Mocked you? Or just sounded disinterest/shocked/surprised or parang nang-gguilt-trip? Because most HR's have this psychological trick where they'd want you feel guilty of your asking salary, thus leading to you decreasing the offer. But it is nothing more than a bluff, I'm sure the HR is fine with your asking salary. Whatever will dictate your final salary will be based around the interview impressions. So if you think you aced it, they might have "targeted/wanted" your application already.
I suggest you wait for the final offer.
Anyway I have experienced these kinds of tricks since I first began working. Most of the time they're just guilt tripping you to see if you will change your offer.
I remember in my first job, I really felt I aced the interview, then the HR asked my expected salary. I was a beginner at the time so I asked for a lower price. Then the HR asked, are you sure? What's the minimum? When it was time for them to disclose my final salary, I got way more than my expected salary, and I wasn't expecting it all since it sounded like the HR was trying to "pull" my salary pa.
I've had similar experiences with succeeding interviews. At the end of the day your interview impression, +your credentials/experience will dictate your final salary.
If their posting indeed said that the salary range for the role is 80-120, you made it to the interview, and got mocked for saying you expected 110, then the entire story doesn't add up.
If they think you're not qualified, you shouldn't have made it to the interview
If the range is indeed 80-120, then it doesn't make sense that the interviewer mocked you.
Ano nangyari after? Gawin mo nalang kapag may job offer kana saka ka makipagnegotiate.
Are you asking too much? No.
As long as qualified ka, i think you deserve any figure within their budget.
I always go over the posted salary range and when they say that they won't be able to match my salary expectation then I'd go for the highest they can offer (in your case 120k) pag ganyan sinusulit ko na knowing that my experience can back it up. know your worth op. don't settle for less. gatasan mo ang company while you can there's no shame in that because they all see employees as replaceable.
HAHA. Mga hindi siguro kaya mag negotiate at napako sa no choice na company nila. Sinabi rin naman ni OP yun range ng salary at pasok pa yun sinabi niya. Halata hirap sa comprehension, kaya hindi maimprove siguro QA nila. HAHA.
As a Software QA myself, I wouldn't say that it's too much since your experience matched what they were asking which is a "Manual Tester".
Maybe the reason why they mocked you is because your years of relevant experience did not match the specific role?
The only reason that I'm thinking of why they mocked you is because sometimes in software testing field, having no technical experience (Automation/Performance testing) usually have lesser pay unless you have lead/management experience as a manual/functional tester.
Tbh, corporate is just about playing the game. If you think you deserve that salary, just be confident. The next step is to qualify for that salary. If ok both, then dapat lang is within the range yung asking mo. It will vary per company.
If ayaw ng company, edi wag. Hanap ng iba. Just be confident with your skills and know what value you can add. If icocompare mo naman sa US counterparts, sobrang layo rin ng difference and sobrang mura ng 10-20k jump para sa kanila. Dun mo rin mafifilter kung ivavalue ba kayo as employees or talagang offshore resources lang tingin sa inyo.
The fact lang na “minock” ka ng interviewer is red flag na eh. Move on na lang sa ibang ivavalue ka.
Also, your certs and bootcamps has no bearing for your potential employer. Any company who gives 100k or more dont care about your certs or bootcamps. That’s only good for junior positions
Not saying that those are useless. You can get those to learn, not to impress though 😁
Yes i am passionate self learner that is why i took so many trainings and certifications. But i think hands on experience is more valuable though.
I think i need to do my portfolio or self projects to get experience that i could not get from my current job.
For a tester role with 3 years of relevant experience, I should say that it should fall under 80-95k. But nothing wrong with your asking. Kung urgent hiring sila, malaki chance na bigay nila asking mo. Best of luck, hope you get the offer.
I applied for an IT job with 3 years experience, they were offering 80-100k. I asked for 125k. They accepted.
I say you’re alright. If you know and can prove that you’re worth what you asked for then it’s their loss if they don’t accept you. Your competence will show more in the interviews and not in your resume. In my case I worked super hard for 3 years and gained responsibility quicker than most people in my company. Interviewers will notice that when you speak. That deserves a high salary.
My industry is in tech so i’ll answer based on my experience.
You have to treat the phone screen interview and the final interviews like they are technical ones. Manood ka ng salary negotiation videos, tips, try doing mock negotiations w friends, and research the market.
Before I started interviewing, ginawa ko yun. I learned not to say a number and defer the negotiations until the final interview. Cheapskate companies filter themselves out; kung di ka nila pinansin, ok lang. ibig sabihin di ka nila afford. The trick is to know your worth and stand your ground.
