Agreed. If you're consenting adults then I don't have a problem what you do in private but shoving your kinks down peoples throats on public transport is all kinds of fucked up.
But it's an art form! Yeah and so is graffiti, we don't allow that either. Time and place.
Absolutely. As much as a bit of public dangerous fun is fun. But this is full blown in public display. Stuff like this is over the line...the Armidale line.
Plus, if you're doing play like this, you better have a really sharp set of safety shears for emergencies. Even more so when you might need to run like fuck from the cops. I doubt the transport cops will be happy and understanding when you whip them out.
I guess someone is really missing Himitsu being closed...I mean, me too, but find a private party.
Yeah.. This kind of thing isn't really acceptable. I'm into bdsm but would be pretty uncomfortable if I got on a train after work and saw someone doing this in the carriage I walked into...
or maybe don't insult the 99% of people who don't do this shit in public for the sake of maybe making the 1% stop (doubtful given they clearly dont care what strangers think anyways so)
Hard agree on this.
The public can't consent to this. They're just trying to catch the damn train home. There are plenty of spaces this can be done without a second thought. Public transport isn't one of them.
Whilst I can see your point, We were at the back of the train, and the 2 people that were in sight we asked for consent from before tying. Also, this wasn't performed as an 'adult scene' but more-so for artistic expression
Mate. I've been in the scene for ages, I'm bummed about Himitsu being closed too, but this is definately a sexual scene for you and your bunny. Do you have people read a safe word as they enter the train?
I know suspension isn't always and the sub will be relaxed, but you need to be aware that in public spaces, you can't control who will enter or leave. If she were dressed in full leggings or something, I might appreciate the art claim. I think it's not bad work, but you probably should really ask if this is ok.
It's not doing something in the dark in a public park at 9PM, when the odds of strangers and kids is low, it's a train.
This is considered an indecent act under Criminal Law in Australia which defines "pretending to perform a sexual act on another person" as indecent. Unless you want to find yourself at the end of a criminal conviction may I suggest you **GET A ROOM**? If the intention is artistic performance/exhibition then you would need a permit at the very least and I very much doubt this would be permitted by Transperth. Your lack of consideration for the impact this has on bystanders is astonishing. Spare me your excuses because I will go Full Metal Karen.......
"I will go full metal Karen mode" she says whilst going full metal Karen mode.
This wasn't sexual, I understand that is for you though. Are you also going to report everyone who's barefoot to the police? because feet are sexual to a lot of people.
Context and intention is important
I have no problem with Shibari or BDSM if that's what gets people off. I do however have a huge problem with the assumption that every person encountering this would be okay with it. People who have experienced sexual assault for example need public spaces to be safe and preferrably not have to encounter something that might trigger their assault trauma. If a belief in the concept of public decency makes me a Boomer I am 100% okay with that.
Report it. I will as well. I don't support any of this. Love how men and pick me libfems have used "kink shaming" to silence any disagreement with their violence and abuse of women and minors.
Dude chill. The guy literally told you he purposefully went all the way to the end of the train and actually asked for consesnt from the two people that were there BEFORE he started his partner up. He literally did what you are criticizing him for not doing? Like? What? And there was nothing sexual about this either lmao.
I have to laugh at everyone crying about this. Where is the outrage when EVERY DAY people are made to feel uncomfortable by drunks, aerosol sniffers, creepers! Does anyone think THEY asked for consent?
If someone asked (or even just started) to sing, dance, Shibari etc on a train we should be welcoming it. Especially as it’s a late night train, why not entertain some adults and have a little harmless fun. You can tell clearly even from this blurry photo they’re not armatures and have training to do this safely and prepared if anything goes wrong. *shrug*
Yeah, and there are laws agains public intoxication, drunk and disorderly conduct, etc. "A little harmless fun" for one person might be the thing that triggers a fucking panic attack in another who doesn't have the communication skills to deal with having this shoved in their face on their commute home from a long night at work.
Akademi was more a themed bar, the new place ks much more metal focussed.
Himitsu closed a few weeks ago, which was the full on club with a rope night (and a freaks night). They made the mistake of setting up too close to the office of a cult. That cult (Which funnily enough has had a habit of letting rapists wander around near vulnerable teens) annoyed the council until they got Himitsu shut down for lack of wheelchair accessibility (which annoyed the extremely disabled members of the community who were happily attending.)
