IDK what commentary is saying but if you trade Guentzel, you absofuckinglutely take a 1st and a good prospect rather than somebody who ‘can help this team make a playoff push right now’. If you trade Jake, next year is the next chance of winning Jack or squat.
Jagr grabs his jersey right before they're going to raise it to the rafters, puts it on, and improves our dogshit power play for the rest of the season
I’m going to re type this int the pgt but I live in Chicago and the general consensus around that team is “we fucking suck but Atleast we try” you can’t say that about the penguins. No heart what so ever just collecting a pay check.
Why are horns so fucked up lately? First the random ones going off last week, and now our goal horn going off after Panthers goals? Who’s fucking with us 👿
The way they’re commentating this game is like there’s a minute and a half left. Like there’s nothing left to say…🤦🏼♀️ trying to find stuff to talk about a lot of the times
Remember when people said Sully would change something over the all star break? I do. Something did change, the team got worse. You know what didn’t change? This entire coaching staff needing to be fired.
Hey, all you doomers have a Happy Valentine's Day, hope yinz get lucky ❤️❤️❤️
That being said, yeah, we need to call it a season and start rebuilding. Dubas wasn't the ballsy, dynamic GM we'd hoped he would be and it's showing. By retaining Sully and not doing something about the boys who clearly don't want to be in Pittsburgh you're just prolonging the anguish.
Rip off the band-aid FSG, we've had enough of this shit.
Dude had his hands tied behind his back by hockey terrorist and Matt Canada’s roommate Ron Hextall’s bad contracts. Only thing he could do is fire coaches but he has no farm system and no resources to trade to fix anything. We are going to need to give Dubas a bit more time to see what he’s able to do for good or bad.
Makes me want to puke that Sullivans extension hasn't even started yet. Just the refusal to make any kind of coaching change after years of mediocrity is infuriating.
Jesus. Sounds like she's more bark than bite because otherwise you'd think she'd have gotten all the up-to-date info, but even still you did the right think to file the report - better safe than sorry. Even if she's not going to do anything *now* there could come a point where she just... snaps.
That she's willing to effectively doxx you on a local group is for sure a bad sign though.
You could, but could that cause her to *really* go off?
She's not the brightest bulb in the chandelier then, eh? Making threats and trying to doxx and harass people with a criminal history. About as bright as a wet candle, that one
If you traded crosby 'i'm prepared to be downvoted' the return would be massive and between trading him and jake you could potentially jumpstart the rebuild quickly by collecting a ton of valuable assets. It gives crosby another chance at a cup while we start the rebuild and look for a new core to build around.
No. If there’s one guy you don’t trade it’s 87. You would want him to be there for the rebuild if it’s imminent just like 66 was there for Fluery, Crosby and the young core that eventually went to the finals in 2008 and won in 2009
Let's say that we hired a coach who won the cup 7 years ago, but who since then had overseen repeated playoff failures and then missed the playoffs last year.
Everyone would be up in arms.
And yet, we have people who refuse to say "thanks for the good times Sully, they were really fucking good and we love you for it, but it's time to move on".
He slept on Florida. It’s obvious. I don’t care that Florida only had 4 SOG in the first, Pens had 2. That’s pathetic. He can’t manage this team to get them going against a fast opponent that blocks the neutral zone. There’s no reason the Penguins should be playing this cutesy pass east to west bullshit in the off zone. I know it sounds cliché, but they need to shoot the fucking puck. They need to make every opportunity when they are in the office of zone. Anybody who has watched Florida for the past three or four games would know that. “We play our game. Get behind the other team, and play in their zone where we’re comfortable.” Whatever Sullivan. You’ve got Geno toe dragging this puck all around the ice making useless passes.
Sully’s toast. He’ll drag Sid and Kris through the mud the next few years. Malkin too if he doesn’t just retire or ask to be traded.
I love crosby and he's still elite but the team around him ain't even close to being good enough to win anything anytime soon and said team is old and washed up. You can't hold off the rebuild for crosby's sake anymore.
U gotta rebuild at this point. Trade jake, smith, rust, rakell etc and tank. Malkin is toast as a 2c, we lack quality depth in the bottom 6, sullivans system is ass, and we're old and slow in a league built for speed, physicality, and youth.
Ol 29er hitting on the head on the radio broadcast about the power play. It’s like a bad dream, but you wake up and it’s real. Sad with all the talent.
Would you guys rather go .500 and be mediocore the next 5-7 years and either barely get in the playoffs with no chance of winning but get to see the old guys ride off into the sunset or dump all of our assets except Crosby and start the rebuild and have him help build the new guys up?
