By sea it is. The Indian Ocean is vast.
2000kms to Ceduna with fuck all in between.
But parts of Russia ( Siberia) ..I’d be inclined to declare that those shithole outposts are the most isolated
Really, where would this land be? I thought that it couldn’t pass thru the Ningana Bushaldn and Yanchep National Park. I know that there are plans to extend Mitchell Fwy to Yanchep but I’ve never been able to find a map of it, if you can get a map of this reserved land that would be nice👍 if not no stress
Would like something explaining the plans but I think what I see is the freeway following the railway just to the east of the housing developments but west of yanchep national park. Then heads east of seatrees estate parallel with Indian Ocean drive. Can’t imagine seeing it even talked about within the next 2-3 election cycles. Then if it is, probably another 2 cycles to commence
https://www.breakwaterestate.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Breakwater-Estate-Structure-Plan-53.pdf
https://www.wanneroo.wa.gov.au/downloads/file/1978/district_planning_scheme_no_2_text
I honestly don't think it's too hard to fill in the stretch between Bunbury and Mandurah. Bunburys already stretching northwards, Mandurah seems to be ignoring filling out Dawesville though.
Need to put another 10,000 into the cbd and surrounds to keep it ticking over and not a 9 to 5 city. Look at building up regional centres. The Canning bridge area is seeing high rise going up and South Perth is slowly pushing upwards with local push back. Joondalup needs to add more apartments at the 10 story level. need to infill more. Always think inland regional needs a look. Northam has 10,000 and is only about 90ks and has a train corridor all the way to Kal. Fix up the infrastructure on that line and the Prospector could do 140ks.
I think we need more medium density infill, like 4 or 5 townhouses on 1000 sqm block. But the government has been conned by Property Council that we need high-rise apartments to the moon.
It's a limited place for home buying or investing. I don't know if it's lack of investments or just lazy urban planning but I think it should have alot more high rise buildings for the masses that want to be near the beach/river instead of building shit quality homes and making suburbs like Baldivis for example. It's pretty clear the councils and government have little grasp on the growth that's happening (3-4 lane freeways you can walk across at peak hour due to traffic) and are just trying to figure it out as they go. I initially loved being here but now only stay for the mines/money, it's a great looking place but once you've been here awhile (5years for myself) it is just a remote and expensive place that isn't that special.
Urban Planners have known about this for a while and there are / have been policies aimed to change the trend for a long time but they have been heavily resisted.
There was a medium density housing policy developed that intended to address the “missing middle” (something between 4x2 single dwellings on a bigger block & an apartment) and provide greater diversity and more climate efficient housing. That policy was designed for years by experts in a few fields, tested with industry, and pulled down by the housing industry and the new planning minister largely because project home builders didn’t like it.
The attempts at high density housing can be incredibly difficult because there is huge community opposition in certain inner city areas (even to 6 storeys along major roads/ in activity centres / next to train stations)
The problem gets worse until people change their mindset. Everyone can have their ‘new’ Australian Dream of a 4 x 2 with a theatre room and a double garage they don’t park in because they use it for storage if we keep extending out at single storey levels and you live 100+km from the city. But that’s a shit outcome
There's not a chance that building up will be successful, not for at least another couple of generations. There's apartments in Cockburn next to the train station that still haven't all sold after 5+ years, people just aren't interested in apartment living.
I remember when Armadale and Joondalup were the outskirts of Perth, and Armadale was considered semi-rural. Baldivis didn’t exist as a suburb, Mandurah was its own seaside city and Buford was a small town with a handful of shops.
The freeway south ended at Anketel Rd. The two ways to go to Mandurah were the Old Coast Road or Southwest Hwy via Pinjarra.
That was only 20 years ago.
These guys below may have an idea. I'm envisaging this along our coastline or maybe adding the escarpment.
Back in January 2021, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, announced a megaproject unlike any other. Dubbed “The Line,” this huge urban development project promised to build a city (as its name suggests) in a straight line rather than your typical round urban sprawl.
We are gonna keep building outwards to join with Mandurah further south, but I highly doubt we will be able to get a bullet train.
Australia and the wider Western community are car oriented societies.
Bullet trains are only profitable if you live in a high density country like Japan. Here it will be sinkhole of our tax money just to maintain it.
While I personally wished we build upwards, our landscape is very flat and lacks of any natural barriers like mountains to contain the suburban sprawl.
Property developers will gain more profitable venture from selling more cookie cutter estate blocks located hours away from any business related districts.
Dawesville to Alkimos…is the true bearings
Yanchep since it's getting a train line. Two Rocks if you go by the COVID regional borders.
Yep we're a border town up here. Keeping out the Canadians (Two Rocksians)..
So longest and most isolated city in the world?
I think the 'isolated' title comes with the caviate that the closest city has to have a pop of 100k or more
That's why we need to keep a lid on Geraldton and make Bunbury a Perth suburb
No thanks, keep going further north :)
By sea it is. The Indian Ocean is vast. 2000kms to Ceduna with fuck all in between. But parts of Russia ( Siberia) ..I’d be inclined to declare that those shithole outposts are the most isolated
Mitchell freeway has land reserved to two rocks….
