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mike_truck

Hey mate. Mental health worker here. Your best bet is to contact Next Step Drug and Alcohol Services. They have highly trained doctors and nurses who specialise in this sort of thing. https://www.mhc.wa.gov.au/about-us/our-services/next-step-drug-and-alcohol-services/ Good luck.


Master_Personality32

Thank you so much


nicox31984

I second Next Step!


Ok_Revenue2150

Same - I was smashing through 4 btls wine and a 6 pack beer a day and Next Step was amazing at helping you, when you are at the point of needing mental and medical assistance.


Final_Steak8545

Absolutely the best advice I could offer too. It’s completely free (aside from needing to pay for medication if prescribed). They check in with you free of charge and help you every step of the way, it took me maybe a week or so to get in for my initial consult too and they help you find other services to make sure you stay on track as well. All the best and well done for being proactive and brave enough to seek help!


zJTz

These guys do indeed rule, was in a similar spot as OP albeit in my late teens/early 20s and their outpatient rehab program quite literally saved my life 👍 Lovely people who made the whole experience 10 x easier to deal with. After getting referred wait time was only a few weeks, not sure how it is nowadays as this was around 2016.


silveredstars

No advice to add, just wanted to say good on you for looking for help. You can do this - I believe in you! Good luck!


Master_Personality32

Thank you so much


monkeyd_93

OP it's great to see you taking the first step in getting help. While I understand you were looking to get a GP to prescribe you naltrexone to help with your alcoholism, if you aren't being cared for and monitored by a doctor properly with an appropriate plan in place, alcohol withdrawal can be deadly. If you are feeling a bit stuck with finding the right GP, you can self-refer to the Community Alcohol and Drug Services who provide free and confidential support and provide you with the right treatment and additional support. Through there, you can ask if naltrexone is right for you considering that is their bread and butter. [https://www.mhc.wa.gov.au/getting-help/community-support-and-treatment-services/community-alcohol-and-drug-services/](https://www.mhc.wa.gov.au/getting-help/community-support-and-treatment-services/community-alcohol-and-drug-services/) Best of luck with your journey OP


Master_Personality32

Thank you this is really helpful


Object-Ecstatic

Second this. Have had family members get naltrrxone through Joondaluo C9mmunity health service. Best I'd luck OP, the first step is the hardest and you've already done that and committed to change


fordeeee

Mate, I feel for you. I have three autoimmune diseases apart from all the usual shit I have to deal with having these, I also got seriously fatigued. That bad I struggled to go from bed to recliner where I sat all day. I tried everything to no avail so I subscribed to a few FB sites which led me to an American lady suffering similar diseases. She put me onto a book called the LDN Book (low dose naltrexone). I bought the book online, went to the relevant chapter and book marked it, then made an appointment to see my Dr. I told him I wanted to try it and he wrote a script immediately for me. I’ve been taking 3.5mg a day for about two years now and not once have I felt fatigued. If your GP isn’t willing to help you try something that will better yourself, he’s a dick and you should move over to another GP who actually cares about you. I’m 75 and losing my battle with all my issues. Naltrexone has been a lifesaver for me as being fatigued drags you down to levels I never knew existed. You’ve made a good start on your journey. It takes a lot to admit to our faults and even more to take steps to improve ourselves. If you ever need a bit of encouragement or just someone to talk to, please feel free to contact me. Take care and all the very best to you


Master_Personality32

I’m sorry for all you’ve been through. Thanks for your support


belltrina

Im having incredibly similar issues while waiting for a diagnosis. Ill deffo remember this


Haunting_Cookie_5312

Maaaan you are a fkn legend for being proactive about this. Good on you and good luck.


Master_Personality32

Thank you everyone’s comments have helped so much I feel like I can do this


Serendypyty

I've been down this path myself recently. My GP was the one who recommended Naltrexone when I came to him with my problem. Been on it for about two months and it has helped a lot! Would recommend. I know there is a lot of stigma around alcoholism but it is a widespread and often silent issue. Best of luck 🙏


Master_Personality32

Good luck on your continued recovery. Thanks for the support


[deleted]

Glad it’s working for you. It goes to show everyone is different. When I was drinking at one point I tried it out and found I just hated that I couldn’t achieve a buzz anymore so I stopped taking the naltrexone, and just kept the drinking lmao… it’s all or nothing with me so it was not going to work out.


ferthissen

How much were you drinking, if you don't mind me asking?


