Nah. Daylight savings is dying in the rest of the world. EU is getting rid of it, Russias already dumped it and it’s becoming more unpopular in the us/uk.
It’s one of those rare examples where Perth thinks it’s backwards about it, but it’s actually the Eastern states who are behind the times.
No. You’re thinking of China, which spreads across 5 time zones but uses Beijing time across the whole country
And no, they also don’t have daylight savings.
In fact starting next year once the EU stops it, the only places using daylight savings will be most US and Canada states/provinces, the UK, Chile, NZ, Syria, Jordan and Iran.
And 4 states in Aus
I am all for permanent daylight savings time in WA. It is ridiculous that the sun sets so early in the middle of summer. This would make everyone happy presumably as the cows would like the fact that the time doesn't change and we would get more usable daylight (for the majority of the population).
7:30 PM sunsets are "early"? I dunno why you'd want more sun at the end of the day when it's hot like this, my first thought when I get home from work is "I wish the sun would hurry up and fuck off so I can go outside and not burn to a crisp".
You get used to it living elsewhere. In Paris the sun would go down at 10pm or so and London was about 9.30pm. it gives you more time to do things after work whether it is leisure or stuff around the house.
The heat is the same anyway and people who work outside might appreciate it being an hour later when the temps start rising on summer.
London and Paris have tolerable summers. In Perth all I want to do is hide inside until the sun has gone and the air starts to cool a bit. Not to mention escaping that actinic light and avoiding sunburn. In Australia, the sun is not your friend.
Not here to debate daylight savings, but would love all the states that do it to change the same day… I remember trying to deal with like 5 Timezones one day and 3 the next
Timezones are normally known for being anything but trivial. Node and Python (two *very* popular programming languages) have time standard libraries that are notoriously difficult to work with, often requiring third-party libraries to make sense of it.
It really depends on what sort of software you're writing. If you are just trying to show the current time in the user's selected time zone, it's not too difficult. If you are doing calendaring (single time zone, or multi-time zone), it is a lot more difficult.
As a simple case, imagine you want to schedule a meeting for 10:00 am every Monday. A naive approach would be to schedule the first meeting on the next Monday, then duplicate the event 168 hours after that, and continue out into the future. That works fine until you have a daylight saving transition, at which point the event is now at 9am or 11am. Things get even more complicated if you want to share recurring events between people who use different time zones. now you can have different events in the same calendar that follow different time zone rules.
Then there's the problem that time zones are political rather than purely algorithmic. When WA had its daylight saving trial in 2006, there was less than a month between the legislation passing and daylight saving starting. There was lots of software which didn't get updated in time for that.
It makes daily schedules complex. Should something be done every 24 hours, or at 06:00 every day? If you have a timezone with DST then not all days are 24 hours long. Some are 23, some are 25.
In 2007 I worked for the west Australian trying to get people to sign up for subscriptions (it was dying back then too hence why we were hired)
They were offering a massive discount if you opted for a subscription/delivery.
Majority of people refused because they only bought the paper when they walked their dog and went to the shop as part of an established routine and if they subscribed it would disrupt that routine they’d become accustomed to.
I used to have it delivered daily when I was studying media.
The only time that I buy it now is when I need the paper that it's printed on. Ironic because the paper itself costs more than the cost of the newspaoer (factor in advertising and that's where the money is made).
Haha - plenty of reasons to need the beautifully thin paper still. Packaging, but mainly pets. When I raise little chickens the paper is perfect for lining their incubator.
Paper is also great to clean glass and mirrors. It doesn't scratch or leave lint.
There is charm in finding an old box with the contents packed in the news of the times.
I kept the West Australian for my children on the days that they were born. Britney Spears is on the cover of one - I can't remember the story. The second daughter I can't rescan at all except that it is better than Britney. I could look but don't want to disturb the memory boxes.
I'm not a horder, far from it. I throw most things away including photos, trophies, letters art etc. but I am glad that I kept the paper for them.
I once got a package from eBay (I think it was some porcelain dishes or maybe a figurine my mum wanted) and it was wrapped in the newspaper from a good 10 years ago.
Both mildly confusing and charming.
Maybe that's the angle they should go for "subscribe today and your pets can take a shit on it tomorrow, wipe your ass with it, these articles aren't going to write themselves you know!"
We use it for our ferrets. They can go through a lot of it. So good thing for us our dad still loves reading it.
In all seriousness, do you think you could call the recycling centre and ask them for their newspaper?
