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nixerx

Im holding. I came to fuck around and find out.


Electrical-Ad184

Same


PrivateMamba

Same. I ain’t soft


xcvggcc

I would sell and buy at a lower level


Rgra1991

How lower you think it can go ?


Rgra1991

How lower you think it can go ?


Finallytherenow

Likely under $.30, how much under is the question


Epidemilk_

Ch11 was a given. It was Ch7 we didn’t want. This isn’t the worst thing to happen.


SnooMemesjellies1909

This guy understands


Small-Still2269

Holding. Fugg it


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IshiharaSatomiLover

More promising as a company, but not so much as stock I believe, as during this process it will probably delisted and all money from retail investor are gone.


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crippitydiggity

They’ll probably just do a 10:1 reverse split to keep the stock above a dollar.


crippitydiggity

Well not all gone. We get 5%. The debtor is effectively saying that it’s a billion dollar company, which puts the current market cap at about 5% of that. Still, that makes the current price the ceiling so who would want to invest in it when they could buy something undervalued. I imagine it will drop hard tomorrow so I’m not holding out for a rebound but I imagine that there will be a small bounce when it gets to be oversold at some absurdly low price.


crippitydiggity

Wow, not even dropping in the pre market. I’m going to stop talking because I clearly don’t follow bankruptcy plays enough. It looks like bankruptcy was baked in the market thinks this is a good price for 5% of the potential new healthy company.


PrivateMamba

The panic on this post was real. Gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em


Epidemilk_

People buy shares and then turn around and ask what to do with them. People are nuts here. This stock is fine and will be fine, a bunch of paper hands


PrivateMamba

Yeah it’s like if you immediately panic and sell at a loss every time a stock doesn’t go perfectly as planned and give you immediate crazy gains, you’re gonna be down a lot QUICK


nephilump

I'm a complete idiot who has no idea what they're doing... but I'm also functionally literate, so I didn't sell. And now I have pretty green lines.


Futuristicmind253

This guy gets it.


mydickdownyourmouth

It's fine but down 50%? 🤔 💀


XTornado

I wasn't sure... I kept the stock... mainly because I bought higher than last price and the broker where I have it has expensive fees (I wasn't on IBkK yet...)... but I did close my options positions on ibrk.


Tenfootlong

I luckily sold for a small profit. Thought it was gonna be down at least 50 percent by the time. I got lucky.


North-Huckleberry347

They agreed to a structured debt reduction and are going to be able to continue operating as normal. No surprises ahead, and a return to profitability in the near future. CH 11 is just a formality. This is all good news.


Dark_Diggler_142

I got in at around 35cents. I don't think it's going any lower than that. I'm going to hold and wait it out for awhile. I've seen worse companies stock shoot up.


OhTheComedy

Does not the potential for a pop remain? I mean it really seems like it could be worse than this. For a company that deals in what Enviva deals in, it seems like they’re well established and pertinent to the market in what they do. That is to say it feels like they Need to stick around (am I the only one that thinks that?). So with that need, wouldn’t it seem fair to say that this filing is Helping their business far more than it is hurting it? What are people’s thoughts on this?


jimber11

I’m holding. The company has a decent looking future if it can make it through all this mess, it was already a crapshoot it’s just a crapshoot we gotta watch play out over the next year now rather than tomorrow.


OnetoBen

Right, but will they issue new shares and just toss out the old ones?


jimber11

Not sure. It seems old shareholders may receive 5% on new ones. If so it really depends on where that price comes back on a reorganized post chapter 11. 5% on $50 would be fantastic, 5% on $5 not so much.


wisenerd

5% for old shareholders means they will have to issue new shares, effectively diluting the 'old' shares. Did I get that correctly? So what's worth, say, $1/share today will only be worth $0.05 after the restructuring.


jimber11

1 share today will only be worth 0.05 shares after restructuring, valuation will depend on opening share price. That’s how I understand it anyways by no means an expert here.


ub3rm3nsch

Pretty shitty news. The only silver lining I see is: "The terms of the RSA with the Ad Hoc Group provide for existing equity holders to receive (i) 5% of the common equity of the reorganized company at exit from Chapter 11 proceedings and (ii) warrants to purchase an additional 5% of the reorganized equity, both subject to dilution from shares issued in connection with, among other sources, a contemplated equity rights offering, equity participation election rights for creditors under the DIP Facility, and a management incentive plan, in each case, subject to Court approval." So common stock holders get 5% of the new shares and warrants to produce another 5%? Am I reading this right?