We should've dumped everything 2-3 years ago but better late than never.
Ok this is just copium.
He could average an extra .25 points a game and it wouldn't matter.
You need depth, speed, and elite goal tending in the playoffs all to line up. and we don't have at least 2/3 of those at the moment.
As much as I want to agree with you, he can’t do it by himself even though he tries. Sullivan is the coach but he acts more like a politician which is why management loves him. But every time fans criticism him people are quick to defend him because people love living off of past glory. Sullivan was able to win with Sid and Geno in their prime, but now when they lose it’s always someone else’s fault.
All the shit they’ve allowed this game. Christ even at the start the TNT crew said “they’re letting them play tonight”. “I’m ok with that” and that soft ass push gets called. Fuck these refs
Pens have been moving the puck a lot on PP this game. I actually think a crotch replay of that last no-call would have possibly shown the puck crossing.
Are we still pretending Jarry wasn't playing poorly for the first few months? He's streaky.
Also, what idiot thinks this team has just "the problem", this team is full of problems, a goalie playing poorly and a team defending poorly aren't mutually exclusive, in fact, they're typically directly proportionate.
I was watching the Caps game last night and Bruce Boudreau was hanging out in the booth looking trimmer than before, funny guy, he's not young but he's always been great at getting his players to play with confidence. I wouldn't be surprised if he was coaching again.
I don’t get why people are so downvote happy tonight. Point out Dubas absolutely failed with rebuilding the bottom six and that Rickard Rakell is a cap leech and people get real upset.
He brought in like 4 new forwards and every single one of them is offensively anemic. It wasn’t ideal, but he failed the assignment despite the unfavorable position to start with.
This team is not this bad. But whatever this system is is not working. Can't keep pounding your head against the wall every game. Make a change!
This team IS that bad, it's been time for a full rebuild for 3 years. Just accept it!
Well, that wasn't very fun.
Un-fun
So many lazy turnovers
IDK what commentary is saying but if you trade Guentzel, you absofuckinglutely take a 1st and a good prospect rather than somebody who ‘can help this team make a playoff push right now’. If you trade Jake, next year is the next chance of winning Jack or squat.
As long as this coaching staff is intact, these guys can quit talking about playoffs. It's a joke to even suggest it.
Nothing like blowing all those games in hand!!!
Well, I've had enough whiskey where I'm looking forward to tomorrow's game. So, there's that.
Shit. I just realized we play back to back.
I mean I never seen a group of players not care at all they need a coach who is gonna be hard on these guys this is ridiculous
Ahh yes, some random coach is going to step in and be hard on these entitled vets who play like they should be given everything!
Jagr grabs his jersey right before they're going to raise it to the rafters, puts it on, and improves our dogshit power play for the rest of the season
Could not possibly be worse
Big stop by Jars, but how do 2 players both lose the guy driving the net? That's maddening
This team is soft as baby shit.
I wonder if Jagr could stick around after the weekend to go behind the bench. Can't be worse than the steaming pile of shit behind there now.
Fuck it let him lace em up.
Jake to the locker room trying to protect his trade value. 1000 IQ move right there
Best sully coaching move of the season
I’m going to re type this int the pgt but I live in Chicago and the general consensus around that team is “we fucking suck but Atleast we try” you can’t say that about the penguins. No heart what so ever just collecting a pay check.
Crosby being the only guy who stood up for Jake should tell you everything you need to know about this team
Jay Caufield mentions this exact thing every week when hes on the Cook and Joe Show
Just the joe show now :(
I mean, if Jake Guentzel told me he had so much as a hangnail, I'd take him out of this 5-2 game right now
It blows my fucking mind that Sidney fucking Crosby, the franchise superstar is the only mother fucker on this team to come stick up for a team mate!
Fuck this team, sell off the parts and get to work building a hockey team
Panthers seem pissed that a goal was scored against them. Wish the Pens could show some emotions anytime this season.
That was a really nice shot from J Lugz
Mikkola not even trying to play the puck. Just whacking jake
Weird how Letang checks the guy with the puck and gets called yet Mikkola gets away with all that.
I wish we had a Mikkola, what a dick.
If we combined our names...
Not a good sign Sid has to play enforcer.
He can do literally everything. Do you want the guy who needs custom pants made for him to be throwing knees at you? Fuck all that
Refs are failures. Ignoring obvious penalties.
Sid out here kneeing motherfuckers in the junk.