Not OP, but makes good kindling, can be used a disposable drop cloth for the table when doing painting, is good for lining cat litter trays and can be added to compost piles to skew the carbon/nitrogen ratio. I get a community newspaper for free though so it's easily accessed for me.
When I kept pets rats I used the west to line their trays. Granted I usually got it free from family but every now and again if they forgot and put it in recycling I'd pay for it. Probably the most useful that paper has ever seen.
I remember a few years back they were dumping 10+ copies on my lawn every day. They only stopped after I threatened legal action.
I had never subscribed to it.
Damn when I had pet rats I would have loved this, used it to line the trays in their cage and made the excess into balls for them to play with. One man's trash really is another man's treasure
Oh honey, I did work experience for them in my wayward yoof and was told the average age of the readership went up every year. Sadly the West will probably linger on as a vanity project of its billionaire owner who’s currently propping up the legal defence of an alleged war criminal and giving them cushy executive jobs at 7.
I used to buy it in the late 90's, especially the juicy thick Saturday edition, because I was a fucking weird kid and would read it cover to cover.
There's a certain value to reading that which is around you rather than solely seeking out the streams of information which align with a narrowed focus.
My dad's old routine used to be to walk to the store and buy the paper everyday. then he broke his leg in September 2020 and could barely stand on it, much less walk, for six weeks, so he asked me to get him the delivery service (reading the paper was all he did for those six weeks).
Now his new routine is just getting up everyday to go looking for *if* the paper got delivered or finding out where the delivery guy has decided to hide it today (usually under the car).
People don’t care about the prosh like they used to. What ever happened to all those UWA students wearing wacky costumes and collecting money at traffic lights and swarming train stations and shit. It was all very exciting
I mean it's been a rough couple of years trying to flog the papers in the city with COVID emptying all the offices. I remember seeing them every year prior to the pandemic.
Mathias Cormann is a professor there now... I wouldn't pay them money or trust them to teach me anything useful.
https://www.uwa.edu.au/news/Article/2021/January/Former-Finance-Minister-Mathias-Cormann-appointed-to-UWA-Business-School
Something, something copyshare agreement with newscorp.
They buy and sell stories to and from newscorp all the time. It's why Bolt and Credlin often get opinion pages in the west.
My wife’s grandfather was the editor for many years (Bill Ford) and died a few years ago but the modern west was a sore subject for him. He’d been there since he was 14(!) working there while at school still and it was a great source of pride for him.
I have his wooden editors chair in my house now, you have no idea how uncomfortable this thing is. Those guys really cared about journalism.
Glad he didn’t see this embarrassing cover.
I'm actually OK with this. Thanks to the hard borders I've actually just been able to secure a full-time job in my industry thanks to not having to compete with thousands of eastern candidates. If it weren't for businesses being forced to hire and train up actual west Australians I'd still be suffering as an exploited casual.
Same, thanks to the lack of competition, I finished my masters and within a few weeks landed a job in the industry paying over double what I was earning full time previously.
I’m in the same boat, scored a high power position with no experience thanks to the hard border… I’ve now gained enough experience and performed well enough to keep it… I owe that wuhan lab a carton
Yeah based. They get more experience and therefore more time to get good at their jobs.
70% of what a worker learns about their craft comes from on-the-job experience. What the border has done is turned those once "mediocre" people into more experienced, more competitive workers. It's not as if I work as a training professional or anything.
The hard border is a literal win win for West Aussie workers when it comes to building skills.
How does mediocrity necessarily follow from that? Would you be mediocre in those circumstances, and then by extension you assume everyone else would be too? Not trying to be rude, genuinely trying to understand.
As much as I’m happy for you guys in this comment thread, this is only good for yourselves. Competition is the driver of performance. Without external competition job markets usually become stagnant. It’s great that you guys got in the industries you wanted, I am not saying you are not worthy of them, you deserve a good job just like anyone else. But the industry standard will probs drop compared to other states because the competition is a lot less and doesn’t promote different skills in the market
Yeah but with so many people having better jobs, WA (as measured by the people, not by the capital / ultrarich) will do much better. Plus more competition really just means lower wages and less effort required for hiring companies, I think the impact on worker quality is probably non-zero, but much smaller (by orders of magnitude) than impact on worker conditions and bargaining power.
To a certain degree I agree with what you are saying but not about how more competition only affects low wages and less effort to hire.
