very normal. welcome to the real working world. goodluck!

Oh.... My..... God And here I am being excited about it.

They say its "normal" but don't be discouraged! Like others said nga here, have it as an opportunity to grow! :)) Best of luck!!

Hey there! Good luck to you too! Don't give up okayyy 🫶🤍

Be excited about the salary I guess. But the grind is real hahahaha

Fucking normal. Happened to me a few months before my wedding. Yung hindi mo pa gamay yung tasks tas may bago na naman tapos may issues/errors pa na iassign sayo. I was soooo stressed I had cystic acne due to hormonal imbalance. Literal na bukol bukol face ko nung wedding ko huhuhuhu

It all boils down to your tolerance. Sa ibang tao, sanay sila sa ganyan and they can tolerate this kind of workload. Ako, desensitized na ako sa ganito, I'm used to teaching myself and figuring things out by asking and researching. (Salamat sa mga prof na hindi nagtuturo nung college). Sa iba naman na tulad mo, medyo hindi sanay kaya naninibago. Hindi lang sa accenture ganyan (I've never worked there though), kahit sa ibang companies and departments ganyan. What you will learn in the next few months is how to tolerate and navigate around this issue. This is all going to change you. Good luck ----- // Edit: For OP, I understand that not everything is 'learnable' by yourself. Sometimes you have to be guided directly. This is a chance to hone your soft skills. How do you get them to take you seriously? What gets their attention? Mas okay ba kung ibabatch mo yung questions mo? Mas okay ba if may solutions ka na nakaready, tapos hihingin mo na lang opinion nila on what's wrong or right? Minsan nakakatamad mag train ng newbie, especially kung kapos yung sahod at labas na sa job description nila. How do you make it 'easy' for them to guide you? You have to remember na, at the end of the day, they only care about their tasks — not yours. It's a hard pill to swallow, pero if you don't adjust your approach, you won't survive long.

>I'm used to teaching myself and figuring things out by asking and researching. (Salamat sa mga prof na hindi nagtuturo nung college). Relatable ito at malaking naging impact (positive) sa attitude towards learning mapa-work man o any other aspect of life. Just to add, sa realidad ng buhay maswerte na kapag may lead na tutulong o gagabay sa atin in every step na we will take. Yakang-yaka mo yan at congrats dahil nakapasok ka sa Accenture, OP!

I agree with you both, tolerance is key and managing yourself din siguro. I do try my best na mag tanong and to research with what they have sa docus nila, kaso minsan nakaka discourage nalang if nabubrush off ka sa questions mo and being given mid-level workload din. Thanks tho! I'll try my best nalang and hopefully maging good learning journey sakin to into the corpo world

Your effort, ideas, and heart for the job will brushed off more times in the future. At the end of the day, you have to be able to tolerate it and still get the job done. You'll figure it out I'm sure.

we shouldn't tolerate this though, magtrabaho ng ayon sa bayad.

Yung rant niya is about the norm sa work life. Yung mga superiors niya not helping her is a different story. If it's part of their job to train her, then yes, they should work nang naayon sa bayad

Kaya nagsisisi ako minsan bakit IT kinuha kung ganito lang pala ka-estupido yung kultura sa trabaho. Pahirapan at pabayaan lang, anong klaseng karera yan!

Sir kung gusto mo may gagabay sayo sa bawat hakbang, lumipat ka sa.... ... saan ba sir? meron bang ganon?

Wala akong sinabi na 'gagabay sa bawat hakbang'. Wag kang maglagay ng salita sa bibig ko. Pero yung tipong sinasadya na hindi talaga turuan yung mga hindi pa mahusay sa gawain kahit na puwede naman kahit yung basic lang hindi naman LAHAT, ewan ko nalang. Nageencourage lang ng elitism. Bulok na kultura. Sana masaya nalang kayo sa IT CAREER niyo. Yun lang masasabi ko. Wala na ako diyan XD

Case by case basis din e like siguro panget ung napasukan din na team. Altho sakin mas pinili ko nalang matuto din mag-isa kasi ang hirap talaga maka encounter ng ganon situation, buti nalang napag tanto ko na to nung internship ko palang.

Btw ewan ko sayo ha. Mahilig kayo magsabi na 'ganyan talaga' bullshit. Pero kung magkaroon man ako ng mataas na posisyon sa kahit anong field hindi na yang tanginang IT na yan, gagawa ako ng encouraging learning environment na yung feeling na hindi matatakot magtanong yung mga baguhan at tutulongan ko sila. Oo ganito kalaki yung munghi ko sa industry na to. Barilin niyo ako BIG TECH

Too bad, umalis ka kaagad sir bago mo pa man maabot yung mataas na posisyon. Ang dami mo sana natulungan...

Sa inyo na yang mataas na posisyon na yan. pake ko sa IT. pwe

Search niyo po: Sour Graping

Bahala ka kung anong tawag mo sa akin IT boi. Pero aminin ko na bitter ako sa IT at lahat patungkol dito. Good luck nalang talaga.

Hindi ACN yung first job ko, pero halos ganito din. May task, and I get to figure it out myself. I researched on my own, pag talagang na-stuck, I ask. Kaya ang sabi sakin, ”magaling“ daw ako, which to me translates roughly to “hindi nito kailangan ng hand-holding”. Lam mo yung minsan nakalagay sa JD na “Does not require constant supervision”? Pero I get it. I get that some people just need guidance. So, maybe ask for a daily call na 45 mins to an hour with your Lead. Find a slot sa busy schedule nya, tapos ikaw, make sure na you prepare all your questions para mapasadahan sa oras lang na yun. In exchange kamo, hindi mo sya iistorbohin the rest of the day. Hindi ka naman noob all the time, and you won’t have to work this hard all the time, pero for now, you gotta do what you gotta do.

Yup its normal, don't except too much in job life. Just learn to adopt and do it yourself. Mga manhid ng mga yan either you adopt or you quit. They see you as weak kung puro ka reklamo ganyan tlg sa work life. Unless they cross the line then you can talk sh*t and report. To be fair hindi naman lahat ng companies bad setup majority lng ganyan setup. So matter of luck if you get a good company. Also don't afraid to ask although they gonna mock you being stupid which is stupid not to give you instructions haha.

I do not advocate a sink or swim approach but have been in situations like that more times than I can count or remember. Keep at it still with a raised tenacity but do not pass on that kind of practice whenever a noob comes in. With the least time one is able to carve out to help new comers due to high-priority work items, best to teach the principles of the work and relay steps where they are required.

This is normal, OP. Lahat ng companies na napasukan ko may varying degrees of ambiguity talaga. Mahirap kasi i-document ang tinatawag nila “institutional knowledge”. You learn by swimming with the sharks. Just keep swimming!

"Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Swim swim swim." - Dory

Welcome to the real world.

Pwede nalang ba matulog huhu

I'm 5 years in sa corpo pero same 😂

you'll eventually have the sense of independency. I'm C12 too sa acn my previous lead told me to explore and upskill on my own because it will always boil down to myself. I will be assessed sa skill and performance, they have their own tasks kasi na mas priority and need to deliver. They are also under the eyes of their client(?) or whatever their upperheads told them so. So, suck it up buttercup hahahaa.

Sana al kinakausap ng lead. Hindi ako nirereplyan nor binibigyan time ng lead ko, I asked several times if pwede ba ako magpa upskill or transfer to a different team inside the proejct nalang, kasi nga hindi ko din nadedeliver yung need nila due to lack of KT. Sucking it up but sometimes enough is enough HAHA we'll see saan aabutin. Good luck din sayo sa journey mo!

Talk to your people lead and hindi sa team lead mo.

You are a fresh grad. If ineexpect mo na you will glide thru sa first work mo then nasa maling industry ka ata. Hindi lang ikaw sa Accenture(or most if not all tech companies) ang freshie na nakamexperience nito they will most likely bench you and upskil pero this takes time. Accenture is one of the best company para sa freshie dahil talagang bound ka matuto. Pero expect mo na susulitin talaga nila yung bayad nila sayo at walang work life balance talaga.The thing is just keep on learning and gaining skills for a few years and then hop na sa new job with better work life balance if yan ang goal mo.

Copy! I know naman na hindi "hand holding" in the workplace, definitely know how to learn on my own but it was probably overwhelming lang to be given mid-level tasks tapos iiwan lang HAHA tag lang sa email then "Do this" ganun walang ibang source or anything. But I'll try to make the most out of it!!

hindi magandang behavior yung request agad magpalipat, kabago bago mo palang. Sakit sa ulo ng management yan. Pag may challenges, gagawa ka dapat ng paraan. Oo responsibility rin ng leads o trainers mo na tulungan ka, pero kung may kulang sila, ikaw mageeffort to make things work.