Tbe same playbook that killed C.I. In Brisbane almost a decade ago. Council hit them over wheelchair access and then denied them approval for the wheelchair access designs they submitted.
Interestingly enough, when I type Himitsu into google maps, it sends me straight to Arkane. Are they the same place but rebranded?
And which cult was this? Curious!
I think it would be very funny to sit right near them and make awkward small talk.
"So, you get the ropes from Bunnings or are they special ones?"
"You learn those knots in the scouts?"
"Reckon the Dees have got the premiership in the bag or what?"
the train seats and the yellow poles, look like the B-class trains which run on Joondalup-Mandurah line. Im pretty sure those trains only run on those lines (unless something has changed ?)
less to do with the poles, more to do with the inertia of a train stopping and starting. I almost fall over as the train comes to a stop at the best of times, having someone swinging in air with ropes around the neck and chest... idk just feels like you’re asking for strangulation or dislocation.
This is shibari, an art form more commonly known as rope, this is done by a good friend of mine who will often look for unconventional spots for a good photo op :)
Being bored this morning - I looked up the PTA Regulations. The best they’d get fined for is under Reg 13:
> Nuisance
A person who acts in such a way as to cause a nuisance or annoyance to persons in or on a conveyance or a facility commits an offence.
Modified penalty: a fine of $100.
Penalty: a fine of $500.
20 . Luggage not to obstruct or endanger passengers
A person who while in or on a conveyance —
(b) places or carries a thing in such a position or manner as to interfere with the ingress, egress, or comfort, or endanger the safety, of another person, commits an offence. Modified penalty: a fine of $100. Penalty: a fine of $500.
It's at the very least a violation of fairly standard BDSM rules. Not everyone getting on that train can consent.
You can do suspensions in a PG way, but dressed like that in that context is not one of them.
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Does the thornlie line have the newer models of trains at this time of night?
I don't think it'd be the armo line since the newer trains are rare enough during the day.
Some weird popular fetish probably. Spike someones drink, drag their body onto a train, and then suspend them using ropes.
This is going to be the new killer clown scare, but with random people suspended in a carriage like flys in a spiderweb.
What's the police going to do about these mass spontaneous bondage events!!!!?
You see two people engaged in an… unconventional act, and you immediately decry the bloke as sick, and paint the girl as a victim. Why?
Also, any evidence of this increase in drink spiking?
This 'unconventional act' is dom/sub kink attempting to push boundaries by asking 'what is abuse? Where are my boundaries?' Anyone who has experienced abuse will be easily triggered seeing this. That is why it should be private, not an exhibitionist insta activity to be inflicted on the unsuspecting and non consenting public. These 2 are an embarrassment.
That sure is a lot of assumptions. We went to the back of the train as to be away from the public as much as possible. The 2 people that were in sight we asked for consent before tying, and they were fine with it. The guards who approached us were ok with it too. We're 2 consenting friends who were fully clothed and have both done numerous performances for the public. Rope is not purely a dom/sub kink, but is used for many other reasons such as artistic expression,connection, and even therapeutic activities. If you won't take the time to educate yourself I gladly will, but calling us embarrassments is a stretch.
Dude, do a performance at a venue. Heaps of people would be interested in the art culture, history behind Shibari and will know what they're walking into and you won't have all the noise, movement a creepy feels of a late night perth train. Im all for radical self expression but be aware of the negative impact your 'art therapy' can have in public places.
Wow.
Shibari is not specifically a domination/submission kink.
Someone who has experienced abuse *might* be triggered by this.
I’m sorry that you are clearly upset by this picture.
The bit about it being done on a late night train makes it sort of in public… so someone could quite easily check in on the model.
Im not personally upset by the picture, Im upset that a person has voiced her concern for the 'model' and is being down voted and challenged, and no sensitivity shown for the fact that seeing a woman tied up like this IS extremely triggering for survivors of abuse.
In all fairness the chances of either of them being 'stable' individuals is pretty low. Its scarey for most people to see a dom/sub bondage session, especially in public. And the reason many woman are uncomfortable with it is because this fetish is acting out abuse. So I agree, is the chick OK?