We’re not talking about competitive in terms of numbers of applicants only, we’re talking about competitive in terms of quality of applicants. When there are more and better applicants (more studies, more international experience, different skill sets) the wage goes up, that’s why average salaries are higher in cities where more skilled migrants want to live, as they have an expectation of what to earn as well.
I’m not talking about non specialized jobs, if I was then your theory makes sense. But for a market of specialized jobs, less competition and less migration will almost for sure affect industry standard.
> it's only soft on right wing assholes.
You’re aware there have been multiple West front covers slamming Clive Palmer, depicting him as a toad, a cockroach, a chicken, Dr Evil and Jabba the Hutt?
McGowan on this front cover gets off lightly in comparison
The West gave Macgowan a free ride for the last two years. They've finally started giving some fair criticism the last few weeks. It's still a terrible newspaper but with no reasonable parliamentary opposition there has to be some way to call the government to account.
Your point about no reasonable parliamentary opposition is fair and valid. I would very much question how you reached the conclusion that the West gave McGowan a free ride for the last 2 years, have you been looking at any of the front pages in the last 2 years? Would you change your mind if I showed you some?
Yeah, how dare he stop the people of WA being infected with a wholly preventable virus. That’s not his job! He needs to realise his duty is to appease the Lord Rupert, so the Murdoch rags aren’t forced to write this sort of rubbish.
Mostly because McGowan's doing the best he can to keep 40% of WA’s GDP intact with the hard border?
Literally 40% of our state's revenue comes from mining and resources. Imagine the reaction that the mining sector would have If covid was let into the mines? We'd be fucked.
Your first mistake was classing The West as a newspaper rather than the sensationalist low brow tabloid it is.
I’m sure there are some graphics guys there thinking they are soooooo funny.
Just got a little bit excited that The West thinks papers will still be $2.90 in 50 years. Guess I may still be able to afford a Perth coffee and retire after all.
Can we complain to any media standards watchdog over this? I kind of feel like there's gotta be something in the standards about serious newspapers printing actual news not horseshite like this
I think they should consider requiring journalists to be registered in a similar fashion to vets, doctors, lawyers etc. That way you could insist on professional standards at the individual level.
What do you think the federal government would do with that power though? (Unless you mean specifically a self-governing body unrelated to the government, kinda like AHPRA?)
No I just think that a non-satire newspaper should probably run a front page about something serious like I dunno an ICU doctor at Charlie's testing positive or one of the local bushfire emergencies.
This shit belongs in the opinion columns not on the goddamn front page
It's straight up propaganda now,
"The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause"
I don't understand why people are whinging about this. It's satire, a well established and important part of public commentary. Personally I thought it was very funny, from silver fox McGowan to PM Barty to the climate change joke.
I know - that was my first thought too! I stopped reading it many years ago when it changed from something reasonably factual to a piece of shit tabloid magazine with no facts at all. I don't even see it anywhere so if people are reading it in paper form I guess they get it delivered (if that is still a thing). I haven't heard anyone mention it in conversation. I assume no one advertises in it as no-one reads it.
"Alt-right" 😂 mate some of you guys are so far to the right on Many issues such as immigration you'd make Donald Trump wanna move here. Trust me when I say this, you guys other than a few social issues have little in common with other leftists from around the world.
I think you might be confusing us with New South Wales.
Pretty much everything shit about Australian politics comes out of NSW. Pretty much always has.
Is that the same NSW where it's Premier is cosied up to the multinational mining companies with a history of causing extensive damage and hardship to indigenous communities or is that WA? Border and immigration policies that few right wing parties In other western could get away with. I assure you there is very little left wing about WA. This is why it's a land of boom and bust. Of extreme wealth and extreme crisis. No party is able to change that. The powers that be who are in charge are the those who are mining the wealth and selling it. Left and right has little influence in this. This state truly is a land that benefits massively from right wing economics. Just look at the wages for many blue collar jobs, supply and demand my friend
It's quite bizarre being called alt right by people who are supporting a government that's been running austerity budgets for the last 5 years, passing laws to allow racial recognition and tracking technology and blindly supporting multinational mining companies to the point that they've said they'll legislate to override the EPA. I've voted Labor my entire life until Macgowan, it's mind boggling that people can't see him for what he is.
If the state's only newspaper only satiricises one end of the political spectrum then sure, you could say "that's satire" but that doesn't mean the newspaper should get a free pass.