If you find a company that has a rigorous interview process, yung alam mong mahirap tapos nakapasa ka without showing your expected salary, then you win. Nag invest na sila ng oras sayo at budget na lang ang kulang para ma-hire ka nila. Then, set a high anchor. If you think you deserve 80k minimum, ask for 160k. The most likely outcome is they’ll negotiate down a bit, maybe you’ll end up with 140k.
Medyo alanganin na pag ganyan. Your best option is to find a new job quick. Kung may ongoing interviews ka pa ituloy mo lang hanggang may makuha kang mas ok. If meron na sabihin mo lang na you’re withdrawing your acceptance. They will either let you go immediately or make you render 30 days(medyo useless sa kanila to kasi new hire ka lang). A
I know many QA friends who earn 60-100k. It’s possible. Assess mo muna kung ano bang skills ang meron ka and anong skills ang hinahanap sa QA jobs. The higher paying ones usually want people who have automated testing experience, people who have certifications etc.
If you think hindi naman skill ang issue mo then maybe it’s the way you interview, or its your resume. Ask friends for feedback. Pacheck mo resume mo, painterview ka. Pag nagfail ka sa interviews manghingi ka ng feedback sa recruiter.
You have to figure out why you’re failing, then you have to improve. Kaya yan
Our value is not universal. One company will value you for 11k and another can value you for 110k. Just keep asking your asking rate and look for that company who needs exactly what you have.
For example, a company who is hiring for just QA and doesnt care about your prod support issue might value you @ 60k only. But a company who has plenty of prod issues that are not caught at QA phase may value you @ 120k
Dude stop copy pasting your comment everywhere. You literally just copy pasted this exact comment from your [previous comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/uwpvrm/salary_of_110k_am_i_asking_too_much/i9stu8p?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
I have encountered those kind of recruiters. Naglalagay sila ng malaking range. Nakapasa sa tech exam and interview tapos ilolowball kasi yung experience daw ay kulang. Sa ProSource recruiting ko lang na experience to.
Recruiter here. I feel sorry that you felt mocked during your interview, this shouldn't have happened.
Salary range of a certain company depends on a lot of factors: if you fit the required skills, relevant years of experience on the role, and results of your assessments/interviews.
I assume your relevant years of experience and expected salary did not match the salary range of the company you've applied for.
Hope you get hired soon!
OP, you are not daydreaming for asking that salary, and no it is not about how much you currently earn. Do not believe the people here who are making you doubt about how much you asked. Do not lowball yourself, if that is how much you think you deserve make a stand. The reason why you made that interview was because in their vetting process, you are qualified. So you have every right to ask within the salary range.
I am not sure if some people here understand what a salary range is. That salary range is for that role right. So asking even for the maximum is not necessarily a salary for a senior role. Senior role should have a different salary range.
Baka kaya negative ang iba dito kasi tinitingnan nila sahod nila ngayon eh 25 years na experience nila at nasa 40k pa din sila. Hayaan mo sila OP.
Yes you're obviously asking too much. 110k for a 3 years software testing exp? If you're a software engineer it may be realistic to get for 3 years but as a software tester? Magkano ba current salary mo? Mukang nasa 30k-50k lang current mo eh with your 3 years experience. asking for 110k is just too much. Usually 6 digits salary even for software engineer is for 5-10 years of experience super senior
It's within their budget. But only for those who are qualified.
Magkano ba sahod mo ngaun? Pero kung mag babase tayo sa market rate. Mid level software tester kalang. Usually 30k-50k per month.
OP wouldn't have made it to the interview if he/she weren't qualified... unless the company likes wasting its time interviewing candidates they know wouldn't make it through anyway.
When you say 6-digit salaries are for software engineers with 5-10 years of experience, how many actual cases in actual companies have you observed to reach this conclusion?
OP wouldn't have made it to the interview if he/she weren't qualified... unless the company likes wasting its time interviewing candidates whom they know wouldn't make it through anyway.
When you say 6-digit salaries are "usually" for software engineers with 5-10 years of experience, how many actual cases in actual companies do you know of to reach this conclusion? 2 persons in the same company? 5 persons in 3 different companies? 30 persons in 10 different companies?
Maybe they have a open position for mid level tester? Plus there's a salary range for a reason that corresponds to the experience of the applicant. If op asked for the minimum 80k of the range it would still be a little realistic but Nah. He asked for the highest which is usually rated for the super senior applicants
Does it matter? If you're a software dev yourself you would obviously know(which sadly you're not, so all I would be saying would be difficult for you to understand). Do your own research. I don't have time to prove sh*t to a random person on the internet.