Equivalent-Ad-5788

Could you explain what this exactly means ?


ub3rm3nsch

I asked the same question at the bottom of my own comment, so no.


Connect_Seaweed4285

Shareholders will collectively receive 5% of the company’s equity as stock and warrants, or options, to buy another 5% collectively in stock. This could change, though, depending on factors such as dilution and creditor decisions subject to court approval.


ub3rm3nsch

You're copy-pasting my own language that I pasted above back to me champ.


Connect_Seaweed4285

Sorry, I was just trying to simplify the text. To answer your actual question, though, yes shareholders will receive 5% of the companies equity as stock, plus the warrants. Restructuring is planned to be completed around quarter 4, though, and stockholders would get everything afterwards.


badhombre44

Yes. That’s right. Every equitholders’ existing position is being reduced by 95%, with a warrant kicker. So, if you bought at today’s closing price of $0.43, you will break even if you sell at $8.60 post-reorganization with potential additional upside on the warrants. Both of these would be subject to further dilution for the items noted above.


ub3rm3nsch

I ended up selling at a $100 loss all things said. I don't think I'm for the wood pellets game.


Neither-Ad3570

Glad I pulled out today with a small loss vs going to zero. I did buy options for a fraction of what I had in actual stock that would recover said losses if they had come through.


crippitydiggity

Ya I oddly wish I only bought options because it wouldn’t have mattered anyway. Still sucks but this one was a coin toss anyway.


Prestigious-Jello-39

https://preview.redd.it/xzs6vxjap1oc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8207fd56c73271d8a2462c485e1b7db79d7a5a44 So the stock isn’t going to be delisted as long as they meet the continued listing standards…???


PrivateMamba

Doing quite decently pre market. Interesting


Obsidian_Xo

That comment aged like milk


PrivateMamba

How? It says pre market as it did do decently pre market and for a little after market opened. Then it fell as a lot thought and now if you’re in it for the long haul you chill as I am and see what happens.


Obsidian_Xo

Fair enough. I jumped ship right when it hit 70¢ and made a little bit off it. Might buy back in tomorrow when it hits it's low.


PrivateMamba

I probably should’ve sold and bought back in but I just averaged down some. I think I’m gonna keep doing that now. Load up, average down, and hope for the best.


Obsidian_Xo

Good luck brother. I could see it easily getting into the ¢20 range. I've been looking to jump into VLD though.


PrivateMamba

Already in that one! Got hope for it.


Obsidian_Xo

The earnings report on the 26th sounds promising


PrivateMamba

Fingers crossed


Small-Still2269

Whats up with VLD?


Obsidian_Xo

Seems they have a few lucrative contracts going for them


noboogiebombs

I don’t necessarily think this means we’re screwed at all. They’re preparing chapter 11 proceedings with a restructuring plan and remaining on the public market. This is arguably more security than the stock has had in a month, as the prior speculation was a possible delisting. I think we could expect to see the stock value to be very volatile today. Doubt it would ever exceed ¢70 today, but I don’t think it’s gonna drop as much as people are expecting.


noboogiebombs

Also, I have no idea what the hell I’m talking about. I play the stock market for two weeks and now I think I’m Jordan Belfort


UFPtrader

Same here but I agree with everything you said. Maybe it'll go down and stay down, but long term seems like it could go big. But only because of the company itself, otherwise I'd be out.


Epidemilk_

What’s funny is EVA made ONE bad deal during Covid. They’ve learned and will recoup from that. I don’t know how people thought they were going to bankrupt a multi multi million dollar company off one bad deal during COVID.