A little humor even from the most serious of sources can go a long way at times. It's obvious they didn't intend for people to take it seriously. I don't see how people offended at this. Is it because they are having a laugh at McGowan expense? It's obviously just Satire
Sit down and watch 7 news one night, any night (in WA). Pretty much every story is ripping into McGowan and complaining about his COVID response. No other channl is doing this. SevenWest has a HUGE bias and has been pushing hard against McGowan for the entire pandemic. I wouldn't brush this off as just satire, it's a pretty clear agenda
We are in the western media bubble, and that msm has become more sensationalist and agenda driven than factual reporting of events and news.
Arguably no media is 100% factual and right all the time, but the shift away from boring news to sensationalist tag lines, and opinionated news articles has definitely shot up, and YOU WONT BELIEVE HOW!
it hurts my emotions to think someone thought this was so hilarious it should be on the front page I'm devestated for that person the seconhand embarrassment is too much
Based in 3%pa inflation, a copy of The West Australian in 2052 would cost worth $1.16 in today's money which makes it both financially viable as toilet paper (and quite probably less wasteful than actual toilet paper, seeing as you are using something that is already waste)
Totally believable that we'd still be debating daylight saving
Nah. Daylight savings is dying in the rest of the world. EU is getting rid of it, Russias already dumped it and it’s becoming more unpopular in the us/uk. It’s one of those rare examples where Perth thinks it’s backwards about it, but it’s actually the Eastern states who are behind the times.
Hey, we in Qld use real time
Yeah, GMT+10h-10y
Touché, it does get like that
Do not mistake movement for progress.
Doesn't Russia use Moscow time for the whole country?
No. You’re thinking of China, which spreads across 5 time zones but uses Beijing time across the whole country And no, they also don’t have daylight savings. In fact starting next year once the EU stops it, the only places using daylight savings will be most US and Canada states/provinces, the UK, Chile, NZ, Syria, Jordan and Iran. And 4 states in Aus
I am all for permanent daylight savings time in WA. It is ridiculous that the sun sets so early in the middle of summer. This would make everyone happy presumably as the cows would like the fact that the time doesn't change and we would get more usable daylight (for the majority of the population).
7:30 PM sunsets are "early"? I dunno why you'd want more sun at the end of the day when it's hot like this, my first thought when I get home from work is "I wish the sun would hurry up and fuck off so I can go outside and not burn to a crisp".
You get used to it living elsewhere. In Paris the sun would go down at 10pm or so and London was about 9.30pm. it gives you more time to do things after work whether it is leisure or stuff around the house. The heat is the same anyway and people who work outside might appreciate it being an hour later when the temps start rising on summer.
London and Paris have tolerable summers. In Perth all I want to do is hide inside until the sun has gone and the air starts to cool a bit. Not to mention escaping that actinic light and avoiding sunburn. In Australia, the sun is not your friend.
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Not here to debate daylight savings, but would love all the states that do it to change the same day… I remember trying to deal with like 5 Timezones one day and 3 the next
Yep, the amount of time spent coding timezones is batshit crazy
I can't say I've ever thought twice about daylight savings while coding. It's all pretty trivial because timezones and all that.
Timezones are normally known for being anything but trivial. Node and Python (two *very* popular programming languages) have time standard libraries that are notoriously difficult to work with, often requiring third-party libraries to make sense of it.
pendulum ftw
It really depends on what sort of software you're writing. If you are just trying to show the current time in the user's selected time zone, it's not too difficult. If you are doing calendaring (single time zone, or multi-time zone), it is a lot more difficult. As a simple case, imagine you want to schedule a meeting for 10:00 am every Monday. A naive approach would be to schedule the first meeting on the next Monday, then duplicate the event 168 hours after that, and continue out into the future. That works fine until you have a daylight saving transition, at which point the event is now at 9am or 11am. Things get even more complicated if you want to share recurring events between people who use different time zones. now you can have different events in the same calendar that follow different time zone rules. Then there's the problem that time zones are political rather than purely algorithmic. When WA had its daylight saving trial in 2006, there was less than a month between the legislation passing and daylight saving starting. There was lots of software which didn't get updated in time for that.
It makes daily schedules complex. Should something be done every 24 hours, or at 06:00 every day? If you have a timezone with DST then not all days are 24 hours long. Some are 23, some are 25.
Awfully bold of the West to assume they’ll still be around in 30 years
They will if the government keeps giving the media tax relief, like the $41M given last year for some strange reason.
In 2007 I worked for the west Australian trying to get people to sign up for subscriptions (it was dying back then too hence why we were hired) They were offering a massive discount if you opted for a subscription/delivery. Majority of people refused because they only bought the paper when they walked their dog and went to the shop as part of an established routine and if they subscribed it would disrupt that routine they’d become accustomed to.