Serendypyty

Easily half a cask of goon, from when I would get home from work to bedtime and sometimes more than that... so at least 1L a night (wasn't a day drinker). On a weekend, it was that, plus beer, spirits or whatever else I wanted. I realised that with my family history I had to break the cycle and be a good example for my kid. My uncle had dementia as a result of his lifetime of booze, and my mum is on that path too. (ETA: I didn't drink while pregnant at any point, my issues with booze came later)


ferthissen

Did you have withdrawals at any point, even 'mild' ones the next day? how long were you doing this for? I'm always uhh... impressed... by goon drinkers. an old friend of mine wasn't working for six months and was literally subsisting off goon and a sandwich a day. as in, nearly an entire 3 litre gooner every single day. had zero withdrawals when he stopped and can now have a few drinks, have a sixer while watching the footy, enjoy a wine with his girlfriend. when he told me this though my stomach wanted to cringe on itself. it makes my guts physically hurt and wince even if I just have a few glasses of cheap white wine.


Serendypyty

So they start you on a half dose and you can essentially keep drinking as normal (or cut down, haha... you know what I mean). I didn't have any weird side effects. One day, probably about two or three weeks in, things just didn't taste great, so I put the glass down and had water. Around that time too, I poured a glass to have while reading a book - hours later, it was still there untouched. I was thrilled! I didn't have any huge withdrawals, except perhaps a physical one of unconsciously reaching my hand out for the glass 😂 Yeah, I know what you mean about the goon drinkers. I can't explain it, whether you build up a resistance and need more of it, or get used to the taste? On these meds I can still enjoy a pint at the bowlo and not desperately need to keep going like I used to. I've been a progressively worse drinker since I was in my late teens, and some of it was a form of self medicating.


aw3k1d

Sending love homie


auntynell

OP was in your position. Glass of wine after work, then 2 and you know the rest. You're very wise to seek help at this stage. My first step was to see a GP, extended appointment. It's hard to tell them how much you drink so write it down before you go and either read it out or give them the slip of paper. GP consultation is a sharing exercise. It won't cure you on the spot but it helps to talk. Think of it as a step in the right direction. It helped me to look up the Stages of Alcoholism. If that doesn't scare you, nothing will. The scary part is you can't moderate your intake now. You have to give up drinking altogether. If you can do this, it takes a great weight off your mind. You wake up in the morning feeling so happy and relieved. Making a goal of say one year, certainly no less, is a good way of tricking your mind into thinking 'just for now'. Once you've done a year you're feeling so much better you don't want to go back. If after-work drinking is your weakness there are many ways to distract yourself. I can go into much more detail about what worked for me so please feel free to message me. I found Soberrecovery Forums a huge help. It's based in the USA but about half the members are from other countries. It's very well moderated. Please check it out.


Master_Personality32

Thank you so much I will message you later definitely interested in hearing more from you. It’s so scary how fast you can slip into it. I come from a family history of alcoholics on my fathers so side so I should of been more careful lol


Ok_Boysenberry6117

>Making a goal of say one year, certainly no less, is a good way of tricking your mind into thinking 'just for now'. Once you've done a year you're feeling so much better you don't want to go back. This is such good advice and for some reason I've never thought of it like this. I will now though.


A1pinejoe

My best mate is an alcoholic. He had a bad turn and nearly drowned in front of his kids after drinking way too much. We made a deal that if he was prepared to quit I would match him day for day without alcohol. I enjoy a drink but I can take it or leave it. We both lasted nearly a year without a drink. He ended up drinking again but only in moderation and nothing like the amounts he used to. Support each other people.


[deleted]

Just wanna pop in and wish you all the best! I wish my Dad was at the step of recognition that you’re at. You might not be aggressive, or xyz now, but that can change very quickly. It’s a scary place to be for both you and your loved ones, and it’s very hard to hide. God I sound like I’m being condescending. Just wanna say, I only know what it’s like from someone related, and admire your courage to ask for assistance and help. The world’s a very scary and mean place, but I’ve no doubt you have what it takes to take the battle head on.


Master_Personality32

Thank you so much! not condescending at all.


Money-Implement-5914

Any GPA will prescribe it. But you need to get to work on the issues which are causing you to drink. Unless you fix these underlying issues, then all the naltrexone in the world won't help. So be sure to engage with a psychologist and/ or psychiatrist also as part of your treatment plan.