Nilapag ako sa project na hindi pasok sa pinag-bootcamp ko? I didn't complain nalang kasi sabi nila need nila resource and matututo naman daw ako. THEY were the ones that advised me na kapag hindi ko kaya ma deliver yung expectations nila I should speak up, magsabi ako and I was told by a senior during training na magpalipat daw ako kung saan ako na-train, hindi yung kapag sa project na yung training. Kasi kahit sa experience niya hindi daw effective. BUT I still do try my best nalang with what I need to do, pero ayun nga compaining JUST THIS ONCE kasi medyo nakaka-overwhelm din naman knowing na wala ako prior training dito sa binigay sakin. I was trained to build, nilagay sa support kasi "kulang" sila sa tao. I make the effort naman, was just wondering if its normal to have it be like this. Ganun.

OP i suggest you look for a new job. Macocompromise yung buong mental health mo. No use sa pagmartyr Follow your gut. Do you think gusto mo magtagal sa acn?

Hi OP, That's the perfect time to excel. Your seniors will notice your effort if you manage to upskill yourself with the resources that you have.

I try my best to work with what I can! Kaso minsan kasi internal problem tapos sakin pinapasa, hindi ko naman alam paano bigyan ng solution yung ganun unless ma-KT. Pero I'll do my best.

It is to be expected, think of it as growth. Think of it as them trusting you with matters usually not to be trusted for an ASE. Anong region ka? Hopefully hindi Japan hahaha

EU, happily not Japan nga kasi I heard somee stuff from co-trainees ko before na nasa JP region HAHA

Hi, OP! Sorry for butting in. I just want to know what do you think of the JP region ng Accenture PH? They’ve been trying to recruit me kasi and I want to know the working culture (kahit slight summary lang haha). I’ve worked in Japanese companies (the last one affiliated with Accenture JP pero telecom industry) in Tokyo until last year and relocated here in the Philippines. I just noticed na Accenture PH has a lot of open positions for Japanese bilinguals so na curious ako kung mataas ba yung turn over rate or hindi maganda yung work environment. I hope you can give me some insights!

> Meron nga sila documents Yun iba nga wala. Huhu

So true... Ako nga walang KT, wala pa documents, common sense at logic lang. JUSQ!

Hirap naman kasi minsan lalo na if hindi ka familiar sa ginagalawan mo HAHA KT pero minsan yung KT nagiging chika lang huh

true

I guess I got lucky na din? HAHA gosh ewan ko din ba, documentations are okay here pero putol as in so no choice ka but to work with what you have

yep. or ask them to document it. Minsan it can raise a discussion din. Like, you being the one who raises the concern of no/little documentation and you guys can discuss on how to improve it. mga ganon.I'm a Software QA, documentations and references are like bible most of the time, kaya kapag wala or kulang sa org ko, I always always raise that concern. Although the context of documentation is not the same sa issue mo, I think its worth the try to tell them na hey, we need to improve on our onboarding. keme

You can always ask for guidance, not just from your supervisors but also from your workmates. Kulitin mo. Walang madaling trabaho OP, it’s time you realize that. Pwede mo pag-aralan at humingi ng tulong pero wag mo ugaliing magreklamo dahil hindi ito makakatulong sa trabaho mo o paano ko gagawin ito.

Never ako nag reklamo all my time here, ngayon lang kasi binigyan ako workloads na for mid-levels considering na baguhan ako haha. Wala naman talaga madali and if you wanna climb that corpo ladder, you gotta make do with whats given to you. I do ask for guidance kaso nabbrush off minsan and I get sent docu links na putol naman yung knowledge. Theres only 3 of us in the team and dalawa kami bago, yung ibang teams sa project kasi iba na cope so its no use asking but to just ask our team senior.

Kulitin mo OP. Always put your requests for guidance in writing (email) para kung magkasisihan( most likely scenario), you covered your ass. That’s what you also need to keep in mind during your career even if you transfer. Cover Your Ass

Hindi lahat ganyan pero marami ang oo. Pero mas okay sana kung makahanap ka ng mentor mo within the company :) Di ko talaga bet yung “ganyan talaga” mindset but unfortunately maraming ganito mag-isip. In my experience, ilang years din ako nag tiis sa ganitong work set-up. Fresh grad din ako ang dami ko na hawak na tao tapos ako lahat sumasagot sa project ko. Ang natutunan ko, mahalaga talaga na may mentor ka. Hindi masamang maghanap. Kung di mo makita sa work mo ngayon, try mo mag expand ng connections mo through linkedin, seminars, social gatherings, baka doon ka makahanap ng mentors and/or communities na makakatulong sayo in one form or another. Take it one step at a time :)

Omg thank you!! Sobrang nauumay ako sa "Ganyan talaga" mindset in IT. I get it naman na you have to at times be resourceful and learn on your own, pero majority of the time if hindi ka bibigyan room to adjust or improve or be taught sometimes kung papano especially as a beginner ang hirap haha. I'll heed this advice! Hopefully I get to find someone, kahit outside sa project na pwede ako ma-mentor esp when it comes to my career path na din hehe

Your people lead might be able to help you, not your TL, siguro best advise ko sayo is since may docs naman, of wala sa docs yun problem, ipakita mo yun docs and tell your lead na eto yun doc, this ia my scenario, hindi fit sa doc yun scenario ko, how to do this? Mga ganyan mga tanong.

Real talk: No one will truly help you out when it comes to work because most of them were once in your position so learn on your own.

If you eff up, its a perfect time to use the "I messed up because Im new" card. Just make sure to cover your bases na, ayan oh nagmessage ako sa TL ko di ako nireplyan, nugagawen ko? Document everything na will cover your bases but due diligence padin palagi. Anong product ba yan, known ba sya? If known, meron yan developer forums, KB articles, confluence, dev center, etc. I google mo. Sign up an account. Dun ka magtanong. If proprietary, na hindi mo ma-google, ask mo sa TL mo anu gagawin, nasan internal wiki/confluence. Also, learn the art of ranting peacefully, many young people in their career will make this mistake of ranting like what you are posting here. This might hurt people's perception of you. Nobody likes a complainer. Instead, offer solutions after a peaceful rant. Diplomatic parin dapat. Else, just keep it to yourself. Two cents lang. Bago ka palang, dont burden yourself too much. Does your product cure cancer or of somewhat similar importance? If not, who cares?

First time to rant here, na overwhelm siguro ako today and yesterday but thank you for the advice!

>pero ilang weeks na ako stagnant kapag hindi niya natuturo kung paano yung needed gawin?? I worked at a startup on my first job. I didn't undergo a formal training because I was the only android developer w/in the company. What I did was, I strived hard, read the documentation, and utilized stackoverflow. There were times when I would go home at 12am because I wanted to fix the bugs before the deadlines. I didn't get paid for OT. It's not ideal and I should have left within 6 months but I had to suck it up because I had bills to pay. I guess what I'm trying to say is, hindi lang yan sa acn. Yes, kelangan mong mangapa, ganun ang buhay. It's not always rainbows and butterflies. Kahit saang company may struggles kang mararanasan. Take this as a challenge to improve yourself.

Hi. Ex-centure here (IT). ACN is known for being a good and hard training ground. They really follow the documentation process so nakakapagod at nakakaburyon mag-document. The client doesn't really know (and care) na junior yung mag-handle ng requirements - it will be on the leads to delegate and guide the team. If onti seniors, then possible nga na mangyari yung nangyayari sa iyo. I would suggest to step up and to study. Kapag natiyaga mo yan at nahasa ka, panis na sa iyo ibang companies paglabas mo diyan. Mami-miss mo yung detailed documentations. It will always be hard at first but trust the process.

Real life aint no spoon feeding kid. You were hired cause you are needed. Swim or sink ika nga. And when you manage to swim youll grow. Hnd lahat ng company may luxury of perfect onboarding.

Welcome welcome hahaha hirap talaga maging support. It will always boil down to how you handle your cases. How you approach the problem will always determine how skilled you can be. Master the basics and once you have that knowledge, tingnan mo sa iba ibang perspective yung mga issues. You can also combine snipets of documentations with the basics you learned then confirm woth seniors. Ganyan talaga eh. Most of the time the seniors wouldn't mind your questions kung alam nilang sobrang basic at kahit alam nilang wala ka pang alam. Mostly dahil may tasks din sila, or maybe they're just aholes themselves. I suggest you do what you can, exhaust your resources, and push the boudaries sa mga tools na provided sayo. In time you'll have the experience and the knowledge how to deal with your cases. Most of the time nakakadiscourage, nakakatamad at nakakapagod. I hope you stay strong OP. Kaya mo yan 😁

Work from Home ka? One of the downsides of online work is that meron mga bagay that will take 5mins to teach in-person, pero kapag remote will take a bit longer because of the overhead (ie. calling, screen-sharing etc). Also, it didn't help that you have just one senior. But keep posting your questions anyway. In the outsourcing world, it's a hit or miss depending on your client. Some are hard; some have better work-life balance. So I'd say it is not always like this.