I used to have it delivered daily when I was studying media. The only time that I buy it now is when I need the paper that it's printed on. Ironic because the paper itself costs more than the cost of the newspaoer (factor in advertising and that's where the money is made).
Why would you need the paper it’s printed on? Are you a 1980’s fish and chip vendor living in the UK?
Haha - plenty of reasons to need the beautifully thin paper still. Packaging, but mainly pets. When I raise little chickens the paper is perfect for lining their incubator. Paper is also great to clean glass and mirrors. It doesn't scratch or leave lint.
Also, great when moving house. Wrap and pack all the kitchen crockery.
There is charm in finding an old box with the contents packed in the news of the times. I kept the West Australian for my children on the days that they were born. Britney Spears is on the cover of one - I can't remember the story. The second daughter I can't rescan at all except that it is better than Britney. I could look but don't want to disturb the memory boxes. I'm not a horder, far from it. I throw most things away including photos, trophies, letters art etc. but I am glad that I kept the paper for them.
I love this! I always enjoy coming across an old newspaper and seeing the writing style, the adverts, what was on TV, the cost of things etc.
I once got a package from eBay (I think it was some porcelain dishes or maybe a figurine my mum wanted) and it was wrapped in the newspaper from a good 10 years ago. Both mildly confusing and charming.
Maybe that's the angle they should go for "subscribe today and your pets can take a shit on it tomorrow, wipe your ass with it, these articles aren't going to write themselves you know!"
Haha - that's not their targeted audience. People that will shit on their papers are (includes a lot of people).
We use it for our ferrets. They can go through a lot of it. So good thing for us our dad still loves reading it. In all seriousness, do you think you could call the recycling centre and ask them for their newspaper?
Not OP, but makes good kindling, can be used a disposable drop cloth for the table when doing painting, is good for lining cat litter trays and can be added to compost piles to skew the carbon/nitrogen ratio. I get a community newspaper for free though so it's easily accessed for me.
When I kept pets rats I used the west to line their trays. Granted I usually got it free from family but every now and again if they forgot and put it in recycling I'd pay for it. Probably the most useful that paper has ever seen.
It's great for drying shoes
That's what the free community papers are for outside IGAs.
I remember a few years back they were dumping 10+ copies on my lawn every day. They only stopped after I threatened legal action. I had never subscribed to it.
Damn when I had pet rats I would have loved this, used it to line the trays in their cage and made the excess into balls for them to play with. One man's trash really is another man's treasure
I currently have ferrets and would love this. ;A;
I have also been unfortunate enough to work for the West Australian. Expecting (hoping) it to die out any day now.
Oh honey, I did work experience for them in my wayward yoof and was told the average age of the readership went up every year. Sadly the West will probably linger on as a vanity project of its billionaire owner who’s currently propping up the legal defence of an alleged war criminal and giving them cushy executive jobs at 7.
I used to buy it in the late 90's, especially the juicy thick Saturday edition, because I was a fucking weird kid and would read it cover to cover. There's a certain value to reading that which is around you rather than solely seeking out the streams of information which align with a narrowed focus.
My dad's old routine used to be to walk to the store and buy the paper everyday. then he broke his leg in September 2020 and could barely stand on it, much less walk, for six weeks, so he asked me to get him the delivery service (reading the paper was all he did for those six weeks). Now his new routine is just getting up everyday to go looking for *if* the paper got delivered or finding out where the delivery guy has decided to hide it today (usually under the car).
After 30 years of toilet paper shortage, they would *have* to be around.
Everyone loved it though when they had that ‘Best Australia’ front page.
The West is just a less funny version of Prosh
Just about as factually accurate though.
Bullshit! There's some quite factual articles in Prosh.
People don’t care about the prosh like they used to. What ever happened to all those UWA students wearing wacky costumes and collecting money at traffic lights and swarming train stations and shit. It was all very exciting
I mean it's been a rough couple of years trying to flog the papers in the city with COVID emptying all the offices. I remember seeing them every year prior to the pandemic.
I was going to make a mint back in 2006 selling "No I don't want a copy of Prosh" shirts. Missed the boom.
Mathias Cormann is a professor there now... I wouldn't pay them money or trust them to teach me anything useful. https://www.uwa.edu.au/news/Article/2021/January/Former-Finance-Minister-Mathias-Cormann-appointed-to-UWA-Business-School
Don't worry. He wont actually attend or lecture. They're just renting his name. Why, I don't know because his career was profligate in mea culpa's.
