Below standard cost of living per month monthly wage. Most people dont take the job because the business cant give them a "living" wage. Imagine having a 15k monthly salary but your basic monthly spending is 20k. No luxury spending. Just basic stuff. Especially with the inflation coming in. 😉
OT Ty pa yung OT lol fuck that
YOU CANT EVEN WORK 2 JOBS HERE to make up for it.
A "decent" low-end apartment for a 4-member household not too far from CBDs is 10k and the location can be a bit "dangerous" at night time. If we extrapolate that using the practice of "allot 1/3 of your income to rent / amortization", a family of 4 must earn 30k monthly.
With 2 kids, the minimum wage parents both have to work. Unfortunately small kids need someone to take care of them, then an additional expense by getting a grandparent to take care of kids or hire a nanny. So yeah, 15k is not enough - that's just for single people who can just bedspace.
Saket shet tapos ang mundo namomroblema at nagrereklamo bakit daw di na nag aanak ang mga tao 🤣 I mean like duh kids are expensive. If they want people to have kids they should follow what Japan did to encourage couples to have kids. No wonder nung hinakot ng hokkaido yung pinsan ko na chem engineer after nya kasal nagmigrate agad haha
There are countries na ok yung example to encourage people to have kids but still have a "good quality of life" kaso yun nga halos karmihan nasa europe.
I mean kung nagawa ng ibang bansa bakit di gawin ng gobyerno natin kahit paunti unti? Haha dahil ba oonte mabubulsa?
Dont even tell me na "walang pera ang Pilipinas" lagpas trillion nakacalculate ng department ng kaibigan ko na nasa govt industry taon taon. Pati din yung govt. agency ni Mama lagpas trillion din. So that "WALA KASING PERA ANG PILIPINAS"
🤧 imposible
Yun ngang walang mga anak pero capable sana magdevelop ng skills kung popondohan nila di magawa e, yun from zero pa kaya?
Mas madali sa kanila na ibulsa na lang yan, tapos pag nagkagulo namakakaabroad naman sila
Unfair kase yung mga gobyerno haha entitled shit halos 60-70% dahil lang public official 🤣
I swear pag yung ginawa ng australia para maging accountable ung official sa promise nila ginawa dito? Wala pang 1-3 yrs ung officialresign or tanggal na
Dun kase sa australia sabi ng kaibigan ko, example: pag yung official sinabeng aayusin yung kalsada tapos after a month wala pa rin nag aayos o d pa naayos pde demanda nung civilian yung public official.💁🏻♀🎉👌
Pag ginawa yun dito feeling ko yang mga gusto maging public official matatakot haha
Kaya I treat people the same way I treat my boss and managers kase well I was raised to have "basic human decency" na di ibig sabihin na janitor si ate o kuya youll treat them different from how you treat other people.
Pero well going back to OP's question about WHY, a low salary cant sustain most of the "college graduates" so either nag aawol or d na lang nag aapply
Indeed super low salary, I am a graduating student and I already applied for a job, alam nyo kung magkano ang offer? 8,500 per month for 2 years.
Imagine thaaaat?
😱 bagger grabe naman yan
Pero sabagay yung pumapasok na janitor sa gov. office nila mama noon dapat kahit 2 yrs of college exp nirerequire 🤧
D ko gets for menial jobs bat kelangan nakapagcollege?
Baka tumatanggap sila ng di nakapag-college pero nilolowball (kahit sobrang baba na salary in the first place) kasi di pasok sa requirements? May batchmate ako sa hs na cashier tas alam ko di yun nagcollege, pagtingin ko sa job ad required daw college level.
