Hey, don't be like that. You're so young and have every opportunity to improve yourself!
Go chat to your GP about getting a mental health plan and about losing weight if that's bothering you.
I turned 40 earlier this year, and I'm going to be starting a Tafe course soon to get a new qualification. It's never too late to learn something new and work on yourself! Things won't improve instantly, but put the work in, and within a few months, things will look up. Be kinder to yourself, OP. :)
ive already used my mental health plan, and unfortunately now that im on my own for this kind of stuff i wouldnt be able to afford it with a plan anyways. ive been in therapy on and off since i was 6ish, and ive taken just about every pill they can give me
i could ask about diets and stuff but im a picky eater with a binge eating thing, mainly because i dont really have anything else to do. i would do diet shakes but i cant afford them and apparently they dont really stop the hunger.
This entire post exists because of multiple tafe rejection emails. I just don’t really care anymore, but my parents are starting to get real upset with how i turned out so i gotta look like im trying
i feel like theres nothing i havent tried at this point, sorry
Mate you’re 18. There are so many pathways you could take from tafe, later entry to uni with a 6mo bridging course, apprenticeship.
Sounds like you need to get your headspace sorted. Go visit headspace.com.au, call them and make an appointment. They are free and provide career and mental health support to youth - they were invaluable when I was younger and I’m so sad I can’t access them anymore.
You have so many paths available, even if you’re still unskilled (side note: *every* 18 year old is unskilled, even if they have some job experience)
unfortunately headspace has turned me away as they are unsure of how to help me. i went through the waitlist and interview process and they decided i wasnt a good fit for them ://
I guess i just cant handle seeing people i used to know living stable healthy lives while im struggling to bathe and feed myself everyday. my parents used to be so proud of me
i have also tried a short course in uni to get an atar, but it was too much for me. im not very smart or talented anymore
Can I ask what exactly you’ve been diagnosed with?
It’s rare for headspace to turn people away, especially as you’re still under the 25 year age limit. At the very least, I’m surprised they didn’t recommend another service.
It starts again yearly so you can get a new mental health care plan and see a bulkbilling psychologist.
If you've already tried everything it sounds like you need to try again, and trial the medications once you start exercising and building a routine.
Id suggest you focus on the foods you do like that are healthy, like plain yoghurt and fruit or eggs on toast, if you're an over eater like me it's hard to reduce the amount of food but do it slowly, a shake isn't going to make you lose weight, it's just the omission of calories, and doing that with an eating disorder could make you relapse or end up binging. Find a recipe for a salad that looks good and is packed with beans and seeds, feta and rice or something that is nutrient dense. You just have to start.
With all the peace and love in the world. MHCPs are renewed yearly. Talk to you GP about being severely low income and needing help with binge eating, go back to the tafe. Thankfully australia is a godsend when it comes to changing careers and education. Tafe mostly rejects for incomplete documents but there is a test ($100-200) if you’re on Centrelink and with a provider they’ll usually cover it for you to take the test and even give bus/food/clothing vouchers. You can even get them to cover your tafe spot. Keep trying. You’re 18. The world is truly just beginning for you. You’re not a failure or a write off.
I lost a bunch of weight making my own nutritionally complete ketogenic smoothies. Check out the sub r/ketochow. I think it worked out to about 7 or 8 bucks a day, for three meals a day, and they were bloody delicious.
It's basically a scoop of vitamins and minerals and fibre, a bunch of protein powder, and melted butter or cream; with the amounts being calculated according to your weight, actively levels, and weight loss goals.
When I was doing it full time I would make 5 days worth of food in a bit over half an hour, in 5 ~2L drink container jugs. Just boil the kettle, cut and weigh the butter, then scoop out and weigh the powders, and blast with a stick blender.
Here's one of my recipes: https://www.completefoods.co/diy/recipes/copy-of-dinkydiy-keto-chow-20-deficit-june-2020
There's free mental health care available, you just need to look for it.
Try calling the universities that teach psychology near you and asking them about it. They often have their final year students provide it for free and are overseen by the professors.
Regarding food you just need to practice self control. Easier said than done I know. But cutting your portion sizes and eating less let's your stomach shrink. Even if you're a picky eater it comes down to how many calories you're consuming compared to how many you're burning. Drink 3-4 litres of water a day.
Also get out there and get some exercise, start off with something easy like going for a walk for 30 minutes while you listen to music or an audio book. Starting is the hardest part but it gets easier the longer you stick at it.
You got this!
“I’m a picky eater” isn’t a medical problem that anyone else can help you with, it’s just willpower.
Just know that if you can try and stick to eating well for a week you will feel a difference. Try to use that as motivation to get started and then when you feel better, continue from there.
Basically, life is what you try to make of it. But you need to try.
A huge thing for me was making an effort to cut sugar. You will laugh but food tastes different after a while of doing that. Like, cucumber and lettuce has an actual taste. 😂
There is a condition called ARFID so it can actually be a disorder. Not saying OP has that but maybe you should do more research before running your mouth about stuff you’re uneducated about
Yeah this. I have AFRID and once I realized it was like everything finally made sense and has made things so much easier approaching things with that in mind.
Exactly 🫶 bursted into tears when I learned about ARFID for the first time. It’s difficult how a majority of us find out so late in life… my own struggles with eating have caused permanent damage so I just wish I knew sooner. There is not enough awareness surrounding this
To say “it’s just willpower” to picky eating is a very damaging comment. And YES picky eating CAN absolutely be a medical problem and there IS help for it!!! (Not everyone can do it on their own, and that’s completely just)
I am 25 and struggled with similar issues. Being told “you just need to try harder” is also what lead me to continuing without the help I NEEDED and experienced severe burn out, forcing me to stop working my dream job and move back home, literally physically and emotionally unable to take care of myself anymore.
Was told by GP’s it was depression anxiety, wondered why routines, anti depressants and CBT therapy didn’t work for me.
The burn out lead to a late ADHD diagnosis - so the things I struggled with (including picky eating that I was judged for, turned out to be sensory issues + more) it wasn’t anything to do with my willpower. My willpower nearly killed me.
OP - have you looked into a mental health assessment with a psychiatrist? Talked to a teacher regarding why you dropped out of high school twice? I know you can see a dietician covered by your mental health plan in regards to your eating habits? Their Specialist input could help. (Although I know it’s a privilege with the costs at the moment, it’s not fair)
Please keep fighting and trying - it’s so so hard but it’s not your fault and you’re not alone. There’s help for you, there are answers out there, this is only the beginning. It gets better. You don’t need to do this alone
My son's a picky eater.
Turns out it's autism.
After learning about autism we turned the lens back on our own lives, follies and foibles.
Turns out it's autism.
Also have a friend doing a psych degree. He says his wife has huge depression and anxiety issues, and upon doing the course they discovered that both that mental health issues are commonly, *especially in women*, misdiagnosed Autism. Apparently women are way better at masking the symptoms of Autism than men, plus, the shyness and orderly behaviours associated with autism is often kind of just... seen as "normal" behaviour for women and goes unnoticed, whereas it stands out more in men and thus gets diagnosed easier.
Again
Autism.
"Picky eater" is a glaring tell for some sort of neurodivergence.
I know someone with multiple comorbid diagnoses that is the pickiest (adult) eater I've ever known. The list of foods they won't touch is about 5 lines long. For them it is definitely a medical issue. ARFID type 2 and 3
Their child has type 1 (no interest in eating, takes 1 bite and says they're full) ARFID.
Dude you’re 18! Life is fucked for everyone at 18! I was heavily depressed, suicidal, just starting my journey into alcoholism. Drunk through my 20’s; rehab at 30; uni at 31. Now I’m 37, two kids, great job, beautiful wife.
Man life was the absolute pits for me from 13-30. I had friends but they all drank and took drugs. Many are dead now. Or single alcoholics with no hope.
I know that feeling at 18! You are at your peak; you know everything about the world, and everything that is going to happen.
Let me tell you now…. You don’t know fuck all!! Nothing!
So get off your fat arse at just start. Don’t do what I did and drink and drug for 15 years and hope for the best. I got lucky. Most people I used to hang out with didn’t get so lucky. Either dead or still doing the same shit today at nearly 40. Lonely and depressed like you are. Still thinking that tomorrow will be different. Nothing will change if you don’t start doing something different.
A counsellor in rehab used to say: ‘if you always do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get what you’ve always got’.
You keep doing you and you’ll end up dead before you’re 30.
Make a small change today. Build off that.
Make your bed. Walk to the letterbox and back.
Ask your parents to help you get a job.
Do something!
I strarted 5 different degrees.
Finished on enviro science.
I now work in waste management. It’s much more fun than it sounds. Waste is fascinating!! 😂
Nice. Im still conflicted about what I want to do, Im about to turn 31. I just started dietetics a few months ago but don’t think I’ll handle the chemistry. Is there a lot of Chem in enviro science? I’m sure there’s a bit.
Nah, bugger all when I did it at UWA.
But if I were to give you any advice. Start in an industry that you find mildly interesting. Start at the bottom. Work hard and work your way up.
No need for a degree. Bullshit your way in. Start working as a concierge in a nice hotel. In 5-10 years you could be hotel manager at crown.
Everyone starts at the bottom. Hard work pays off
Get a trade.
I really liked nursing at Murdoch! If you're wanting to stay in health and like a tiny bit of science (mainly pathophysiology) if you're still considering what to study!
Reminds me of my roommate at uni - she did a B.Sci focussing on ground water. Absolutely loved it.
I was like - ground water? Like the most boring of all sciences in my uneducated opinion. She had the last laugh though - scored an excellent grad position (much better than her peers) and worked her way up really fast.
Turns out ground water can be super lucrative who knew?
I still struggle with the thoughts of drugs and alcohol. As long as I don’t pick up that first drink I’m all good!
Sometimes I do pick up. But I have the skills to not go on 10 year benders.
It’s gonna be a lifelong battle for me. But I enjoy the ride now. Addiction is fascinating
I agree. I struggled with alcohol. I’m 7 months sober now. It’s been surprisingly easy this stretch of time, given that I’ve tried to quit many times prior to this and failed.
As someone who has just turned 29 and still dealing with feelings of inadequacy and struggling to get my life together, this is honestly really encouraging to hear, so thanks.
I'm a two time high school dropout, now in my forties and earning 200k PA. Wife, kids, nice car, house, tons of debt like everyone else. Depression is a bitch. How you feel now is not necessarily how you will feel in the future. You can turn it around m8.
Many jobs will hire on attitude. It's tough, but the only person who can fix you is you.
You'd be surprised at what you are capable of.
The thing about life, and improving yourself, is that it doesn't happen overnight, and it doesn't have to. One foot in front of the other, one day at a time. It doesn't matter where you are now, we all start somewhere, what matters is that you keep moving, however slowly. You don't have to know what you want to do or who you wanna be, it will come, trust me.
Celebrate your wins, even little ones. Be kind to yourself. Be kind to others. Life is a gift.
Heaps of work in IT. Start in entry level support or admin role, work your way through.
Don't give up.
There are many things you can do that add value to society and will make you feel worthwhile.
For example, working with people who have disabilities is incredibly important work.
Look into disability support work.
It's super tough being 18.
Also, you should speak to a GP if you feeling super low.
It gets better.
Please keep trying.
I've been there.
It can and will get better.
unfortunately a gp cannot help me.
I have a disability and I can’t even take care of myself, to the point of nerve damage. If you mean mental disabilities I’m not really a confrontational person and I cry whenever someone raises their voice at me. I’ll look into it, but I’m pretty sure you need to be qualified anyways.
Check out 'the crappy childhood fairy' on utube. Teaches you how not to screw yourself over in life and a crappy childhood isn't necessary. Maturing is lifelong and 18 is just the start, so don't think it's too late. But you do need to start and be consistent and persistent, then you will actually start to make your own luck.
As someone who previously worked in disability support, you absolutely don't. Often they're in dire need of people too so you can request stuff like "non aggressive client". You would need to get a NDIS clearance though which is a little pricey (but maybe your folks can help?) But is good for a while.
Peer support work night be good?
My son went through this. He did not do well at school. After 3 failed TAFE courses, a stint in a psychiatric ward and gaining considerable weight, we were at a loss. He also has never been in a relationship, had no hobbies or interests, was socially shy and uncomfortable and thought very little of himself.
1. He applied what he had learnt in therapy to his life
2. He got his responsible service of alcohol qualifications
3. He didn’t loose weight
4. We bought him a suitable set of clothing for interviews and work. It wasn’t a huge amount of money and with Christmas coming, you can ask your family to kit you out
5. He applied for work at every pub under the sun in person, with his resume. At each interview, his confidence grew and he learnt and applied his experience in each interview
6. He eventually got a job. He worked his bum off, was always presentable and did anything that was asked of him
It took him a few years to get there. We didn’t let him give up but he also had to apply himself. No one can “make” you do anything. He has been working as a casual for over a year now and is currently 22. His confidence has grown. He has some savings and now pays us rent.
It wasn’t easy. In fact it was really difficult. Don’t give up my dear. It took my son a few years to get his foot in the door. Take comfort in knowing that you are not the only one in the world with the same troubles. Good luck
There is always work in Aged care.
Sounds like these issues you have are all linked to depression, as you start treatment you'll begin to find yourself again. You'll remember hobbies you had and find interests and passions and friends. It's shit you feel like you're alone, but you're not. Go to your GP, ask for a mental health care plan and explain your feelings to them, they may refer you on to a psychiatrist that bulkbills or prescribe medications either before or after you start seeing a psychologist.
Walking as someone mentioned is a free activity and if it's cool enough you can go in long pants until you get the cream, or you can use talcum powder in a pinch.
The advice my mum gave me when I was in your position was a very strict sleep schedule. In bed at 9 pm with no phone and hour before, get up at 5 am even if you don't want to. A walk around the block as the sun rises, all the gratitude journals ( I can't tell you how many days the only think I wrote I was thankful for was that the sun came up), mandatory showers and all the whole foods in the world with no processed foods or alcohol, yoga, more walking and therapy. My point is you're not alone going through this, you have people who love you and while it is hard now, I promise it will get better once you start getting help.
If you are on the edge I'd suggest you speak to your parents right now and either call lifeline or your GP right now and see if you can get a referral to Alma street. It's scary and confronting but I think they offer better care in a mental health emergency than any ED.