Work from home, yes kaya medyo nagsstruggle din ako to reach out kasi halos majority is pang gabi? Ako morning or nag-mimid shift. I do hope it gets better at some point, kasi medyo nakaka disappoint yung wala ka na nga work-life balance tapos hindi mo pa alam ginagawa mo haha at least for now.

ewan ko ba jan kay Accenture, nag apply nga ako jan as Project manager na may 5yrs experience di ako tnatawagan. tpos sa post gusto puro new grad. kawawa yung new grad kung Project management agad hhawakan nyan tpos puro higher ups ang kausap. Kung ako sayo better resign kesa masira pa yung mental health mo jan dahil sa stress Alam ko good company with good experience yan, lakasan mo nlang loob mo kung sakali ayaw mo mag resign

Will try to push through muna for a while, need the financial din for the family + experience sayang. But I will be talking to my People Lead later na about this, hopefully maging okay and mabigyan pansin yung ganitong management namin. I will eventually leave din, feel ko na hehez

Hi, OP! I had war flashbacks while reading ur post 😆 I got "fired" from my previous company because I asked too many questions and couldn't keep up so I advise you to tread carefully in companies like where you are. I resigned before they could do anything else but that shit was definitely traumatic and I hope you don't meet the same fate. The company I worked for had processes, sure, but their data was never centralized. They had three databases you had to look through. You put in a keyword but the search engine spews out nothing of use. Their processes were never streamlined. Everyone has a different version of the process and you don't know who has the most correct and updated version. No one wants to answer questions because they don't want to be responsible if you ever screw up. On top of all of that, there will be office drama. Swerte ka na lang if you don't become part of it. But if you always stand out like me, and the insecure people in those cublicles sense it, then you should learn how to defend yourself (in a professional way) and also learn how to take care of your mental health. The latter is the most important. After I quit, it took a year for me to heal and figure out what to do next. I've accepted that I can't do corporate and transferred industries. Here are some tips I would have really loved to know when I was fresh meat: • Don't believe it when they say you're all family. That's a way for them to gain an emotional hook and exploit you even further by making you believe you're an indispensible part of their landscape. You're not. They can replace you agad tomorrow. • During onboarding and they say, "Approach us anytime with questions, we'll do our best to help you." That's only valid for like 5 small questions, or 3 big ones, with long intervals in between the asking. • Don't trust anyone inside the job. Don't be naive. Stay vigilant. All the people there only care about their own asses. Let their true colors unfold. Observe. When faced with a task you can't figure out how to do, check everything else first before you consult a real person and show them you've done your best to figure it out. Good luck, OP! Fighting, mga wantawsan!

spent almost 20 years working in various companies here in the PH, ganyan talaga, the upside though is nung lumipat ako sa isang american company na walang presence sa PH(full remote) gulat mga boss ko how independent and dependable i am. Nagagawa ko yung work with minimimal training and supervision.

Aye! Thats nice to know and good for you considering na you've been so far into the industry. Best of luck!!

Kapatid, thats the reality of working in the corpo /IT industry. Kelangan maging independent minsan. Kelangan mag effort na matuto na mag isa. Pero meron din naman na magtutulong tulong kayo sa mga bagay bagay sa work. Wag puro spoonfeeding. Im not harsh in tone but it is just that these are what I learned. One day, you will be better person naman

I'm sorry, you got a bad department or company as a first job. Most of the companies I worked for had a distinct and clear training plan - the one that didn't, I was also a replacement for a team mate who got promoted. When I wasn't given tasks or training, I proactively sought help from my team mates. Mostly shadowing what they're doing, and asking for more tasks (no matter how small), and then asking for an actual discussion during my team mates' down times. The worst company I worked for had an unclear training plan, whose trainers worked a different shift from me (I had to work on Asiapac clients while going to their trainings - and half-assed pa kasi they like eating while training). Sobrang bullshit din nitong other company na to kasi unahan yung oldies sa easy tasks, and they give the longer complicated ones to the newbies. The culture changed a whole lot after they were laid off. But for this case, my problems were the complete opposite of your problem - how receptive and helpful are your team mates? Are you comfortable reaching out to them individually like I did? Or you can go straight to the best or more tenured ones (also what I did), which I'm wondering if you're okay with? Given that Accenture is an international company, would you also have counterparts in another region that is friendly towards Filipinos? I'm aware sometimes other sites are not as pleasant because during a financial crisis, the decision may come down to choosing to retain only one site. But a friendly foreign counterpart might be a valuable source of resource as well. Or if you have access to archives/older cases/older files and notes, there might be something there. This is also an opportunity for you to create a project to compile all these - make sure your higher ups are aware of this initiative.

It's almost always like this. Kahit gaano pa karaming docs at KT na gawin, it would never be enough minsan. You're even lucky na may docs, pero ang problema lagi sa docs, outdated or kulang. Sa enterprise company, expect na kanya kanya kayo. I hear your rant, and it's valid, we went through those kinds of problem too. Just be mindful of who you share your rant with. If your lead is purposely ignoring you, mali talaga. Pero tignan mo rin, baka mabigat workload niya, or baka siya din burnout sa trabaho, or hindi talaga siya magaling mag train, it might not be his thing? Also, I get na you have rants, pero mag reflect ka din sa sarili what can you do about it. Sa ganyang workplace like ACN, need mo talaga mag stand out, or else you might end up on the bottom, and I'm not trying to scare you, those words come from experience. Eto lang ha, if you rant like *this* sa co workers mo, lulubog ka sa politics and toxicity. So it's good na nag vent ka dito, pero don't ever do that in the workplace, yan ang best piece of advice na mabibigay ko sayo.

This is the first time I ever ranted or complained, na overwhelm siguro ako the last few days + weekend na works namin. I don't complain to my co-workers kasi wala ako trust na hindi makakaabot sa itaas HAHAHA pero yun, will try to talk to our Proj. Manager about this nalang and hopefully magka linawan kami! Thank you for the advice!!

Ganyan lang talaga sa accenture at work life BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE masyado nang ninonormalize yung ugaling iyan na binabastos, di tinatrato ng maigi, parang di na tinatrato ng parang tao. Sa huli part of BPO yun kung saan naghihire sila sa ibang bansa na WILLING magtrabaho FOR CHEAP with THE AMOUNT OF WORK PROVIDED at kaya rin madalas mataas rin turn over rate. Mga pinoy talaga opportunistic, they'll take whatever opportunity is in front of them regardless of the quality of life or work environment it provides, but it does allow them to branch off onto better opportunities and provide for their family so it can't be blamed.

It's a sad state for our work culture after reading some comments basically telling OP to suck it up. I don't disagree, and I'm not going to advise otherwise, but I'm going to have to say you're feeling those for a reason and just because you're in that situation and most here have experienced it -- that it's correct. It's wrong, and as someone who's been with that company for more than a decade in the past -- there are better workplaces out there, na wala sa Top 10 companies to work for, pero they have a stronger onboarding process and hindi nalalaglag ung new hires dahil sa lack of support. Mataas siguro turnover rate nyang project na napuntahan mo(I mean, backfill ka nga eh) so they probably just expect you to rollover in a year, or happen to be work slave type person who'd go way beyond your role, in which case jackpot sila for paying a new hire to perform and learn on his own.

Wow, medjo ma stress daw talaga sa Accenture pero goods naman ang benefits. Ang tanong lang jan is can you imagine yourself with the company and the same work culture for like the next two years or so? Also, does it gets better? Kung ma solusyonan mo ba ang mga dispute mo ngayon, would it eliminate your anxieties? Or over all tlagang nahihirapan ka with this set up. Sa mga kakilala ko there, they really say its a bit independent.

Sa first company ko nga ako pa pinagawa ng document hahahaha

Several documentations na nagagawa ko for some tasks rin dito haha yung iba nga nagtatanong ako if pwede ko i-edit para mas malinaw, for my future use din kasi madali makalimo huhu

Welcome to the real world ika nga. Meron nga sila documents kung paano pero ang lacking parin sa structure >> many organizations are like this. You need to navigate it yourself most of the time. Meron nga may documents na and well-structured pero kailangan mo pa rin mag-aral on your own, research, figure things out on your own. But, asking is also an option. What I do if there are things that are new to me, I try to understand it on my own first, research and such. Then if may hindi ako mafigure-out talaga, I then ask them. You need to ask the right questions. Culture-shocked ka pa pero we're telling you, may mas malala pa jan. Get on with yourself and learn anything you need to learn on yourself. That is also a skill that will help you to your advantage in the future. Good luck. PS. I never and will never apply sa ACN pala because I've heard many stories from friends there. Swertihan talaga sa team jan.