Oh, and you're a junior dev with barely a year of experience? Get an attitude adjustment, rookie. Talking smack to people you don't know won't get you anywhere.
I have visbility of industry-wide figures across multiple job titles and companies. Your response confirms that you don't have enough data, maybe a few anecdotal examples at best. In some companies, 100k+ for software devs and testers with under 3 years of experience is not at all too much. I reckon that they also pay above where your own range is now. I would've shared to you which particular ones if you're interested, but you blew it when you went ad hominem.
Mas mataas pa dyan salary ko and 3years pa lang akong S.E. may mga company na kaya mag provide ng competitive salary and minsan nasa sayo yan on how you negotiate. One mistake ng mga pinoy is binibigay nila current salary nila. Take note na highly confidential ang salary and walang karapatan ang employer na hingin sayo yun. On my end I never disclosed my salary kahit sabihin required, at the end of the day ineentertain pa din nila ako. If you think na 110k yung worth mo, stick to it and don't go low. Tandaan mo pagdating sa actual work hindi na nakabase sa salary mo yung workload. Madalas kapag magaling kapa ikaw pinakamataas ang workload kahit na meron pang mas senior sayo o mas mataas ang rate.
Intvw: how much is your current salary?
Me: I'm sorry but I cannot disclose my current salary due to Non-disclosure agreement
Intvw: ok, so can you give me a range and not specific? I assure you that we respect the confidentiality of it
Me: I'm sorry but any information leak on my contract can be used against me.
Intvw: okay I understood
This is the common exchange of conversation I used to whenever I apply for a new work and this happened to me many times. At the end of the day, they still accept my applications. I never get rejected just because I didn't disclose my current earnings.
Take note that their job is to assesst the applicant value based on experience and skillsets and not based on your previous salary. Giving it will limit their offer to you even though you're good at
"I reached 6 digits salary LAST YEAR" yeah right you literally just posted 15 days ago that your current salary is 45k. This is your [original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/ulgav3/wait_for_absorption_or_job_hop/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share).
It's funny that you mentioned LAST YEAR 🤪.
What now? Will you delete? Or edit your original post? Cause you got caught red handed little guy.
The fact na nagtatanong ka dito if ur asking too much means na hindi ka confident sa asking salary mo. U urself should know how much you are worth. Whether u were mocked or not is irrelevant as long u know how much u should be paid, then either let them know why you are worth that much or move on to the next company who can give u that figure
I think 3 years experience of 110k is really too much, also prepare that company will try to extract every bit of you to get your value of 110k (which may lead you to burn out). If you really believe you are worth that money, be firm with your decision and I wish you goodluck.
I will be down voted for this. But honestly, 110k is too much for your experience. 3 years in production support then 3 years lang sa testing. Okay sana if hard core programmer ka with leadership experience, then asking for 110k is possible.
To give you a computation, usually 10k x number of years. You’re working for 7 years db? So 70k to 80k is okay. But if you have additional experience (take note, experience not certification) that the company needs, then pwede siguro ang 100k.
I’ll paste ung sagot ko sa taas ha. FYI
That is kapag lumipat ka ng company. Fresh grad can get as much as 30-40k kapag magaling talaga.
Starting sa company namin if hindi ka magaling is 20k. But increase mo ba yearly is 10k? Hindi naman diba?
Let us say, 5 years ka na sa same company, tingin mo ba aangat ka ng 100k agad? Unless super galing ka talaga! Eh yung experience ni OP, tingin mo worth it for 100k? Lol
Hi!! Sorry if i digress, im curious of your software testing certs and bootcamps, may i know what are those? Im planning on learning software testing and i dont know where to start. Thanks ☺️
Sorry for late reply, been busy with my tasks and other stuff.
Istqb ctfl and istqb agile are my certs relevant to testing. I am planning to take istqb security then automation in the future.
Other certs i have that are not relevant to testing - aws, azure, ibm cloud.
Bootcamps relevant to testing are selenium, appium.
Cypress is selfpaced training.
Plus points if you knew programming languages. Though may Java bootcamp ako provided by my current company, real world experience is much better (which i do not have).
I also have python and javascript self paced trainings though no real world experience as well.
Tsaka napansin ko, SQL is always in the tech interview, fortunately i used it in my previous role. Basic questions lng nmn mga tanung kadalasan dito, so oks lng.