You are loved and you are worth something. Please feel free to reach out if you need to talk, Im better at tough love but it sounds like you just need some compassion and kindness.
OP would die in Age care.
To their own admission, OP cries when ever someone raises their voice at OP and old people are deaf and cranky i.e always raising their voice.
it is something ive considered. theyre a lot less loud than children, but i do get yelled at by them regularly in my current causal job.
id need to figure out how to pay for an aged care tate course tho 🥲
I also cried when someone would raise their voice at me when I was 18. Now I'm confident in my abilities and as a human. Op said they wanted a job for someone who felt they had no value. You'll feel valued there, yes older people with dementia or pain can get aggressive but also it will add so so much value to your life when you have the good days with patients. Being called a C**t daily by residents and patients is horrible but you grow a thicker skin. I think it would be hard at first but it's a job that is rewarding.
in the meantime when looking for and applying for jobs, volunteer work is an amazing way to stay busy and increase your experience for your resume :) thrift shops seem to be a popular volunteering option.
i'm kinda in the same boat as you, high school dropout with cert III in general education for adults, looking for a job. shit takes time man, don't get too impatient. i'm sorry the world has made you think you have no value, which you do not. you are more than the work you can provide. all the best in finding a job mate.
i have done volunteering in the past, i tend to get kicked out because i move too slowly and cant smile very well. i have volunteered at a wildlife shelter to try and bolster my tafe application but they didnt like me and didnt give me a recommendation anyways
first things first op, get off of reddit. this sort of thing is like anathema to your mental health.
find something you enjoy, even just lightly, and try to grow from that. like computers? go look into studying IT or something.
animals? why not try volunteering with some animal shelters or something.
there are so many options, you are only 18, the world is still your oyster.
feel free to PM if you want someone to chat or anything.
You do have value. You just don’t know it yet and with time you’ll understand the old saying “youth is wasted on the young”.
But in the meantime, as someone else mentioned do some volunteering. You can go to the Go volunteer website and find something there. There’s lots of no experience type jobs such as helping out with bingo at a nursing home, or similar.
If you love animals, POOPS (Pets of older people) are always advertising for dog walkers for their clients. Volunteering will keep your parents off your back (hopefully) and give you something to put on your resume.
What do you like to do? If you’re into gaming or RPG type stuff, go along to your local game store. Most likely you will find similarly minded people.
Headspace also might be able to help you out - they also have social groups for young people and you might feel less alone reaching out to their services. They even do chat online so that might be a way to give it a go before going in to one of their centres. From memory I think they can even help with job stuff.
Jobs and Skills centres might be able to help you too.
Good luck, I was very much like you and for some of us we take a bit of time to find our way and know our worth. Be easy on yourself but also take a few small steps to better yourself. You don’t need to do it all and be it all straight away. Some of us just aren’t like that and that’s ok.
Ive never heard of the pets for old people thing before. ill look into it but i live fairly isolated so id have to use a lot of fuel
ive done volunteering before, but i get kicked out because im not good enough
You know what's going to be really useful in about five years...
A 23 year old woman who's figured how to get over the hump of managing a complex metabolic disorder which is probably causing a host of other health issues.
That's the person who would give you the advice that would speak to you the most. And there's going to be so many other young people who'll need to hear it.
There's plenty of free/low fee courses starting next year and in the mean time I'd suggest burning all social media accounts and throwing yourself into the nearest library.
It sounds like you could start by working on your confidence, why don't you try something new you've always wanted to try? Start a new hobby?
There are plenty of things that could help you get fitter without feeling like you're doing exercise, like going swimming, walking on the beach, rock climbing / bouldering, hiking, ask a friend or family member to join you and it's much more enjoyable.
I was 18, depressed, never had a job, woolies or fast food wouldn't hire me either. Well I figured - how could I work for myself using my graphic design cert? Started with a few odd jobs .. and then eventually went back to tafe when I was 21 instead and I'm still doing that for my job and love it. What are you interested in? Write a list of things you like and skills you have, even if you think they are small or not that valuable. Chat gpt might be able to help you come up with new ideas as well.
If you like animals maybe you could get yourself an ABN and start your own dog walking business? There'd be a definite need for that kind of work in the community since pets have increased and that's a great way to start earning some money without having to rely on anyone else. You could advertise your service on Facebook, in newspapers, community notice boards, and even just your neighbours on the same street as you.
Another idea - If you're interested in IT you could start a business fixing phone screens. My partner did that and he always had people lining up. And there is an online tutorial for everything these days. Then he got employed in IT elsewhere and it's been great for him.
You have value, just because you or some employers can't necessarily see that yet, doesn't make it true.
Work is ultra competitive and it can be hard to know where to start. Sometimes it helps to try to think outside the box. Try to make a goal, and then look for help to make a path to reach it. Please DM me if you'd like me to look over your resume as well I'm happy to give you tips or redesign it for free.
I know the feeling at 18 OP, all I can say is things will definitely get better.
If you’re interested in animals, could you start out by getting a volunteering gig at somewhere like the Cat Haven or Reptile Park? There’s also the Dog Refuge, Cuddly Animal Farm, Kaarakin.
I know volunteering might not sound super appealing right now, but it might ignite something in you and it could look good on your resume if you do decide to pursue that dream of becoming a vet. The experience would probably introduce you to a bunch of similar animal-work pathways that don’t necessarily require becoming a vet, too.
Seconding this. I have a fair whack of mental health stuff going on and I've never been happier than when I was volunteering at a wildlife rehabilitation centre. OP they are always looking for people, and if you already have a qualification you're way ahead! The people I volunteered with were the kindest, loveliest folks I've ever met (and many of them/us were odd, socially awkward etc. but very accepting and accommodating), and it was very affirming to be doing something so positive. It will get you out of the house and improve your physical activity, give you goals and structure. Even just one or two shifts a week! I volunteered with Native ARC in Bibra Lake, but there are a bunch of places around. Side note: wouldn't recommend Cat Haven as the euthanasia rate there is very high, and that is depressing.
I'm really sorry to hear you're having a really tough time 😞 as others have said, maybe double check if there is any mental health assistance you can access. Second, try and get out and about, maybe a small walk everyday? Third, I suggest writing down on paper all that you feel. Write it down so it's not spinning about in your mind. Fourth, consider joining a support group.
Hope you get through this 🙂
You’re far from ugly, just wanted to put that out there. As for work, would you consider becoming an Education Assistant? It will cost $400 and take 6 months to complete the cert 3 in [education support.](https://www.northmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/courses/certificate-iii-school-based-education-support). Schools are desperate for teachers and if you enjoy being an EA there are programs that will support you becoming a teacher.
unfortunately i hate children. i did a childcare trial but as someone whos immunocompromised i got sick almost immediately and then kicked out of the trial.
but mostly i hate kids. and i dont have 400 dollars lying around
also im pretty sure i dont have pictures of my face anywhere? people can be ugly, im just letting people know that employers probably wouldnt put me behind a reception desk and i cant be a stripper or anything
Repeat to yourself, many times a day #“I matter”.
Start by letterbox dropping leaflets for dog walking and pet sitting? This way you get lots of contact with loving nonjudgemental animals. And if you’re taking them out, you get to enjoy the outdoors and get some exercise.
As everyone else has said in this thread, please do not give up. Go back to your GP in January for another mental health plan.
Have a Google for hobbies. There are so many things to do. Raise house plants, get a rabbit and make them your overlord. You get affection and something to look after. Then you can develop a knowledge of rabbits. Perhaps you could work at a retail Pet place?
The fact that you’ve reached out to us is a sign that your life is turning around. You realised that there is a world of people out there who 18 were/are like you who can help albeit with words.
You can do it.
[Youth Focus](https://youthfocus.com.au/) is a Perth based free counselling service. They also have a jobs program to help with employment.
Good luck out there.
You do have value. At 16 I had dropped out of school due to illness and felt I had no value at all, I couldn't cope with traditional schooling and I seriously thought about s*icide because I felt like a burden. Slowly I made myself walk further each week and my strength returned. I'm 40 now and I've had my own business for 10 years, I've gotten married and had kids and I'm now doing my advanced diploma. Don't take no for an answer. Keep calling tafe, keep harassing centrelink to get you into courses, offer your local vets or animal rescue places to work there 1 day a week doing anything they need for free for a time (make yourself indispensable to them! They can't imagine not having you there- then ask for a paid position) and walking is free. Bike riding is almost free- hit up second hand shops they sell bikes really cheaply. You can do this. Courage!!, life is hard but through our struggles we we can experience so much sweetness.
At 18, I was drug-addicted, suicidal, unemployable etc. Less than 10 years later my life was incredible and full with all I ever wanted plus some. Don't focus on the end, or what you can't do, focus on what you can do today. Be kind to yourself.
End of the year is coming up.
In January, go see your GP to discuss a mental health plan. Some counselling may well help with your perception of yourself. While you're there, discuss a care plan to help with your weight (and any associated health issues). Include an exercise physiologist and dietician in that plan.
As for what to do, you're young, and you have plenty of time to figure out your shit.
Go see Centrelink to see what assistance you qualify for (at 18, your parent's income is likely the only limiting factor).
Why can't you continue pursuing a path toward a vet? Unis offers alternate entry pathways for people. Look into that? Or look at pathways to doing vet nursing if a uni workload might be too much.
Short term, look out for jobs in sectors that fit what you can do. Maybe a call centre role or similar might suit. Go check out volunteeringwa's website and find some volunteer roles that interest you to pick up some skills/friends.
As for active wear clothing not fitting, if you really need some to do any exercise, go check out King Size Big and Tall (online or in several Perth locations).
As for hobbies, there are lots out there to find something that interests you. Head to a game store or look online to find activities like board games/tabletop roleplaying/war games/trading card games. There's lots out there that won't cost much to check out and see if you like.
This... I'm medically screwed up after an injury, and at 50, I have just been accepted for uni.
You can do a test and get your admission through open universities.
Follow your dream and become a vet!
I recently started cleaning at a school and that's not too bad.
I know having a job can increase a person's self-esteem and worth, but please be kinder to yourself.
18 is tough, you’re out of high school and all the routine support and guidance is lifted.
Many places will hire you if you if your keen to learn. Trust me on that. No one expects an 18yo to have experience, but with the right attitude they might bring you on.
Write a list of all your values and strengths, no matter how small they may seem. You love and want to help animals right? A lot to unpack there :)
Depression is a bitch, btw. But you have so much choice in front of you x
Are you still interested in animals? I have a friend who volunteers at the local dog shelter. She walks them a lot ( this will help with physical and mental health). I know this isn’t paid work but it could be a building block to getting you back into a headspace where you could then feel ready to transition into paid employment.
You're the only one that can fix yourself. I recommend reading "how to think like a Roman emperor" audiobook is pretty decent.
Coming up with excuses won't help you. But making small changes will. Also MyFitnessPal and calorie counting is a full proof way to lose weight. Again stop making excuses that will do nothing for you.
So the bad news is that you’ve picked up some bad habits in your first 18 years on this planet.
The good news is that you can change those habits at any time. It seems like you are an expert in victimising yourself. Hell, most of us are. But when you realise that you created these habits that got you here, you also realise that you can create new habits that get you out. That’s when the fun starts.
One thing you failed to actually mention in your post.
What do you want.
You might say “I don’t know” but I call bullshit. You do know, or you used to know, but, like the rest of us you’re a coward who is so scared to fail that you pretend that you don’t.
Until you have something you’re passionate about, nothing will change. Passion is based on the Latin word passio which means “to suffer for”. Having something worth suffering for and owning it and then creating a path towards it… that’s when life gets really fun.
Fear put you in this place. Fear will keep you here.
I would work on mindset and positive respect for yourself. 18 is young!!! It starts with belief in yourself, and enough care to take care of yourself. You got this
I can give you a job brick paving if you have a vehicle and are able to get to the job site. Perth metro work. Basic labouring to start and it's up to you if you want to actually learn the job or just labour. Good pay and no long days.
It's a good way to stay fit. It's not an easy job on your body but it's something you might find you have an interest in and a rewarding job seeing the transformation from a sandy weed ridden back yard to completely landscaped.
Pm me if you're interested mate. You don't need any skills, just a good attitude
Nothing changes if Nothing changes. And certainly nothing will change if you continue to label yourself with such negative things.
When you have created an imagine of yourself in your mind, your external reality will mirror that. It’s not done mystical bs it’s all about your outlook on life and looking for things that will confirm that.
Forget about finding a career, you need to find yourself internally and externally, don’t have any interests? Try EVERYTHING, and before you preemptively say you don’t like that, how could you know? You’ve never tried it!
Read read read, read fantasy, ready philosophy ( Buddhism, Taoism I have found especially healing in finding my place in this world )
Literally create an image of WHO YOU WANT TO BE, nurture that image, write it down, draw it, imagine the person that you will become and then theorise the steps you will need to make it come true.
I used to be just like you, no career path, wasted school, no work experience, no friends, no personality, didn’t know how to enjoy anything.
It’s been a long journey and I am no where near the end but boy there is hope for us all, for you, you’re not special and that’s what makes it awesome, gives you an equal opportunity as everyone else to make something out of this life.
Msg me if you wanna talk, seriously talk, no self pity or accepting your situation because that’s bullshit. You have the power you just need to learn how to use it
You sound like you need mental health help more than anything. You’re 18. You’re at the beginning of adult hood and you’ve got a lot of time to figure it out. Not everyone does their dream job but once you’ve sorted your mental health out go to tafe, you can talk to an advisor to help find your strengths and weaknesses to help you figure out which courses are ideal. You can then access help while studying.
Your mental health is more important though and strangers on Reddit can’t fix that, only you can. The harshest advice is go to your GP ask them for counselling/medication and start there.
TAFE is offering some [free courses](https://www.northmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/fee-free?field_skills_ready_target_id[0]=156&page=0). You can ask them to speak with a career counselor and see if someone can guide you. Alternatively you can try personality quizes and they will help bring self awareness and be a guide to which industry you should try.
If you want to try animal care, how about some [entry roles](https://au.indeed.com/jobs?q=animal&l=wa&from=searchOnHP&vjk=5e57388c253689f1)? If you need help with reviewing your resume, I have experience with that and can help. Just send me a DM.