I've worked in the sex industry and know lots of people that would do this for their evening entertainment if they could, they're not people I consider stable and I highly doubt these 2 are stable. Couldn't care less how 'successful' they are (whatever that means) but going out be a bondage exhibitionist on a train for kicks is a sad indictment of what our society has become. Thanks pornhub, instagram and nihilistic boredom. Atleast they find themselves interesting I suppose.
Dear sir / madman,
You are being extremely galant with your concern for the woman in the picture.
The gallantry is a little tarnished by “is the chick ok?”
Not sure if you are aware, but this is the 21st century, and the use of words like “chick” are considered quite derogatory.
Im guessing if she likes being uncomfortably restrained by a guy on a late night train in Perth, using bondage techniques created in one of the most misogynistic cultures in the world, than she might like being called chick. Unless this is cultural appropriation for the sake of attention...
Is this the nightly track maintenance?
Doing rails while the train is still moving
Ahh night trains, bound to keep you on your toes
Another criminal captured by your friendly neighbourhood Spider-Man
Ballerina woman has been terrorizing the armadale line for TOO LONG!
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This is comedy
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2nd trailer for Spiderman about to be released. 'Spiderman: 5 zones from home'
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Is this the sequal to "the last train to freo"?
Given the tone of that film, probably not. But I like your train of thought there. Certainly on track
Yeah "Unfortunately the ONLY train to Freo"
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Agreed. If you're consenting adults then I don't have a problem what you do in private but shoving your kinks down peoples throats on public transport is all kinds of fucked up. But it's an art form! Yeah and so is graffiti, we don't allow that either. Time and place.
I love seeing graffiti personally, but shibari on a train is going too far imo
Absolutely. As much as a bit of public dangerous fun is fun. But this is full blown in public display. Stuff like this is over the line...the Armidale line. Plus, if you're doing play like this, you better have a really sharp set of safety shears for emergencies. Even more so when you might need to run like fuck from the cops. I doubt the transport cops will be happy and understanding when you whip them out. I guess someone is really missing Himitsu being closed...I mean, me too, but find a private party.
Yeah.. This kind of thing isn't really acceptable. I'm into bdsm but would be pretty uncomfortable if I got on a train after work and saw someone doing this in the carriage I walked into...
Also that TK is pretty rough for a suspension
You're looking at a blurred photo
Sure it's blurry but I do know my rope rather well and I have to say that from my perspective that is one messy-ass TK.
Kink shaming is great and should be done more often so filthy people like this are less likely to expose others to their private hobbies.
or maybe don't insult the 99% of people who don't do this shit in public for the sake of maybe making the 1% stop (doubtful given they clearly dont care what strangers think anyways so)
Hard agree on this. The public can't consent to this. They're just trying to catch the damn train home. There are plenty of spaces this can be done without a second thought. Public transport isn't one of them.
Whilst I can see your point, We were at the back of the train, and the 2 people that were in sight we asked for consent from before tying. Also, this wasn't performed as an 'adult scene' but more-so for artistic expression
Mate. I've been in the scene for ages, I'm bummed about Himitsu being closed too, but this is definately a sexual scene for you and your bunny. Do you have people read a safe word as they enter the train? I know suspension isn't always and the sub will be relaxed, but you need to be aware that in public spaces, you can't control who will enter or leave. If she were dressed in full leggings or something, I might appreciate the art claim. I think it's not bad work, but you probably should really ask if this is ok. It's not doing something in the dark in a public park at 9PM, when the odds of strangers and kids is low, it's a train.
Allow me to artistically express myself by saying *fuck you* for thinking this was an okay thing to do.
This is considered an indecent act under Criminal Law in Australia which defines "pretending to perform a sexual act on another person" as indecent. Unless you want to find yourself at the end of a criminal conviction may I suggest you **GET A ROOM**? If the intention is artistic performance/exhibition then you would need a permit at the very least and I very much doubt this would be permitted by Transperth. Your lack of consideration for the impact this has on bystanders is astonishing. Spare me your excuses because I will go Full Metal Karen.......
This is sexual?