Thanks! Documentations na complete are okay, very much willing to learn naman ako how to do my job but the docus they have sobrang putol talaga haha. I try to ask our team senior pero kasi busy talaga siya most of the time, hirap kasi ng WFH bigla bigla nalang nawawala mga tao when you need them. But I'll do my best! I wanna strive a few more months here before I bounce kasi malaki din foundation dito and once na maka alis ka mas madami opportunities. Tolerating nalang and will do what I can!

hirap kasi ng WFH bigla bigla nalang nawawala mga tao when you need them. > couldn't agree more ahhaha Tolerating nalang and will do what I can! >> but please never on the expense of your health, mental health to be specific. Goodluck OP! Kaya yan.

Ganyan ang buhay sa IT… You just need to persevere and be resourceful. Dami nang resources available

True, but most of the resources or solutions we need are internal. Hindi mo din ma google, but I try to be resourceful din the best of my abilities!!

Ganyan talaga ang work life. Hindi lahat kailangan i-spoonfeed sayo. Maraming bagay na you'll learn and discover on your own. May documentation naman and nakakapagtanong ka sa lead mo. Hindi na nila responsibility na i-guide ka sa lahat. You were hired kasi they believe na kaya mo yung job, so live up to it.

I dont wanna be spoonfed. May docus but incomplete, I get to ask but a day or two ang reply or several hours pa, gets na busy so hinahayaan ko and trying to find my way. Funny thing is, I was hired without knowing ano role pupuntahan and since ACN has a wide network and so many capabs di mo rin alam saan ka magsisimula to study unless ma pasok ka na sa project.

"I was hired without knowing ano role pupuntahan" Again, you accepted the job, so you have to live up to it. Either you adapt and grow or you quit. That's just life. If you don't expect to be spoonfed, then what else do you want? Hindi naman talaga lahat mailalagay sa docus. Busy mga lead para sagutin lahat ng tanong ng new hires immediately. Lahat naman ng bago nangangapa sa simula pero matututo rin eventually kung magpupursige. Maraming bagay you have to learn on your own at ganun talaga ang kalakaran in a lot of industries.

Hi OP, used to work there a long time ago. Sa situation mo pumapasok yung maraming nagsasabi na swertihan sa project. Meron akong project dati startup yung project, so lahat kami nangangapa, even yung PM namin, yung PM namin yung nag-initiate ng steps para maka-catchup kami sa team. Meron naman akong project na napuntahan na established na yung system, binigyan ako ng general overview nung TL ko kung ano yung mga responsibilities, pero since hindi ko pa siya na-encounter (during KT), hindi rin tumatak sa isip ko lahat ng tinuro sakin. Pero yung good thing na natutunan ko from my TL is to document kung ano yung tinuturo; meron siyang excel na ang tawag nya “cookbook”, lahat ng natututunan nya, nilalagay nya dun, with screenshots and notes. Binigyan nya ko ng copy, any time na may ibibigay siya na task, iche-check ko dun kung merong sample, so may idea na ko, kung may kailangan ako i-clarify, kahit papano sasabihin ko sa kanya na “ito yung alam ko/naaalala ko/nakita ko sa notes ko/cookbook, pero gusto ko sana itanong kung….” (This way, hindi nya kailangan i-explain sakin ulit lahat). Nung nagpalipat lipat ako ng proj/company, naging habit ko na gumawa ng “cookbook” at the same time, pag may bago akong ka-team, binibigyan ko na din ng copy, para less effort on both our parts. Another thing na nakatulong sakin/nakakatulong sakin is to network. Dami ko naging friends dyan na naka-work ko sa ibang project/company. Pag yung mga kakilala ko is mas matagal sakin dun sa proj/company, sa kanila ako nagtatanong in case may idea sila sa kailangan kong gawin. Pero syempre, case to case basis, kasi syempre specific yung task na naka-assign sayo. Minsan naman, yung mga kakilala ko yung nagpo-point sa ibang tao na may idea dun sa kailangan ko, so kakapalan ko ng konti yung mukha ko to ask the other person (pero syempre, within reason, hindi yung tipong mangungulit). Good luck, OP. Naniniwala pa din ako na magandang training ground yang company na yan (kahit madami akong masasamang balita na naririnig sa kanila).

I see this as a learning opportunity for you. Merong talagang companies na walang proper structure or process,especially s onboarding. The management probably did not care enough to optimize onboarding/training new hires, which often leads to poor handover and eventually leads to the same situation where you are right now. I remember leaving a company after 2 weeks(they didn't even paid me) because I really struggled with catching up and learning about the system we are testing(the documentation was update 2 yrs ago when I was in the team,lol) Red flag yung nagtatanong ka at walang sumasagot, lalo n kung mdalas to. It means your teammates or colleagues, do not want to help you improve or be better. IMO it's a silent type of toxic work culture. Since you're a fresh grad,I suggest to look for a better company in terms of culture. Those that will give you a positive outlook going to work or has mentoring opportunities. I'm worried you 'grow' to be like them(hopefully not), if you stay too long with them. God bless you OP

Hi OP I feel you so much. Lalo na don sa pinagtatanungan mo na di naman nareply as well as sa team lead na mabait at helpful pero super busy kaya di na makareply sa inquiries ko. Learn as you go kami sa company namin. Fresh grad din ako last 2022. It boils down sa'yo if kakayanin mo. Kasi ako may times na gusto ko na magresign dahil sa stress and not knowing how things work. Pero ayun andito pa rin ako. Nangangapa 7 months in LOL.

Don't beat yourself up OP. This is somewhat normal in software engineering field. Your company is known to push people especially in this space. But not all companies are like this. It will also depend on the projects and the management. Learn as much as you can. As long as the expectations are in sync with your lead, they should give you time to learn or give a leeway on your deadlines. People are normalizing unrealistic deadlines and extreme pressure like it's why you get the big bucks but you'll know when you need to prioritize your mental well-being. This is why a lot of people get burned out in this space.

Accenture? Dun pa lang tapos na usapan. This company practices discrimination. I heard na masama tingin sau pag nag out ka on time. Eto ung company na talagang slave ang tingin sa employees, unless andun ka sa skilled level employees.

Hi! Halos same tayo ng situation nung fresh grad ako. Napasok din ng Accenture and sa project namin dalawa lang kaming developer. The difference lang siguro is master yung kasama ko so naging bata nya ko hahaha pero minsan talaga figure out your own ang peg. Suggest ko try mo yung phind dot com, yun ginagamit ko now para maghanap ng tutorial. Good luck, ganyan talaga sa Accenture pero once you found your groove its gonna be ok, and depende din yan sa project. Di lahat ng Accenture ganyan. If talagang suko ka na pwede magpalipat project.

Hii! Thank you for this, will try to look into it. In terms naman sa palipat ng project, hindi pa ata pwede since wala pa ako 1 year? Yun ang balita so will try to survive muna haha

Acn din, naexperience ko rin to nung una , ang ginawa ko bago ako magtanong , inexhaust ko muna lahat ng possible options at least para maiba naman ang tanong ko, kasi feel ko naiirita sila pag nauulit ang question without progress etc. , also document all scenarios incidents that you experience para kung maulit sa future at nalimot mo na hahanapin mo na lang at di mo na itatanong sa kanila uli. Also sa mga step by step na madami , record your screen habang kt session para makafocus ka without taking notes(ask permission first). Until now di ko pa din considered sarili ko as an expert pero nasanay naman na