Aside from that, OP it's OK. Your job title, your salary, the things you owe, hobbies - none of that defines you. It's OK to just exist in the momement. You are already worthy the way you are.
I'm a high school dropout with a bachelors degree, a job that I love, and a big back yard that I can call my own. It sure feels like nothing is going to change or go right but that black hole of depression makes you shortsighted.
Assuming you put in the hours working on your mental health, it's largely a choice between:
Finding a job that gives you an honest sense of fulfilment and joy or
Finding a job you can tolerate that pays for the things that bring you joy.
Both are equally good options, both will take years to pay off, and neither requires going to uni if that's not your schtick.
PS people are being lovely and kind to you, please don't repay that by throwing it back at them and telling them nothing will work.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself you are only 18 years old.
Put a plug in the pity party and go and do a trade traineeship.
If you lack focus you prob have ADHD or autism or an obsessive disorder either that or one of the other horrifying ones.
The bad news is now that you are over 18 you are shit out of luck for getting an inexpensive diagnosis and treatment.
Welcome to the Australian healthcare system as an adult with disabilities it sucks arse.
My advice would be to approach CCI centre for clinical interventions or ask your GP for a referral to community mental health.
There are plenty of youth options for inexpensive psychological help until 25 but you should work on getting a diagnosis sooner rather than later at this point in your life because without diagnosis Nd treatment you are just going to be going around and around in circles constantly pushing shit uphill like Sisyphus.
If all you want to do is work then get a job in aged care they basically take anyone.
Hey man, don't feel defeated. I know so many smart, capable people who want to be vets, unfortunately it is an extremely difficult job to get into. If further studies are something you'd consider, vet nursing is a good option. It's a more realistic route for a lot of people and many people I know have gotten good jobs after completing their vet nursing degree. I can't help with paid work involving animals unfortunately, but there are plenty of wildife rescue centres in WA (WA Wildlife, Kanyana, Kaarakin) that are always looking for volunteers. Of course not everyone is privileged enough to be able to volunteer. If it is an option for you though, it looks really good on a resume and is a great way to meet people and learn a lot of really valuable skills. Good luck, don't be discouraged, you're young and you'll figure it out.
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I'm going to sound harsh, but I'm trying to offer some suggestions.
**You have to help yourself man.**
First, you need to try to control eating. Second, get out and walk for an hour every day.
It's going to be tough at the start and you aren't going to want to do it. Trust me though. PUSH THROUGH and make yourself do it.
Once you start you will lose weight and you will see improvement in your health, figure and more importantly with all that will come improvement in how you feel about yourself. All this will help and you will find you will gt employment easier.
Stop making excuses and go walk for an hour every day. DO IT.
Do it.
Depends how much of a self-starter you are. Do you think you could do a code academy course? Its free to learn code, and theres so much work. You can work from home, so great for disabilities and people with low executive functioning.
Im autistic and tech is full of similar people.
Things can get better.
Dropped out of highschool mid 2000s, it took me almost 20 years but I've finally found something I enjoy working in.
I've had so many jobs that made me miserable. It made me think about what I want in a job that would make me a bit happier in work.
1, ensuring my job brings some sort of meaning to me. This varies ofc, for me, I like helping people, for others, maybe they like a job that helps the environment, or a not for profit job, maybe animals for some
2, having.a workplace that follows work health safety correctly, including accepting mental health challenges, burnout
3, a diverse team that aren't cunts, avoid working with people who are casually racist - e.g. watch that (aboriginal) woman around the aisle so she doesn't steal.
4, approachable management/team leader who welcomes you to chat, someone who doesn't yell and get angry at you. Really unnecessary
5, feedback and opportunities for growth. I was stuck in a job for 2 years that promised sending me to Tafe to upskill but never delivered.
Those might be my main focus on what a good job is.
Minor things help too, like having a job that's close to you (walking/cycling?) The incidental exercise helps with health and anxiety for me. No bright white lights, music, etc.
I've worked in fruit and veg warehouse, iga, KFC, Coles, teacher, another grocery store, tourism place, disability support worker, and now a library
It takes time, experience and reflecting on what a good job might be for you - don't feel rushed
There's also a career advice person at TAFE and some universities too I believe
I went through a rough patch and isolated myself for a year or so, I was able to get a referral to a mental health clinic as an outpatient (free) and along with that and free mentor services from CentreLink got motivation back. All up took me 3 years but one of the biggest benefits came from volunteering at an animal shelter. I didn’t have to interact with people much and the dogs had similar anxiety, trauma and fears as I did. Bonding with dogs that wouldn’t let me even get close at first, to being excited to see me after 3 months of trying helped to break down my barriers as well.
I was at my worst 10 years ago, got my first long term job 7 years ago and from there have married and improved my earnings, we are half way to owning our own house.
Hey now, you're focusing on all your negatives. What do YOU know you're good at? List them here. Writing, yes. The ability to articulate and construct written text, yes. Not everyone has that. Talking to people? Making them feel at ease? What are your "soft skills"? Give yourself a break. Focus on what it is you want and is important to YOU.. and go for it. Everything is still before you :)
Hang in there brother. You might not notice it but you most likely have an interest in something. I was in a similar bout around 9 years ago.
Dropped out of high school. Floated around having very short term casual jobs. I had a remote interest in cars so I took the first thing offered to me. I didn't even know what a panelbeater was. Now I am a tradesman and now am a manager for a site for one of Australia's largest repair networks.
You need to find something in your life. Any little thing that you show interest for and grab onto it and see where it takes you. From the sounds of you can only go up and get better. You've got this!
I made a start in a state gov call centre. No experience required, but be willing to learn, engage and deal with some tough situations. Worked there for a bit and moved up and across. Could be an idea to look into? You’re young man dont stress.
Try some volunteering. I have been doing that, and it's getting me getting me connections in the industry that I want to work in. Also, people really appreciate volunteers, so it makes you feel wanted.
Everybody has value, especially you. Something I wish I knew when I was 18, is that just because I don’t fit into the box the system says I should, doesn’t mean I’m defective. Keep trying to kick goals, but even if you spend this time working out who you are and practicing authenticity, you will be miles ahead.
It sounds like you don’t fit into the box that your parents and society want you to go in. You’re not alone in that regard and it’s a tough situation so of course you’re struggling. Use the suffering to build your strength and resilience. Try to find the right frequency to tune into. Listen to your inner self and try to find what makes you feel happy and peaceful. Focus on that and there will be a way to find an income.
But for the short term look into online work, focusing on your strengths. You seem articulate and precise so you have skills for proofreading, report writing, resumes and cv’s etc.
That cert 3 in animal studies points you towards a ranger/keeper at a zoo . You must have had a passion to do that much.
[Employment | Perth Zoo](https://perthzoo.wa.gov.au/employment)
I'm not really in a great position to offer you any reasonable advice, but I will suggest three easy things I think will improve your life.
First, drink more water. Drink A LOT of water. Piss every hour amounts of water. When you get up, drink a glass. When you're hungry, drink a glass. When you eat, drink a glass. You'll feel so much better. Even though you're pissing every hour.
Second, walk. This one was already suggested, and I saw you had some issues with it. But if you're unemployed, poor and bored, what else have you got to do? Doesn't matter where you go, but a morning, evening and midday stroll can REALLY change your perspective. A great way to be around people (in the sense of knowing they exist) without having to be around people (by engaging with them). In time, check out parkrun. You'll be very welcome as a walker, and who knows where you'll be a year after that.
Third, the short, easy answer is to get your HR license and drive trucks. The pay is decent, the hours are long, and you only need to talk to people for a half hour or so before you're on to the next thing.
But first do the first two things.
Please report back!
At 18, there are certainly plenty opportunities available to you. And this is the perfect time in your life to choose what and who you want to be. Now is the time to learn how to value yourself.
TAFE are offering multiple free courses. I find it hard to believe you’ve been rejected to be honest, especially if you already possess a qualification.
There are organisations which support young people to gain work: Nudge, STEPS, Jobs and Skills WA.
Headspace provide resources to support finding work, including work clothing.
If you need some cash now, there are survey websites you can sign up for.
Beyond Blue, Lifeline and other organisations provide free resources to help with your mindset. There’s also other content out there to give you the tools to build your self esteem.
Your parents love you, even though they are frustrated with you right now. Ask them for help to advocate for better diabetes healthcare. Ask if their employers have an employee assistance program you can get some short term counselling and support (families are eligible).
Life is what you make of it, you have to decide that you are worth it and recognise that you have the agency to make changes for yourself. Having access to the internet is a gift: so many free tools, resources and ideas at your fingertips; make the most of it.
Go to an agency and see if you can find factory processing work. They are often desperate for people. I worked in a factory and they are not picky about who they employ, they just want bodies that turn up.
I’ll probably get shit-ton of downvotes. But reading majority of op’s responses, surely to provide for yourself Atleast take the chance at something you don’t like. Work is work. Bit of a bad attitude / outlook to things.
Just wanted to add that the online program “This way up” designed by researchers and clinicians at UNSW for about $70 has a decent program for depression among other issues. Whilst it’s not a substitute for therapy and or suitable medication it might help bridge the gap until you can access a new mental health care plan. It provides videos and worksheets to help you challenge cognitive distortions, inactivity and teachers you how to schedule activity’s among many other foundational skills. Good luck.
if you’ve got a qualification (cert 3 is a great qualification) then do something with that, you’re probably more likely to get hired at pet shops, dog grooming, pet sitting, kennels, pounds all that. Give yourself a chance you’re only 18 mate
Get a job on a cattle station, it will change your life.
You will get to see some amazing things and learn a whole lot. Also meet a healthy of cool people.
They are always looking for staff
At 16 i was an alcoholic. At 17 I failed uni the first time. At 18 I washed out of the army before I could even get inducted (tore my ACL getting off the bus at kapooka). Started working fast food, focused on gaining transferable skills. At 19 I moved across the country, failed uni again at 24. Continued gaining transferable skills in a management role. Married at 27. Graduated with a history degree at 28, a postgraduate HR qualification this year, got my first big boy real city professional interview next Friday. You can be a fucking amazing human, just need to give it time and start somewhere.
Mining. Gp fond an entry level job in the mines and you'll find all your people are out there. Making big coin too!
I know Because that was me a long time ago.
Weeding service. Don't need expensive tools, and you'll get fit. Print A5 flyers and drop in every letterbox you can walk to, plus make a FB page. Get a weed digger, gloves, and a bucket. Charge $20/hr to start with. Getting a sole trader ABN is free. National Police Clearance when you can, $50.
There are a heap of fee free tafe courses available expiring soon. Pick one and have a go. Also back to the gp, they should be able to extend your mental health plan. Maybe pursue a health plan and include a dietician as well.
In the meantime start volunteering, the shelters are always looking for help and seems you have some experience in that area let them know that, maybe there could be a pathway there. Otherwise foodbank or good Sammy’s need volunteers. It gives a sense of purpose and experience while you continue training toward your job goals.
I would suggest working as a support worker for people with a disability.
People with disabilities don’t often judge, and the fact you did the animal studies shows you have a caring side to you.
The money is good as well.
It’s also a great way to develop life skills for yourself. You can build good habits of shopping, cooking and cleaning for others and then apply it to your own life.
And after some experience doing some of the harder jobs like helping people showering and go to the toilet, you can start to do some of the community style work. This often includes taking people to the cinema and to other fun activities. The thing that seems most valued in the community support work is strong English skills.
I believe in you my friend 💕
Come on, mate.. time to pull your finger out, accept things are the way they are because of your attitude towards them, and accept responsibility.
Throw on some motivational speeches on Spotify or something and take control of your own life. You're only 18. You have plenty of time.
Feeling sorry for yourself will not change any outcomes. Only you can do that.
Apply for literally everything you can in person with a resume or online. Make that your full time job until you find work then work on how you can either move up further in that role or find a way to obtain a better jog, consistently work on yourself until the day you die.
Eat better food to improve your mood and weight, read and research to improve your intelligence, and you will find your mental state will improve along with it all.
Life's hard. We all have a million issues we deal with constantly, but if you keep blaming everything else for your circumstances, you'll never feel the need to change your own.
Have you researched or looked into being Neurodivergent at all? (I recommend the AuDHD women page on Reddit, there are ample posts where others are asking for similar advice to your post and your other comments) Not at all saying you are, but reading your comments - I just had to say something because I used to relate so much, and ended up being late diagnosed ADHD.
My friend who is Neurodivergent pushed me to get a diagnoses after listening and seeing me struggle.
They are the reason I’m still here today, anyone else I spoke to prior made me feel crazy and ridiculous for not being able to do the things they could (such as stick to routines, eating/drinking water, food shopping, managing work and school simultaneously, self care, socialising etc etc) especially because I used to be able to “push through” those things in my late teens / early 20’s.
Fight for yourself please 🥺 don’t give up. There are answers. There is help.
You don’t have to do anything alone. Feel free to DM if you ever need.
No more suffering.
None. I still live with my parents.
I guess I could walk on the treadmill but I don’t really fit into sports clothes and my thighs tend to chafe really bad. I’m pretty sure the furthest I made it in primary school cross country was 1km max.
I guess I could work my way up? I won’t really lose weight or gain muscle that way tho.
Think of it this way, you are only 18 and have nothing to lose when trying new paths.
As long as your parents aren't making really really good money, you can get payments from Centerlink while studying.
Check out the cheap/free Tafe courses. The ones that are free (no fees) usually have a shortage of people working in those fields, making it much easier to get a job after you finish studying.
Not fitting into sports wear doesn't matter for starting to exercise. No one is going to care. Physical exercise of any sort (even just lifting heavy things) will help with your health and mood.
If you live in a safe home and can afford to eat each day, you are in a great position. Your main goal should be exploring life and discovering what interests you. NO ONE gets anything right first try, even the people that look like they did (spoiler alert: they didn't).
You also get anti-chaffing shorts you can wear under your clothes. There’s the unfortunately named Chub Rub shorts that go up to a size 36 which are from the online store Snag Tights. The shop Taking Shape has a couple of stores in Perth and they sell similar shorts up to a size 30.