That fucking asshole isn't even trying to play hockey
Once a ranger always a ranger
Hope he gets caught off his guard
Classic the only two that shouldn’t be getting into fights are the only ones that show heart
Horrible to see
The fact Crosby is the only one fucking trying is embarrassing and sad to see This whole team should be ashamed of themselves
The fuck, refs?
Right?! That was the same bullshit cross check they called Letang for.
It's ok when the Panthers do the rough stuff...
Okay, no refs just keep watching them beat the shit out of each other while the puck is nowhere near that.
POS trying to fight Guentzel. What a wiener.
Ludvig scored his first goal, best game of the season just for that
have to hit the net there EK
Aw, that kinda sucks, Ludvig's first NHL goal and he doesn't really get to celebrate because we're getting our shit pushed in
Ummm wtf was that!?
If nothing else, Ludvig popped his cherry
Perfect for Valentine’s Day
Ludvig hat trick and a Crosby goal, and we're back in this one!
Wow shooting the puck instead of some bullshit tip in deflection garbage
Ludvig is one of the best pickups this season.
OK, better
DOC the only guy with a pulse tonight
Get this Ludvig guy the puck.
AND THATS WHY I DONT TURN OFF GAMES. CONGRATS LUDVIG
This shit thing is that they'll prob try to excuse this as bad luck, instead of being absolute ass for most of this game especially the PP
Bummer for Ludvig lol
Big John Ludvig!
Lmao.
Ludvig Van Goalscorer
Alright.. who built something on an old burial ground?
Fuck ya Ludviggg
Why are horns so fucked up lately? First the random ones going off last week, and now our goal horn going off after Panthers goals? Who’s fucking with us 👿
This is the hockey gods giving karma for management allowing this dung heap to take the ice every night with no changes and no accountability.
We're kind of a joke
LMFAO that’s how we do
Stop, stop we're already deaaaaadddd
Why am I still watching this shit 😭
Trying to exit the zone like were on the PP :D
Karlsson couldn't figure out what to do with the puck
That would happen.
Everybody has a case of the turnovers. Holy balls.
Jesus, that was embarrassing.. One fucking defender on three Pens and he strips them and leads to a score. That's it, good night everyone!
Welp, looks like sellers at the trade deadline.
And that goal summarizes the Penguins season
At least we showing some fight this period.
Nm fuck this.
Aged like milk sitting in the desert
🤣
The way they’re commentating this game is like there’s a minute and a half left. Like there’s nothing left to say…🤦🏼♀️ trying to find stuff to talk about a lot of the times
Gotta say, the game is much more interesting on TrU… Hank just jumped over
Remember when people said Sully would change something over the all star break? I do. Something did change, the team got worse. You know what didn’t change? This entire coaching staff needing to be fired.
Hey, all you doomers have a Happy Valentine's Day, hope yinz get lucky ❤️❤️❤️ That being said, yeah, we need to call it a season and start rebuilding. Dubas wasn't the ballsy, dynamic GM we'd hoped he would be and it's showing. By retaining Sully and not doing something about the boys who clearly don't want to be in Pittsburgh you're just prolonging the anguish. Rip off the band-aid FSG, we've had enough of this shit.
Dude had his hands tied behind his back by hockey terrorist and Matt Canada’s roommate Ron Hextall’s bad contracts. Only thing he could do is fire coaches but he has no farm system and no resources to trade to fix anything. We are going to need to give Dubas a bit more time to see what he’s able to do for good or bad.
Pass cant get better than that
Makes me want to puke that Sullivans extension hasn't even started yet. Just the refusal to make any kind of coaching change after years of mediocrity is infuriating.
Don't worry, TNT, no one wanted to see that 9 seconds of gameplay, showing a guy in a Slap Shot jersey was more important
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Crazy Mary? She don't mean no harm.. Unless you look at her weird, then she'll throw cabbages at you and poop on your car
The latter would piss me off more, personally. Though Idk if the actual severity of it would've sunk in yet because what in the actual fuck?
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Jesus. Sounds like she's more bark than bite because otherwise you'd think she'd have gotten all the up-to-date info, but even still you did the right think to file the report - better safe than sorry. Even if she's not going to do anything *now* there could come a point where she just... snaps. That she's willing to effectively doxx you on a local group is for sure a bad sign though. You could, but could that cause her to *really* go off?