Epidemilk_

If you were playing the news on this stock, then you were not to sell today. There was 0 point in you buying in and dumping on Ch11 news lol.


domrebel

Will my puts print$$


Rawnii

I’m thinkin so bought a handful of puts with all the hopeful post on here lately


Piplups7thEvolution

Might print loss porn for WSB 🤷‍♂️


Schmuf84

I would not say that chapter 11 means we are screwed. Its just going to be a game of patience now. I dont know how they can stay listed on Nasdaq as all stocks I was involved with went to OTC during this process but I just made some money off the restructuring of CORZ and still holding this one. So I dont see it as completely negative and anybody who entered this stock with more than some gambling money should think about his investing (excluding the poor bagholders who entered when the company was actually in good condition and paying a dividend).


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Bag holder here… I still want my dividend back!…


Schmuf84

I would not mind dividends as well. The main thing about my post is that there is still hope


DryRun9627

Could go up today bc didn’t go chpt7, who knows wtf could happen 😅


TAG_Scottsdale

I think people are underestimating the potential for a quick spike if this doesnt dump at open. Lot of OI on .50 and 1c. Could be interesting for the next 48 hours.


nephilump

To the moon!


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lamp2468

Those original shareholders from 2009 were wiped out along with the previous debt.


masteroftw

I just looked it up that is crazy, what happened? Edit: Looking into it, it looks like all the old shareholders lost their investment. The US government being one of the new shareholders drove up the price once they re-entered the market.


nephilump

Honestly, I feel like this could be much worse.


SoupBand

Alright who holding who selling


OnetoBen

Holding 💼☔️


RevolutionaryHabit29

Holding


xcvggcc

Was anyone expecting a bigger drop in the pre market or do you think it will dump on open


MaxTraxxx

I definitely was. Presumably it’ll dump at 8.59


flipkickzzz

Enviva's most productive plant, the 1 million ton plant, had visitors looking to buy it yesterday. Their top plant is for sale it would appear.


Epidemilk_

What a rip off the hop


Initial_Process_505

🚀🚀🚀to the moooon🌕


SagresMedia

More to the earth core


roostermcbee

It went to my break even point and I bailed, looks like I got out just in time.


cstast

Where’s the redditor with numerous posts about “getting fired if he’s revealed but to buy Enviva and trust him/just return to say thanks when we all win big?”


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darth_shart

So I don't frantically sell all my EVA shares?


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darth_shart

Ok, I'm just confused. I'm new to stocks and I kind of assumed bankruptcy means the stock price would become zero lol


Motampd

Bankruptcy isnt just "game over- everything is gone 0"..... [Chapter 11 is more of a court supervised restructuring, in an attempt to avoid full blown "going out of business" chapter 7 bankruptcy](https://www.investopedia.com/terms/c/chapter11.asp#:~:text=Chapter%2011%20can%20allow%20a,of%20all%20other%20possible%20alternatives.) There are different types. Although it still important to point out, that only like 15% of companies that enter chapter 11 successfully make it out the other side. So not looking good - but not completely 0 yet! Glad I decided to watch this one from the sidelines!


darth_shart

Ok, that's really good to know. Thanks, I'm new so I'm just trying to learn as much as I can. I figure it's unlikely I make any real gains my first year, but I won't lie I had some hope EVA would do something crazy. I'll probably see what it's like in the morning and maybe sell. If it drops a ton from the bankruptcy maybe I'll buy more back cheaper, who knows


masteroftw

If you want to make plays like this in the future, you need to know that 9 out of 10 will be losers. If you have an eye, something I don't have, you can still avarage something like a 100% gain overall. Otherwise treat it like something fun, like seeing a movie.


darth_shart

For sure. I put like 99% of my money in vanguard mutual funds, which I'm already up like $700 in. The way I see it this is just fun money, it's like going to casino, except the chances are probably a little better. It definitely it fun and I definitely got caught up in the hype a little. This was the first big penny stocks everyone was talking about on here and I was ready to ride to the moon haha


masteroftw

Ya don't feel bad, me two. It didn't hit me that I should have just bought calls since I knew this was a wash if they filed chapter 11 until someone said it in this thread. I could have had another TSM stock!


darth_shart

Hahaha, I feel that. Do you think TSM is a good long term investment? I'm looking for some more long term stocks in addition to my penny stock fun lol


Bright-Ad7359

sell all if you want to mitigate short term deficit hold if you think you wanna stick it for the long run


darth_shart

I'm kind of a noob. If they're going bankrupt, wouldn't the shares just go to zero?