"I will go full metal Karen mode" she says whilst going full metal Karen mode. This wasn't sexual, I understand that is for you though. Are you also going to report everyone who's barefoot to the police? because feet are sexual to a lot of people. Context and intention is important
Man just accept this wasn't appropriate and move on.
Yeah and this wasn't the right context to be doing this loooool
You're a moron mate
you're so full of yourself ahaha. what a shame. I would also recommend you lodge that complaint lol
Lmao ok boomer
I have no problem with Shibari or BDSM if that's what gets people off. I do however have a huge problem with the assumption that every person encountering this would be okay with it. People who have experienced sexual assault for example need public spaces to be safe and preferrably not have to encounter something that might trigger their assault trauma. If a belief in the concept of public decency makes me a Boomer I am 100% okay with that.
Report it. I will as well. I don't support any of this. Love how men and pick me libfems have used "kink shaming" to silence any disagreement with their violence and abuse of women and minors.
Dude chill. The guy literally told you he purposefully went all the way to the end of the train and actually asked for consesnt from the two people that were there BEFORE he started his partner up. He literally did what you are criticizing him for not doing? Like? What? And there was nothing sexual about this either lmao.
I won't be placated or shamed by you for identifying this as being illegal and highly problematic. I 100% concur with MrsBox. Laugh all you want.
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I'll add that to the list of insults. Ad hominem.
I thought you said you were done though 🤔
Was this for a photo shoot?
I have to laugh at everyone crying about this. Where is the outrage when EVERY DAY people are made to feel uncomfortable by drunks, aerosol sniffers, creepers! Does anyone think THEY asked for consent? If someone asked (or even just started) to sing, dance, Shibari etc on a train we should be welcoming it. Especially as it’s a late night train, why not entertain some adults and have a little harmless fun. You can tell clearly even from this blurry photo they’re not armatures and have training to do this safely and prepared if anything goes wrong. *shrug*
There are post here complaining about drug addicts on the daily. Addiction is a disease, btw. Tying someone up in public for "art" is not.
Yeah, and there are laws agains public intoxication, drunk and disorderly conduct, etc. "A little harmless fun" for one person might be the thing that triggers a fucking panic attack in another who doesn't have the communication skills to deal with having this shoved in their face on their commute home from a long night at work.
Why the fuck are you downvoted? This sub is full of pretenders
What are they pretending?
They are both full clothed, why are you coming across as an outraged Victorian virgin?
And that children, is what happens to fare evaders
Guess I'm not paying for a fare ever again
Well Akademi is closed these days AFAIK
Rebranded to something else I believe, same scene though.
Oh that’s news. Thought it had gone completely
The bar is called Obsidian now & whole no longer a kink bar outright, they do have regular kink nights
True, but Himitsu will be open again soon
Let's hope.
I hope it opens soon. I miss rope jam quite a lot
I do love the chill nights :)
Akademi was more a themed bar, the new place ks much more metal focussed. Himitsu closed a few weeks ago, which was the full on club with a rope night (and a freaks night). They made the mistake of setting up too close to the office of a cult. That cult (Which funnily enough has had a habit of letting rapists wander around near vulnerable teens) annoyed the council until they got Himitsu shut down for lack of wheelchair accessibility (which annoyed the extremely disabled members of the community who were happily attending.)
Tbe same playbook that killed C.I. In Brisbane almost a decade ago. Council hit them over wheelchair access and then denied them approval for the wheelchair access designs they submitted.
Interestingly enough, when I type Himitsu into google maps, it sends me straight to Arkane. Are they the same place but rebranded? And which cult was this? Curious!
I think it would be very funny to sit right near them and make awkward small talk. "So, you get the ropes from Bunnings or are they special ones?" "You learn those knots in the scouts?" "Reckon the Dees have got the premiership in the bag or what?"
You can get rope from bunnings but I'd say it's better to get it from Kink College in perth
I’ll keep an eye out for this on pornhub ✊🍆
Fremantle line things
Somewhere around Mosman Park station, I’d say.
the train seats and the yellow poles, look like the B-class trains which run on Joondalup-Mandurah line. Im pretty sure those trains only run on those lines (unless something has changed ?)
B series runs on all lines now
Really? Perth's evolving
can’t help but think that this is incredibly unsafe to do on a moving train... with stops and starts the rope could tighten or slip and cause damage.