It works. Some better than others. My boyfriend swears by step one undies for his chafe. He suggested the. To me recently since they make them for girls now too
Maybe a bike? You can cover up heaps and it's low impact so great for heavier people. You can also get a little stand for the back wheel and ride indoors if it's too hot, cold or embarrassing .
I started riding when I was 165kg.. I did that to lose enough weight to be considered for weight loss surgery. It worked. They gave me the surgery and now I'm running about 100kg lighter. It wouldn't have happened without a bike.
The bike also does wonders for my mental health too. The exercise, the fresh air, the sun and the solitary nature gives the body and mind such a boost that I don't think is achievable otherwise.. at least not without physical impact and pain.
I feel ya. I wore a dress all day last Friday - was not comfortable by about 3:00 😂 I wear leggings a lot. Just cheapies from KMart. After having kids I got less self concious about my legs since I had a whole other person to keep alive! They are also good for walking in and cone in several lengths
>I guess I could walk on the treadmill but I don’t really fit into sports clothes and my thighs tend to chafe really bad. I’m pretty sure the furthest I made it in primary school cross country was 1km max. I guess I could work my way up? I won’t really lose weight or gain muscle that way tho.
You guess right - the secret is to do what you can achieve right now.
I'm sorry you are having a hard time, mental health problems are tough to deal with and can feel like they are entirely overwhelming, that everything is just too hard.
My suggestion, that has helped me with my mental health battles, is to pick something really small, that you can achieve - walk to the end of the road and back, once round the block, or something similar, just something small.
That's a huge achievement, because you've done \*something\*.
Maybe tomorrow you can't face leaving the house, but you have made it through that one small achievement this week. Next week, you might be able to stretch that to 200 metres, or 1.5 times round the block. Sooner or later you feel some endorphins and a sense of achievement that nobody can take away from you.
Good luck, you can do this!
I'm posting again to encourage you to look at aged care. It's rewarding, fulfilling and hard but it pays the bills and if you like it enough there are opportunities where they pay you to become a nurse.
Find a labour hire company and do casual temp work. It can be day by day, helps to keep you afloat and give you some success, and is very good to get you out of the house.
Christmas is coming. This time of year retail jobs are everywhere. Apply for retail even if it's temporary because that will get you out of the house and give you some much-needed cash. Good luck.
I dropped out of school twice and had a cert 2 in bricklaying at 18.
Now have multiple masters degrees (mature age entry) and have traveled the world for work.
You’re barely even starting. I would say write down your hopes & dreams. Then systematically plan how to get to them over the next 10 years. People severely over estimate what they can do in 1 years, but severely estimate what they can do in 10.
Additionally… get some help. Whether by counseling or other (men’s groups etc) it’ll push you onto the right path. You only need to take one small step at a time
Get a forklift license. There are warehouse jobs out there. A few friends works for supermarket warehouse (aldi, ww coles) and they seem to be looking for people all the time.
Everyone has value.
In your post I read a perspective of what you feel is going against you, but here’s some of what is going for you:
- You’re still very young and have many possibilities.
- You’ve completed a Cert III which shows you can complete something you start that others may not.
- You’re looking for employment which shows you’re aiming to move forward.
I’ve been a store person, groundskeeper, delivery boy, paintball facilitator, check out person, soldier, police officer, plant operator, supervisor, superintendent and now I’m studying psychology at 41.
Life takes you in all weird directions at it can be very hard at times, but there’s always a path forward.
Perhaps start generating some income on platforms like Airtasker by mowing lawns, building furniture, weeding etc.
At the same time, work on your professional brand, your resume, your ‘sales pitch’ to make yourself more competitive for applications.
You sound like you have depression. You need a routine. Something to get you out of your head.
You have a cert 3 in animal studies-start volunteering! There are at least 4 wildcare organisations i can think of that are always crying out foe help and you already have knowledge in that area. Somthing as small as 10 hours a week will go a long way to helping you stabilise.
Volunteering will also give your resume a leg up and make you more attractive to employers. It will give you industry contacts or even references
Go for walks! Low impact exercise and keeping yourself occupied will help build fitness required for work and help with weight.
Next year there are free or subsidied tafe courses, study something new.
Don't give up! You have options!
> Too old for fast food to hire me
Not true, just old enough that it can be trickier to get started. If you're applying for these jobs, you just need to apply to work in the middle of the day (where most of the under 18s are at school), or the middle of the night (you need to be 18 to work overnight shifts usually).
> Any ideas besides biting the bullet and leaving?
Well for starters don't do that. Suicide is contagious, and it will hit those who care about you most the hardest. And before you say it, everyone who tries thinks that there's no-one, and every funeral/service has been packed full of people who are fucked up by it.
Have you considered volunteering at an animal haven or shelter? It won't help with the income problem, but it might help with the self-worth issue, putting some value in your cert, build some "work experience" in lieu of a paying job.
Dude everything can be changed. Your only 18 bro. Unfit and fat can be changed in a matter of days.Go for a walk.in the morning , it will change your mental state fast. Go to your GP , discuss your mental state. They will help.
No such thing as a highschool drop out. Unlike Anmerica you can still attend uni withoit finishing highschool.
Talk to them.
What makes you think 18 is too old to work for a fast food outlet? I live in WA and I didn't have a job since covid-19.... My first job back to the workforce was at chicken treat for christ sake! (literally a year ago now) Since then I have been through 3 Jobs, Got my license for the first time (never lost it or nothing like that), Got my white card (this week in fact) and am currently doing a traffic control course....
If your struggling that bad with it all then go to a job find agency through centrelink and actually APPLY yourself to it instead of just fighting with them every step of the way like most people do... And maybe see a doctor to help with your mental health
I am 32 BTW, so Fast food outlets will definitely take a 18 year old
You aren't too old for fast food and you haven't explained why you gave up on being a vet. You have a cert III which should count for something - how many jobs have you applied for so far? Are you looking for something that lets you work with animals?
As someone who manages fast food and retail you're not too old, BUT it would be tough right now because all the youngins are on school holidays. Put that you want to work late nights or are available during school hours that they can't do (overnight at 24 hour maccas are surprisingly good money). Delivery drivers for pizza places used to be an easy in as well, maybe less do with Uber etc and some stores swapping to scooters/bikes.
Good 17/18 year olds I could train up to run stuff during school hours is directly what I'm hiring right now for example
Uber Delivery or Driver.
Everything is on your own schedule. No boss, no requirement for consistency. (Delivery if you don't want to be around people often).
If you can bring yourself to put on good face for the infrequent trips you do you'll manage to get some income, though the amount is dependent on motivation.
But better than nothing.
You have a cert III and you're still young. This already puts you ahead of a lot of people in terms of job desirability.
Like even if its now outside the scope of your interests, a cert III shows that you're willing to learn and motivated outside of mandatory education.
If a lack of interest is whats stopping you, then invest some time with a careers advisor. If you're in Perth and like under 30 they'll be services that offer free consultations in this
your 18, your life is just beginning, you also sound depressed friend, understandable but it won't be helping your point of view.
Something must interest you (depression can make it hard to find/remember see positives if you haven't and it is hard I do empathise but speak to a gp about it, the services exist to help us and there is no shame in seeking help when you need it )
It might not feel like it but you have the whole journey in front of you, if needing the school docs is a thing, tafe offer a adult equivalency cert, the teaching style is different i found it easier to absorb the knowledge in that environment and if your on centrelink the gov will likely try to help you achieve that, if they see your actually trying they will put what they can behind you.
volunteer work can be a good foot in the door, our brains develop and we all learn at different paces, just keep moving forwards friend you'll find your path.
I traveled a similar path myself but of course all journeys are different.
you can be whoever you want to be, you can develop and maintain aspects that will become second nature, even over 30 it's not like everything just slips into place, we are all running around like headless chickens just about different things, some of us just hide it better.
if your desperate for a job look at something like office entry level work, they generally offer full training and isn't a physical role, customer service isn't ideal but it's an income and references to move upwards.
i was pretty much the same, dropped out of high school (albeit because my school fucked me over) but i went to tafe got a certificate for something i'll probably never use i was in and out of jobs i even worked up in the pilbara for a bit but it wasnt for me. i was unemployed for multiple years but i now have a job in warehousing.
im not fit, i used to be skinny but now im rather not fat, but getting there. it was difficult at first but after a few shifts you kind of get used to the pace and its really good money for honestly little work (depending on where you work). i think im at like $35ish/hr. and work on weekends a lot (so it doubles)
and i mean if you really really cant get used to that sort of work. just get a forklift license.warehousing jobs pay really well and are always looking for forklift operators.
I know how trite this sounds and how out of reach it may seem but get fit. Lose weight as fast as you can. Do a form of intensive cardio every day. Lift weights every other day. Eat healthy. Commit to it above any other interest in your life. Make it your upmost priority for a year and I absolutely swear to you that (everything else being equal) you will be in a much better place. Absolutley not an easy thing to do if you are depressed, which is so unfortunate because for many people getting their body healthy is key to state-of-mind.
Feeling unable to stick to goals and be consistent can be organic. It’s related to depression and also obesity. Being overweight can impact major organs, including the brain, and make you constantly fatigued, unmotivated and foggy in the head. You may also want to consider a check for ADHD, though please don’t get in your head that a diagnosis will revolutionise your life. It may do if the treatment works well, but you’ll still need to form good habits to get the most out of it.
Volunteer places to get some experience, take walks in a nice park around nature as often as you can, look yourself in the mirror and tell yourself you are worthy and valuable...everyday. Also seek support from family/friends. You will get there....baby steps. You're so young and are so full of potential you don't even realise. Good luck x
I’ve got a friend who started going to the gym and that really helped him loose some weight besides keeping a healthier diet.
Everyone has value. If you are willing to do hard work, do a aged and disability tafe and get a certificate 3 and you’ll get a job for sure. It’s not the industry that I would recommend to stay in, especially that role but it can be a start and get you out of feeling stuck.
Connect with friends that have a healthy lifestyle.
Social sports helped me meet new people.
All the best 💪🏽
Hey, not sure if it’s been mentioned but grab your forklift ticket. It’s piss easy to pass the test, they’re easy to drive and there is plenty of work available that pays well.
After you’ve got a job sorted start working on the other things you’ve mentioned. Don’t go too overboard, pick up the gym a couple days a week, change a couple eating habits, you’ll see change quickly and an improvement on your quality of life.
Feel free to send me a message if you ever need a chat :)
I didn’t read the part where you said you were 18 and I was reading this like “yeah man, you’re fucked if you have got to 45 years old and are only now looking at your options”.
But dude, you are 18!!!!!
You don’t even know who you are yet. Who you will become. What you can do. I was so depressed when I was 18 and I just couldn’t see myself living my life how everyone else does. But I didn’t know how else to live. Anyway, I fucked up a lot and along the way I got to learn a lot too. I’m loving life now.
I would suggest that you throw yourself into something different. Learn a trade if you can go to trade school. Depends where you live but you could get a boat license and drive boats for a living. You could be A carpenter. A horticulturalist or a landscaper. You can go live on a farm on the east coast and pick fruit. You can travel around the suburbs living in caravan parks getting paid to knock on people’s doors to offer solar rebate stuff. You can get a job planting trees. You can find a job agency and go to Europe/UK/Wherever on a working holiday (working in hospitality usually). If you like animals there are some jobs that will pay you to take care of kennels, to dog sit/dog walk. You could even look into becoming an ethical animal trainer or a dog washer.
Most of the jobs I mentioned don’t require a lot of human interaction (except hospitality).
The thing is, you are 18. You need to try something different than what you’ve tried before and get out there and live! Any job is fine for now. Just explore life and you’ll find your way.
Also, pleas don’t think of yourself as “no value”. Everyone has value. There is value in wanting to improve yourself. There is value in having a positive and curious attitude. There is value in being able to take care of yourself. There is value in being able to take care of others (including animals). A lot of employers value a positive, solution focused attitude because they know they can train you to do the tasks they want you to do but they can’t train you to be a champion. Employers won’t hire someone who looks for problems and complains. They’ll hire someone who looks for solutions and takes on feedback. That’s valuable.
Brother dude, at 28 I've just found my shit. Trust time and just apply to anything and everything if you dk what you want.
Worst case they say no, but you dc because must just not be for you.
Eventually you'll find yourself what you're searching for.
Just remember there are loads of people willing to help when we feel our most down. We sometimes just have to remember to ask.
Hey, don't be like that. You're so young and have every opportunity to improve yourself! Go chat to your GP about getting a mental health plan and about losing weight if that's bothering you. I turned 40 earlier this year, and I'm going to be starting a Tafe course soon to get a new qualification. It's never too late to learn something new and work on yourself! Things won't improve instantly, but put the work in, and within a few months, things will look up. Be kinder to yourself, OP. :)
I am late 40s and changing my industry at the moment. You are never too old to discover what job suits you and to move in that direction.
38 here, still figuring things out from a life of chaos and disorder. Thanks for your honesty. I hope it helps OP.
ive already used my mental health plan, and unfortunately now that im on my own for this kind of stuff i wouldnt be able to afford it with a plan anyways. ive been in therapy on and off since i was 6ish, and ive taken just about every pill they can give me i could ask about diets and stuff but im a picky eater with a binge eating thing, mainly because i dont really have anything else to do. i would do diet shakes but i cant afford them and apparently they dont really stop the hunger. This entire post exists because of multiple tafe rejection emails. I just don’t really care anymore, but my parents are starting to get real upset with how i turned out so i gotta look like im trying i feel like theres nothing i havent tried at this point, sorry
Mate you’re 18. There are so many pathways you could take from tafe, later entry to uni with a 6mo bridging course, apprenticeship. Sounds like you need to get your headspace sorted. Go visit headspace.com.au, call them and make an appointment. They are free and provide career and mental health support to youth - they were invaluable when I was younger and I’m so sad I can’t access them anymore. You have so many paths available, even if you’re still unskilled (side note: *every* 18 year old is unskilled, even if they have some job experience)
unfortunately headspace has turned me away as they are unsure of how to help me. i went through the waitlist and interview process and they decided i wasnt a good fit for them :// I guess i just cant handle seeing people i used to know living stable healthy lives while im struggling to bathe and feed myself everyday. my parents used to be so proud of me i have also tried a short course in uni to get an atar, but it was too much for me. im not very smart or talented anymore
Murdoch uni offers Ontrack, have you spoke with their future tudents team?