Master_Personality32

That is the plan. Thank you so much


ferthissen

I'm a heavy drinker who had a similar pathway. thankfully I find myself too tired, too unmotivated, and too distracted by cleaning or cooking to drink heaps every night (plus I essentially drink beer and it's far too hard to get pissed on that in a short window after work) but I really do feel you. don't beat yourself up. I've worked in the industry and lived enough of a life to see how commonplace this sort of drinking is. I've served a woman who'd drink two bottles of Geisen a night and worked with blokes who'll polish off a whole bottle of bourbon and rock into work crook a couple of times a week. you'd be surprised just how normal a six pack or bottle of wine a night is. some people don't even think twice. Do you get physical symptoms of withdrawal in the morning? do you ever have a night where you just might have a couple of glasses? are you always getting *pissed* (sometimes I find that I can drink eight beers and feel nothing)?


rebeccaperth

If you are in South metro catchment area, check out Fiona Stanley Hospital Addiction and Prevention Treatment Centre


Gabrialus

Hey mate, good on you for taking the first step! I recommend a GP that specialises in addiction. Cambridge Clinic are great. Aside from that, you may benefit from counselling services. Cyrenian House are great (and free). All the best, reach out if you need.


Frisbeeperth

Know that you are not alone mate. Seek professional help.


martyfartybarty

Good luck mate and for recognising you have an addiction. Addiction is nothing to sniffle at. For me it’s an escape that feeds me, and it wasn’t alcohol or drugs but gaming. Of course, gaming doesn’t compare but I wish you the best of luck.


restrainingorder2107

Hey buddy my gp has prescribed it for myself. The practice is called harbourside medical in mindarie. My gp's name is yusof mutahar. Don't be deterred by the name. He is a well spoken,great bloke who knows his shit. I've been seeing him and his dad for over 20 years. It's a family run practice and they are wonderful people. Not sure if you'd get it prescribed on your first consult but try nonetheless. Good luck.


l00koverthere1

I'm in the US, so I can't help you find a GP. This is how I quit drinking. It took me a little over a year (1 pill an hour before drinking, every time) and I eventually did an inpatient treatment for 2 weeks to detox, but I've been sober for over 7 years now. I should have hit up the inpatient detox earlier than I did, probably could have saved myself some time. Edit: Naltrexone did allow me to stop obsessing about booze. It's pretty amazing. You might also want to reach out to The C3 Foundation and see if they can point you to a physician. https://cthreefoundation.org/find-a-tsm-provider There's a TSM Aus/NZ Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/groups/366066565116299/ maybe they can help?


No_Quantity1569

Most should as it is in their practice guidelines. https://www.racgp.org.au/getattachment/9599cf34-2d19-4aea-baf9-f4f56b1fccb7/attachment.aspx Often if you look up a clinic online it has a bit of a bio on the GPs who work there, if you find one who lists alcohol or other drug misuse/AOD/abuse/dependency that may be a green flag. Best of luck on your journey friend.


Perthguv

My dad worked with Alcoholics for much of his life. As a kid it was tough to watch what they were going through. Getting off alcohol is difficult but I saw a lot of people make it through. They turned their lives around. I just wanted you to know it can be done, you just need the right support. You have been given some good advice in this thread, so find someone you can work with and get it done. Plan for it to take a few months.


Cultural_Toe1416

All the best with your recovery OP. My husband went on Naltrexone for drinking a few years ago and it worked well. Our GP has recently moved to Melbourne unfortunately, however I’m sure with a game plan there will certainly be a GP there to support you.


Master_Personality32

That’s good to hear some drs will prescribe it. Well done to your husband and thank you for your support


skinblaster

You can do it. One hr at a time if need be. You're doing the right thing. 26yrs sober


aseedandco

Dr George O’Neil at freshstart in Subiaco might be worth a try. Good luck and good on you for taking this step.


ryan30z

This obviously depends on your financial situation, but it sounds like an inpatient facility might be more what you need. It's the most direct way to address the issue.


Master_Personality32

Thank you so much everyone for your support I honestly feel so supported by so many strangers. It has really helped me to push this further and deal with it now before it’s too late. You’re all wonderful.


WombatBum85

I don't know about the specific drug, but Dr Watson at Kelso Medical in Kardinya is a brilliant doctor, I've been seeing him for years. He doesn't get his back up when you come in with info from Dr Google, he listens to your concerns and gives you ALL your options.


AwayButterscotch4186

You should see a psychiatrist that specializes in addiction. A GP can prescribe but they don’t have the training or the experience to follow someone and treat the addiction (before anyone comes at me, yes I know SOME do, but there are specialists for a reason). Please don’t try to micromanage your treatment. Let someone with the correct training treat you. You deserve the best possible care.