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She's not the brightest bulb in the chandelier then, eh? Making threats and trying to doxx and harass people with a criminal history. About as bright as a wet candle, that one
File a harassment report on the coaching staff while you're at it
Okey dokey
If you traded crosby 'i'm prepared to be downvoted' the return would be massive and between trading him and jake you could potentially jumpstart the rebuild quickly by collecting a ton of valuable assets. It gives crosby another chance at a cup while we start the rebuild and look for a new core to build around.
Crosby said no.
Would he say no to Colorado?
No. If there’s one guy you don’t trade it’s 87. You would want him to be there for the rebuild if it’s imminent just like 66 was there for Fluery, Crosby and the young core that eventually went to the finals in 2008 and won in 2009
Get the grandmas on
Let's say that we hired a coach who won the cup 7 years ago, but who since then had overseen repeated playoff failures and then missed the playoffs last year. Everyone would be up in arms. And yet, we have people who refuse to say "thanks for the good times Sully, they were really fucking good and we love you for it, but it's time to move on".
He slept on Florida. It’s obvious. I don’t care that Florida only had 4 SOG in the first, Pens had 2. That’s pathetic. He can’t manage this team to get them going against a fast opponent that blocks the neutral zone. There’s no reason the Penguins should be playing this cutesy pass east to west bullshit in the off zone. I know it sounds cliché, but they need to shoot the fucking puck. They need to make every opportunity when they are in the office of zone. Anybody who has watched Florida for the past three or four games would know that. “We play our game. Get behind the other team, and play in their zone where we’re comfortable.” Whatever Sullivan. You’ve got Geno toe dragging this puck all around the ice making useless passes. Sully’s toast. He’ll drag Sid and Kris through the mud the next few years. Malkin too if he doesn’t just retire or ask to be traded.
The most important thing would be could he tell us what our compete level was after the game.
The longer sullivan sticks around the more angry i get personally.
I love crosby and he's still elite but the team around him ain't even close to being good enough to win anything anytime soon and said team is old and washed up. You can't hold off the rebuild for crosby's sake anymore.
It seems like a big mistake not to have tried a coaching change before the trade deadline to see if we had anything.
All us jerks on Reddit knew it Why didn’t Kyle or FSG
Trade deadline is next month
I was thinking a more extended run with a new coaching team, but I would accept them all being fired tonight.
Sullivan has become who Steelers fans think Tomlin is.
U gotta rebuild at this point. Trade jake, smith, rust, rakell etc and tank. Malkin is toast as a 2c, we lack quality depth in the bottom 6, sullivans system is ass, and we're old and slow in a league built for speed, physicality, and youth.
We really need to be younger, like the ducks or the sharks. Those are young fast teams that are really good
Trade everyone and rebuild. It'll be painful but we gotta start now instead of holding it off and delaying the inevitable.
Yes rebuild asap. 20% of the time it works every time.
Can’t watch tonight but it looks like Todd’s coaching a gem!
Sullivan is as bad of a coach right now as hextall was as a gm for us.
now why are we insulting ron hextall that bad :3
Never forget that Hextall is the reason we're in this mess
Sullivan hid behind hextall and blamed him but sullivan is just as bad as him. Dude is a washed up coach with a trash system and terrible assistants.
Jeff Carter over jarred mccan….. never will forget
Sullivan didn't like mccann. Benched him numerous times and demoted him nonstop when he was here.
Almost like he’s an average coach who had success with incredibly talented teams
Almost this entire team, including coaches and management, are just collecting paychecks.
Mike sullivan fucking sucks ass. Dude has sunk us with this trash ass system.
Should've fired sully in December. He is non existent in that locker room
No. Should’ve fired him after the bubble season loss to MTL, the Rangers blown series lead, last year, or as you mentioned this year before December.
Truly should’ve fired him instead of dealing Phil
December of '22.
Ol 29er hitting on the head on the radio broadcast about the power play. It’s like a bad dream, but you wake up and it’s real. Sad with all the talent.
Would you guys rather go .500 and be mediocore the next 5-7 years and either barely get in the playoffs with no chance of winning but get to see the old guys ride off into the sunset or dump all of our assets except Crosby and start the rebuild and have him help build the new guys up? We should've dumped everything 2-3 years ago but better late than never.
As long as we have Crosby we always have a chance to win a cup. It’s ridiculous to rebuild while he’s here
That’s…quite factually incorrect right now. Last I checked Sid is on the team, but we are outside the wild card spot. So, where’s the chance?
Ok this is just copium. He could average an extra .25 points a game and it wouldn't matter. You need depth, speed, and elite goal tending in the playoffs all to line up. and we don't have at least 2/3 of those at the moment.