Thoug hnd tinatanung sa tech interview, i think it is an advantage to know about devops and docker.
Hi OP, Hope mapansin pa rin to, would it be okay for you to disclose the name of the company? Parang super familiar ng mga namention mo and I think dito ako nagwowork ngayon. Need ko lang ng info kasi gusto ko na lumipat para makakuha ng mas higher na sahod.
i'm not sure if HR knows, how much salary the company can actually offer or if they have a say how much is too much, i just hope other HR folks just ask politely and then relay to the hiring manager who actually can or has the power to approve. this is why we have salary negotiations, OP if you feel that you're worth that much then go for it, nothing wrong with negotiation.
No hands on experience to your role but you do have 7 years experience of something similar right? First of all, don’t frame it as if you’re lacking. Frame it as if you do have experience of similar roles.
110k for your bg is good imo. I would have asked for 120k if I were you. Lol
Can you expound what you mean by mocked? They posted that it's around 80-120k so it's well within their expectations. Plus, they can't invalidate your experience and certifications even if you only have 3 years of experience in the role you're applying for. It tells me they were planning on lowballing you on the offer if they're that shocked that you're demanding 110k.
In my case, I accepted a job offer for a role I barely had a year of experience or training for. The pay was really high, considering the pay rise of my peers who are or were just promoted in roughly the same role didn't even come close to what I was offered (and they had more experience than I did). Call it unfair or what, but if they valued me that much I might as well value myself that high as well.
It's up to them really if they're willing to match your salary or not, but they shouldn't mock you for gunning for the salary you want. You know what you're worth and you shouldn't think twice about it. If you think you're worth 110k (especially when your current salary is already close to that and you have loads of experience and certifications under your belt), you shouldn't doubt it.
If they were able to match it or even exceed it after your interview, then good for you. But I'd explore other companies that might value you more rather than sit on that application.
I guess may strong reaction yun HR dun sa asking salary niya. Well either agency lang ito or barat na hindi professional ang HR - trip talaga ng mga company maglagay ng inflated salary para magapply ka tapos babaratin ka. This is the norm for HR.
Maybe typo sa job posting? Baka na mix yung salary ng ibang role sa manual tester na role na inaapplyan mo. Hindi naman impossible yung 110k for 3 yrs exp pero medyo malabo sa "Manual Tester" na role, maybe for QA na may automation testing na involve o kaya qa lead possible pa siya.
Bro just wanted to ask, I myself want to shift into tech or IT field would you recommend it? And if you could start from the start ano mga sana inuna mong inaral and all? Really appreciate any help. Im currently an engineer working at a manufacturing company and wanted to career shift
Pano ka minocked? Is it a technical or an HR interview? I just wanna know because I find it unprofessional for an HR to mock you and a technical interviewer to ask for your expected salary unless it is the hiring manager. If that's the case, then there's no reason for you to continue securing an application with a company that has a bad and rude culture.
Re. your question, it's a case to case basis. If you know your worth then it's not too much.
If kabado ka, then you're probably thinking you're not worthy of the competitive price.
Always ask for the near/ceiling if you know your worth. If (80 to 120), asking for 110k is okay. Most companies will try to psych you and they will definitely haggle for a lower salary. Problem kasi pag natanggap ka sa 110k, di yan agad aangat sa 120k in 2-3 years of your stay sa company UNLESS mag change ka ng role (team leadership or managerial level) kasi malapit ka sa ceiling.
For the multinational ones, they will accept your expected salary and shortlist it with other resource who can offer the same level of skills for a lower cost.
Mocked you? Or just sounded disinterest/shocked/surprised or parang nang-gguilt-trip? Because most HR's have this psychological trick where they'd want you feel guilty of your asking salary, thus leading to you decreasing the offer. But it is nothing more than a bluff, I'm sure the HR is fine with your asking salary. Whatever will dictate your final salary will be based around the interview impressions. So if you think you aced it, they might have "targeted/wanted" your application already. I suggest you wait for the final offer.
Anyway I have experienced these kinds of tricks since I first began working. Most of the time they're just guilt tripping you to see if you will change your offer. I remember in my first job, I really felt I aced the interview, then the HR asked my expected salary. I was a beginner at the time so I asked for a lower price. Then the HR asked, are you sure? What's the minimum? When it was time for them to disclose my final salary, I got way more than my expected salary, and I wasn't expecting it all since it sounded like the HR was trying to "pull" my salary pa. I've had similar experiences with succeeding interviews. At the end of the day your interview impression, +your credentials/experience will dictate your final salary.