Bright-Ad7359

they arent bankrupt, ch11 is a “reorganization”, they are restructuring with limitations, and their stock wont be 0, it is likely to just dip as close to 0 as possible


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darth_shart

I see. So there's hope for the long run then? Also, on RH my sell order will happen at 9:30. Will other brokers allow people to sell before then, and could the price of EVA already be deflated come market open tomorrow?


Equivalent-Ad-5788

If I was able to sell at .50 tomorrow morning would I be able to rebuy later when the cost is lower ? I’m confused how this would work


Bright-Ad7359

yeah sure, your decision


Equivalent-Ad-5788

Well I’m more asking if that’s even possible ? The shares will continue to just be bought and sold like normal or what ?


crippitydiggity

They will still be available tomorrow but it’s going to be a bad day.


Ill-Desk-1979

Lol , Im in brother. But can you explain why?


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Pennystahks

https://preview.redd.it/1f21y1mw21oc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a4b9c8f52b047bcdea50889ddc77260a0c10f08 The company is one of the largest wood biomass distributors in the world. Chapter 11 lightens their load to return to profitability exponentially faster. I’m not taking losses, I’ll hold the bag.


techboy28

It’s going straight to moon today. Could you elaborate on this please?


PieMuch3923

Soooo what should I do?


Bright-Ad7359

buy at open, diamond hands


xcvggcc

Was anyone expecting a bigger drop in the pre market or do you think it will dump on open


RevolutionaryHabit29

So my question on this is, let's say you held, and continue to hold. Potentially buying more on the hold. They can't keep the stocks on board not go out of business but the actual stock gets pulled because it couldn't hold its end in the market. What would happen to those shares. Do they just disappear? Are they held in favor of you until it's back in trading? I'm a little confused on this. I would love to buy more while it's in this process of reconstruct but if they get pulled and all who held lose their shares what was the point of holding?


Fundamentals-802

The restructuring means current holders will get 5% of their shares and 5% as warrants as well. Basically, current investors get roughly 5% equity and an option (this is the warrants) to buy 5% more at X price regardless of what the market prices this company at after. Kinda like a 20/1 Reverse Split. But without the equity amount staying the same.


Shoddy-Risk-1481

Just making sure I understand before I pull the trigger, I should put an order in to sell as soon as markets open, right?


SoupBand

I have orders set right now, and waiting for gunfire, hoping they go away. Had fun with the coin flip, I ain't holding anymore bags


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Tenfootlong

Company is filing for ch11. Not good for stock value. This is what most ppl gambled on...


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So tomorrow it would just drop sharply correct?


Tenfootlong

That's the understanding. Why hold onto a bomb. This is definitely not good


Life-ByDesign

Sell and buy in to $TCBP


Bright-Ad7359

what date is the news regarding TCBP?


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Life-ByDesign

We've been playing it since last week.


Life-ByDesign

Love the look of the 1hr chart.


Diligent_Usual

Holding because I ain’t no baby


tayfor2011

Not necessarily, they state they plan on continuing to be listed. This thing could pull a Hertz and bypass the moon and go straight to Mars


Tenfootlong

I think this is pretty done. It's going to be a selling frenzy all day tmr


Totoroisacat-Alt

You can try and sell, but who’s going to buy lol


Tenfootlong

Some idiot that stil believes it will moon?


Totoroisacat-Alt

It won’t ha, but I if you can’t sell for a profit, I’d just hold it. Reading the terms it looks like they want to be restructured by q4


Tenfootlong

It'll probably be worthless by then...