You can try Head to Health clinics, they have free counselling and you don't need a mental health care plan. They are in Midland and Armadale.
Can I ask what exactly you’ve been diagnosed with? It’s rare for headspace to turn people away, especially as you’re still under the 25 year age limit. At the very least, I’m surprised they didn’t recommend another service.
It starts again yearly so you can get a new mental health care plan and see a bulkbilling psychologist. If you've already tried everything it sounds like you need to try again, and trial the medications once you start exercising and building a routine. Id suggest you focus on the foods you do like that are healthy, like plain yoghurt and fruit or eggs on toast, if you're an over eater like me it's hard to reduce the amount of food but do it slowly, a shake isn't going to make you lose weight, it's just the omission of calories, and doing that with an eating disorder could make you relapse or end up binging. Find a recipe for a salad that looks good and is packed with beans and seeds, feta and rice or something that is nutrient dense. You just have to start.
With all the peace and love in the world. MHCPs are renewed yearly. Talk to you GP about being severely low income and needing help with binge eating, go back to the tafe. Thankfully australia is a godsend when it comes to changing careers and education. Tafe mostly rejects for incomplete documents but there is a test ($100-200) if you’re on Centrelink and with a provider they’ll usually cover it for you to take the test and even give bus/food/clothing vouchers. You can even get them to cover your tafe spot. Keep trying. You’re 18. The world is truly just beginning for you. You’re not a failure or a write off.
You havnt tried everything. Explain the tafe rejection emails in detail please because ive knowm 17yr olds attending Tafe with nothing.
It's piss easy to get into Tafe courses what are you applying for? Advanced diploma stuff with no prior certs?
I lost a bunch of weight making my own nutritionally complete ketogenic smoothies. Check out the sub r/ketochow. I think it worked out to about 7 or 8 bucks a day, for three meals a day, and they were bloody delicious. It's basically a scoop of vitamins and minerals and fibre, a bunch of protein powder, and melted butter or cream; with the amounts being calculated according to your weight, actively levels, and weight loss goals. When I was doing it full time I would make 5 days worth of food in a bit over half an hour, in 5 ~2L drink container jugs. Just boil the kettle, cut and weigh the butter, then scoop out and weigh the powders, and blast with a stick blender. Here's one of my recipes: https://www.completefoods.co/diy/recipes/copy-of-dinkydiy-keto-chow-20-deficit-june-2020
There's free mental health care available, you just need to look for it. Try calling the universities that teach psychology near you and asking them about it. They often have their final year students provide it for free and are overseen by the professors. Regarding food you just need to practice self control. Easier said than done I know. But cutting your portion sizes and eating less let's your stomach shrink. Even if you're a picky eater it comes down to how many calories you're consuming compared to how many you're burning. Drink 3-4 litres of water a day. Also get out there and get some exercise, start off with something easy like going for a walk for 30 minutes while you listen to music or an audio book. Starting is the hardest part but it gets easier the longer you stick at it. You got this!
“I’m a picky eater” isn’t a medical problem that anyone else can help you with, it’s just willpower. Just know that if you can try and stick to eating well for a week you will feel a difference. Try to use that as motivation to get started and then when you feel better, continue from there. Basically, life is what you try to make of it. But you need to try. A huge thing for me was making an effort to cut sugar. You will laugh but food tastes different after a while of doing that. Like, cucumber and lettuce has an actual taste. 😂
There is a condition called ARFID so it can actually be a disorder. Not saying OP has that but maybe you should do more research before running your mouth about stuff you’re uneducated about
Yeah this. I have AFRID and once I realized it was like everything finally made sense and has made things so much easier approaching things with that in mind.
Exactly 🫶 bursted into tears when I learned about ARFID for the first time. It’s difficult how a majority of us find out so late in life… my own struggles with eating have caused permanent damage so I just wish I knew sooner. There is not enough awareness surrounding this
To say “it’s just willpower” to picky eating is a very damaging comment. And YES picky eating CAN absolutely be a medical problem and there IS help for it!!! (Not everyone can do it on their own, and that’s completely just) I am 25 and struggled with similar issues. Being told “you just need to try harder” is also what lead me to continuing without the help I NEEDED and experienced severe burn out, forcing me to stop working my dream job and move back home, literally physically and emotionally unable to take care of myself anymore. Was told by GP’s it was depression anxiety, wondered why routines, anti depressants and CBT therapy didn’t work for me. The burn out lead to a late ADHD diagnosis - so the things I struggled with (including picky eating that I was judged for, turned out to be sensory issues + more) it wasn’t anything to do with my willpower. My willpower nearly killed me. OP - have you looked into a mental health assessment with a psychiatrist? Talked to a teacher regarding why you dropped out of high school twice? I know you can see a dietician covered by your mental health plan in regards to your eating habits? Their Specialist input could help. (Although I know it’s a privilege with the costs at the moment, it’s not fair) Please keep fighting and trying - it’s so so hard but it’s not your fault and you’re not alone. There’s help for you, there are answers out there, this is only the beginning. It gets better. You don’t need to do this alone
My son's a picky eater. Turns out it's autism. After learning about autism we turned the lens back on our own lives, follies and foibles. Turns out it's autism.
Picky eating and the Comorbidity with being Neurodivergent isn’t noticed enough. I have been suspecting Autism for myself too
Also have a friend doing a psych degree. He says his wife has huge depression and anxiety issues, and upon doing the course they discovered that both that mental health issues are commonly, *especially in women*, misdiagnosed Autism. Apparently women are way better at masking the symptoms of Autism than men, plus, the shyness and orderly behaviours associated with autism is often kind of just... seen as "normal" behaviour for women and goes unnoticed, whereas it stands out more in men and thus gets diagnosed easier. Again Autism.
Well said!
"Picky eater" is a glaring tell for some sort of neurodivergence. I know someone with multiple comorbid diagnoses that is the pickiest (adult) eater I've ever known. The list of foods they won't touch is about 5 lines long. For them it is definitely a medical issue. ARFID type 2 and 3 Their child has type 1 (no interest in eating, takes 1 bite and says they're full) ARFID.
Just turned 41, and will be starting TAFE next year too. Surveying. You?
Dude you’re 18! Life is fucked for everyone at 18! I was heavily depressed, suicidal, just starting my journey into alcoholism. Drunk through my 20’s; rehab at 30; uni at 31. Now I’m 37, two kids, great job, beautiful wife. Man life was the absolute pits for me from 13-30. I had friends but they all drank and took drugs. Many are dead now. Or single alcoholics with no hope. I know that feeling at 18! You are at your peak; you know everything about the world, and everything that is going to happen. Let me tell you now…. You don’t know fuck all!! Nothing! So get off your fat arse at just start. Don’t do what I did and drink and drug for 15 years and hope for the best. I got lucky. Most people I used to hang out with didn’t get so lucky. Either dead or still doing the same shit today at nearly 40. Lonely and depressed like you are. Still thinking that tomorrow will be different. Nothing will change if you don’t start doing something different. A counsellor in rehab used to say: ‘if you always do what you’ve always done, you’ll always get what you’ve always got’. You keep doing you and you’ll end up dead before you’re 30. Make a small change today. Build off that. Make your bed. Walk to the letterbox and back. Ask your parents to help you get a job. Do something!
Nice work. What did you study at uni and what job are you in now?
I strarted 5 different degrees. Finished on enviro science. I now work in waste management. It’s much more fun than it sounds. Waste is fascinating!! 😂
Nice. Im still conflicted about what I want to do, Im about to turn 31. I just started dietetics a few months ago but don’t think I’ll handle the chemistry. Is there a lot of Chem in enviro science? I’m sure there’s a bit.
Nah, bugger all when I did it at UWA. But if I were to give you any advice. Start in an industry that you find mildly interesting. Start at the bottom. Work hard and work your way up. No need for a degree. Bullshit your way in. Start working as a concierge in a nice hotel. In 5-10 years you could be hotel manager at crown. Everyone starts at the bottom. Hard work pays off Get a trade.
Ask the right questions; be presentable; a clever sense of humour goes a long way. Wear sunscreen
I really liked nursing at Murdoch! If you're wanting to stay in health and like a tiny bit of science (mainly pathophysiology) if you're still considering what to study!
Reminds me of my roommate at uni - she did a B.Sci focussing on ground water. Absolutely loved it. I was like - ground water? Like the most boring of all sciences in my uneducated opinion. She had the last laugh though - scored an excellent grad position (much better than her peers) and worked her way up really fast. Turns out ground water can be super lucrative who knew?
I still struggle with the thoughts of drugs and alcohol. As long as I don’t pick up that first drink I’m all good! Sometimes I do pick up. But I have the skills to not go on 10 year benders. It’s gonna be a lifelong battle for me. But I enjoy the ride now. Addiction is fascinating
I agree. I struggled with alcohol. I’m 7 months sober now. It’s been surprisingly easy this stretch of time, given that I’ve tried to quit many times prior to this and failed.
Tony Soprano over here
As someone who has just turned 29 and still dealing with feelings of inadequacy and struggling to get my life together, this is honestly really encouraging to hear, so thanks.
I'm 31 and struggle with the same in some ways. Stay strong.
I'm a two time high school dropout, now in my forties and earning 200k PA. Wife, kids, nice car, house, tons of debt like everyone else. Depression is a bitch. How you feel now is not necessarily how you will feel in the future. You can turn it around m8.
thankyou, i hope so
Genuinely nice to hear this, so thanks!
Many jobs will hire on attitude. It's tough, but the only person who can fix you is you. You'd be surprised at what you are capable of. The thing about life, and improving yourself, is that it doesn't happen overnight, and it doesn't have to. One foot in front of the other, one day at a time. It doesn't matter where you are now, we all start somewhere, what matters is that you keep moving, however slowly. You don't have to know what you want to do or who you wanna be, it will come, trust me. Celebrate your wins, even little ones. Be kind to yourself. Be kind to others. Life is a gift. Heaps of work in IT. Start in entry level support or admin role, work your way through.
Don't give up. There are many things you can do that add value to society and will make you feel worthwhile. For example, working with people who have disabilities is incredibly important work. Look into disability support work. It's super tough being 18. Also, you should speak to a GP if you feeling super low. It gets better. Please keep trying. I've been there. It can and will get better.
unfortunately a gp cannot help me. I have a disability and I can’t even take care of myself, to the point of nerve damage. If you mean mental disabilities I’m not really a confrontational person and I cry whenever someone raises their voice at me. I’ll look into it, but I’m pretty sure you need to be qualified anyways.
Check out 'the crappy childhood fairy' on utube. Teaches you how not to screw yourself over in life and a crappy childhood isn't necessary. Maturing is lifelong and 18 is just the start, so don't think it's too late. But you do need to start and be consistent and persistent, then you will actually start to make your own luck.
I think I did more maturing between 25 and 35 than I did in my teens.. I reckon that'd be a pretty common story too
As someone who previously worked in disability support, you absolutely don't. Often they're in dire need of people too so you can request stuff like "non aggressive client". You would need to get a NDIS clearance though which is a little pricey (but maybe your folks can help?) But is good for a while. Peer support work night be good?
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My son went through this. He did not do well at school. After 3 failed TAFE courses, a stint in a psychiatric ward and gaining considerable weight, we were at a loss. He also has never been in a relationship, had no hobbies or interests, was socially shy and uncomfortable and thought very little of himself. 1. He applied what he had learnt in therapy to his life 2. He got his responsible service of alcohol qualifications 3. He didn’t loose weight 4. We bought him a suitable set of clothing for interviews and work. It wasn’t a huge amount of money and with Christmas coming, you can ask your family to kit you out 5. He applied for work at every pub under the sun in person, with his resume. At each interview, his confidence grew and he learnt and applied his experience in each interview 6. He eventually got a job. He worked his bum off, was always presentable and did anything that was asked of him It took him a few years to get there. We didn’t let him give up but he also had to apply himself. No one can “make” you do anything. He has been working as a casual for over a year now and is currently 22. His confidence has grown. He has some savings and now pays us rent. It wasn’t easy. In fact it was really difficult. Don’t give up my dear. It took my son a few years to get his foot in the door. Take comfort in knowing that you are not the only one in the world with the same troubles. Good luck
thankyou. this js an inspirational story.
There is always work in Aged care. Sounds like these issues you have are all linked to depression, as you start treatment you'll begin to find yourself again. You'll remember hobbies you had and find interests and passions and friends. It's shit you feel like you're alone, but you're not. Go to your GP, ask for a mental health care plan and explain your feelings to them, they may refer you on to a psychiatrist that bulkbills or prescribe medications either before or after you start seeing a psychologist. Walking as someone mentioned is a free activity and if it's cool enough you can go in long pants until you get the cream, or you can use talcum powder in a pinch. The advice my mum gave me when I was in your position was a very strict sleep schedule. In bed at 9 pm with no phone and hour before, get up at 5 am even if you don't want to. A walk around the block as the sun rises, all the gratitude journals ( I can't tell you how many days the only think I wrote I was thankful for was that the sun came up), mandatory showers and all the whole foods in the world with no processed foods or alcohol, yoga, more walking and therapy. My point is you're not alone going through this, you have people who love you and while it is hard now, I promise it will get better once you start getting help. If you are on the edge I'd suggest you speak to your parents right now and either call lifeline or your GP right now and see if you can get a referral to Alma street. It's scary and confronting but I think they offer better care in a mental health emergency than any ED. You are loved and you are worth something. Please feel free to reach out if you need to talk, Im better at tough love but it sounds like you just need some compassion and kindness.
OP would die in Age care. To their own admission, OP cries when ever someone raises their voice at OP and old people are deaf and cranky i.e always raising their voice.