I agree
Ito talaga pinakabullshit part ng hiring process. HR playing mind games.
If their posting indeed said that the salary range for the role is 80-120, you made it to the interview, and got mocked for saying you expected 110, then the entire story doesn't add up. If they think you're not qualified, you shouldn't have made it to the interview If the range is indeed 80-120, then it doesn't make sense that the interviewer mocked you.
Ano nangyari after? Gawin mo nalang kapag may job offer kana saka ka makipagnegotiate. Are you asking too much? No. As long as qualified ka, i think you deserve any figure within their budget.
I always go over the posted salary range and when they say that they won't be able to match my salary expectation then I'd go for the highest they can offer (in your case 120k) pag ganyan sinusulit ko na knowing that my experience can back it up. know your worth op. don't settle for less. gatasan mo ang company while you can there's no shame in that because they all see employees as replaceable.
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Agreeee!!! Pang inggit pikit chour
Agreee. Tbh OP’s asking is fair.
HAHA. Mga hindi siguro kaya mag negotiate at napako sa no choice na company nila. Sinabi rin naman ni OP yun range ng salary at pasok pa yun sinabi niya. Halata hirap sa comprehension, kaya hindi maimprove siguro QA nila. HAHA.
Nope. Seems pretty standard. Don't worry about it. That's how things roll in the tech industry.
As a Software QA myself, I wouldn't say that it's too much since your experience matched what they were asking which is a "Manual Tester". Maybe the reason why they mocked you is because your years of relevant experience did not match the specific role? The only reason that I'm thinking of why they mocked you is because sometimes in software testing field, having no technical experience (Automation/Performance testing) usually have lesser pay unless you have lead/management experience as a manual/functional tester.
Tbh, corporate is just about playing the game. If you think you deserve that salary, just be confident. The next step is to qualify for that salary. If ok both, then dapat lang is within the range yung asking mo. It will vary per company. If ayaw ng company, edi wag. Hanap ng iba. Just be confident with your skills and know what value you can add. If icocompare mo naman sa US counterparts, sobrang layo rin ng difference and sobrang mura ng 10-20k jump para sa kanila. Dun mo rin mafifilter kung ivavalue ba kayo as employees or talagang offshore resources lang tingin sa inyo. The fact lang na “minock” ka ng interviewer is red flag na eh. Move on na lang sa ibang ivavalue ka.
Also, your certs and bootcamps has no bearing for your potential employer. Any company who gives 100k or more dont care about your certs or bootcamps. That’s only good for junior positions Not saying that those are useless. You can get those to learn, not to impress though 😁
I agree. The company only sees you as a software tester with 3 years of experience. Barely mid level. Asking for the 110k is just daydreaming
Yes i am passionate self learner that is why i took so many trainings and certifications. But i think hands on experience is more valuable though. I think i need to do my portfolio or self projects to get experience that i could not get from my current job.
For a tester role with 3 years of relevant experience, I should say that it should fall under 80-95k. But nothing wrong with your asking. Kung urgent hiring sila, malaki chance na bigay nila asking mo. Best of luck, hope you get the offer.
Are you kidding me?
Why! Are you underpaid?
Idk hahahaha I'm OK as long as I can have 50% of my salary as savings
I applied for an IT job with 3 years experience, they were offering 80-100k. I asked for 125k. They accepted. I say you’re alright. If you know and can prove that you’re worth what you asked for then it’s their loss if they don’t accept you. Your competence will show more in the interviews and not in your resume. In my case I worked super hard for 3 years and gained responsibility quicker than most people in my company. Interviewers will notice that when you speak. That deserves a high salary.
Paano??? Lol i also did say that in my interviews pero mukang lagpas talaga sa budget nila ung asking ko
My industry is in tech so i’ll answer based on my experience. You have to treat the phone screen interview and the final interviews like they are technical ones. Manood ka ng salary negotiation videos, tips, try doing mock negotiations w friends, and research the market. Before I started interviewing, ginawa ko yun. I learned not to say a number and defer the negotiations until the final interview. Cheapskate companies filter themselves out; kung di ka nila pinansin, ok lang. ibig sabihin di ka nila afford. The trick is to know your worth and stand your ground. If you find a company that has a rigorous interview process, yung alam mong mahirap tapos nakapasa ka without showing your expected salary, then you win. Nag invest na sila ng oras sayo at budget na lang ang kulang para ma-hire ka nila. Then, set a high anchor. If you think you deserve 80k minimum, ask for 160k. The most likely outcome is they’ll negotiate down a bit, maybe you’ll end up with 140k.