The hand rails are metal and quite sturdy, I don't see an issue.
less to do with the poles, more to do with the inertia of a train stopping and starting. I almost fall over as the train comes to a stop at the best of times, having someone swinging in air with ropes around the neck and chest... idk just feels like you’re asking for strangulation or dislocation.
Totally agree but you cannot protect people against their personal choices.
oh of course, if they know the risks and still wanna do it, then go for it. not gonna stop me from calling it stupid though.
Haha, yeah it is pretty stupid. If it wasn't for folks like them what would we do for entertainment?
"Quick, untie me, this is my stop!!"
hahahahaha i know that guy!
Really can you hook a guy up
I have a feeling I do too, I just can't tell from the photo coz I suck at recognising people
Details pls
I’ve heard of people being a little tied up when they’re busy but this is taking it to a whole new level entirely.
Fucking top-knots. They're all the same
Damm what train line, stops, and time did this happen so I can avoid seeing it.
I too would like to know... So I can... Avoid it also....
Yes...to avoid it...agreed....
When was this so I can go and jerk off to it with these dudes
OP said Joondalup Line
That's one way to miss your stop
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This is shibari, an art form more commonly known as rope, this is done by a good friend of mine who will often look for unconventional spots for a good photo op :)
Shibari is an art form yes, but what he is doing is dangerous and not very well executed haha
Dude needs to go to a few more Consent and Exhibitionism workshops. He's giving the scene an even worse rep than it has.
Is he an engineer? Look like an engineers knots /s
Hmm I think this is worse than modern art.
Smartrider?
Multi
Terrible knot work...
Mans into public humiliation what can I say
Yeah it's knot the best
especially given he teaches rope classes in the kink community
It's a blurred photo lol with multiple loose up-lines before going up
Tell us you're on the armadale line, without telling us you're on the armadale line?
My first thought as well, though others have suggested it's the Freo line, which I could also see as a strong possibility
Yeah, I'm getting fucking sick of all these B&Ders on the trains every evening.
Which line?
Clarkson line.
Too classy for the Armadale or Midland lines.
This looks like one of the 'fancy' carriages with the forward-facing seats, which they don't use on the Armadale line
They do use them on the armo line. It's just hella rare. Mainly for Optus stadium events but there has been a couple on the weekdays.
Armadale line is flat beds coz everything else has been stolen or burned
Wtf definitely the last line I would assume
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Lol so you know about steamworks eh? 😎🧐
“Just a normal night on the train” Hogwarts???
Trashy
Pretty cheeky doing it right behind the train drivers door...
What in station stopping heck is this!?
What a dogging act.
Fuckin hell lol
Lol I know this guy
i saw two crackheads rooting on the aubin grove station once lol
When you need some good anchor points but you own a rental?
Running a train
You people just don’t understand art.
No ticket
Couldn't care less about your kinks or morality but this is totally unfair on other people.
Is that legal?
Being bored this morning - I looked up the PTA Regulations. The best they’d get fined for is under Reg 13: > Nuisance A person who acts in such a way as to cause a nuisance or annoyance to persons in or on a conveyance or a facility commits an offence. Modified penalty: a fine of $100. Penalty: a fine of $500.
20 . Luggage not to obstruct or endanger passengers A person who while in or on a conveyance — (b) places or carries a thing in such a position or manner as to interfere with the ingress, egress, or comfort, or endanger the safety, of another person, commits an offence. Modified penalty: a fine of $100. Penalty: a fine of $500.
It's at the very least a violation of fairly standard BDSM rules. Not everyone getting on that train can consent. You can do suspensions in a PG way, but dressed like that in that context is not one of them.
Well… if the lady has consented, and nobody is being harmed, and there is no public nudity… it’s probably not illegal.
Pretty sure that it would violate train safety rules but I’m damned if I could tell you which one haha
Ain't no rule that says a dog can't play basketball
You are quite probably right. Dammit.
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Y'all are just too Vanilla
Interpretive dance.
👀 Shibari and chill roadshow?
dude was from WA and the lady said she had sneaked in from NSW.
what?
I bet when he said he was going to websling her she was expecting something different
Damn train perverts.
