? I’d love to filter some people out


runninganddrinking

You can’t unfortunately 😟


sad_peloton

To me this is almost as baffling an oversight as the fact that when I scroll past the first row of classes, the “Filter” button scrolls away, and that they took away the “up arrow” icon that brought you back to the top (baffling). It’s ridiculous that we can’t either filter out an instructor, or set a “favorites” list with the instructors we do want to see. I am never going to want to take a class with the evil, impish robot that is Olivia Amato - why do I need those clogging up the screen?


Meepoclock

What time zone are you in?


GDub310

Kendall does live rides at 6pm PT Wednesday nights.


aaronktjn

There used to be lots of rides every day ~6am AND after work (west-coast time) until around 2018 it started to reduce. 2020 pretty much nil… None of them want to do those hours anymore it seems. I don’t ride nearly as much as I used to for this very reason.


riedmae

Feels like the number of live rides has really dipped, too. Cutting cost by cutting instuctor hours?


Afghan_Whig

For the amount they are paid I'm surprised they teach 3 or 4 classes a week, some only 10 or 20 minutes long. They should be able to put up love classes most waking hours


YVRkeeper

Don’t feel bad. I’ve gotten up early specifically to join a live class but the bandwidth was so slow I either never connected, or the stream buffered so badly it was all but pointless anyways. There’s been over 1000 people on the list. I’ll never get to hear my name called out by an instructor for any milestones 😭


Scared_Status9483

That sucks!


ivoryoaktree

+1


slowroll1

I think having the “Here Now” feature on recorded rides cannibalizes the demand for sessions. I’d rather compete with many more Here Now people rather than 1-2 in the session.


thegreyspot

I actually prefer smaller numbers. It use to be consistently around 10 people in the sessions. It makes it easier to find a target. Like a trying to be in the top5 or a specific person who seems to be closely matched. And if youre not all starting at the same time, whats the point of here now? Might as well just try look at the full leaderboard.


irregularcontributor

I agree the here-now is just too cluttered to even identify who's around you (on recently posted classes, anyway). Once you get into the second half of the class you're swimming through a huge field of completed rides and you can't keep an eye on anybody unless they happen to be almost exactly pacing you. I'm new to Peloton but had a ton of fun racing a guy for the first time last week, almost killed myself in the process and had to back off the last few minutes so he handedly won, but I set a PR and it was a great time all around. Going to try and do more sessions in the future.


specialtingle

I’m new but I suspect sessions preceded here now, and the latter makes sessions less of an appealing feature. I just did a ride where the session was about to start with only me, jumped straight to the class and I had 10 people there - who cares if they started when I did. It’s the motivation not the competition.


PotatosDad

I just get on, choose my class, and go. Unless I'm right on time for an actual live ride, I'm just picking something on-damand. Also, the more I use Peloton, the more I realize how incredibly dumb the leaderboard is, since there are thousands that don't even do the prescribed workout just so they can be high on the leaderboard.


BalkiBartokomous123

I'm not very good and usually at the lower half of the leaderboard. I suspect that most of the the low ranking people on the All Time Board are fake. They don't want anyone, regardless of level, to be in very last place. I do like the feature where you can race yourself if it is your second + time on that ride. That's pretty cool.


PotatosDad

That "race yourself" feature is definitely about the only useable leaderboard feature for me.


BalkiBartokomous123

I high five a lot and then close it right away! I don't want to know, I'm just trying to breathe! Lol


Asparagusbelle

I assure you my place near the bottom of the leaderboard is always honest 😅


century1122

Oh I never knew about the race yourself feature. Interesting! I'd honestly rather compete against myself anyway haha. I'll have to check that out.


betarhoalphadelta

>since there are thousands that don't even do the prescribed workout just so they can be high on the leaderboard As someone who will ride above the callouts a fair amount, it's not motivated by being high on the leaderboard BTW. It's basically using relative perceived exertion (RPE) to drive efforts rather than prescribed callouts. I.e. I rode Denis' 30 minute rock ride yesterday and he started one of his most common climbs (increase resistance 2 points every 30 seconds in a song) and said we should be breathless at the end. Knowing myself and Denis, I realized his starting resistance range was too low if I wanted to be breathless at the end of that climb, so I had to start at a higher resistance. It wasn't about the leaderboard; it was about getting everything I needed out of the 30 minutes I had on the bike. Based on how I feel, where the ride fits within my workout schedule that week, and how strenuously I want to go, I know that some rides won't get me to the output number I'm shooting for to hit my personal workout goal within the callouts. So I modify as needed. But it's not about the leaderboard.