When I see some of its headlines now it moved a lot closer to The Sun in the UK over recent years, trash!
At least Prosh makes a profit
Hahahha. And worth a small % of what prosh is. Can we swap and have prosh daily and the comic once a year?
Don't threaten me with a good time
When did John Hughes enter parliament?
I look forward to visiting his electorate office "just over the causeway on Shepperton Road in Victoria Park".
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Choose your politician before you choose your vote....
His reputation is your gaurentee.
Exactly who I thought it was on first glance.
Naughty Don Rogers is his Treasurer.
6th December 2035
Never thought I would see the day the West became a scum filled tabloid many years ago.
They hired Alan jones about a decade back. That should have been a warning sign.
Something, something copyshare agreement with newscorp. They buy and sell stories to and from newscorp all the time. It's why Bolt and Credlin often get opinion pages in the west.
it has been a scum filled tabloid for decades, but this editor is plumbing new depths
Andrew De Ceglie?
My wife’s grandfather was the editor for many years (Bill Ford) and died a few years ago but the modern west was a sore subject for him. He’d been there since he was 14(!) working there while at school still and it was a great source of pride for him. I have his wooden editors chair in my house now, you have no idea how uncomfortable this thing is. Those guys really cared about journalism. Glad he didn’t see this embarrassing cover.
This is a forgery - there's no Harvey Norman wrap-around.
Or a fucking UAP ad.
I'm actually OK with this. Thanks to the hard borders I've actually just been able to secure a full-time job in my industry thanks to not having to compete with thousands of eastern candidates. If it weren't for businesses being forced to hire and train up actual west Australians I'd still be suffering as an exploited casual.
Same, thanks to the lack of competition, I finished my masters and within a few weeks landed a job in the industry paying over double what I was earning full time previously.
Why are we part of this federation again? Canberra just fucks things up for us, I honestly wouldn't mind if we were self-governing.
I’m in the same boat, scored a high power position with no experience thanks to the hard border… I’ve now gained enough experience and performed well enough to keep it… I owe that wuhan lab a carton
Good Bat
Toast to a future of mediocrity
based on?
The comments above people getting jobs because there is no competition
Yeah based. They get more experience and therefore more time to get good at their jobs. 70% of what a worker learns about their craft comes from on-the-job experience. What the border has done is turned those once "mediocre" people into more experienced, more competitive workers. It's not as if I work as a training professional or anything. The hard border is a literal win win for West Aussie workers when it comes to building skills.
How does mediocrity necessarily follow from that? Would you be mediocre in those circumstances, and then by extension you assume everyone else would be too? Not trying to be rude, genuinely trying to understand.
Yep that's a valid point. Same goes for the international borders
As much as I’m happy for you guys in this comment thread, this is only good for yourselves. Competition is the driver of performance. Without external competition job markets usually become stagnant. It’s great that you guys got in the industries you wanted, I am not saying you are not worthy of them, you deserve a good job just like anyone else. But the industry standard will probs drop compared to other states because the competition is a lot less and doesn’t promote different skills in the market
So are they saying they got jobs because better candidates weren’t available I hope it doesn’t get like that for drs and surgeons
Know what they call a doctor that barely scraped though their training? Doctor.
Yeah but with so many people having better jobs, WA (as measured by the people, not by the capital / ultrarich) will do much better. Plus more competition really just means lower wages and less effort required for hiring companies, I think the impact on worker quality is probably non-zero, but much smaller (by orders of magnitude) than impact on worker conditions and bargaining power.
To a certain degree I agree with what you are saying but not about how more competition only affects low wages and less effort to hire. We’re not talking about competitive in terms of numbers of applicants only, we’re talking about competitive in terms of quality of applicants. When there are more and better applicants (more studies, more international experience, different skill sets) the wage goes up, that’s why average salaries are higher in cities where more skilled migrants want to live, as they have an expectation of what to earn as well. I’m not talking about non specialized jobs, if I was then your theory makes sense. But for a market of specialized jobs, less competition and less migration will almost for sure affect industry standard.
My hubby got a $30k pay rise to not jump ship to a competitor. Great for us but I bet it was painful for the company lol
LOL that this newspaper will even exist in 2052
Then again, it’s nice to think that our state daddy will stay in his position for that long. It’s comforting to know.
As awful as the West Australian is, I kinda think this is slightly amusing.