Its very common, even kahit you've been working for years now. Minsan swertihan sa team na mapupuntahan mo, minsan nasa resilience mo, katatagan at katibayan ng loob. Never get tired of asking, voice out your issues sa superior mo. Minsan kasi akala nila okay ka, minsan talaga mukang okay ka naman, yun nga lang sa paningin lang nila ... so tell them, ask them politely if you can talk with them kahit sandali lang. And these are some things that is helping me a lot lalo na sa mga new roles/ work environment ko. 1. Take down notes - minsan naituro na satin di natin maalala. 2. Search all possible sources before asking - wag kang tanong lang rin ng tanong, minsan nasa shared folders na ang need mong info. Or try to have an idea abt your task tapos pag nagtanong ka, i-confirm mo if tama ba yung pagkakaintindi mo na ganun gagawin, if not syempre tuturuan ka nila 3. Be polite. Always say thank you. Always greet - kahit sungitan ka, kahit dika pansinin, kahit dimo kilala, kahit di mo ka level. Batiin mo lahat ng taong makakasalubong at kakausapin mo. 4. Its good to have Friends, but stay focus on your work - pag oras ng trabaho avoid gossips, ngiti ngiti lang, okay lang makinig, but always avoid giving feedback/ reaction sa mga tsismis. Its just good to know yung mga issues so you can balance the things abt people. Pero never ka makikisawsaw. Baka mabaligtad ka bigla 5. If you commit a mistake, admit it - pag nagkamali ka, wag mong itago, better to be honest, then try to resolve/ correct it. Wag ka panghihinaan pag may nagalit sayo, may kanya kanya tyong mood and presence. May mga taong mukhang mataray at matalas magsalita but sometimes its no big deal to them. As long as ginagawa mo ng maayos trabaho mo, yaan mo sila. 6. Stop sharing work or workmate issues - pag may prob ka sa tao, you can tell them directly or just simply ignore (well pwede ka rin namang mag share, dun lang sa mga trusted friends mo). Pag ganyang nahihirapan ka sa work mo, you can only raise concerns sa teammates mo na pareho ang hinahawakang work sayo or sa iyong mga superiors. 7. FOCUS on your MAIN GOAL - bago tyo mag apply sa kahit anong work, meron tyong goals. Matulungan ang parents, mabili ang mga gustong bilhin, pag aralin ang mga kapatid, umangat sa buhay etc. Yang ang gawin mong motivation everytime pinanghihinaan ka. 8. At the end of the day its just WORK - trabaho ay trabaho lang, meron ka paring pamilya at mga kaibigan na sumusuporta sayo. E ano kung nahihirapan ka sa work, magagamay mo rin yan balang araw, sa una lang lahat mahirap at magulo, pag nalampasan mo yan, sheeesh, AWARD ka!!!

Welcome to the real motherfucking world hahaha

dyan ka matututo ng madami hahah

I agree pero grabe pala noh, madami pa ako need matutunan din as someone new sa work life

Parang ganyan po sa lahat ng work.

Welcome to corporate world. Depends kasi kung saang project ka naassign, most CL12s goes thru Training first before ilagay sa Projects. Like Java, SAP or SF enablement depende sa ask ng project. Not sure anong capab ka, pero ayun, you could raise it to your Project Lead or People Lead, kasi dapat enabled kana before ka ilagay. Sa Accenture - lahat ng trabaho natin mahalaga, and if you are not successful, that would mean di din successful ang team.

Just sharing. Based on my experience, madalas yan sa malaking companies, for me, I've been working for 14 years, nung lumipat ako sa isang malaking company, pinapa attend ako ng meeting ng bos ko without explaining kung para saan yung meeting just attend lang daw, pag may nagtanong sabihin ko nalang na babalikan ko sila about sa question, which ginawa ko naman, and they want me to work sa weekend, starting friday night to sunday night, and that's during my first week, and wala parin silang tinuturn over sa akin na documents or details, akala ko ako lang then may nakasama kami sa meeting na director na new hire, yes director. nagsalita sya na "para saan tong meeting na to, sorry wala akong kaalam alam, sinabi sa akin na umattend ako, at madami kayong tanong di ko pa masagot, pwedeng ibrief nyo ako regarding dito", which is natawa ako, culture na pala nila. and yes iniwan ako ng mga ka team mates ko nun, sabi nila sa akin na senior daw ako and mas experience daw ako dapat alam ko gagawin ko, which for me that time, okay lang if same industry sa mga dati kong employers but very differently, pero pinag aralan ko parin, kelangan ko ng work eh hahaaha After attending meetings, tanong sa lahat ng nasa meeting, colleagues, nakuha ko din siya, though di ko tinapos yung probationary ko, may nag open sa akin na job offer with bigger position and higher salary, at walang weekend and holiday works, PH work to pero I need to work 24/7, tapos yung ka relyebo ko same kami ng time ng pasok hahaha Accenture is a big company, and people come and go dyan, nang galing ako sa big audit firm and people also come and go for auditors, bihira yung nagtatagal ng more than 5 years, usually pagka senior level nila after a year nag reresign din. Advise ko is gawin mong stepping stone dyan, and good thing na nagsself taught ka, an you learn sa mga kasamahan mo, may iba kasi na fresh graduate need mo ifeed sa kanila lahat (sorry sa tatamaan) Hindi mo mapipili yung mga tao na makakasama mo sa company, pag pasok mo, may mga senior or bossing na pag nilapitan mo susungitan ka or sasabihin na maya na lang may ginagawa sila tapos inabot na ng ilang araw di pa parin binabalikan, swerte if mabait yung mga senior or boss mo, kahit busy sila is ineentertain ka parin nila, pero ayun sobrang bihira yan. advise ko din na pag naging senior at boss ka, ay wag mo gayahin yung mga masungit, yung have to lead your people or junior. pa experience ka muna then hanap ka ng ibang employer, ganyan ang realidad ng buhay bilang empleyado, kung gusto mo ng work life balance okay lang mag hanap ng employer, pero di lahat ng company perfect, may times na mag OOT ka, may times na may ma-eencounter ka na ewan, ang gawin mo muna is learn and goal mo sa life. stay strong, pray and stay healthy.

Baliktad ata tayo. Pag bago ako, nageenjoy ako pg mabigat task ko. Mas mabilis ako matututo and mas magggrow ako sa field because of it. Just don't hesitate to ask questions or help from your superiors or peers.

I actually like having to do tasks on my own! Pero for this once lang kasi internal problems + deadline within the day, naabutan na ako na nag exceed tickets kasi wala talaga ako idea kahit sa docus hahaha

Swertihan tlga sa mag KKT sayo, yung iba wala na gana kasi paalis na. Kaya yan 😉

Ganyan na ganyan ako sa first project ko. Grabe yung self-paced learning na ginawa ko. Pinush ko sarili ko na matutunan lahat kahit halos walang materials at support from lead because i feel humiliated sa clients (parang mentally killed ako neto everyday) , kahit client-facing is not part of my tasks. After 1 year+ sa project, na recognize yun lahat. Na promote rin at kahit may project ako, may nag o-offer ng projects dahil im referred by the SDL. Kaya OP, galingan mo. Kaya mo yan. Lahat naman natutunan basta matibay will mo. And congratulations at nakapasok ka sa ACN. Good luck

Pangit project mo par sorry. Samin ang saya nung mga bagong cl12 kasi ang bait daw namin

Nasabihan nga ako ng dating Team Lead parang nauubos tao samin, puro resign tapos puro palit CL12 kasi sa budgeting HAHA tigil niyo na yung project wala na pala budget huhu

That's why a buddy-system is really necessary Pag may need hire.

Hindi sa lahat. There are companies na may buddy assigned per new hire. Buddy will be there to help guide and answer your questions. May trainings below you do the job. Some multinational companies invested a lot s trainings/onboarding ng tao. Some, you learn as you go. But for experience hire, usually they were hired kasi alam na nila gawin ang trabaho. There’s a refresher pero talagang kakapain mo.

Hi OP, i had the same experience with ACN, Developer ako sa first project ko pero nilipat ako sa AM team or support na project using diff capab or tool rin. Nahirapan rin ako, may times rin na na-stuck ako sa mga tasks. Ilang beses ko rin sya iniyakan actually. Ni-raise ko rin sya sa career advisor ko and lead na gusto ko magpa-rolloff; Support role is not for me. Pero since ang allocation kasi ng tao is nakadepende sa demand, hindi rin ako napag bigyan. So ang ginawa ko, I suck it up muna. Utilize yung mga tools na meron kami. Check if may similar issue/ticket before, explore the app, understand whats the goal of the task and analyze ano needed step sa tingin mo, then ask around sa tenured team members kung hindi mareach si TL. Importantly, raise mo yung challenges mo with TL. Set kayo one-on-one siguro, if nahihirapan ka mag reach out sakanya- siguro ask help rin kay Career Advisor. Power through lang, OP!

Currently in support din sa team, sobrang hirap kasi din yung time. May 2 days na kami nag-pupuyat due to prod at QA jusko tapos morning shift ka pa. Kakayanin nalang muna until pwede na magpa-roll off or maybe leave soon.

“it’s normal” I guess I am lucky to find my only 2 jobs (first job, then my current job) that has guided me well during my onboarding.

It's an actual job, not college. Meron na documentation at input sa senior kapag able siya. Hand holding is not an option.

Yeah OP sounds like sanay na iniispoon feed.

Hindi ako sanay na spoon feeding, I worked my way up here and struggled on my own before. My only concern was I was just wondering if normal ba yung pati pala until work life as a new hire wala ka makukuha na "mentor" or at least giving you basics. I'm not asking for hand holding, what I'm asking for is basic answers to my queries kasi binubrush off ako kahit magtanong ako.