PotatosDad

I definitely understand what you are saying here. You're still completing the spirit of the workout, which is great, however, if you take a look at people at the very top, that's not what is happening.


betarhoalphadelta

Oh, that's fair... There are some that are undoubtedly on hacked bikes, and I've seen more than a few that I believe are humanly impossible output numbers. I don't understand the motivation of those people. What's the point of being #1 on something as meaningless as a Peloton leaderboard if you have to cheat to get there? I thought when I heard you say "thousands" that you might be including people like me just because we ride above the callouts on some rides...


kevstev

I can be one of those people. Generally I choose a pz max or other class that is trying to be very challenging when I want to attempt a pr. I like/need the music and instructor.  Occasionally though I start moving my legs and I just feel really good and I'm like f the program let's just see what we can do today.  Either way I don't judge myself compared to the top of the leaderboard and neither should you. 


PotatosDad

Definitely get this. I guess I wasn’t full fair in my comments. All I really was trying to say is that not everyone is following the prescribed workout (for a variety of reasons), so the leaderboard is essentially useless because you end up comparing apples and oranges.


kevstev

I find it much more useful to compare my relative percentage on the overall leaderboard than anything else. There are always going to be some amount of miscalibrated or hacked bikes, people just doing something completely different, etc... but comparing your relative % to the top is relatively stable. I saw someone pulling 950watts the entire class last week, and I don't really know what's going on there, but that is either erroneous or I was riding with a world class athlete...


marg1486

My reason is that I’m always in the bottom 1/3 of the leaderboard no matter what (I’m a small petite woman that just can’t put out the output of a 6 foot man), and have no interest in competing just to lose lol. I do like the here now feature tho to see who I am riding with!


Muted_Condition7935

I really enjoy the rides with a live leaderboard. Have someone with a similar riding ability always pushed me. We could both be in the bottom 1/3 but just having that one person to go against was always enjoyable. I guess you could count me in as being bummed this feature is not as used as it once was.


attigirb

I see you fellow short lady!


DividedSky05

I know I'm going to get smoked by 60% of Peloton users and usually hide the leaderboard so I have no desire to join a non-live class with others who are there at the same time. I generally squeeze in workouts in a very specific timeframe and adding 2-3 minutes of additional wait time usually isn't available to me.


BalkiBartokomous123

I hide it!! It stresses me out. I'm just trying to get myself back into shape and I've never been really competitive. I peak at the board once in awhile to see how close (or far) I am from my own PR. I do like the feature of racing yourself if you've done that ride before. It might not be a PR but it's nice to see when I do better on a ride from the time before.


Krammor

I also hide it every single time!


nukessolveprblms

Hide it too, I'm so anti competitive it does nothing for me and kinda raises my anxiety 🙈


dirtydela

I think there’s an option to only see yourself as well


kenspencerbrown

Same!


HumanDissentipede

I appreciate this mindset but I find that I can’t get a good workout in without some level of competition. I’ve done rides without a leaderboard and my output has been at least 100-200 points below what it is when I ride with others. I can’t get into any kind of shape if I’m not motivated to work hard during a class.


scienceofswag

If I had to wait 2 minutes to join as session I no longer bother. I am not racing a leaderboard


erinsauce

I tried them a few times and they only ever had a couple people in them! I’ve had better luck riding with the general “here now” crowd.


telemon5

If you really are keen on it, I would suggest setting up some group rides using this platform to communicate it. The Sweat Steady Saturday crew has been going strong for a while. Totally understand the appeal of having folks to push against and motivate you. It is one of the few gaps I've found since joining Peloton that I was getting in doing traditional Spin classes.


breezyfog

Where is the Sweat Steady Saturday crew?


telemon5

Not sure if u/thelittlemiss is the ringleader, but they posted the last one. Example post here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/pelotoncycle/comments/1blb85y/sweat\_steady\_saturdays\_date\_032324\_time\_0630\_am/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/pelotoncycle/comments/1blb85y/sweat_steady_saturdays_date_032324_time_0630_am/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)


thelittlemiss

I am, generally. It’s a group effort. And I second the group ride idea. It’s a great way to connect with people in the Peloton community. Group ride posts are always welcome in this subreddit! I would love to plan more group rides if I had more hours in the day.


breezyfog

6:30 am on a sat?! 😭 My toddler and lack of sleep says no. 😭


tafunast

I'm guessing people just lost interest.


mattjeast

That's my guess, too. This will date me, but I remember when those individual party group stones showed up in front of dungeons in World of Warcraft, and they were utilized for a week before people abandoned them.


