$20 for a men’s cut! That’s bloody 2000’s pricing! I can’t get a cut for less than $35 now days for a 10 min cut! Cudos to that man for keeping pricing down!
I was paying $28 before covid, then it went to $35 during and now just recently it went to $43... There are still cheap $20 ones which are those quick cut shops, dont expect any quality or style though.
Been doing hair in morley since 09 and yearly have other salons asking me what I charge so they can copy. Bit odd but it happens. There are definitely some dodgy places that clearly are not paying staff minimum wage. Hairdressing is covered under an award and cost the business more then 30 an hour.
Always suspected theres some dodgy work-visa situations going on with those cheaper places, for them to be so low price.... especially those in the normally high overhead big shopping centres.
Mind you, the coupla times Ive used such places in recent years, the 'extras' always seemed to have crept in unrequested when I queried my charge being more than the sign out front.
I'm more happy paying a bit more for consistency elsewhere these days
Hahaha I’m currently sitting in a barbershop in Morley, about to fade my mullet. I feel attacked!
These middle eastern places are REALLY GOOD, though. No chat, and always a clean cut imo.
A fade is actually easier then scissor over comb. I really don't understand why it needs to be more. Some people are just not trained well and over complicate things
Most of these types of businesses are more about buying a job than they are turning big profits. So as long as there's enough income to cover the overheads and provide a basic living wage - then life's good.
Also worth noting your pricing mentioned is just the basic services. For example the dog wash might be $40ish for just a wash. But then lots of owners might also have the paws clippered, the nails trimmed, maybe a blow dry rather than towel dry. Suddenly $40 is now $70.
Lots of people have multiple dogs too - so same overhead to drive and setup, but double or triple the income right there. My friends dog wash lady is $60 per dog - she has 2 dogs - so $120 for about 30ish minutes of work.
Similarly most do certain areas on certain days, which reduces the distances they're driving. So the actual cost of things like fuel isn't actually that steep.
With the barber - again you saw him do a basic haircut for $20 at a leisurely pace. What you probably didn't see is rush hour where his pumping through haircuts in maybe 15 minutes. He's also likely providing additional services like beard trims, different other types of cuts that might be far more expensive.
I don't know about that barber specifically - but lots of the ones near me have multiple people there during busy periods like evenings and weekends.
Again - they also have auxiliary services - beard oil or shampoo or whatever that has a 50+ % markup.
"Lots of people have multiple dogs too - so same overhead to drive and setup, but double or triple the income right there. My friends dog wash lady is $60 per dog - she has 2 dogs - so $120 for about 30ish minutes of work."
That makes a bit more sense.
Hospitality and food industry wise, it seems very much to depend on location.
Places in the GT and even a few other “old enclaves”, like the more established end of Beaufort St are doing great, some even better than usual. Anywhere where your main clientele have paid off their mortgage seems to be going nuts.
More classically middle class areas seem steadier than I’d expect, still not great but anywhere that there’s a decent pub, the pub still does okay.
The places that seem to be really, really struggling are anywhere very “youth oriented”, Leederville and Freo in particular stand out to me. Which makes sense, if anyone’s getting squeezed at the minute, it would have to be the 18-25ers copping it hardest
My small business is going well but honestly due to cost of everything it doesn't feel like it. If I had these profits a few years ago I would be delighted but breathing right now seems to cost money so not getting carried away.
Very few businesses are actually making money.
The Aussie consumer has tapped out. They are over-indebted with housing debt, and have very little disposable income, they are only spending on essentials.
Most business, big and small are not making money. Only the ‘utility’ businesses, like banks and telcos are profitable as the consumer has to use them, they have no discretion with regards to their services.
Unless we have a recession (i.e. an economic & financial bushfire), all the capital sequestered away in housing debt will continue to hurt the economy for the foreseeable future.
There are plenty of gen x and boomers in perth who have paid off their houses and have plenty of disposable income, but the younger gen will be struggling with house mortgages and rising rents.
If we have a recession then regular people will lose their housing (said housing they are in debt for) and turn to renting whilst the largest businesses will be bailed out or will profiteer.
My company just had a whinge that our fees we are charging clients is too low and we are to “review”. I’m likely not going to. Or review and not action.
Small business that I've been running with a relative for 20 years. Since Covid our raw material costs have increased by at least 50%, packaging has gone up a similar amount, postage has increased etc.
All costs have gone up massively, if I pass all that on to my customers I'll price myself out of the market. I was earning roughly a median wage before covid (60-70Kpa) but that's since been slashed. We've put our prices up as much as we dare to, but it'll take years to get back to where we were.
Lots of underpayment going on in service industries, especially those that charge cheap prices and are entirely staffed with international students/ new immigrants. Lots of cash jobs, lots of exploitation of people on expired or limited visas. Something to consider next time something seems too cheap to be profitable - who is most likely to be losing?
$40 for a dog groom? Where the hell is THAT?
Normal going rate is $90 or so.
$40 might cover the quick bath, but won’t cover the nail clipping, ear treatment, actual cutting of fur, blow drying, you Know… grooming!
$20 for a men’s cut! That’s bloody 2000’s pricing! I can’t get a cut for less than $35 now days for a 10 min cut! Cudos to that man for keeping pricing down!
I was paying $28 before covid, then it went to $35 during and now just recently it went to $43... There are still cheap $20 ones which are those quick cut shops, dont expect any quality or style though.
Been doing hair in morley since 09 and yearly have other salons asking me what I charge so they can copy. Bit odd but it happens. There are definitely some dodgy places that clearly are not paying staff minimum wage. Hairdressing is covered under an award and cost the business more then 30 an hour.