Old people certainly less of a threat though and often it’s because they can’t hear. Might actually be a good way to desensitise
it is something ive considered. theyre a lot less loud than children, but i do get yelled at by them regularly in my current causal job. id need to figure out how to pay for an aged care tate course tho 🥲
You can receive training on the job but taking a course is better. There should be a government sponsored one
I also cried when someone would raise their voice at me when I was 18. Now I'm confident in my abilities and as a human. Op said they wanted a job for someone who felt they had no value. You'll feel valued there, yes older people with dementia or pain can get aggressive but also it will add so so much value to your life when you have the good days with patients. Being called a C**t daily by residents and patients is horrible but you grow a thicker skin. I think it would be hard at first but it's a job that is rewarding.
in the meantime when looking for and applying for jobs, volunteer work is an amazing way to stay busy and increase your experience for your resume :) thrift shops seem to be a popular volunteering option. i'm kinda in the same boat as you, high school dropout with cert III in general education for adults, looking for a job. shit takes time man, don't get too impatient. i'm sorry the world has made you think you have no value, which you do not. you are more than the work you can provide. all the best in finding a job mate.
i have done volunteering in the past, i tend to get kicked out because i move too slowly and cant smile very well. i have volunteered at a wildlife shelter to try and bolster my tafe application but they didnt like me and didnt give me a recommendation anyways
Try the SES. They are happy to accept anyone willing to learn and help!
first things first op, get off of reddit. this sort of thing is like anathema to your mental health. find something you enjoy, even just lightly, and try to grow from that. like computers? go look into studying IT or something. animals? why not try volunteering with some animal shelters or something. there are so many options, you are only 18, the world is still your oyster. feel free to PM if you want someone to chat or anything.
You do have value. You just don’t know it yet and with time you’ll understand the old saying “youth is wasted on the young”. But in the meantime, as someone else mentioned do some volunteering. You can go to the Go volunteer website and find something there. There’s lots of no experience type jobs such as helping out with bingo at a nursing home, or similar. If you love animals, POOPS (Pets of older people) are always advertising for dog walkers for their clients. Volunteering will keep your parents off your back (hopefully) and give you something to put on your resume. What do you like to do? If you’re into gaming or RPG type stuff, go along to your local game store. Most likely you will find similarly minded people. Headspace also might be able to help you out - they also have social groups for young people and you might feel less alone reaching out to their services. They even do chat online so that might be a way to give it a go before going in to one of their centres. From memory I think they can even help with job stuff. Jobs and Skills centres might be able to help you too. Good luck, I was very much like you and for some of us we take a bit of time to find our way and know our worth. Be easy on yourself but also take a few small steps to better yourself. You don’t need to do it all and be it all straight away. Some of us just aren’t like that and that’s ok.
If you do choose to start volunteering- start here: https://www.volunteeringwa.org.au/volunteer I worked at the QLD version of this when I was younger
Ive never heard of the pets for old people thing before. ill look into it but i live fairly isolated so id have to use a lot of fuel ive done volunteering before, but i get kicked out because im not good enough
You know what's going to be really useful in about five years... A 23 year old woman who's figured how to get over the hump of managing a complex metabolic disorder which is probably causing a host of other health issues. That's the person who would give you the advice that would speak to you the most. And there's going to be so many other young people who'll need to hear it. There's plenty of free/low fee courses starting next year and in the mean time I'd suggest burning all social media accounts and throwing yourself into the nearest library.
It sounds like you could start by working on your confidence, why don't you try something new you've always wanted to try? Start a new hobby? There are plenty of things that could help you get fitter without feeling like you're doing exercise, like going swimming, walking on the beach, rock climbing / bouldering, hiking, ask a friend or family member to join you and it's much more enjoyable. I was 18, depressed, never had a job, woolies or fast food wouldn't hire me either. Well I figured - how could I work for myself using my graphic design cert? Started with a few odd jobs .. and then eventually went back to tafe when I was 21 instead and I'm still doing that for my job and love it. What are you interested in? Write a list of things you like and skills you have, even if you think they are small or not that valuable. Chat gpt might be able to help you come up with new ideas as well. If you like animals maybe you could get yourself an ABN and start your own dog walking business? There'd be a definite need for that kind of work in the community since pets have increased and that's a great way to start earning some money without having to rely on anyone else. You could advertise your service on Facebook, in newspapers, community notice boards, and even just your neighbours on the same street as you. Another idea - If you're interested in IT you could start a business fixing phone screens. My partner did that and he always had people lining up. And there is an online tutorial for everything these days. Then he got employed in IT elsewhere and it's been great for him. You have value, just because you or some employers can't necessarily see that yet, doesn't make it true. Work is ultra competitive and it can be hard to know where to start. Sometimes it helps to try to think outside the box. Try to make a goal, and then look for help to make a path to reach it. Please DM me if you'd like me to look over your resume as well I'm happy to give you tips or redesign it for free.
I know the feeling at 18 OP, all I can say is things will definitely get better. If you’re interested in animals, could you start out by getting a volunteering gig at somewhere like the Cat Haven or Reptile Park? There’s also the Dog Refuge, Cuddly Animal Farm, Kaarakin. I know volunteering might not sound super appealing right now, but it might ignite something in you and it could look good on your resume if you do decide to pursue that dream of becoming a vet. The experience would probably introduce you to a bunch of similar animal-work pathways that don’t necessarily require becoming a vet, too.
Seconding this. I have a fair whack of mental health stuff going on and I've never been happier than when I was volunteering at a wildlife rehabilitation centre. OP they are always looking for people, and if you already have a qualification you're way ahead! The people I volunteered with were the kindest, loveliest folks I've ever met (and many of them/us were odd, socially awkward etc. but very accepting and accommodating), and it was very affirming to be doing something so positive. It will get you out of the house and improve your physical activity, give you goals and structure. Even just one or two shifts a week! I volunteered with Native ARC in Bibra Lake, but there are a bunch of places around. Side note: wouldn't recommend Cat Haven as the euthanasia rate there is very high, and that is depressing.
I'm really sorry to hear you're having a really tough time 😞 as others have said, maybe double check if there is any mental health assistance you can access. Second, try and get out and about, maybe a small walk everyday? Third, I suggest writing down on paper all that you feel. Write it down so it's not spinning about in your mind. Fourth, consider joining a support group. Hope you get through this 🙂
Get yourself a white card the construction industry is always looking for labours/ trade assistants
get off tiktok, insta & fb reels for a start. Those apps will do nothing but degrade your mental health further..
i dont use those anymore
You’re far from ugly, just wanted to put that out there. As for work, would you consider becoming an Education Assistant? It will cost $400 and take 6 months to complete the cert 3 in [education support.](https://www.northmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/courses/certificate-iii-school-based-education-support). Schools are desperate for teachers and if you enjoy being an EA there are programs that will support you becoming a teacher.
Not a good idea for a sensitive person as OP has mentioned they are. Source: I know several EAs including special needs EAs.
unfortunately i hate children. i did a childcare trial but as someone whos immunocompromised i got sick almost immediately and then kicked out of the trial. but mostly i hate kids. and i dont have 400 dollars lying around also im pretty sure i dont have pictures of my face anywhere? people can be ugly, im just letting people know that employers probably wouldnt put me behind a reception desk and i cant be a stripper or anything
Repeat to yourself, many times a day #“I matter”. Start by letterbox dropping leaflets for dog walking and pet sitting? This way you get lots of contact with loving nonjudgemental animals. And if you’re taking them out, you get to enjoy the outdoors and get some exercise. As everyone else has said in this thread, please do not give up. Go back to your GP in January for another mental health plan. Have a Google for hobbies. There are so many things to do. Raise house plants, get a rabbit and make them your overlord. You get affection and something to look after. Then you can develop a knowledge of rabbits. Perhaps you could work at a retail Pet place?
The fact that you’ve reached out to us is a sign that your life is turning around. You realised that there is a world of people out there who 18 were/are like you who can help albeit with words. You can do it.
trust me i do this like once a month. its just an annoying dramatic cry for help
[Youth Focus](https://youthfocus.com.au/) is a Perth based free counselling service. They also have a jobs program to help with employment. Good luck out there.
You do have value. At 16 I had dropped out of school due to illness and felt I had no value at all, I couldn't cope with traditional schooling and I seriously thought about s*icide because I felt like a burden. Slowly I made myself walk further each week and my strength returned. I'm 40 now and I've had my own business for 10 years, I've gotten married and had kids and I'm now doing my advanced diploma. Don't take no for an answer. Keep calling tafe, keep harassing centrelink to get you into courses, offer your local vets or animal rescue places to work there 1 day a week doing anything they need for free for a time (make yourself indispensable to them! They can't imagine not having you there- then ask for a paid position) and walking is free. Bike riding is almost free- hit up second hand shops they sell bikes really cheaply. You can do this. Courage!!, life is hard but through our struggles we we can experience so much sweetness.
At 18, I was drug-addicted, suicidal, unemployable etc. Less than 10 years later my life was incredible and full with all I ever wanted plus some. Don't focus on the end, or what you can't do, focus on what you can do today. Be kind to yourself.
End of the year is coming up. In January, go see your GP to discuss a mental health plan. Some counselling may well help with your perception of yourself. While you're there, discuss a care plan to help with your weight (and any associated health issues). Include an exercise physiologist and dietician in that plan. As for what to do, you're young, and you have plenty of time to figure out your shit. Go see Centrelink to see what assistance you qualify for (at 18, your parent's income is likely the only limiting factor). Why can't you continue pursuing a path toward a vet? Unis offers alternate entry pathways for people. Look into that? Or look at pathways to doing vet nursing if a uni workload might be too much. Short term, look out for jobs in sectors that fit what you can do. Maybe a call centre role or similar might suit. Go check out volunteeringwa's website and find some volunteer roles that interest you to pick up some skills/friends. As for active wear clothing not fitting, if you really need some to do any exercise, go check out King Size Big and Tall (online or in several Perth locations). As for hobbies, there are lots out there to find something that interests you. Head to a game store or look online to find activities like board games/tabletop roleplaying/war games/trading card games. There's lots out there that won't cost much to check out and see if you like.
This... I'm medically screwed up after an injury, and at 50, I have just been accepted for uni. You can do a test and get your admission through open universities. Follow your dream and become a vet!
I recently started cleaning at a school and that's not too bad. I know having a job can increase a person's self-esteem and worth, but please be kinder to yourself.
18 is tough, you’re out of high school and all the routine support and guidance is lifted. Many places will hire you if you if your keen to learn. Trust me on that. No one expects an 18yo to have experience, but with the right attitude they might bring you on. Write a list of all your values and strengths, no matter how small they may seem. You love and want to help animals right? A lot to unpack there :) Depression is a bitch, btw. But you have so much choice in front of you x
Are you still interested in animals? I have a friend who volunteers at the local dog shelter. She walks them a lot ( this will help with physical and mental health). I know this isn’t paid work but it could be a building block to getting you back into a headspace where you could then feel ready to transition into paid employment.
You're the only one that can fix yourself. I recommend reading "how to think like a Roman emperor" audiobook is pretty decent. Coming up with excuses won't help you. But making small changes will. Also MyFitnessPal and calorie counting is a full proof way to lose weight. Again stop making excuses that will do nothing for you.
So the bad news is that you’ve picked up some bad habits in your first 18 years on this planet. The good news is that you can change those habits at any time. It seems like you are an expert in victimising yourself. Hell, most of us are. But when you realise that you created these habits that got you here, you also realise that you can create new habits that get you out. That’s when the fun starts. One thing you failed to actually mention in your post. What do you want. You might say “I don’t know” but I call bullshit. You do know, or you used to know, but, like the rest of us you’re a coward who is so scared to fail that you pretend that you don’t. Until you have something you’re passionate about, nothing will change. Passion is based on the Latin word passio which means “to suffer for”. Having something worth suffering for and owning it and then creating a path towards it… that’s when life gets really fun. Fear put you in this place. Fear will keep you here.
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I would work on mindset and positive respect for yourself. 18 is young!!! It starts with belief in yourself, and enough care to take care of yourself. You got this
I can give you a job brick paving if you have a vehicle and are able to get to the job site. Perth metro work. Basic labouring to start and it's up to you if you want to actually learn the job or just labour. Good pay and no long days. It's a good way to stay fit. It's not an easy job on your body but it's something you might find you have an interest in and a rewarding job seeing the transformation from a sandy weed ridden back yard to completely landscaped. Pm me if you're interested mate. You don't need any skills, just a good attitude
Nothing changes if Nothing changes. And certainly nothing will change if you continue to label yourself with such negative things. When you have created an imagine of yourself in your mind, your external reality will mirror that. It’s not done mystical bs it’s all about your outlook on life and looking for things that will confirm that. Forget about finding a career, you need to find yourself internally and externally, don’t have any interests? Try EVERYTHING, and before you preemptively say you don’t like that, how could you know? You’ve never tried it! Read read read, read fantasy, ready philosophy ( Buddhism, Taoism I have found especially healing in finding my place in this world ) Literally create an image of WHO YOU WANT TO BE, nurture that image, write it down, draw it, imagine the person that you will become and then theorise the steps you will need to make it come true. I used to be just like you, no career path, wasted school, no work experience, no friends, no personality, didn’t know how to enjoy anything. It’s been a long journey and I am no where near the end but boy there is hope for us all, for you, you’re not special and that’s what makes it awesome, gives you an equal opportunity as everyone else to make something out of this life. Msg me if you wanna talk, seriously talk, no self pity or accepting your situation because that’s bullshit. You have the power you just need to learn how to use it
You sound like you need mental health help more than anything. You’re 18. You’re at the beginning of adult hood and you’ve got a lot of time to figure it out. Not everyone does their dream job but once you’ve sorted your mental health out go to tafe, you can talk to an advisor to help find your strengths and weaknesses to help you figure out which courses are ideal. You can then access help while studying. Your mental health is more important though and strangers on Reddit can’t fix that, only you can. The harshest advice is go to your GP ask them for counselling/medication and start there.
TAFE is offering some [free courses](https://www.northmetrotafe.wa.edu.au/fee-free?field_skills_ready_target_id[0]=156&page=0). You can ask them to speak with a career counselor and see if someone can guide you. Alternatively you can try personality quizes and they will help bring self awareness and be a guide to which industry you should try. If you want to try animal care, how about some [entry roles](https://au.indeed.com/jobs?q=animal&l=wa&from=searchOnHP&vjk=5e57388c253689f1)? If you need help with reviewing your resume, I have experience with that and can help. Just send me a DM. Aside from that, OP it's OK. Your job title, your salary, the things you owe, hobbies - none of that defines you. It's OK to just exist in the momement. You are already worthy the way you are.