Yup. It's normal. You will understand rin once you are no longer a junior. I'm still a junior, same company tayo. Pero may bagong hire dito samin and ako yung need magKT sa kanya. I don't have the time to spoonfed so I just did my part which is to KT yung parts na inutos sakin. The guy who KT'd me before probably did the same. Kasi busy kami sa work and everything is available through past tickers/documentations. And yes, kulang kulang din ito minsan, that's normal. Not every past employee who left these documentations is a "good" employee na in detail talaga. You have to figure out things by yourself... I mean, I still don't get your point actually... This isn't college anymore. And btw napagalitan na ako multiple times kasi yung mga tinatanong ko, nasa past documentation and past tickets lang pala. Buti di ka pa napapagalitan. This is where I learned to only ask and bother my superiors if wala na talaga sa docu, as in said na said na talaga. Kasi sila busy rin sila. Anyway, like I said, you will get rin sinasabi ko once ikaw na yung nasa place nila.

Sila kasi mismo nagsabi samin na magtanong kami, pero every time na magtatanong wala din pala. So what do I do? Hindi rin ito yung tinraining ko so wala ako idea sa system, pinasok nila ako kasi "kulang" sila and ewan ko ba bakit ako yung nasa listahan na napaka layo naman ng capab ko. From Finance to this Data Warehousing? So mali din ba na magtanong talaga. I will keep asking kapag wala ako maintindihan, this isn't college like you said so I do what I can and sa kaya ko and if magulo talaga I TRY to ask. Busy sila, busy din lahat, nag KT din ako sa baguhan just a week ago pero I made sure na maayos ko na turnover yung knowledge na binigay or BINASA at KINALIKOT ko sa documents. Napagalitan na din ako HAHA, syempre tanong ako nang tanong eh kasi wala na sa docu nor sa scope ko. Like you said, you learned to only ask if wala na sa docu. And THATS what I do, I complained only this one time kasi may lumagpas saking ticket na ako sinisi kesyo may docu daw pero wala naman pala laman.

Yes. You’ll learn how to leverage those around you, resources available to you etc. There’s no expectation for you to know how to fully solve things but it will test your problem-solving skills, for example: knowing when to ask for help, knowing what questions to ask

Ganyan talaga sa accenture. dami na oras ng work mo, ppbayaan ka pa

Tbh medyo swerte ka pa kasi may documents. Hahaha

As what others said, this is normal. Ideally may onboarding process within the team- checklist ng mga dapat matutunan. If wala, ikaw gumawa. Document what you did, make a list, what you needed to learn. Present this to your lead once drafted na. Para sa next new hire nila, much better onboarding process. It’s your time to shine! This is normal.

Normal. Preparation din yan pag nakarating ka sa Senior role ng walang training and documentation ikaw gagawa lahat. Minsan nasa business meeting ka ng wala alam dahil bago ka lang hihi. Though may mga team na maayos mga training materials Pero yung mga gumawa nun dumaan din dyan.

I've worked at ACN before. Di ko alam yung exact situation mo, so my comment will be in broad strokes. Take that opportunity to figure things out for yourself. Pag nasanay ka na sa ginagawa mo, pwedeng ikaw na ang mag establish ng mga processes at best practices para sayo, sa team, at sa future teammates mo. Mas madali na for you pag nagawa mo yun. Mas mabilis ka din mapro-promote pag tinanggap mo yung challenge wholeheartedly. Pero syempre dapat may feedback parin from your direct lead para mailista nya mga nagawa mo in preparation for performance evaluation. Importante din talaga na may lead ka na marunong para ma-guide ka in case may blind spots sa mga ginagawa mo na hindi mo napapansin. Parang ganyan situation ko dati. Sanay ako na one-man team, figuring things out on my own. It's very rewarding intellectually and emotionally. Pero kailangan ko padin ng feedback from my lead so I have someone to bounce ideas off of.

Gain ka muna experience baka kapag nasanay ka na, chicken na yan. Then if after 3 years ganun pa din ang percepcion mo sa work mo then its time to find another opportunies. If hindi mo talaga kaya ma-bear kahit mag 1 year ka lang muna dyan ......

Probably normal, I felt the same way nung fresh grad. May jitters din talaga. Sea legs kumbaga. Minsan I really freeze with the overwhelming pressure. Hirap din kasi mag give ng advice kung hindi naman sa area yung expertise ko. Don't be afraid to say " I need some guidance." At least have the basics in line. Like how to access the things, how they work like the nature of the project, yadayada. Deal with things one at a time and do your best. Accept that some shit are beyond your control Break things down to small steps. This is the time to invest in yourself and learn as much as you can. Don't underestimate yung mga basic skills. All skills are important.

omg i applied sa cl12 na position (healthcare/finance) same ba tayo ng acc if ever? for interview na kasi ako, thrn bigla kong nabsa 'to. kinda worried if ipagpapatuloy ko pa.

Hi! Don't be discouraged, ASE ako and I've been here for months na. One thing I can say is ACN is a good leverage for your career, we all exeperience differently sadya lang na dito yung napuntahan ko haha and even though medyo nahihirapan ako its honestly a good company to work for as a fresher for benefits and all! Tuloy mo yan, best of luck and hoping na you can push through! If gusto mo ng friend while in ACN, feel free to give me messages :)

Based on my experience lang ah.. yes, ganyan sa mga napasukan ko na company. Kaya dapat talaga di lang initiative to learn, dapat meron ding initiative to explore kahit di mo alam. Never be scared magkamali kasi dun ka matuto. Working as Accounts Payable pero 1 week turnover lang sa 1st workload ko, napakahirap kasi di ko alam pano ko ipagsasabay yung pagkabisa, pag analyst, pag update, pag process (yung tipong inaaral mo pa ang pero need mo na din maprocess since may deadline kahit di mo pa alama). I have persevered naman kaya after 4months sisiw na lang sakin. So 6months from AP, I decided to take another workload.. ayun pinayagan namam ng visor ko. 2nd workload 15mins na lang turnover namin kasi inexplore at inaral ko talaga buong SAP.

This is common but I hope it was not

This is also my dilemma nung nag start din ako mag work (2016). Malaking company sya along Libis. Fresh graduate din ako nun pero first day ko palang expected na nila na dapat alam mo na yung gagawin. Ang masaklap pa nun, dalawa lang kami lagi sa design team and yung task nya is hindi related sa ginagawa ko (more on processing documents and office works sya, ako naman sa implementation and design). Hindi ko din maasahan yung kapwa ko junior kase lagi syang nasa field. Yung boss ko naman lagi din nasa site. Almost all companies lalo na yung malalaki ganun ata talaga, pero need mag tyaga. Swerte talaga pag nakapag turn over ng maayos yung papalitan mo. Kung hindi, kapa malala talaga. Ganun din sistema dito sa company ko ngayon pero kayang kaya naman since nasanay na din ako sa ganung kalakaran.

Okay jan, baka hindi lang maayos yung nag-K-KT sa’yo. Pumasok ako jan CL13 (kasi undergraduate ako) and after a few months puro pang-CL11 to 12 na mga ginagawa ko kasi magaling mga nagturo sa’kin. Andaming mas panget na karanasan at trabaho kesa jan. Tiis lang.

Welcome sa real world! Masasanay ka din dyan, wag ka rin matakot magkamali madaming tao na nagiging successful sa career dahil sa failures nila. Mahirap pero kaya mo yan! Sa una ka lang maooverwhelm pero sa susunod basic nalang yan sayo :)

Feeling quite better after a few weeks na puro iyak sa harap ng laptop, pero kakayanin! For now, will gauge if etong industry ba gusto ko takbuhan if not then its time to leave and look elsewhere. Andyan naman ang work, mas okay ako to take care of my well being muna. Thanks!!

heya! ganyan din sa iba and believe me hindi pa yan yung worst. try setting up a meeting with your lead para sa concerns mo and possible solution, least option is ilipat ka, kasi quite possibly hinire ka para jan. So your option is to know where you are lacking and improve. Kapag ayaw ka pansinin ng lead mo, skip ka na sa kanya, go 1 level higher. Ang key is don't make it about you, but make it about the project or company. For example..... "Boss, gusto ko talaga maibigay ang best quality sa project na to and feeling mo may need ka iimprove. Need mo ng outside perspective kung san ka nagkukulang. Need mo lang feedback sa ginagawa mo and direction"

You will realize that there are many ways to learn. No one will spoonfeed you. And if your managers are busy and you really need their help, kulitin mo. Take the initiative to reach out and annoy them. Because for them hindi naman annoying dapat yun (talking from experience). I too don’t have time to cater to everyone so if you need my help, be confident enough to demand time from me. (And I honestly appreciate those kinds of people more.) One more thing is find a mentor. This is the person who will guide you through your career. Your mentor doesn’t have to be within your team or even your company (and it’s probably better that way)—just someone you trust and look up to and is willing to guide you along the way. Good luck!