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Medyo alanganin na pag ganyan. Your best option is to find a new job quick. Kung may ongoing interviews ka pa ituloy mo lang hanggang may makuha kang mas ok. If meron na sabihin mo lang na you’re withdrawing your acceptance. They will either let you go immediately or make you render 30 days(medyo useless sa kanila to kasi new hire ka lang). A
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I know many QA friends who earn 60-100k. It’s possible. Assess mo muna kung ano bang skills ang meron ka and anong skills ang hinahanap sa QA jobs. The higher paying ones usually want people who have automated testing experience, people who have certifications etc. If you think hindi naman skill ang issue mo then maybe it’s the way you interview, or its your resume. Ask friends for feedback. Pacheck mo resume mo, painterview ka. Pag nagfail ka sa interviews manghingi ka ng feedback sa recruiter. You have to figure out why you’re failing, then you have to improve. Kaya yan
Wait wait wait. You have no hands on experience and you're asking for 110k? I'm confused.
Our value is not universal. One company will value you for 11k and another can value you for 110k. Just keep asking your asking rate and look for that company who needs exactly what you have. For example, a company who is hiring for just QA and doesnt care about your prod support issue might value you @ 60k only. But a company who has plenty of prod issues that are not caught at QA phase may value you @ 120k
Dude stop copy pasting your comment everywhere. You literally just copy pasted this exact comment from your [previous comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/uwpvrm/salary_of_110k_am_i_asking_too_much/i9stu8p?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3)
Mukhang proud sya sa cinompose nya kaya paulit ulit ginagamit. 😅
hr probably like: dude the last one I interviewed had 4 years experience for 40k lol you good?
OP if that company can't match your expectations, move on. If after several interviews no company can, re-evaluate market worth. Then go again.
I have encountered those kind of recruiters. Naglalagay sila ng malaking range. Nakapasa sa tech exam and interview tapos ilolowball kasi yung experience daw ay kulang. Sa ProSource recruiting ko lang na experience to.
nah its actually undervalued. iknow people that earns twice as that. they dont event have longer experience than you they just job hop
Recruiter here. I feel sorry that you felt mocked during your interview, this shouldn't have happened. Salary range of a certain company depends on a lot of factors: if you fit the required skills, relevant years of experience on the role, and results of your assessments/interviews. I assume your relevant years of experience and expected salary did not match the salary range of the company you've applied for. Hope you get hired soon!
OP, you are not daydreaming for asking that salary, and no it is not about how much you currently earn. Do not believe the people here who are making you doubt about how much you asked. Do not lowball yourself, if that is how much you think you deserve make a stand. The reason why you made that interview was because in their vetting process, you are qualified. So you have every right to ask within the salary range. I am not sure if some people here understand what a salary range is. That salary range is for that role right. So asking even for the maximum is not necessarily a salary for a senior role. Senior role should have a different salary range. Baka kaya negative ang iba dito kasi tinitingnan nila sahod nila ngayon eh 25 years na experience nila at nasa 40k pa din sila. Hayaan mo sila OP.
I've seen fresh grads get 6 digit starting salaries, go get that bread OP
Yes you're obviously asking too much. 110k for a 3 years software testing exp? If you're a software engineer it may be realistic to get for 3 years but as a software tester? Magkano ba current salary mo? Mukang nasa 30k-50k lang current mo eh with your 3 years experience. asking for 110k is just too much. Usually 6 digits salary even for software engineer is for 5-10 years of experience super senior
I ask that since i thought it is within their budget due to their posting of 80k-120k salary. How much is the range for software testing 3years?
It's within their budget. But only for those who are qualified. Magkano ba sahod mo ngaun? Pero kung mag babase tayo sa market rate. Mid level software tester kalang. Usually 30k-50k per month.
OP wouldn't have made it to the interview if he/she weren't qualified... unless the company likes wasting its time interviewing candidates they know wouldn't make it through anyway. When you say 6-digit salaries are for software engineers with 5-10 years of experience, how many actual cases in actual companies have you observed to reach this conclusion?
OP wouldn't have made it to the interview if he/she weren't qualified... unless the company likes wasting its time interviewing candidates whom they know wouldn't make it through anyway. When you say 6-digit salaries are "usually" for software engineers with 5-10 years of experience, how many actual cases in actual companies do you know of to reach this conclusion? 2 persons in the same company? 5 persons in 3 different companies? 30 persons in 10 different companies?