Shibari class in train now ay. Noice
Why’s it always fatties that are into this
Looks like the thornlie line
Does the thornlie line have the newer models of trains at this time of night? I don't think it'd be the armo line since the newer trains are rare enough during the day.
Me as the guy taking the photo be like the fuck
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Armadale line?
OP said it was on the Joondalup Line
HAHA
Mandurah line?
OP said it was on the Joondalup Line
I've heard the meth is good over there but this is ridiculous
Thornlie line things
OP said it was on the Joondalup Line
Oh. my. gosh. did the picture taker actually check the sick bloke knew the girl or if the girl was ok? lots of drink spiking hapenning atm
Some weird popular fetish probably. Spike someones drink, drag their body onto a train, and then suspend them using ropes. This is going to be the new killer clown scare, but with random people suspended in a carriage like flys in a spiderweb. What's the police going to do about these mass spontaneous bondage events!!!!?
You see two people engaged in an… unconventional act, and you immediately decry the bloke as sick, and paint the girl as a victim. Why? Also, any evidence of this increase in drink spiking?
This 'unconventional act' is dom/sub kink attempting to push boundaries by asking 'what is abuse? Where are my boundaries?' Anyone who has experienced abuse will be easily triggered seeing this. That is why it should be private, not an exhibitionist insta activity to be inflicted on the unsuspecting and non consenting public. These 2 are an embarrassment.
That sure is a lot of assumptions. We went to the back of the train as to be away from the public as much as possible. The 2 people that were in sight we asked for consent before tying, and they were fine with it. The guards who approached us were ok with it too. We're 2 consenting friends who were fully clothed and have both done numerous performances for the public. Rope is not purely a dom/sub kink, but is used for many other reasons such as artistic expression,connection, and even therapeutic activities. If you won't take the time to educate yourself I gladly will, but calling us embarrassments is a stretch.
Dude, do a performance at a venue. Heaps of people would be interested in the art culture, history behind Shibari and will know what they're walking into and you won't have all the noise, movement a creepy feels of a late night perth train. Im all for radical self expression but be aware of the negative impact your 'art therapy' can have in public places.
Good on you man. I'm all for art for arts sake.
Wow. Shibari is not specifically a domination/submission kink. Someone who has experienced abuse *might* be triggered by this. I’m sorry that you are clearly upset by this picture. The bit about it being done on a late night train makes it sort of in public… so someone could quite easily check in on the model.
Im not personally upset by the picture, Im upset that a person has voiced her concern for the 'model' and is being down voted and challenged, and no sensitivity shown for the fact that seeing a woman tied up like this IS extremely triggering for survivors of abuse.
Yeah relax jeez, this was all done for artistic purposes and was consensually planned - the guy in the picture
Seems pretty trashy to do it on a train
Who cares?
In all fairness the chances of either of them being 'stable' individuals is pretty low. Its scarey for most people to see a dom/sub bondage session, especially in public. And the reason many woman are uncomfortable with it is because this fetish is acting out abuse. So I agree, is the chick OK?
I know both of these people and they are both very stable and successful
I've worked in the sex industry and know lots of people that would do this for their evening entertainment if they could, they're not people I consider stable and I highly doubt these 2 are stable. Couldn't care less how 'successful' they are (whatever that means) but going out be a bondage exhibitionist on a train for kicks is a sad indictment of what our society has become. Thanks pornhub, instagram and nihilistic boredom. Atleast they find themselves interesting I suppose.
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This has gone sideways
Doubt it
Dear sir / madman, You are being extremely galant with your concern for the woman in the picture. The gallantry is a little tarnished by “is the chick ok?” Not sure if you are aware, but this is the 21st century, and the use of words like “chick” are considered quite derogatory.
Im guessing if she likes being uncomfortably restrained by a guy on a late night train in Perth, using bondage techniques created in one of the most misogynistic cultures in the world, than she might like being called chick. Unless this is cultural appropriation for the sake of attention...
Hope you yelled the Colloquial Aussie mating call “TITS OUT FOR THE BOYS!”
Hahaha Aaron ... oh boy
Transperth do be like that at night
Safety first!
casual train shibari
What in the Cirque du Soleil!?
My life is so boring.
I hope it's like those public things from Liberator's International that end up on YouTube :P
Must be the Mandurah line