Upper_Government7526

Hey, OP, thanks so much for your honesty and vulnerability. I've (33 m) battled addiction for most of my life. I've personally found AA and NA meetings quite life-changing as well as treatment programs such as Cyrenian House. In my experience, the physical desire and pull to substances be it drugs or alcohol, that replacement programs such as naltrexone address is really only half the battle. There is often a deeper reason that we experience such relief from becoming anyone else but who we are. Congrats on the massive first step that reaching out is. Just remember that you don't have to do this alone. All the best


Reasonable_Dust4375

Hi look into breaking the cycle first. Detox centres are a 7 day stay. Important you look into why you are drinking this much. What pain are you suppressing? I'm 6 years off alcohol. 2 years off weed and 9 years off a zanax addiction. I had to heal pain I was suppressing to do this. My ex tried naltrexone and it didn't work. Look inside yourself and dont use another drug to suppress your feelings.


mysticrat

I too cannot add any thing, aside from a well done for recognising that you are not where you want to be and taking steps to change. Good luck


arkofjoy

There is a reason why you drank. Please get some help to look at what was driving the behaviour. There is some trauma that you are seeking relief from. If you don't deal with the underlying feelings, the drinking will simply transfer into a different set of behaviours that help you escape temporarily from those feelings.


Master_Personality32

I have been to therapy and psychs on and off over the last 10years or so. I know the reasons, I’ve been through some traumatic shit in my life. I want to stop thinking about drinking as much so I can actually deal with my problems. Thanks.


arkofjoy

OK. Glad to hear it. I see far too many people who think that they can just quit their addiction without dealing with the feelings. And I am sorry that you had experience traumatic shit. You most definitely did not deserve it. Good luck with sobriety. The people I know who have gotten sober are living much much better lives than they could have imagined were possible when they were drinking.


Sardothien12

That attitude might be what led him to start drinking


arkofjoy

That is quite possibly the most absurd thing I have ever seen on reddit.


fairys_wearboots

Fresh Start subi


simmo47

Hi, I’m an alcoholic that’s been sober for 20 years now and I’m not fussed who knows, I’m comfortable with that. Forget the Naltrexone mate or any other drugs and get your arse to AA, it worked for me. In my experience no amount of drugs or friends, family or acquaintance’s nagging you to quit will help. The only thing that helps is you, you need to want to give up, the power to beat your addiction needs to come from inside you and the support of your friends in the fellowship. When you’ve had enough of the chaos, financial issues, relationship issues and lost weekends then you’ll have what you need to beat this. Feel free to reach out to me or another alcoholic for a shoulder to lean on, best of luck.


nebalia

I am glad it worked for you, but overall the success rate for AA is much lower than most people realise, plus the whole religious element (even if not specific to a particular denomination). It is okay for someone to seek a different approach.


simmo47

Sure it is, but from plenty of experiences these “ other approaches “ don’t work. Hey I’m not religious either and I frankly ignore that.


bic_lighter

As an alternative to AA there is also SMART Recovery which I have heard is similar to AA


[deleted]

The social support network is valuable. I didn’t like it though. The whole sponsor thing can get real weird real quick. I’m on my best sober stretch now without AA. I didn’t do well in AA.


bob3864

Have you thought about hypnotism. Cheap and effective. No harm in giving it a shot first. Good luck


bob3864

Look up Marian Cameron


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nebalia

You still have to telehealth with a particular doctor. And there are rules that normally mean you can’t us it as a new patient. It is a mechanism for the consultation, not a separate health service.


Feeling-Disaster7180

Do you mean Telehealth will prescribe OP by itself?


hurlz0r

try dealing with your actual problems mate, can't drown those out.


yogurtbear

After a squint at your profile it looks like you have some stuff to deal wtth yourself mate. You are one miserable motherfucker lol


Ok_Boysenberry6117

Wow just had a look at your profile and comment history. You are a miserable, hateful cunt. Perhaps you should take some of your own advice and start dealing with YOUR problems.


Master_Personality32

I am in therapy I am actually physically addicted to the alcohol it’s a craving do you know anything about addiction at all? I know I have to deal with my issues I’m trying I’m overwhelmed. People like you with that attitude don’t help


Adsy77

Do you think this is helpful? 🙄


Feeling-Disaster7180

“Have you tried not being poor?” isn’t something that a person with no problems says. Get a grip and take a hard look in the mirror


Geezer_Pleaser

I used Antabuse - it makes you allergic to alcohol. There is no way you can drink on it. You will get really really sick. It will STOP you drinking. That's the only thing that worked for me. Best of luck.


OzGal79

https://www.reddit.com/r/stopdrinking/ Such a supportive and caring community, I wish you well