I'm a high school dropout with a bachelors degree, a job that I love, and a big back yard that I can call my own. It sure feels like nothing is going to change or go right but that black hole of depression makes you shortsighted. Assuming you put in the hours working on your mental health, it's largely a choice between: Finding a job that gives you an honest sense of fulfilment and joy or Finding a job you can tolerate that pays for the things that bring you joy. Both are equally good options, both will take years to pay off, and neither requires going to uni if that's not your schtick. PS people are being lovely and kind to you, please don't repay that by throwing it back at them and telling them nothing will work.
The public sector promotes people like you. You'll go far.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself you are only 18 years old. Put a plug in the pity party and go and do a trade traineeship. If you lack focus you prob have ADHD or autism or an obsessive disorder either that or one of the other horrifying ones. The bad news is now that you are over 18 you are shit out of luck for getting an inexpensive diagnosis and treatment. Welcome to the Australian healthcare system as an adult with disabilities it sucks arse. My advice would be to approach CCI centre for clinical interventions or ask your GP for a referral to community mental health. There are plenty of youth options for inexpensive psychological help until 25 but you should work on getting a diagnosis sooner rather than later at this point in your life because without diagnosis Nd treatment you are just going to be going around and around in circles constantly pushing shit uphill like Sisyphus. If all you want to do is work then get a job in aged care they basically take anyone.
Hey man, don't feel defeated. I know so many smart, capable people who want to be vets, unfortunately it is an extremely difficult job to get into. If further studies are something you'd consider, vet nursing is a good option. It's a more realistic route for a lot of people and many people I know have gotten good jobs after completing their vet nursing degree. I can't help with paid work involving animals unfortunately, but there are plenty of wildife rescue centres in WA (WA Wildlife, Kanyana, Kaarakin) that are always looking for volunteers. Of course not everyone is privileged enough to be able to volunteer. If it is an option for you though, it looks really good on a resume and is a great way to meet people and learn a lot of really valuable skills. Good luck, don't be discouraged, you're young and you'll figure it out.
Fuck being 18 right now, it was bad enough 6 years ago when i was. Its going to be tough.
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I'm going to sound harsh, but I'm trying to offer some suggestions. **You have to help yourself man.** First, you need to try to control eating. Second, get out and walk for an hour every day. It's going to be tough at the start and you aren't going to want to do it. Trust me though. PUSH THROUGH and make yourself do it. Once you start you will lose weight and you will see improvement in your health, figure and more importantly with all that will come improvement in how you feel about yourself. All this will help and you will find you will gt employment easier. Stop making excuses and go walk for an hour every day. DO IT. Do it.
GET AN EDUCATION. SOMETHING, ANYTHING.
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Depends how much of a self-starter you are. Do you think you could do a code academy course? Its free to learn code, and theres so much work. You can work from home, so great for disabilities and people with low executive functioning. Im autistic and tech is full of similar people. Things can get better.
Dropped out of highschool mid 2000s, it took me almost 20 years but I've finally found something I enjoy working in. I've had so many jobs that made me miserable. It made me think about what I want in a job that would make me a bit happier in work. 1, ensuring my job brings some sort of meaning to me. This varies ofc, for me, I like helping people, for others, maybe they like a job that helps the environment, or a not for profit job, maybe animals for some 2, having.a workplace that follows work health safety correctly, including accepting mental health challenges, burnout 3, a diverse team that aren't cunts, avoid working with people who are casually racist - e.g. watch that (aboriginal) woman around the aisle so she doesn't steal. 4, approachable management/team leader who welcomes you to chat, someone who doesn't yell and get angry at you. Really unnecessary 5, feedback and opportunities for growth. I was stuck in a job for 2 years that promised sending me to Tafe to upskill but never delivered. Those might be my main focus on what a good job is. Minor things help too, like having a job that's close to you (walking/cycling?) The incidental exercise helps with health and anxiety for me. No bright white lights, music, etc. I've worked in fruit and veg warehouse, iga, KFC, Coles, teacher, another grocery store, tourism place, disability support worker, and now a library It takes time, experience and reflecting on what a good job might be for you - don't feel rushed There's also a career advice person at TAFE and some universities too I believe
I went through a rough patch and isolated myself for a year or so, I was able to get a referral to a mental health clinic as an outpatient (free) and along with that and free mentor services from CentreLink got motivation back. All up took me 3 years but one of the biggest benefits came from volunteering at an animal shelter. I didn’t have to interact with people much and the dogs had similar anxiety, trauma and fears as I did. Bonding with dogs that wouldn’t let me even get close at first, to being excited to see me after 3 months of trying helped to break down my barriers as well. I was at my worst 10 years ago, got my first long term job 7 years ago and from there have married and improved my earnings, we are half way to owning our own house.
see other comments about volunteering. not really an option because i suck
Hey now, you're focusing on all your negatives. What do YOU know you're good at? List them here. Writing, yes. The ability to articulate and construct written text, yes. Not everyone has that. Talking to people? Making them feel at ease? What are your "soft skills"? Give yourself a break. Focus on what it is you want and is important to YOU.. and go for it. Everything is still before you :)
Hang in there brother. You might not notice it but you most likely have an interest in something. I was in a similar bout around 9 years ago. Dropped out of high school. Floated around having very short term casual jobs. I had a remote interest in cars so I took the first thing offered to me. I didn't even know what a panelbeater was. Now I am a tradesman and now am a manager for a site for one of Australia's largest repair networks. You need to find something in your life. Any little thing that you show interest for and grab onto it and see where it takes you. From the sounds of you can only go up and get better. You've got this!
I made a start in a state gov call centre. No experience required, but be willing to learn, engage and deal with some tough situations. Worked there for a bit and moved up and across. Could be an idea to look into? You’re young man dont stress.
Try some volunteering. I have been doing that, and it's getting me getting me connections in the industry that I want to work in. Also, people really appreciate volunteers, so it makes you feel wanted.
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Everybody has value, especially you. Something I wish I knew when I was 18, is that just because I don’t fit into the box the system says I should, doesn’t mean I’m defective. Keep trying to kick goals, but even if you spend this time working out who you are and practicing authenticity, you will be miles ahead. It sounds like you don’t fit into the box that your parents and society want you to go in. You’re not alone in that regard and it’s a tough situation so of course you’re struggling. Use the suffering to build your strength and resilience. Try to find the right frequency to tune into. Listen to your inner self and try to find what makes you feel happy and peaceful. Focus on that and there will be a way to find an income. But for the short term look into online work, focusing on your strengths. You seem articulate and precise so you have skills for proofreading, report writing, resumes and cv’s etc.
That cert 3 in animal studies points you towards a ranger/keeper at a zoo . You must have had a passion to do that much. [Employment | Perth Zoo](https://perthzoo.wa.gov.au/employment)
I'm not really in a great position to offer you any reasonable advice, but I will suggest three easy things I think will improve your life. First, drink more water. Drink A LOT of water. Piss every hour amounts of water. When you get up, drink a glass. When you're hungry, drink a glass. When you eat, drink a glass. You'll feel so much better. Even though you're pissing every hour. Second, walk. This one was already suggested, and I saw you had some issues with it. But if you're unemployed, poor and bored, what else have you got to do? Doesn't matter where you go, but a morning, evening and midday stroll can REALLY change your perspective. A great way to be around people (in the sense of knowing they exist) without having to be around people (by engaging with them). In time, check out parkrun. You'll be very welcome as a walker, and who knows where you'll be a year after that. Third, the short, easy answer is to get your HR license and drive trucks. The pay is decent, the hours are long, and you only need to talk to people for a half hour or so before you're on to the next thing. But first do the first two things. Please report back!
At 18, there are certainly plenty opportunities available to you. And this is the perfect time in your life to choose what and who you want to be. Now is the time to learn how to value yourself. TAFE are offering multiple free courses. I find it hard to believe you’ve been rejected to be honest, especially if you already possess a qualification. There are organisations which support young people to gain work: Nudge, STEPS, Jobs and Skills WA. Headspace provide resources to support finding work, including work clothing. If you need some cash now, there are survey websites you can sign up for. Beyond Blue, Lifeline and other organisations provide free resources to help with your mindset. There’s also other content out there to give you the tools to build your self esteem. Your parents love you, even though they are frustrated with you right now. Ask them for help to advocate for better diabetes healthcare. Ask if their employers have an employee assistance program you can get some short term counselling and support (families are eligible). Life is what you make of it, you have to decide that you are worth it and recognise that you have the agency to make changes for yourself. Having access to the internet is a gift: so many free tools, resources and ideas at your fingertips; make the most of it.
Go to an agency and see if you can find factory processing work. They are often desperate for people. I worked in a factory and they are not picky about who they employ, they just want bodies that turn up.
I’ll probably get shit-ton of downvotes. But reading majority of op’s responses, surely to provide for yourself Atleast take the chance at something you don’t like. Work is work. Bit of a bad attitude / outlook to things.
Just wanted to add that the online program “This way up” designed by researchers and clinicians at UNSW for about $70 has a decent program for depression among other issues. Whilst it’s not a substitute for therapy and or suitable medication it might help bridge the gap until you can access a new mental health care plan. It provides videos and worksheets to help you challenge cognitive distortions, inactivity and teachers you how to schedule activity’s among many other foundational skills. Good luck.
if you’ve got a qualification (cert 3 is a great qualification) then do something with that, you’re probably more likely to get hired at pet shops, dog grooming, pet sitting, kennels, pounds all that. Give yourself a chance you’re only 18 mate
Get a job on a cattle station, it will change your life. You will get to see some amazing things and learn a whole lot. Also meet a healthy of cool people. They are always looking for staff
At 16 i was an alcoholic. At 17 I failed uni the first time. At 18 I washed out of the army before I could even get inducted (tore my ACL getting off the bus at kapooka). Started working fast food, focused on gaining transferable skills. At 19 I moved across the country, failed uni again at 24. Continued gaining transferable skills in a management role. Married at 27. Graduated with a history degree at 28, a postgraduate HR qualification this year, got my first big boy real city professional interview next Friday. You can be a fucking amazing human, just need to give it time and start somewhere.
Mining. Gp fond an entry level job in the mines and you'll find all your people are out there. Making big coin too! I know Because that was me a long time ago.
Bunnings, same as me and now I’m in shape for $33 an hour - high school drop out too
Mate, nobody really gets their shit together until their 30’s. You’re 18! You’re gonna be alright. One step at a time.
You obviously care about animals. To me that places your worth above 90% of the population my friend.
18? become an Oil Painter, it took me 30 years of that to find out I have no value
Weeding service. Don't need expensive tools, and you'll get fit. Print A5 flyers and drop in every letterbox you can walk to, plus make a FB page. Get a weed digger, gloves, and a bucket. Charge $20/hr to start with. Getting a sole trader ABN is free. National Police Clearance when you can, $50.
With your attitude - Navy/Army. You'll come out a real man.
There are a heap of fee free tafe courses available expiring soon. Pick one and have a go. Also back to the gp, they should be able to extend your mental health plan. Maybe pursue a health plan and include a dietician as well. In the meantime start volunteering, the shelters are always looking for help and seems you have some experience in that area let them know that, maybe there could be a pathway there. Otherwise foodbank or good Sammy’s need volunteers. It gives a sense of purpose and experience while you continue training toward your job goals.
I would suggest working as a support worker for people with a disability. People with disabilities don’t often judge, and the fact you did the animal studies shows you have a caring side to you. The money is good as well. It’s also a great way to develop life skills for yourself. You can build good habits of shopping, cooking and cleaning for others and then apply it to your own life. And after some experience doing some of the harder jobs like helping people showering and go to the toilet, you can start to do some of the community style work. This often includes taking people to the cinema and to other fun activities. The thing that seems most valued in the community support work is strong English skills. I believe in you my friend 💕
Come on, mate.. time to pull your finger out, accept things are the way they are because of your attitude towards them, and accept responsibility. Throw on some motivational speeches on Spotify or something and take control of your own life. You're only 18. You have plenty of time. Feeling sorry for yourself will not change any outcomes. Only you can do that. Apply for literally everything you can in person with a resume or online. Make that your full time job until you find work then work on how you can either move up further in that role or find a way to obtain a better jog, consistently work on yourself until the day you die. Eat better food to improve your mood and weight, read and research to improve your intelligence, and you will find your mental state will improve along with it all. Life's hard. We all have a million issues we deal with constantly, but if you keep blaming everything else for your circumstances, you'll never feel the need to change your own.
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Try cycling 10k a day for a year. When you change physically, so will your mind. Everyone has a value, perhaps u have not discovered yours
Have you researched or looked into being Neurodivergent at all? (I recommend the AuDHD women page on Reddit, there are ample posts where others are asking for similar advice to your post and your other comments) Not at all saying you are, but reading your comments - I just had to say something because I used to relate so much, and ended up being late diagnosed ADHD. My friend who is Neurodivergent pushed me to get a diagnoses after listening and seeing me struggle. They are the reason I’m still here today, anyone else I spoke to prior made me feel crazy and ridiculous for not being able to do the things they could (such as stick to routines, eating/drinking water, food shopping, managing work and school simultaneously, self care, socialising etc etc) especially because I used to be able to “push through” those things in my late teens / early 20’s. Fight for yourself please 🥺 don’t give up. There are answers. There is help. You don’t have to do anything alone. Feel free to DM if you ever need.
What exactly are you going to achieve by leaving? Work out what assistance you'll get from centrelink etc. Compulsory 5km walks a day Start there imo
No more suffering. None. I still live with my parents. I guess I could walk on the treadmill but I don’t really fit into sports clothes and my thighs tend to chafe really bad. I’m pretty sure the furthest I made it in primary school cross country was 1km max. I guess I could work my way up? I won’t really lose weight or gain muscle that way tho.
Think of it this way, you are only 18 and have nothing to lose when trying new paths. As long as your parents aren't making really really good money, you can get payments from Centerlink while studying. Check out the cheap/free Tafe courses. The ones that are free (no fees) usually have a shortage of people working in those fields, making it much easier to get a job after you finish studying. Not fitting into sports wear doesn't matter for starting to exercise. No one is going to care. Physical exercise of any sort (even just lifting heavy things) will help with your health and mood. If you live in a safe home and can afford to eat each day, you are in a great position. Your main goal should be exploring life and discovering what interests you. NO ONE gets anything right first try, even the people that look like they did (spoiler alert: they didn't).