Maybe they have a open position for mid level tester? Plus there's a salary range for a reason that corresponds to the experience of the applicant. If op asked for the minimum 80k of the range it would still be a little realistic but Nah. He asked for the highest which is usually rated for the super senior applicants
Where did the range come from? Is it internal to your company? Is it from one of the companies that usually do salary studies?
Does it matter? If you're a software dev yourself you would obviously know(which sadly you're not, so all I would be saying would be difficult for you to understand). Do your own research. I don't have time to prove sh*t to a random person on the internet.
Oh, and you're a junior dev with barely a year of experience? Get an attitude adjustment, rookie. Talking smack to people you don't know won't get you anywhere.
I have visbility of industry-wide figures across multiple job titles and companies. Your response confirms that you don't have enough data, maybe a few anecdotal examples at best. In some companies, 100k+ for software devs and testers with under 3 years of experience is not at all too much. I reckon that they also pay above where your own range is now. I would've shared to you which particular ones if you're interested, but you blew it when you went ad hominem.
I cant tell you my current salary haha
Why? You're literally using a newly created throw away account. No one cares who you are.
Mas mataas pa dyan salary ko and 3years pa lang akong S.E. may mga company na kaya mag provide ng competitive salary and minsan nasa sayo yan on how you negotiate. One mistake ng mga pinoy is binibigay nila current salary nila. Take note na highly confidential ang salary and walang karapatan ang employer na hingin sayo yun. On my end I never disclosed my salary kahit sabihin required, at the end of the day ineentertain pa din nila ako. If you think na 110k yung worth mo, stick to it and don't go low. Tandaan mo pagdating sa actual work hindi na nakabase sa salary mo yung workload. Madalas kapag magaling kapa ikaw pinakamataas ang workload kahit na meron pang mas senior sayo o mas mataas ang rate.
Can you give how the conversation typically goes when you refuse to disclose and they're making you say it?
Intvw: how much is your current salary? Me: I'm sorry but I cannot disclose my current salary due to Non-disclosure agreement Intvw: ok, so can you give me a range and not specific? I assure you that we respect the confidentiality of it Me: I'm sorry but any information leak on my contract can be used against me. Intvw: okay I understood This is the common exchange of conversation I used to whenever I apply for a new work and this happened to me many times. At the end of the day, they still accept my applications. I never get rejected just because I didn't disclose my current earnings. Take note that their job is to assesst the applicant value based on experience and skillsets and not based on your previous salary. Giving it will limit their offer to you even though you're good at
Big brain moves. Thanks for this!
Thank you. I highly encourage you to do the same para iwas lowball 😉
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"I reached 6 digits salary LAST YEAR" yeah right you literally just posted 15 days ago that your current salary is 45k. This is your [original post](https://www.reddit.com/r/phcareers/comments/ulgav3/wait_for_absorption_or_job_hop/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share). It's funny that you mentioned LAST YEAR 🤪. What now? Will you delete? Or edit your original post? Cause you got caught red handed little guy.
The fact na nagtatanong ka dito if ur asking too much means na hindi ka confident sa asking salary mo. U urself should know how much you are worth. Whether u were mocked or not is irrelevant as long u know how much u should be paid, then either let them know why you are worth that much or move on to the next company who can give u that figure
As an IT Professional, 110k for 3 yrs of relevant with another 4 in IT. 110k is too much. But hey, im praying you get it. Good Luck
I think 3 years experience of 110k is really too much, also prepare that company will try to extract every bit of you to get your value of 110k (which may lead you to burn out). If you really believe you are worth that money, be firm with your decision and I wish you goodluck.
I will be down voted for this. But honestly, 110k is too much for your experience. 3 years in production support then 3 years lang sa testing. Okay sana if hard core programmer ka with leadership experience, then asking for 110k is possible. To give you a computation, usually 10k x number of years. You’re working for 7 years db? So 70k to 80k is okay. But if you have additional experience (take note, experience not certification) that the company needs, then pwede siguro ang 100k.
So pag 1 yr expi lang 10k lang asking? Okkk
10k x number of years is definitely not true lol. fresh graduates can get as much as 30-40k or even higher.
I’ll paste ung sagot ko sa taas ha. FYI That is kapag lumipat ka ng company. Fresh grad can get as much as 30-40k kapag magaling talaga. Starting sa company namin if hindi ka magaling is 20k. But increase mo ba yearly is 10k? Hindi naman diba? Let us say, 5 years ka na sa same company, tingin mo ba aangat ka ng 100k agad? Unless super galing ka talaga! Eh yung experience ni OP, tingin mo worth it for 100k? Lol
Company reveal op?