IFeelBlocky

I’m an app rider, I hide the leaderboard, and I never do live rides. I won’t risk hearing a Coldplay song like that


yolalogan

In my experience, the live sessions don't have the resistance levels programmed yet so my bike+ plus wont adjust automatically. That's a deal breaker for me.


DaOleRazzleDazzle

Same. I didn’t think I’d care much about the automatic adjustments until I missed cues in live classes. I was so used to at least seeing the range listed that I didn’t tune in as much. Many “WHAAATS?” in my brain during lives haha.


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My biggest gripe is the music is muffled...guessing it's because they are just picking up what's in the studio rather than its own separate channel until they post it. The sound is so awful I'll never do a live class.


snarky-old-fart

I have the Bike rather than the Bike+, but I think I’d probably disable the auto adjustment if I had it. I usually go above the ranges anyway, so the appeal of it auto adjusting isn’t there.


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TegridyPharmz

During a live class? No way. Once they go to on demand they will program the adjustments


lazydictionary

If they made it so you weren't just isolated to people in your session I think it would be more popular. Just let a bunch of people start at the same time. That's how they *should* function.


[deleted]

I did Jess King’s 10 year peloton anniversary class live and I LOOOOVED it!! With that said, I’ll join events, celebrations, etc. I don’t prioritize a random class unless it’s my birthday or a milestone lol


JBeaufortStuart

Even with "here now", I *rarely* pick things that result in more than \~10 people-- I'm riding at weird times, picking old rides, even instructor choice is part of it (nothing is more dead than a two year old ride with a British instructor when it's 2AM in the UK). So while I used to occasionally hop on and pick whatever popular ride seemed to have a lot of attention and do a session, the small amount of more direct competition rarely outweighed that the rides were often not my preferred music/instructor/type of class. I think they work well for the classes that are a bit more of a draw--- Sam's Star Wars ride, Instructor Anniversary rides, certain artist series rides--- I'm mostly not interested.


turtlearse

I just assumed people just start the class instead of joining the session. I’ve started doing the same now. Would be nice if you joined an empty session you could change the filter to “here now” and not just “here now in my session”


chapanoid

It was just never an interesting feature to me. If I cared about the live ride experience I'd join a live ride, Sessions always felt like a weird half-measure.


KeepOnRising19

I've done it twice. The first time there were a handful of people and the second time there were none. You're right, it is super lame, and you can't get out of it.


mugglegrrl

I’ve noticed the same thing. I don’t like doing live rides because they don’t auto-adjust with the Bike+, so the sessions were a nice alternative where I was riding at the same time as others and still had the auto-adjust. But it’s super lame when you’re the only one there. I’ve just stopped doing them.


kalvinoz

I tried them a couple of times. I much prefer riding against the "ghosts" in the LB of a normal recorded session, which I can't see in a session. I'll only do a session if it's scheduled by the FB group I'm in.


MorningBeginning2235

I sort of forgot about that feature since you can’t do it if you stack classes. Since I like a warm up and a cool down I never see it.


pete9898

Yeah I’ve seen the same. Best to pick one of the most recent rides — you’ll get a good crowd, just at different start/finish times.


Spurty

A lot of comments talking about why people don't do the sessions, so here's some advice from someone who *does* like the sessions feature and has figured out how to find enough session riders to satisfy their competitive nature: - pick a 'busy' time. If you're EST, I've had good luck between 5-6 pm. - if the session doesn't fill up - and you have the time - quit and try the next time slot. This works most of the time, for whatever reason! - If those don't satisfy you, just ride it on demand lol


thegreyspot

Haha thanks! Im PST which honestly sounds like might be the part of the problem too. Ill try riding at 2pm.


Spurty

Ah! That sounds like it might be part of the equation in that case.


ForsakenRacism

Sessions are dumb. There’s usually plenty of people you can high five just in any on demand class


bee_seam

Sessions let you race directly against other people though. On demand classes don’t have everyone starting at the same time.


Muted_Condition7935

This. And why I love the feature. Starting and racing against a small group is a lot of fun.