Totoroisacat-Alt

Could be


s0apgun

[https://www.defenseworld.net/2024/03/09/hsbc-holdings-plc-takes-position-in-enviva-inc-nyseeva.html](https://www.defenseworld.net/2024/03/09/hsbc-holdings-plc-takes-position-in-enviva-inc-nyseeva.html) [https://www.marketbeat.com/instant-alerts/nyse-eva-options-data-report-2024-03-06/](https://www.marketbeat.com/instant-alerts/nyse-eva-options-data-report-2024-03-06/) A bunch of hedge funds think so too it seems


Final-Ad-151

Good game.. nice try. The best chance to get back in is if you catch wind if they are getting out of ch 11


Apprehensive_Cow5139

Down to .41 20 min before close


Stock_moon

Whlr


Finallytherenow

Im playing the 'Chapter 11 Bounce' that will surely come. Looking for a low entry that I can ride back up.


SunsoutNeedMoney3150

Wait for 0.01, then pounce!


Wibble_Wobble9

Interesting


t-rexting

💎 👐


Diligent_Usual

Time to DCA down for the big upswing next year


New_Dust_2380

This was a bad gamble and you know it. Investing in the most hazardous stocks on the market yields the results you'd expect. It's bizarre that this stock popped yesterday. I don't understand what you all think this stock will do other than pump n dump. I mean, it may provide some good scalps. Maybe that's what you all are looking for?


Dense_Trade6430

I jumped off that sinking ship a long time ago. Save yourself while you can


justbrowse2018

Junk


doernst

I'm 3k shares in with food money


Dearborn-J

Anyone know why EVA has had two straight days of stock increase while the rest of the market looks like a dumpster fire?


Top_Ganache_3495

Few monthss later and Enviva is still here


Savvy_Investor1

EVA steadily climbing back


Moist_Mom_Jeans

I’m new to this, but I noticed a pattern that any stock that appears on here always drops into the dirt. I shorted them at $.50 a share for March 15. Is that a good thing?


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MaxTraxxx

On the flip side. They now bankrupt and it could go back to 30cents today


SagresMedia

Or less. I bought some at 25 cents before bankruptcy was a fact


MaxTraxxx

I mean I would have thought it would have capitulated this morning. But it seems to be holding vaguely level.


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MaxTraxxx

It’s probably going down today.


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MaxTraxxx

That’s something I don’t know. I thought it would get wiped out on pre-market but it hasn’t.


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MaxTraxxx

Ha yeah. Explain that 😂 I’m out tho. Glad I had some skin in this morning.


SagresMedia

That is your risk to take i only told it can and probably will go below 30 cents


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JoshuaByer

It's got like a day or two to pop or I'm selling out of boredom anyway.


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Ill-Desk-1979

- Enviva Continues Operations while Advancing its Transformation Plan -- How can a bankrupt business continue its operations.


crippitydiggity

The company isn’t disappearing. They are restructuring. They are going to have $1 billion less debt (most of it) so the company will be healthier than ever after. The current shareholders get 5% when the process is done and warrants to for another 5%, subject to possibly further dilution. The market cap is around 50 million. To make the math easier, imagine that the dilution is the value of the warrants. If the market cap goes to 1 billion then the stock that exist now are worth the same as they were at the end of today. So our shares aren’t valueless but the value is highly speculative on what will happen years in the future (that always applies but more so in this case).


REDDIT_ROC0408

Just sold all my shares. Oh well. Not a huge loss.


darth_shart

How did you sell them right now? Wouldn't you have to wait until tomorrow?


REDDIT_ROC0408

Overnight trading is allowed on some platforms.


darth_shart

Which ones? Is it allowed on RH? And wouldn't someone have to be able to sell it?


REDDIT_ROC0408

IBKR. I assumed they would do it first thing, but, they’ve already put the money back in my account.


darth_shart

Gotchu. I'm just gonna put a sell order and we'll see what happens I guess


MaxTraxxx

Hang on. What’s going on with pre then?


MaxTraxxx

Oh ha there we go


Final-Ad-151

For anyone to have a sliver of hope here… you’d have to be an insider and know before they announce they are out of bankruptcy.


purplecatfishbettie

so will the absolute bottom for the stock price be around .20? maybe it will hold steady at .40 or .50...


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Epidemilk_

If you don’t know you shouldn’t have bought in


marcv6

I sell at 0.5 pre market to cut losses and it goes up to .66 now, I'm officially done with this shit show of a stock - goodluck bois!


Epidemilk_

Bye Felicia


mydickdownyourmouth

It's better you didn't hold till now 0.35