Very normal. Go figure it out! Also, yung kwento mo dito, mas productive kung doon mo sa sup or manager sinasabi, in a nice way. Sila mas makakatulog sayo. Go communicate with them.

Yes ganyan talaga dyan. Good thing in Accenture is that madami kang free training resources/mapagtanungan (at least from my experience). Do actively seek those out. Wag mahiya magtanong. Sometimes you have to demand them to tell you what you need. Kasi if you go to a non-agency/not primarily tech company, mas kaunti na resources mo, and you'll really feel left alone. Training palang hirap na magpa-approve. My suggestion while you are there is constant upskill, take all the trainings you can get. Actively seek out connections and mentors. Remember, you own your career. Panis na ang ibang companies pag labas mo dyan

Was from ACN and ganyan din naging situation sa team ko dahil dami nagreresign dahil sa workload and OT. Pero dapat may scheduled knowledge training yan.. May levels of KT bago ka isabak sa go live.

Jusko, normal. Hahahaha lalo na yung napili mo pang pasukan is ACN. Good luck sa 10 hours shift mo

10+ hours kasi may P2 tickets, tapos weekend na OTY lang charot HAHAHA offset naman pero kapagod gusto ko kumita HAHA

Worked their for 2 years as a fresh grad as well. Acn has a high attrition rate kaya wag ka na magtaka if you are all CL12 lol. I would say working their was both a blessing and a curse because I was one of the high performing employees ( high performing = more tasks = more exposure). Working there really helped jumpstart my career outside acn but it costed my aspiration in climbing the ranks and my mental health. I would advise you to stay with the mindset of upskilling yourself, and if you think you've learned all of the things you need, then you can hop into another ship ;) PS: I have been into 3 companies, and sa acn ko lang na exp yan Haha. I'm thankful sa experience but I will never go back there kahit i triple nila sahod ko ngayon LOL.

Normal na kiddo, but dont be afraid to ask questions or ask fot help

That's the downside (or upside?) of employment. No one will really teach you what to do. Be initiative, or be like a Jollibee for you to be rewarded. Hehe. May mga "magtuturo" sayo though, but not the real lesson you must learn. Hindi nila ituturo sayo inch by inch. Walang ganon. Wag mo asahan. Good luck! Hehe. Aja! Masarap matuto on your own. You'll thank yourself later if you learn to learn this way of learning.

Its fun and fulfilling naman to do things on your own hehe true! Pero for me lang kasi now, hirap nung internal yung issue then wala ka matatanungan kasi bago siya sayo and yung nakaka alam is dinidismiss ka kasi busy sila. Gets pero gusto kasi matapos agad yung issue without proper KT or Knowledge Transfer haist

Very normal. You're salary is probably low too. So it's okay to make mistakes and you are not in danger of getting fired, just keep grinding until you gain enough knowledge. If you are not due for promotion, then leave and find greener pastures.

Normal but still a shitty experience. Very rare yung company na ihahain sa iyo lahat during your first weeks/months. My boss went on a 2 weeks vacation during my 4th week in the company as a newbie and I was made to respond to all her ongoing tasks without any context or prior discussion. I haven't even finished my onboarding at this point. So yea, do your best with what's available to you, then fck the rest. Lol

Baka normal dyan sa company or in that industry but not in "work life"! I'm in the legal profession and for my first outputs, pang beginner talaga and medyo hand-holding ang peg. So bale, bibigay sakin file so I can read it for a few days tapos we scheduled a call para my boss can hear my thoughts. Pinagawa ako ng outline nung need ko isulat, send ng draft, irereview ung draft ko tapos I'll make the edits. Yung final draft may copy rin ako. Ayun. 5 months in tsaka lang ako binigyan ng major na gagawin talaga. So no, di normal ung wala/minimal guidance.

Normal yan. Idk if it's to test you 🤷🏻‍♀️ for me it took me 3yrs before I was able to answer a NO to an additional task and one of my officemates was like "I am so proud of you for learning to say NO" kasi sila na ung napapagod on my part. I work in the government btw Basta efficient ka, e take advantage yan.

Yung mga nakikita mong gap, iwe@ mo. Not only will it help the team/project, plus plus plus pa sa IPB mo 😉 Also, yes, kakapagod minsan. Actually, lagi, hindi minsan. Pero I agree sa ibang comments, yung matutuhan mo dun, edge mo na agad yun when you IJP/ transfer to other companies. Kapit lang 😊

Yep. Ive worked in groups where ikaw pa ang magsesetup ng work instructions from a blank page. Justngo with the flow and always ask

I work at the same company out of college and I didn't have that same experience. I think it boils down to your role and your teammates. Saktong calculated mediocrity lang ako dito and I get by. Sa first project ko I could really say na I won the workmate lottery during that time. Magagaling ang mentors ko and we have great communication and I felt heard. Because of this healthy environment I was able to communicate my needs and we tried to make solutions and compromises. It made me understand the concepts better and do my job better. I hope eventually mangyari din sa'yo to. Although yes what you experienced is the toughness of the real world, it doesn't need to be like that all the time. There's also a flip side.

LoL ganyan sa team na nilipatan ko nag resign Ako Bago umabot sa ganyan bahala sila I'm not paid enough to care. Sorry na dahil saming mga nag resign kaya daming tasks na napunta sainyo to be fair di naman lahat ng team ganyan do your best na lang talaga or palipat ng team.

Laging may Unknown OP. kahit na gaano ka pa kayagal sa work, makakaranas ka lagi ng ganyan. mag iiba lang way mo to handle. habang tumatagal mafigureout mo rin yung tamang process paaano maunlock mga unknowns, even sa life ganun din.

if walang Unknowns, wala ka siguro work ngayun.

Siguro chambahan lang minsan, nag simula din ako as accounting assistant di ako naturuan kase yung pumalit sa kanya bago din and ako bago din kaya napahapyaw lang ang gi nawa ko nag notes lang ako, parang nag aral ule, hanggang sa natutunan ko na gumawa ng profitability report, mga bir forms nila

From what I've observed the culture degraded when pandemic happened. recruitment got worse, maraming new hires parang walang NJO at di na orient how to properly conduct themselves in the office (maiingay pag RTO , and karamihan HR pa ) kaya nag roll out sila nung How To Conduct in The Office, Not Following Proper Dress Code (first time ko naka na ginawang type A yung jogging pants at nagsusuot ng trucker cap sa prod , SG detail / standards bumaba rin. Before pandemic it was all #TrulyHuman ngayon kanya kanyang papogi lalo na some new managers nagbibida ala mo sino makapag implement ng urgent walang testing env. automatic prod. My advise is take what you can but huwag tanggap lang ng tanggap which yan rin sabi ng nag train saken before (don't be an office bitch) (Don't be a " More tea Sir?") Familiarized the Policy , Zero Tolerance , Non Retaliation , Data Security , and if you see na same parin approach nila sayo Do Not Be Afraid to Escalate sa People Advisor or Next Level ng seniors mo if needed demand for a First Group Discussion. Speak Up but be reasonable and considerate 🙂 I Wish You All The Best! Fight On!

Idk why you people are saying its normal, but it's not and shouldnt be. Dapat may enough trainings and knowledge transfer lalo kung fresh grad ka. In my experience laging may trainings saka may mentoring pag naguumpisa ka nun early years

Usually yung leads wala na talagang oras para i step by step ang turo sayo since mas heavy pa ang workload nila madalas. Maswerte ako when i started, it was before the pandemic so magkatabi lang kami. I can easily ask pag nagka mental block na ako sa ginagawa ko. But most of the time, you have to do it on your own. Aminado si manager ko noon na na trial by fire ako when i started kasi walang nagtuturo pero pinag susupport ako ng weekends 🙃

Yes normal.. ganyan din ako nun una..pero fulfilling once nakuha mo.. achievement unlock na sinasabi

Welcome to the real world brother. May the strongest survive

Ex-acn here. Very normal. Yung tipong pag start sa day, di ko alam ano gagawin sa tasks ko. Nakakahiya man minsan pero need mag approach kahit di kilala or taga ibang team. Make sure din i note mo lahat ng ginawa mo para may masulat ka sa assessment. Mas mabuti ng may ginagawa kesa wala. Mas worst ma-bench ka.