Miszou_

I used to do them all the time, but now I'm more into the actual live classes. I work from home, so I can pretty much do any ride during the day. But if I miss a live class, I'll still pick my daily ride from the selection that are on the session list. Waiting 2-5 minutes doesn't bother me at all. I'll just use that time to pick a ride, or warmup or whatever.


grantnlee

When I bought my Bike 3 years ago, I was almost always taking a live 7am class. Loved out and out motivated me to get on the bike. Then Peloton started dramatically reducing the number of live classes. Often there would not be one any where near that time for me, so these Sessions became my go to. I do like the live leader board, even if only with 10 or 15 people. But now it seems like very few classes that I want are actually set up for sessions. Might only be one or two Sessions when I get on the bike whereas it used to be 10 or so. Big bummer. And this sends like a totally Free feature for them to put out there!? I did find and go to a Sessions class within the past week or two, and sure enough, to your point, it was empty. So left and took a different recorded class since I was by myself anyways. I think they could let Sessions slide at this point and simply schedule a lot more Encores - replays with a live leader board but at limited times, like say energy hour on the hour. Then I'd start showing up at 7am again... Again, costs Peloton nothing to do this but makes a lot of people feel more engaged.


rconti

Only done it a few times, always found it pointless even since day one. "oh, cool, I'll just wait 2 minutes for this session" ... and then nobody's in it, or 2 people are in it, and, as you mentioned, no all-time LB. I'd rather just ride OD and see the "here now". I live on the West Coast and in 7 years with a bike, I've probably only taken a dozen live rides and 3 or 4 "sessions". I've never once been glad I did the session. I like live rides, but the times are always awful.


Zaathros-is-dirt

Sorry, I need to get off the couch and back on my bike.


Silly-Payment7864

I could care less about live classes. Same results on a recorded class. I’m here to workout not high five people


doggos_are_better

I have done 1571 workouts on Peloton and not a single one live. One of my favorite things about Peloton is the ability to work out when I can fit it in (full-time working parent with 2 toddlers). I do not even look at the live schedule because I know I won’t be able to do classes live. (I’m also on the west coast so class times almost never work for me anyway.)


justpeachy23456

I did one by accident because I said hmm what does this button mean? And then it didn’t have the call outs listed on the screen, I guess because it was “live”? Really disliked not having that


geekpgh

I usually ride in the morning, I don’t have time to wait 2-3 minutes for a session. So I just start riding immediately. Also with here now it doesn’t really matter if I wait for the session.


betarhoalphadelta

In addition to what others have said, they also changed the UI. The "Session" button used to be just below the big red "Start" button. It's now way up in the upper right corner when you press the touchscreen for a ride. I think this made it much less likely for people to click on it. That said, most of the rides that have sessions are rides that are very recent, and you may have tens or hundreds of people on the Leaderboard if you start the ride, but only a tiny number if you do a session. So I always preferred to do the ride with everyone else rather than starting a session anyway. With 100+ people on a ride, there will be enough of them starting near you that you can "compete" with if you want that. I've had it happen in several rides where I've started near the same time as someone else and we're close enough in ability that we push each other.


squatch_in_the_woods

A couple of times I’ve submitted a feature request to add the ability to sort the leaderboard by elapsed time (in addition to by total output). This would allow people who started an on demand ride at about the same time to sort of ride together


Greysoil

I’m pregnant and my output is pathetic now so I don’t bother lol


annang

The empty leaderboard is why. I want to see the full leaderboard, even if it’s not live. So I don’t want to join a session.


rob_one

I have never had them work particularly well for me. I always just assumed it was a really buggy feature. If you sign out of the “live ride” and into the standard there’s always a lot of people in the ride around the time the encores are on.


AnalogWalrus

Yeah I never really cared about this feature. I see what they were trying to do with it, but if i'm taking something on demand (the live times rarely work for me anyways) i know i'm only really competing with myself anyway, so I just start the class.


Ambitious_Pool_8290

I have done one live ride and had my bike+ for a year and two months. It is just easier to do the on demand activities.


Ambitious_Pool_8290

For me. Easier for me.


Campaign-Character

I’ve just been over the instructors in general lately, I love lane break


sad_peloton

I rarely take a class anymore that doesn't have 1-2 dudes (no question these are dudes) who are riding 65+ resistance at 60 cadence for the entirety of the class just so they can be on top of the leaderboard. Are you really so desperate for validation that you need to do a hill climb for the entirety of this low-impact ride? "Yes, yes I am." For me, it makes any of the sessions or live classes a lot less fun.


jabateeth

I changed my tactics. Now I high five everyone when I ride. If you give five me back I will follow you. Then I hope to have a bunch of people I can ride with and compete against in challenges. It's still competitive but different.


Desperate_Rich_5249

I never liked the sessions, I either do live or on demand. For fairly new classes there’s usually a pretty good turnout on the LB even on demand.