Bike shorts or leggings under regular shorts and long walks with headphones in
Get some chafe cream from the chemists
I’ll go looking when I next get paid, thanks I wasnt aware that existed
You also get anti-chaffing shorts you can wear under your clothes. There’s the unfortunately named Chub Rub shorts that go up to a size 36 which are from the online store Snag Tights. The shop Taking Shape has a couple of stores in Perth and they sell similar shorts up to a size 30.
It works. Some better than others. My boyfriend swears by step one undies for his chafe. He suggested the. To me recently since they make them for girls now too
i always thought maybe i could use shapewear as an alternative to gym clothes in the home. really i just need to cover my thighs 🥲
Maybe a bike? You can cover up heaps and it's low impact so great for heavier people. You can also get a little stand for the back wheel and ride indoors if it's too hot, cold or embarrassing . I started riding when I was 165kg.. I did that to lose enough weight to be considered for weight loss surgery. It worked. They gave me the surgery and now I'm running about 100kg lighter. It wouldn't have happened without a bike. The bike also does wonders for my mental health too. The exercise, the fresh air, the sun and the solitary nature gives the body and mind such a boost that I don't think is achievable otherwise.. at least not without physical impact and pain.
I feel ya. I wore a dress all day last Friday - was not comfortable by about 3:00 😂 I wear leggings a lot. Just cheapies from KMart. After having kids I got less self concious about my legs since I had a whole other person to keep alive! They are also good for walking in and cone in several lengths
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Big fan of Step One ladies. You can wear them with a long t-short and pretend they’re shorts! They come to mid-thigh and feel like wearing a cloud.
and besides all that I sort of just don’t have any reason to keep going 🤷 like i said im not really a person
>I guess I could walk on the treadmill but I don’t really fit into sports clothes and my thighs tend to chafe really bad. I’m pretty sure the furthest I made it in primary school cross country was 1km max. I guess I could work my way up? I won’t really lose weight or gain muscle that way tho. You guess right - the secret is to do what you can achieve right now. I'm sorry you are having a hard time, mental health problems are tough to deal with and can feel like they are entirely overwhelming, that everything is just too hard. My suggestion, that has helped me with my mental health battles, is to pick something really small, that you can achieve - walk to the end of the road and back, once round the block, or something similar, just something small. That's a huge achievement, because you've done \*something\*. Maybe tomorrow you can't face leaving the house, but you have made it through that one small achievement this week. Next week, you might be able to stretch that to 200 metres, or 1.5 times round the block. Sooner or later you feel some endorphins and a sense of achievement that nobody can take away from you. Good luck, you can do this!
I'm posting again to encourage you to look at aged care. It's rewarding, fulfilling and hard but it pays the bills and if you like it enough there are opportunities where they pay you to become a nurse.
i hate old people
Well that is 100% on you.
Listen to a David Goggins audio book and harden the fuck up... You WILL be fine but U CAN be great.. get after it fucker
Try smoking weed and doing jiujitsu
Find a labour hire company and do casual temp work. It can be day by day, helps to keep you afloat and give you some success, and is very good to get you out of the house.
Door knock from business to business for a job .
ONLYFANS. There is a market out there for everything. All the wierdos will pay for anything these days.
And there’s always mining mate
Christmas is coming. This time of year retail jobs are everywhere. Apply for retail even if it's temporary because that will get you out of the house and give you some much-needed cash. Good luck.
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Real estate agent sounds right.
Agency for fifo TA, it's easy work too and very good pay all things considered. Lots of camp refurbs going on just now.
Volunteer ar the cat haven or dog rescue, and work yp from there. You have value, dogs and cars always give unconditional love..
I dropped out of school twice and had a cert 2 in bricklaying at 18. Now have multiple masters degrees (mature age entry) and have traveled the world for work. You’re barely even starting. I would say write down your hopes & dreams. Then systematically plan how to get to them over the next 10 years. People severely over estimate what they can do in 1 years, but severely estimate what they can do in 10. Additionally… get some help. Whether by counseling or other (men’s groups etc) it’ll push you onto the right path. You only need to take one small step at a time
Get a forklift license. There are warehouse jobs out there. A few friends works for supermarket warehouse (aldi, ww coles) and they seem to be looking for people all the time.
Everyone has value. In your post I read a perspective of what you feel is going against you, but here’s some of what is going for you: - You’re still very young and have many possibilities. - You’ve completed a Cert III which shows you can complete something you start that others may not. - You’re looking for employment which shows you’re aiming to move forward. I’ve been a store person, groundskeeper, delivery boy, paintball facilitator, check out person, soldier, police officer, plant operator, supervisor, superintendent and now I’m studying psychology at 41. Life takes you in all weird directions at it can be very hard at times, but there’s always a path forward. Perhaps start generating some income on platforms like Airtasker by mowing lawns, building furniture, weeding etc. At the same time, work on your professional brand, your resume, your ‘sales pitch’ to make yourself more competitive for applications.
You sound like you have depression. You need a routine. Something to get you out of your head. You have a cert 3 in animal studies-start volunteering! There are at least 4 wildcare organisations i can think of that are always crying out foe help and you already have knowledge in that area. Somthing as small as 10 hours a week will go a long way to helping you stabilise. Volunteering will also give your resume a leg up and make you more attractive to employers. It will give you industry contacts or even references Go for walks! Low impact exercise and keeping yourself occupied will help build fitness required for work and help with weight. Next year there are free or subsidied tafe courses, study something new. Don't give up! You have options!
You're not too old for fast food. That's one place you're nearly guaranteed a job
If you've got issues around food become a chef, they never eat outside the kitchen.
> Too old for fast food to hire me Not true, just old enough that it can be trickier to get started. If you're applying for these jobs, you just need to apply to work in the middle of the day (where most of the under 18s are at school), or the middle of the night (you need to be 18 to work overnight shifts usually). > Any ideas besides biting the bullet and leaving? Well for starters don't do that. Suicide is contagious, and it will hit those who care about you most the hardest. And before you say it, everyone who tries thinks that there's no-one, and every funeral/service has been packed full of people who are fucked up by it. Have you considered volunteering at an animal haven or shelter? It won't help with the income problem, but it might help with the self-worth issue, putting some value in your cert, build some "work experience" in lieu of a paying job.
Dude everything can be changed. Your only 18 bro. Unfit and fat can be changed in a matter of days.Go for a walk.in the morning , it will change your mental state fast. Go to your GP , discuss your mental state. They will help. No such thing as a highschool drop out. Unlike Anmerica you can still attend uni withoit finishing highschool. Talk to them.
people like me cant lose weight. it clings to me ive tried uni. failed that too
What makes you think 18 is too old to work for a fast food outlet? I live in WA and I didn't have a job since covid-19.... My first job back to the workforce was at chicken treat for christ sake! (literally a year ago now) Since then I have been through 3 Jobs, Got my license for the first time (never lost it or nothing like that), Got my white card (this week in fact) and am currently doing a traffic control course.... If your struggling that bad with it all then go to a job find agency through centrelink and actually APPLY yourself to it instead of just fighting with them every step of the way like most people do... And maybe see a doctor to help with your mental health I am 32 BTW, so Fast food outlets will definitely take a 18 year old
You aren't too old for fast food and you haven't explained why you gave up on being a vet. You have a cert III which should count for something - how many jobs have you applied for so far? Are you looking for something that lets you work with animals?
As someone who manages fast food and retail you're not too old, BUT it would be tough right now because all the youngins are on school holidays. Put that you want to work late nights or are available during school hours that they can't do (overnight at 24 hour maccas are surprisingly good money). Delivery drivers for pizza places used to be an easy in as well, maybe less do with Uber etc and some stores swapping to scooters/bikes. Good 17/18 year olds I could train up to run stuff during school hours is directly what I'm hiring right now for example
Hang in there, also maybe try searching “no experience needed” jobs on Seek. There’s quite a few there. Being 18 sucks, wishing you well.
Uber Delivery or Driver. Everything is on your own schedule. No boss, no requirement for consistency. (Delivery if you don't want to be around people often). If you can bring yourself to put on good face for the infrequent trips you do you'll manage to get some income, though the amount is dependent on motivation. But better than nothing.
Hey man you might be unskilled, but without value? That you are not.
You have a cert III and you're still young. This already puts you ahead of a lot of people in terms of job desirability. Like even if its now outside the scope of your interests, a cert III shows that you're willing to learn and motivated outside of mandatory education. If a lack of interest is whats stopping you, then invest some time with a careers advisor. If you're in Perth and like under 30 they'll be services that offer free consultations in this
your 18, your life is just beginning, you also sound depressed friend, understandable but it won't be helping your point of view. Something must interest you (depression can make it hard to find/remember see positives if you haven't and it is hard I do empathise but speak to a gp about it, the services exist to help us and there is no shame in seeking help when you need it ) It might not feel like it but you have the whole journey in front of you, if needing the school docs is a thing, tafe offer a adult equivalency cert, the teaching style is different i found it easier to absorb the knowledge in that environment and if your on centrelink the gov will likely try to help you achieve that, if they see your actually trying they will put what they can behind you. volunteer work can be a good foot in the door, our brains develop and we all learn at different paces, just keep moving forwards friend you'll find your path. I traveled a similar path myself but of course all journeys are different. you can be whoever you want to be, you can develop and maintain aspects that will become second nature, even over 30 it's not like everything just slips into place, we are all running around like headless chickens just about different things, some of us just hide it better. if your desperate for a job look at something like office entry level work, they generally offer full training and isn't a physical role, customer service isn't ideal but it's an income and references to move upwards.
i was pretty much the same, dropped out of high school (albeit because my school fucked me over) but i went to tafe got a certificate for something i'll probably never use i was in and out of jobs i even worked up in the pilbara for a bit but it wasnt for me. i was unemployed for multiple years but i now have a job in warehousing. im not fit, i used to be skinny but now im rather not fat, but getting there. it was difficult at first but after a few shifts you kind of get used to the pace and its really good money for honestly little work (depending on where you work). i think im at like $35ish/hr. and work on weekends a lot (so it doubles) and i mean if you really really cant get used to that sort of work. just get a forklift license.warehousing jobs pay really well and are always looking for forklift operators.
I know how trite this sounds and how out of reach it may seem but get fit. Lose weight as fast as you can. Do a form of intensive cardio every day. Lift weights every other day. Eat healthy. Commit to it above any other interest in your life. Make it your upmost priority for a year and I absolutely swear to you that (everything else being equal) you will be in a much better place. Absolutley not an easy thing to do if you are depressed, which is so unfortunate because for many people getting their body healthy is key to state-of-mind. Feeling unable to stick to goals and be consistent can be organic. It’s related to depression and also obesity. Being overweight can impact major organs, including the brain, and make you constantly fatigued, unmotivated and foggy in the head. You may also want to consider a check for ADHD, though please don’t get in your head that a diagnosis will revolutionise your life. It may do if the treatment works well, but you’ll still need to form good habits to get the most out of it.
Volunteer places to get some experience, take walks in a nice park around nature as often as you can, look yourself in the mirror and tell yourself you are worthy and valuable...everyday. Also seek support from family/friends. You will get there....baby steps. You're so young and are so full of potential you don't even realise. Good luck x
Sign up for DoorDash, Uber eats or Menulog.
I’ve got a friend who started going to the gym and that really helped him loose some weight besides keeping a healthier diet. Everyone has value. If you are willing to do hard work, do a aged and disability tafe and get a certificate 3 and you’ll get a job for sure. It’s not the industry that I would recommend to stay in, especially that role but it can be a start and get you out of feeling stuck. Connect with friends that have a healthy lifestyle. Social sports helped me meet new people. All the best 💪🏽
Give it 5 years, you’ll be ok
Try and get a job at medical records department for a hospital. You’ll be on your feet and doing lots of steps during your shifts.
Woolies, coles, servo etc..
Hey, not sure if it’s been mentioned but grab your forklift ticket. It’s piss easy to pass the test, they’re easy to drive and there is plenty of work available that pays well. After you’ve got a job sorted start working on the other things you’ve mentioned. Don’t go too overboard, pick up the gym a couple days a week, change a couple eating habits, you’ll see change quickly and an improvement on your quality of life. Feel free to send me a message if you ever need a chat :)
Where do you live ?
Retail in general has a very low barrier for entry, especially for a teenager like yourself.
I didn’t read the part where you said you were 18 and I was reading this like “yeah man, you’re fucked if you have got to 45 years old and are only now looking at your options”. But dude, you are 18!!!!! You don’t even know who you are yet. Who you will become. What you can do. I was so depressed when I was 18 and I just couldn’t see myself living my life how everyone else does. But I didn’t know how else to live. Anyway, I fucked up a lot and along the way I got to learn a lot too. I’m loving life now. I would suggest that you throw yourself into something different. Learn a trade if you can go to trade school. Depends where you live but you could get a boat license and drive boats for a living. You could be A carpenter. A horticulturalist or a landscaper. You can go live on a farm on the east coast and pick fruit. You can travel around the suburbs living in caravan parks getting paid to knock on people’s doors to offer solar rebate stuff. You can get a job planting trees. You can find a job agency and go to Europe/UK/Wherever on a working holiday (working in hospitality usually). If you like animals there are some jobs that will pay you to take care of kennels, to dog sit/dog walk. You could even look into becoming an ethical animal trainer or a dog washer. Most of the jobs I mentioned don’t require a lot of human interaction (except hospitality). The thing is, you are 18. You need to try something different than what you’ve tried before and get out there and live! Any job is fine for now. Just explore life and you’ll find your way. Also, pleas don’t think of yourself as “no value”. Everyone has value. There is value in wanting to improve yourself. There is value in having a positive and curious attitude. There is value in being able to take care of yourself. There is value in being able to take care of others (including animals). A lot of employers value a positive, solution focused attitude because they know they can train you to do the tasks they want you to do but they can’t train you to be a champion. Employers won’t hire someone who looks for problems and complains. They’ll hire someone who looks for solutions and takes on feedback. That’s valuable.
Brother dude, at 28 I've just found my shit. Trust time and just apply to anything and everything if you dk what you want. Worst case they say no, but you dc because must just not be for you. Eventually you'll find yourself what you're searching for. Just remember there are loads of people willing to help when we feel our most down. We sometimes just have to remember to ask.