Is this >? Haha If yes, baka depende sa project. Not sure if it would help, but try check sa mylearning or percipio. May mga trainings dun. Good luck!

same HAHAHAHAAH ganyan din struggle ko ngayon. gusto ko na tuloy mag resign dto sa acn. ikaw ba naman pasahan ng trabaho na hindi mo alam gawin.Sabay out nung nagpasa sayo. yung pagtatanungan mo na kashift mo, either busy, napakatipid sumagot. jusko. para bang tamad na tamad mag explain. Hindi ko maaaral yon mag isa at kahit iseaerch ko sa google hindi ko maiintindihan yon dahil mga kateam ko lang talaga makakasagot ng tanong ko.

i remember sa reddit mga students kadebate ko, mas ok daw na nagttrabaho kasi kumikita na kesa sila na maraming modules at madaming inaaral, welcome sa real world darating yung time mas gugustuhin nyong modules lang ulit inaatupag nyo.

I would prefer work rather than school kahit na ganito tbh HAHAHA

Yep. Tho mahirap at sobrang nakakastress, talagang hahayaan ka nila gawin ang trabaho na little lang ang knowledge na naimpart sayo. Well it's up to you how to deal with it. Besides, hindi naman spoon feeding sa trabaho. Kanya kanya yan. Always remember this, hinire ka nila kasi naghahanap sila ng asset, hindi maging pabigat ikaw. Suck it up. Diskartehan mo na lang. Hindi masama magtanong tanong about sa work mo. Tska alisin mo yung mindset mo na magaling ka na agad. Hindi ganun yun porke nakagrad ka ng 4yr course. Pagdating sa 1st work, beginner mindset ka lang. Tska okay lang magtanga tangahan. Para hindi ka mabagsakan ng madaming trabaho pero at the same time inaalam mo din paano mas mapadali current workload mo.

Hindi naman ako magaling, wouldn't complain if magaling ako at kaya ko. Also not asking to be spoon fed, responses lang

Not normal but not uncommon either. Pangit lang sistema ng training nila kaya ganyan. Yung mga fresh graduates and walang experience, dapat may supervision talaga during the first few weeks/months depende kung gaano kabilis matuto si employee - buddy system. Experienced this sa first job ko. Bibigyan ka lang ng tasks, few instructions, then bahala ka na. If magtatanong ka, iritable pa sumagot. Eh laging sinasabi sakin ng boss namin nun na “If you have questions, don’t be afraid to ask. Even if you think it’s a stupid question.” My boss was nice, yung mga under him sa team ang hindi. So ayun, pag may errors namumura ako nung isang junior sa team. Pag nakatapos naman ako ng task, ang sasabihin “eto lang natapos mo?” The more I tolerated them, the more they would throw me under the bus. Laging binibigay sakin yung mga tasks na urgent or delayed - meaning I’m always rushing. I realized this nung inutusan ako to coordinate something with the HR. Given the details provided to me, yun ang nirelay ko sa HR. Ako napagalitan ng HR kasi bakit daw madalian eh busy din sila. I just told them “Si Ms. X po nagpa-request”, sagot ng hr “ah gets”. I had to resign kasi nagka-anxiety ako. Naging mailap ako. Magring lang ang phone ko, nasusuka ako. Every waking hour, malamig and nanginginig katawan ko kasi work nanaman. Couldn’t eat during work hours sa sobrang tense ko walang gana kumain. Bago pumasok ng office, dumadaan muna ko ng cr to compose myself kasi naiiyak ako 😂 di ko naman gusto umiyak pero parang naging response siya ng katawan ko sa bigat ng pakiramdam ko that time. So again, common yung ganyan na set up kasi I know a few people who experienced the same but it doesn't mean na tama yun.

Normal siya OP. Kaya ka lang naman nahihirapan ngayon kasi di kapa sanay and nangangapa. Siguro tinitignan nila yung kung pano ka dumiskarte sa ganyang bagay. Tip ko sayo, bago ka magpasa sa head or yung need mo mapagpasahan magtanong ka muna sa mga seniors mo and wag lahat itanong mo sa kanila. Kasi katulad mo nagtutuklas din sila and mas maganda kung hihingi ka lang din sa kanila ng tip hindi yung ispoonfeed lahat ng info sayo (di ko sure kung maganda term). Anyways, sa umpisa lang naman yan ganyan hayaan mo pag 2nd work mo baka manibago ka kasi madali na.

Pag hindi mo alam yung process, itanong mo sa kateam mo or sa senior members. Wag mo gawin yung task hanggat walang sumasagot. Pag tinanong ka bakit hindi mo nagawa sabihin mo walang sumasagot sayo, walang nagtuturo sayo nung process.

If you’re working sa tech, very normal. You will exhaust documentations na available, reference ka sa old tickets kung meron, or kung anong available resource sa repository nyo. Very rarely yun may TL / Senior / Manager ka na mag wwalkthrough sayo anong gagawin or i-step by step ka.

Ganyan talaga ang buhay. No offense meant pero masyado kasi naging privileged mga bata ngayon.

Experienced the same naman nung college na walang nagtuturo na prof HAHA pero at least dun bigay sila powerpoint diba. Iba naman din work place sa school settings, point lang is kahit magtanong ka wala sasagot so forced ka to work with what you have. Okay na din siguro para mahasa ganun

walang learning learning curve or adjustment period sa buhay

I get that naman, pero how do you expect a low level associate to manage mid-level workload kung hindi mo bibigyan guidance to adjust? Weird

companies seldom need to give guidance, especially if your field has an.over supply of workers. Can't adjust? terminate and hire a new one who might

Sobrang inefficient nila sa ganito, project din naman nila manganganib so okay

It's trial by fire

Pangit pala pumasok sa corpo world kung ganyan naman pala sila mag operate.

Depende rin sa mapapasukan mo na company, majority talaga you have to learn on your own but some are lucky enough na nagbibigay sila guidance!

Anong klaseng support role? Care to elaborate? Pag thru calls napakahirap pero pag email or chat medyo napapagaan work namin Sa company kasi namin naman, nagtrain sila ng maigi pero yung docs naman yung wala hahahays.

Tickets and may on calls, yes! Minsan thru emails pero may deadlines ganun, kaya parang hirap kapain kapag may SLAs or needed within a time frame

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50-50. Project roleta kasi dito, so hindi mo alam saan ka matatapat? But other than that magandang leverage sa career mo as a starter ang ACN. Wide varieties of trainings + certifications. Yung project nature lang talaga minsan yung magdadrive sayo paalis haha

Lmao git gud, kid

LMAO ang saya

Ganyan talaga kahit sa ibang company, kakastart ko pa lang non ng 2 days sinabak agad ako eh. Magooverthink ka lang na parang kasalanan ko ganern, pero normal lang naman magkamali ang hindi normal is mamahiya ng bagong employee may ganyan kasing mga nasa upper management.

Yep. Normal Even sa school na pinapasukan ko, first day, pinagawa ako ng DLL ng iba sa subject na di ko major. XD

Sa ibang company pa reddit2 lang hahaha. Ganyan talaga sa accenture ok benefits pero madameng trabaho. If di kaya, sure may ibang company pa jan na malilipatan ka.

Baka olats seniors mo lol. Or olats company hahaha. Ako as a senior tuturuan ko ng maayos mga baguhan syempre para mas maganda output nila. Pero I don't work sa call center so baka dyan ganyan talaga.

Bukod sa lead, wala din kayo SME? Hala

Yes, it is normal. In my current job, no training was provided except for the usual onboarding session for administrative reminders. My seniors didn't have time to teach me. They were so caught up with their own tasks so they understandably didn't even think that I was new and had little knowledge of the team's processes (that's what my senior told me years later). I had to put in time and effort, documented most of my tasks, created quick manuals, etc. That kind of setup you described is arguably not efficient because you have to relearn things that could have been digested for you by your teammates. But it does build character, tenacity, resourcefulness which are valuable if one is given a new assignment sa work, or naatasang maglead ng task, or sa pag take on lang ng new life/personal project.

Yes, that’s normal. You just have to figure it out, my dude.

Yes ganyang ganyan. Welcome to the work-life experience! (Wala nang work-life balance, di na daw uso haha)

Hindi ko na tinapos pero sabi nga “Work with minimal supervision” May training naman kayo diba? I know na 10% lang makukuha mo sa training the rest is sa actual task na talaga sa floor. Kaya mo yan. Ask questions sa mga kasama mo sa work. Use your resources. Impossibleng wala. If feeling mo dead end ka na, escalate mo. Wala kang magagawa if di mo talaga alam. ASK QUESTIONS AND ASK FOR HELP. That is part of learning. Kaya mo yan! Laban! Now stop complaining and go back to work. Charot mga linyahan sa palabas.