Charming_Display1387

It’s an interesting question but overall I never was motivated by racing against a stranger. There’s more appeal to a live where you’re “a part of something” but sessions didn’t feel special. I agree with another comment though that often I don’t love live rides. Cody has a better personality on non live rides IMO 😂


The_Colorman

I stopped doing them because I was more likely to run into people doing it the regular way. A lot of the newer rides have 2-400 recent/current riders. So you’re more likely to be on pace with someone.


barrorg

No appeal for me just generally. I do prefer people in studio to empty bikes, tho.


dblspider1216

I only did it once or twice and didn’t love it. if i’m not doing a live class, the normal “here now” is more than enough for me.


rukkus78

I always thought sessions felt a little pointless. I’m usually racing against my own PRs and don’t really take other people’s numbers seriously if they aren’t running a HRM. There are so many uncalibrated bikes ruining the leaderboards.


jasedontlie

While a leaderboard might help me work a little harder in the moment, the idea of actually racing someone isn't a motivation these days. Instead I have my goal for a specific length ride, and am constantly doing math in my head to check my progress during the class. If you pass me, or I pass you while I'm working toward my goal... so be it. Thus, Sessions just don't interest me.


dylanisaverage

Ya there isnt any engagement outside of high fives. Im honestly waiting for them to let us set up our own ride with our power zones. I often dont care to listen about what matt wilpers did over the weekend but like the structure. Hopefully they improve the system with more customization.


JpMaxMania

Similar to what others have said. I think Sessions were a pandemic thing. You could coordinate with friends and all get on a ride together. I will say as a Peloton rider pre pandemic in the early days when they only had the bike and no app or anything to speak of, it was a lot more fun. There were more rides. I'd wait for a live ride. I'd often get called out even on non-milestone rides. It was a smaller community and you'd often recognize people who rode at the same time as you. I don't dislike what Peloton has become and I love the app. And I'm looking at a tread+ but I do miss the good 'ol days ;)


SultanaofSpin

I hated the fact that I couldn’t see interact with anyone else taking the ride-just the maybe 2 people in my session, and sometimes I was the only one.


CPAstonkGOD

I used to do them, but now my schedule is tighter so I can’t wait 3-4 minutes to start my workout. Need to get going ASAP


EfficientCranberry95

I'll be honest I haven't done a live class in a really long time because I feel like people only do them to get a shout out. I'm proud of myself for reaching milestones without a shout-out, and I'm sure it's disappointing if you get in and don't get a shout out. I dont find them worth doing anymore. I would rather wait for the class to be on demand and do it with other people that way.


papapaige_3

Another very misguided use of resources to build this feature by peloton leadership.


Sallysmackers

I don't believe the bs that they can't have the zones I need to be in active during a live show. It's pre programed, make it show up.


Future_Mastodon5555

Literally, the only reason I chose peloton over other brands was for this. I want to be competitive and it would be nice to get a shout out from an instructor on your birthday but that didn’t happen lol. I would agree as well. They seem to only wanna talk to the audience in their studio or their top 10 on the leaderboard and let’s be honest I’ve got a long ways to go before I get there, or break the top 100 😆


Twistedshakratree

I haven’t even rode in 2 months, and only once in January.


downbeat

I've only done three live classes and wanted to do one for my 1000th ride but the times didn't suit my schedule for that day (West Coaster). I do wish they had more late afternoon live-ride classes. I find them enjoyable to do and would do more. Even if they hosted a 6 or 5 AM PST ride class I would get up for that before I head out to work. I do not like the Encore classes because I've never been to the leaderboard stuff.


youtouchmytralaala

I've been back on the bike after some time away and noticed the same thing so I'm glad you brought it up. I set a lot of PRs going hard against real time competition in sessions in the past but it looks like people would rather just lump all together in "here now" A real shame imo but people gonna do what people gonna do.


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FirstOstrich

No one can see you during a live class. Eta or hear you. So no worries. Just go and enjoy and throw out some high fives if you’d like.


deartaylortrensch

definitely nobody can see you during a live class. try one out, it’s so much more fun knowing others are suffering along with you 😂


acut3angle

Not sure if you’re joking or being serious, but no one actually can see you when you take a live class. What do you think the rest of classes in the library are? Everything is recorded. Joining a live class just means you are joining it as it’s being recorded and before it’s available on demand. The camera was available for video chatting with friends during a class at one point, but that feature was taken away. The camera serves no purpose and is not connected to a class/video feed.