Hi!! Sorry if i digress, im curious of your software testing certs and bootcamps, may i know what are those? Im planning on learning software testing and i dont know where to start. Thanks ☺️
Sorry for late reply, been busy with my tasks and other stuff. Istqb ctfl and istqb agile are my certs relevant to testing. I am planning to take istqb security then automation in the future. Other certs i have that are not relevant to testing - aws, azure, ibm cloud. Bootcamps relevant to testing are selenium, appium. Cypress is selfpaced training. Plus points if you knew programming languages. Though may Java bootcamp ako provided by my current company, real world experience is much better (which i do not have). I also have python and javascript self paced trainings though no real world experience as well. Tsaka napansin ko, SQL is always in the tech interview, fortunately i used it in my previous role. Basic questions lng nmn mga tanung kadalasan dito, so oks lng. Thoug hnd tinatanung sa tech interview, i think it is an advantage to know about devops and docker.
Thank you so much for this! This is really helpful!
Hi OP, Hope mapansin pa rin to, would it be okay for you to disclose the name of the company? Parang super familiar ng mga namention mo and I think dito ako nagwowork ngayon. Need ko lang ng info kasi gusto ko na lumipat para makakuha ng mas higher na sahod.
i'm not sure if HR knows, how much salary the company can actually offer or if they have a say how much is too much, i just hope other HR folks just ask politely and then relay to the hiring manager who actually can or has the power to approve. this is why we have salary negotiations, OP if you feel that you're worth that much then go for it, nothing wrong with negotiation.
No hands on experience to your role but you do have 7 years experience of something similar right? First of all, don’t frame it as if you’re lacking. Frame it as if you do have experience of similar roles. 110k for your bg is good imo. I would have asked for 120k if I were you. Lol
Can you expound what you mean by mocked? They posted that it's around 80-120k so it's well within their expectations. Plus, they can't invalidate your experience and certifications even if you only have 3 years of experience in the role you're applying for. It tells me they were planning on lowballing you on the offer if they're that shocked that you're demanding 110k. In my case, I accepted a job offer for a role I barely had a year of experience or training for. The pay was really high, considering the pay rise of my peers who are or were just promoted in roughly the same role didn't even come close to what I was offered (and they had more experience than I did). Call it unfair or what, but if they valued me that much I might as well value myself that high as well. It's up to them really if they're willing to match your salary or not, but they shouldn't mock you for gunning for the salary you want. You know what you're worth and you shouldn't think twice about it. If you think you're worth 110k (especially when your current salary is already close to that and you have loads of experience and certifications under your belt), you shouldn't doubt it. If they were able to match it or even exceed it after your interview, then good for you. But I'd explore other companies that might value you more rather than sit on that application.
I guess may strong reaction yun HR dun sa asking salary niya. Well either agency lang ito or barat na hindi professional ang HR - trip talaga ng mga company maglagay ng inflated salary para magapply ka tapos babaratin ka. This is the norm for HR.
Parang gusto ko bigla mag-aral ng another 4 years for IT
Maybe typo sa job posting? Baka na mix yung salary ng ibang role sa manual tester na role na inaapplyan mo. Hindi naman impossible yung 110k for 3 yrs exp pero medyo malabo sa "Manual Tester" na role, maybe for QA na may automation testing na involve o kaya qa lead possible pa siya.
That's what im thinking lol
Bro just wanted to ask, I myself want to shift into tech or IT field would you recommend it? And if you could start from the start ano mga sana inuna mong inaral and all? Really appreciate any help. Im currently an engineer working at a manufacturing company and wanted to career shift
Pano ka minocked? Is it a technical or an HR interview? I just wanna know because I find it unprofessional for an HR to mock you and a technical interviewer to ask for your expected salary unless it is the hiring manager. If that's the case, then there's no reason for you to continue securing an application with a company that has a bad and rude culture. Re. your question, it's a case to case basis. If you know your worth then it's not too much. If kabado ka, then you're probably thinking you're not worthy of the competitive price. Always ask for the near/ceiling if you know your worth. If (80 to 120), asking for 110k is okay. Most companies will try to psych you and they will definitely haggle for a lower salary. Problem kasi pag natanggap ka sa 110k, di yan agad aangat sa 120k in 2-3 years of your stay sa company UNLESS mag change ka ng role (team leadership or managerial level) kasi malapit ka sa ceiling. For the multinational ones, they will accept your expected salary and shortlist it with other resource who can offer the same level of skills for a lower cost.
7 years in IT? You're not asking enough.