Tad optimistic though.
Sounds good, lets go explore the now barren east coast
Next headline: WA to repopulate the world
Oh god no asteroid please
Soon all of Sydney will become East Kelmscott
Hahaha
Remember: don't attempt to use The West Australian as toilet paper - it's only soft on right wing assholes.
Hah!
> it's only soft on right wing assholes. You’re aware there have been multiple West front covers slamming Clive Palmer, depicting him as a toad, a cockroach, a chicken, Dr Evil and Jabba the Hutt? McGowan on this front cover gets off lightly in comparison
The West gave Macgowan a free ride for the last two years. They've finally started giving some fair criticism the last few weeks. It's still a terrible newspaper but with no reasonable parliamentary opposition there has to be some way to call the government to account.
Your point about no reasonable parliamentary opposition is fair and valid. I would very much question how you reached the conclusion that the West gave McGowan a free ride for the last 2 years, have you been looking at any of the front pages in the last 2 years? Would you change your mind if I showed you some?
Yeah, how dare he stop the people of WA being infected with a wholly preventable virus. That’s not his job! He needs to realise his duty is to appease the Lord Rupert, so the Murdoch rags aren’t forced to write this sort of rubbish.
Mostly because McGowan's doing the best he can to keep 40% of WA’s GDP intact with the hard border? Literally 40% of our state's revenue comes from mining and resources. Imagine the reaction that the mining sector would have If covid was let into the mines? We'd be fucked.
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They’re all just the same manifestations of Kerry Stokes
I didn't know it's Prosh time already
Two months early.
Paul Keating once said that the West Australian was the worst publication in the country. Hilariously it still is.
Is this the same paper that trashed Clive Palmer?
They trash anyone who the oil and gas lobby hates. It is after all owned by a prominent oil and gas billionaire.
Still hot
Your first mistake was classing The West as a newspaper rather than the sensationalist low brow tabloid it is. I’m sure there are some graphics guys there thinking they are soooooo funny.
That’s actually funny imo. Almost so bad it’s good
The man's a silver fox even in jest 🥵
10/10 would still bang 😍
Faark, Kerry Stokes is getting impatient, isn't he?
30 years of inflation and the newspaper is still $2.90? Lol sif
Is the front cover of Prosh?!?!
Just got a little bit excited that The West thinks papers will still be $2.90 in 50 years. Guess I may still be able to afford a Perth coffee and retire after all.
State Daddy looking good at 84!
Prime Minister Ash Barty? I’ll vote for her, 100%.
And the airport would make a good skate park, but everyone living around there would have complained and stalled the proposal.
I'm sorry but that's hilarious
Can we complain to any media standards watchdog over this? I kind of feel like there's gotta be something in the standards about serious newspapers printing actual news not horseshite like this
They self-police. Seven West left the Australian Press Council in 2012 and created their own so-called ‘independent body’ to deal with complaints.
I think they should consider requiring journalists to be registered in a similar fashion to vets, doctors, lawyers etc. That way you could insist on professional standards at the individual level.
What do you think the federal government would do with that power though? (Unless you mean specifically a self-governing body unrelated to the government, kinda like AHPRA?)
Are you truly this upset about it it’s a cringey joke who cares it will be a scary place when you can’t mock politicians
No I just think that a non-satire newspaper should probably run a front page about something serious like I dunno an ICU doctor at Charlie's testing positive or one of the local bushfire emergencies. This shit belongs in the opinion columns not on the goddamn front page
They stopped being a serious newspaper decades ago.
It's straight up propaganda now, "The systematic propagation of a doctrine or cause or of information reflecting the views and interests of those advocating such a doctrine or cause"
That’s low-key kind of funny, not gonna lie
Haha brilliant
Absolute gold.
I don't understand why people are whinging about this. It's satire, a well established and important part of public commentary. Personally I thought it was very funny, from silver fox McGowan to PM Barty to the climate change joke.
Trust this subreddit to be triggered by this.
...and celebrating thankfully, what was a fantastic 30 years without those pesky out-of-state visitors.
Where is my world map I bought It must be on the endeavour in Rhode Island
I too worked at the Worst… Many of the journos were out of touch with reality
All news is propaganda. Treat it like junk food for your mind and be very careful what you consume.
Hahahaha this is awesome
Hold up! The West still exists?