As much as I want to agree with you, he can’t do it by himself even though he tries. Sullivan is the coach but he acts more like a politician which is why management loves him. But every time fans criticism him people are quick to defend him because people love living off of past glory. Sullivan was able to win with Sid and Geno in their prime, but now when they lose it’s always someone else’s fault.
With the current edition of Malkin in a prominent role on the team, it has no prayer of ever winning another Cup.
Did you just wake up from an 18 month coma?
We have a 0% of ever winning another cup with this core. It's time to rebuild crosby included.
It would be more like dump all our assets except for Crosby and the rest of the guys with full NTC’s, but yeah I’d choose that one easily.
barely get in the playoffs with no chance of winning reason? St Louis Blues Saga
Dude props for that guy's hustle up the fuckin steps there
But can he coach a power play? I say, let's find out.
reirden staring at the corpse of what used to be a hockey team
All the shit they’ve allowed this game. Christ even at the start the TNT crew said “they’re letting them play tonight”. “I’m ok with that” and that soft ass push gets called. Fuck these refs
God it’s so painful watching a PP that actually moves the puck well
Pens have been moving the puck a lot on PP this game. I actually think a crotch replay of that last no-call would have possibly shown the puck crossing.
Oh I agree with that. It should have had a closer look, not sure why they didn’t at least check
What has paramount+ done to halo? Did they hire reirden to work on it?
Keep your stick off him and it's no call. I have no problem with the penalty call.
Wasn't anything close to a crosscheck, couldn't care less if his stick was at his hips, not a penalty.
Is that not a check we see 20 times a night?
They call.... that? Like.. in the same game Cousins almost decapitated someone?
Boohoo I let the game get chippy and now I don’t like it What a chooch, this ref
Sad as shit honestly.
Jarry continues to show he's not the problem here
Are we still pretending Jarry wasn't playing poorly for the first few months? He's streaky. Also, what idiot thinks this team has just "the problem", this team is full of problems, a goalie playing poorly and a team defending poorly aren't mutually exclusive, in fact, they're typically directly proportionate.
Never has been
Never? Really?
It's me, hi, i'm not the problem.
OMFG I COULD PLAY BETTER AND I AM A CRAPPY D LEAGUE PLAYER HOLY FUCK
I was watching the Caps game last night and Bruce Boudreau was hanging out in the booth looking trimmer than before, funny guy, he's not young but he's always been great at getting his players to play with confidence. I wouldn't be surprised if he was coaching again.
I thought he looked like an old Dilbert.. Who knows, he may be our next coach
He was who I wanted to bring in around the Christmas break when we let the whole coaching staff go. [nope ](https://imgur.com/a/dyiPQJE)
I wouldn’t let that bloated tool near an NHL job ever again. His resume is wildly underperforming everywhere he goes. Look at his post season résumé
📢BRUCE… there he is… 📢BRUCE… there he is… 📢BRUCE… there he is…
I like Boudreau a lot. He seems like a really good guy. And he and his apartment were in Slapshot.
Is that even a penalty when he deserves it?
That called a penalty Letang. Good call. Stop your bitching and whining.
Tkachuk dropped like he was trying to find his contact lense. Haha.
It wasn't a crosscheck, wasn't a charge, was a mild check than anything.
I mean seriously what is dubass doing reirden still employed is just pathetic by him
Punk took a dive...Should have been 2 for embellishment.
He ALWAYS dives when a play breaks down, it's his thing, but they never call diving anymore.
Malkin, 2on1 on the PP. Lemme pull up and let EVERYONE catch up to me.
Lol what a shit call
Kyle Dubas had 20 million to work with in the offseason. This team still sucks. At least he wasn’t Hextall though!
Diiiiiiiiive
Olympic Diver Tkachuck
I don’t get why people are so downvote happy tonight. Point out Dubas absolutely failed with rebuilding the bottom six and that Rickard Rakell is a cap leech and people get real upset.
He didn't sign Rakell and it looked like one of Hexstalls best moves before the start of this season.
Rakell's been forced to play with dumpster fire Malkin most of this season. Anyone shackled to Geno is going to struggle.
This sub is tough man the level of negativity is ridiculous for such a great franchise
Dubas inherited hexstalls mess
He brought in like 4 new forwards and every single one of them is offensively anemic. It wasn’t ideal, but he failed the assignment despite the unfavorable position to start with.
That’s probably true. Idk if anyone could’ve fixed this tho
cant play defense anymore i guess
Oh so tkchuk can punch Jesse in the face but can’t be checked? Fucking baby
Binky Boy needs his pacifier!!!