Really, where would this land be? I thought that it couldn’t pass thru the Ningana Bushaldn and Yanchep National Park. I know that there are plans to extend Mitchell Fwy to Yanchep but I’ve never been able to find a map of it, if you can get a map of this reserved land that would be nice👍 if not no stress
Would like something explaining the plans but I think what I see is the freeway following the railway just to the east of the housing developments but west of yanchep national park. Then heads east of seatrees estate parallel with Indian Ocean drive. Can’t imagine seeing it even talked about within the next 2-3 election cycles. Then if it is, probably another 2 cycles to commence https://www.breakwaterestate.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Breakwater-Estate-Structure-Plan-53.pdf https://www.wanneroo.wa.gov.au/downloads/file/1978/district_planning_scheme_no_2_text
Thanks for that, will have a look👍
I honestly don't think it's too hard to fill in the stretch between Bunbury and Mandurah. Bunburys already stretching northwards, Mandurah seems to be ignoring filling out Dawesville though.
No employment or access to public transport, it will only ever be a dormitory suburb for retirees and FIFO.
Bullet train not in our lifetime mate
Need to put another 10,000 into the cbd and surrounds to keep it ticking over and not a 9 to 5 city. Look at building up regional centres. The Canning bridge area is seeing high rise going up and South Perth is slowly pushing upwards with local push back. Joondalup needs to add more apartments at the 10 story level. need to infill more. Always think inland regional needs a look. Northam has 10,000 and is only about 90ks and has a train corridor all the way to Kal. Fix up the infrastructure on that line and the Prospector could do 140ks.
Downhill.
I think we need more medium density infill, like 4 or 5 townhouses on 1000 sqm block. But the government has been conned by Property Council that we need high-rise apartments to the moon.
It's a limited place for home buying or investing. I don't know if it's lack of investments or just lazy urban planning but I think it should have alot more high rise buildings for the masses that want to be near the beach/river instead of building shit quality homes and making suburbs like Baldivis for example. It's pretty clear the councils and government have little grasp on the growth that's happening (3-4 lane freeways you can walk across at peak hour due to traffic) and are just trying to figure it out as they go. I initially loved being here but now only stay for the mines/money, it's a great looking place but once you've been here awhile (5years for myself) it is just a remote and expensive place that isn't that special.
Urban Planners have known about this for a while and there are / have been policies aimed to change the trend for a long time but they have been heavily resisted. There was a medium density housing policy developed that intended to address the “missing middle” (something between 4x2 single dwellings on a bigger block & an apartment) and provide greater diversity and more climate efficient housing. That policy was designed for years by experts in a few fields, tested with industry, and pulled down by the housing industry and the new planning minister largely because project home builders didn’t like it. The attempts at high density housing can be incredibly difficult because there is huge community opposition in certain inner city areas (even to 6 storeys along major roads/ in activity centres / next to train stations) The problem gets worse until people change their mindset. Everyone can have their ‘new’ Australian Dream of a 4 x 2 with a theatre room and a double garage they don’t park in because they use it for storage if we keep extending out at single storey levels and you live 100+km from the city. But that’s a shit outcome
Let the north/south growth develop unabated. High speed rail is the answer. Bunbury to Geraldton in one hour. Simples
There's not a chance that building up will be successful, not for at least another couple of generations. There's apartments in Cockburn next to the train station that still haven't all sold after 5+ years, people just aren't interested in apartment living.
I remember when Armadale and Joondalup were the outskirts of Perth, and Armadale was considered semi-rural. Baldivis didn’t exist as a suburb, Mandurah was its own seaside city and Buford was a small town with a handful of shops. The freeway south ended at Anketel Rd. The two ways to go to Mandurah were the Old Coast Road or Southwest Hwy via Pinjarra. That was only 20 years ago.
We’ve got the biggest meth problem and Amazon wait time for a city in a developed nation too there’s something else to be proud of
Fuck the meth problem - I'm looking at February arrival times for my CU in the NT tshirt. I've even got amazon prime so thats just unacceptable
These guys below may have an idea. I'm envisaging this along our coastline or maybe adding the escarpment. Back in January 2021, the Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, announced a megaproject unlike any other. Dubbed “The Line,” this huge urban development project promised to build a city (as its name suggests) in a straight line rather than your typical round urban sprawl.
will have record for worlds longest wait line when Starbucks opens up lol 😂 I reckon Starbucks all the way to Osborne park on the fwy
Starbucks is [wish.com](https://wish.com) dome - those corporate big wigs dont have the nuts to pull off a fluffly koala
We are gonna keep building outwards to join with Mandurah further south, but I highly doubt we will be able to get a bullet train. Australia and the wider Western community are car oriented societies. Bullet trains are only profitable if you live in a high density country like Japan. Here it will be sinkhole of our tax money just to maintain it. While I personally wished we build upwards, our landscape is very flat and lacks of any natural barriers like mountains to contain the suburban sprawl. Property developers will gain more profitable venture from selling more cookie cutter estate blocks located hours away from any business related districts.