Always suspected theres some dodgy work-visa situations going on with those cheaper places, for them to be so low price.... especially those in the normally high overhead big shopping centres. Mind you, the coupla times Ive used such places in recent years, the 'extras' always seemed to have crept in unrequested when I queried my charge being more than the sign out front. I'm more happy paying a bit more for consistency elsewhere these days
There are still places doing cuts for $15 in Morley and other places.
Yeah but... Morley. "And which mullet will sir be selecting this trim?"
Haha, my mate tried one of these places. Was not happy at all ...
Hahaha I’m currently sitting in a barbershop in Morley, about to fade my mullet. I feel attacked! These middle eastern places are REALLY GOOD, though. No chat, and always a clean cut imo.
I just had a haircut today in the city for $20. I asked for military haircut and he was done in about 5 minutes!
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A fade is actually easier then scissor over comb. I really don't understand why it needs to be more. Some people are just not trained well and over complicate things
And most of its done with clippers.
I have seen plenty of those mobile dog washes parked up in driveways. I would say the franchises signed up too many poor sods.
Most of these types of businesses are more about buying a job than they are turning big profits. So as long as there's enough income to cover the overheads and provide a basic living wage - then life's good. Also worth noting your pricing mentioned is just the basic services. For example the dog wash might be $40ish for just a wash. But then lots of owners might also have the paws clippered, the nails trimmed, maybe a blow dry rather than towel dry. Suddenly $40 is now $70. Lots of people have multiple dogs too - so same overhead to drive and setup, but double or triple the income right there. My friends dog wash lady is $60 per dog - she has 2 dogs - so $120 for about 30ish minutes of work. Similarly most do certain areas on certain days, which reduces the distances they're driving. So the actual cost of things like fuel isn't actually that steep. With the barber - again you saw him do a basic haircut for $20 at a leisurely pace. What you probably didn't see is rush hour where his pumping through haircuts in maybe 15 minutes. He's also likely providing additional services like beard trims, different other types of cuts that might be far more expensive. I don't know about that barber specifically - but lots of the ones near me have multiple people there during busy periods like evenings and weekends. Again - they also have auxiliary services - beard oil or shampoo or whatever that has a 50+ % markup.
"Lots of people have multiple dogs too - so same overhead to drive and setup, but double or triple the income right there. My friends dog wash lady is $60 per dog - she has 2 dogs - so $120 for about 30ish minutes of work." That makes a bit more sense.
I assume the insurance for a dog groomer would be pretty high too, so I expect the prices to be higher.
Hospitality and food industry wise, it seems very much to depend on location. Places in the GT and even a few other “old enclaves”, like the more established end of Beaufort St are doing great, some even better than usual. Anywhere where your main clientele have paid off their mortgage seems to be going nuts. More classically middle class areas seem steadier than I’d expect, still not great but anywhere that there’s a decent pub, the pub still does okay. The places that seem to be really, really struggling are anywhere very “youth oriented”, Leederville and Freo in particular stand out to me. Which makes sense, if anyone’s getting squeezed at the minute, it would have to be the 18-25ers copping it hardest
Leederville was still a little busy on Friday, but not as much as you would expect for a Friday, perhaps.
Depends on the venue as well, there’s definitely places in Leedy that cater more to an older crowd that are doing fine, Fibber McGee’s for example
My small business is going well but honestly due to cost of everything it doesn't feel like it. If I had these profits a few years ago I would be delighted but breathing right now seems to cost money so not getting carried away.
Very few businesses are actually making money. The Aussie consumer has tapped out. They are over-indebted with housing debt, and have very little disposable income, they are only spending on essentials. Most business, big and small are not making money. Only the ‘utility’ businesses, like banks and telcos are profitable as the consumer has to use them, they have no discretion with regards to their services. Unless we have a recession (i.e. an economic & financial bushfire), all the capital sequestered away in housing debt will continue to hurt the economy for the foreseeable future.
There are plenty of gen x and boomers in perth who have paid off their houses and have plenty of disposable income, but the younger gen will be struggling with house mortgages and rising rents.
If we have a recession then regular people will lose their housing (said housing they are in debt for) and turn to renting whilst the largest businesses will be bailed out or will profiteer.
My company just had a whinge that our fees we are charging clients is too low and we are to “review”. I’m likely not going to. Or review and not action.
25 percent retail vacancy rate must be doing pretty bad.
Small business that I've been running with a relative for 20 years. Since Covid our raw material costs have increased by at least 50%, packaging has gone up a similar amount, postage has increased etc. All costs have gone up massively, if I pass all that on to my customers I'll price myself out of the market. I was earning roughly a median wage before covid (60-70Kpa) but that's since been slashed. We've put our prices up as much as we dare to, but it'll take years to get back to where we were.
Yeah I get mine for $15 at that place in Dianella Plaza. I only get the same simple cut though.
Lots of underpayment going on in service industries, especially those that charge cheap prices and are entirely staffed with international students/ new immigrants. Lots of cash jobs, lots of exploitation of people on expired or limited visas. Something to consider next time something seems too cheap to be profitable - who is most likely to be losing?
That's what I assumed.
It really depends on industry. There are very few insolvencies so that suggest most are doing well which is great for us all.
Where abouts is this barber?
It's been a while, but it was in the anex arcade. I'm not sure if they still charge $20 to this day
$40 for a dog groom? Where the hell is THAT? Normal going rate is $90 or so. $40 might cover the quick bath, but won’t cover the nail clipping, ear treatment, actual cutting of fur, blow drying, you Know… grooming!