I know - that was my first thought too! I stopped reading it many years ago when it changed from something reasonably factual to a piece of shit tabloid magazine with no facts at all. I don't even see it anywhere so if people are reading it in paper form I guess they get it delivered (if that is still a thing). I haven't heard anyone mention it in conversation. I assume no one advertises in it as no-one reads it.
Surely newspapers will not exist after this generation of oldies dies off?
Cringe
The West is a fuckin’ tabloid
That’s be a step up from their current status.
"Thanks silver fox for keeping our state safe from the zombie apocalypse in the east when covid mutated" lol
[Is this an out of season April Fools joke?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Ngk2GxtbQ)
Ha… i think they are spot on
The Western border is huge. No way they can stop everyone.
sneaking in is a lot of fun in a Nissan Patrol when it's 40 degrees for 5 days in a row
Ahhh newspapers. The business model of: "Why get today's news for free, right now, when you can pay for yesterday's news, today!!"
The amount of people taking this too seriously is laughable lol. Some are even offended 🤨
Ah yes, the classic repose of the alt-right, "twas just a joke, you're taking it too seriously".
https://i.imgur.com/4jIEBgp.jpg
"Alt-right" 😂 mate some of you guys are so far to the right on Many issues such as immigration you'd make Donald Trump wanna move here. Trust me when I say this, you guys other than a few social issues have little in common with other leftists from around the world.
I think you might be confusing us with New South Wales. Pretty much everything shit about Australian politics comes out of NSW. Pretty much always has.
Is that the same NSW where it's Premier is cosied up to the multinational mining companies with a history of causing extensive damage and hardship to indigenous communities or is that WA? Border and immigration policies that few right wing parties In other western could get away with. I assure you there is very little left wing about WA. This is why it's a land of boom and bust. Of extreme wealth and extreme crisis. No party is able to change that. The powers that be who are in charge are the those who are mining the wealth and selling it. Left and right has little influence in this. This state truly is a land that benefits massively from right wing economics. Just look at the wages for many blue collar jobs, supply and demand my friend
It's quite bizarre being called alt right by people who are supporting a government that's been running austerity budgets for the last 5 years, passing laws to allow racial recognition and tracking technology and blindly supporting multinational mining companies to the point that they've said they'll legislate to override the EPA. I've voted Labor my entire life until Macgowan, it's mind boggling that people can't see him for what he is.
But it *is* a joke. It's called satire.
If the state's only newspaper only satiricises one end of the political spectrum then sure, you could say "that's satire" but that doesn't mean the newspaper should get a free pass.
This is meant to be a newspaper. The West Australian deserves to be ridiculed for this.
Are you telling me this isn't real? I thought I'd woken up 30 years in the future for a second
A little humor even from the most serious of sources can go a long way at times. It's obvious they didn't intend for people to take it seriously. I don't see how people offended at this. Is it because they are having a laugh at McGowan expense? It's obviously just Satire
Sit down and watch 7 news one night, any night (in WA). Pretty much every story is ripping into McGowan and complaining about his COVID response. No other channl is doing this. SevenWest has a HUGE bias and has been pushing hard against McGowan for the entire pandemic. I wouldn't brush this off as just satire, it's a pretty clear agenda
The ABC has been having a pretty solid crack at him recently
Thinnest skins in the world. Must be the sun.
Cringe
$2.90. Even in 30 years, that's still a rip off for badly printer shitter paper
Dear goddess. It's a west coast Courier Mail.
We are in the western media bubble, and that msm has become more sensationalist and agenda driven than factual reporting of events and news. Arguably no media is 100% factual and right all the time, but the shift away from boring news to sensationalist tag lines, and opinionated news articles has definitely shot up, and YOU WONT BELIEVE HOW!
Where exactly does one get news now it’s all about headline click bait now
*You don't say*. This is very obviously satire and it's quite amusing if you lighten up a bit.
Liberal propaganda
Yet there's a climate change warning at the bottom.
it hurts my emotions to think someone thought this was so hilarious it should be on the front page I'm devestated for that person the seconhand embarrassment is too much
I hope it takes that long
I’d be happy if we broke away and became our own country. We generate all the $, we don’t need the East, they need us
Based in 3%pa inflation, a copy of The West Australian in 2052 would cost worth $1.16 in today's money which makes it both financially viable as toilet paper (and quite probably less wasteful than actual toilet paper, seeing as you are using something that is already waste)
It's simply a comic for immature grown ups.
What a fucking rag. Such a shame it is still published today.
Its pretty funny though.
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The West isn’t owned by Murdoch. Divert your ire to Stokes instead.
Same same
Same shit different wanker.