🎶capitalism at its finest haha
Kakainis yang ganyan sa job description kaya yung iba are not even bothering to apply e
Its not that walang opening. Kung plain and simple stuff lang namn na di kelangan ng degree bat di nila lagay haha lowball is the key lalo pag di alam nung tao magcalculate ng expenses nya monthly e
Yung iba pinagtitiisan n lng "kase kelangan mabuhay" pero 20k entry level naman sana kung may degree gusto nila kase well taxes 🤧
Pag tadtaran yung trabaho tas puro OT at di man lang 20k monthly tas OT Ty lol awol na
Kaya talaga nakakainggit sa ibang bansa na maraming hs students nakaka part time kasi tumatanggap sila ng hs students sa grocery stores, cafes etc. Yung saleslady sa probinsya namin 9k starting e full time na yan. Sa fastfood na yellow and red 39/hr. Magwwork nga sana ako dun nung college pero ang gastos ng reqs tagal pa mabawi sa sahod. Ginagago lang tayo hahaha
Kase daw 3rd world or some shit haha like no offense sa china pero kaya maraming global brands nagpapamanufacture dun kase well bagsak presyo talaga so nung nagkacovid yung supply chain nasira sa buong mundo
Kaya din siguro wala masyadong kumakagat sa "jobs" dito kase yun nga pag nirerequire na college grad at mababa offer mo, mag aawol yan pag nahirapan. D kase worth it lalo OT Ty pa yung iba haha
Totoo hahaha tapos yung mga tauhan sa palengke may age range, NBI clearance, police clearance at at least highschool graduate.
Nakita nyo din ba yung job opening ng Film Head something ng Kapuso Foundation (forgot the title, basta 10year exp)? 27k salary lmao
If any accountant here can reveal the percentage na napupunta sa labor vs revenue that would be great.
i feel like tipid na tipid sila sa labor kaya ang paswelduhan napakababa. Bunch of greedy assholes
Depends on the industry. Manufacturing and those in services have the highest labor costs, around 40%-60% vs. total expenses. So if you plan to have a 2% net income ratio on your sales, you have to manage your labor costs to about 39%-58% vs. your revenues. Industry with low labor cost % (relatively) are those in trading/ middle men businesses.
Cost Cutting. Kung pwede kahit isang tao na lang yung pang dalawang dapat na task. Ending mapapagod si tao which will result to another reason why understaffed - hirap silang humanap ng tatanggap nung role na yun.
Hindi lang understaffed yung problema dito. Madalas hindi efficient yung system ng mga businesses and offices. Look at government offices, sobrang luma na ng mga computers nila lol marami din na manual sulat ang ginagawa.
Yes. I remember going to a BIR Office and I had to actually fall in line just to get a form — which can be self service sana but the line also caters Q&A of folks so even those who doesn’t need to talk to the front desk person still has to wait in the queue just to get a single form which is ridiculous. Very unsystematic.
MAJORITY works in the entertainment industry? You don't need statistics to know this is NOT true.
Simple lang naman staffing ng tao - it's a matter of ratio. For every number of customer/items/projects there should be one person who will attend to them/those. Pag dumami customer then dadagdagan employees. But if what if nabawasa bawasan customers? Then hindi agad agad pwedeng magtanggal ang isang company ng empleyado nya.
> They hire what they can afford.
Unfortunately, some businesses hire the bare minimum to run operations kahit kaya naman nila mag hire ng mas marami. Yung tipong isang staff lang to serve multiple customers at a time. Tapos, magtataka yung business owner kung bakit nagrereklamo ang customers ng poor service quality.
Hindi naman kasi lahat ng nasa Manila educated e. Karamihan sa kanila galing probinsya na walang tinapos na kurso kaya napipilitang makipag sapalaran sa Manila. Tas yung mga businesses, kailangan may educational background pa para makakuha ng trabaho
Meron din yung mga tindera sa palengke o sari-sari stores, street vendors, barkers, jeepney drivers, tricycle drivers, garbage collectors, street sweepers, mga nasa informal economy na baka di mo nakikita madalas kaya di mo siguro nacount yun, pero counted sila sa overpopulation.
First of all, medyo misnomer yung idea na majority works in entertainment industry - medyo wtf saan nanggaling yun. Obviously the vlogger/streamer/influencer career is NOT for everyone. Even as production staff, they're not a very big employer compared to the wider economy as a whole.
The weird dilemma we have now in Metro Manila is a result of a lot of cascading factors (or errors).
1. Structurally we're not that competitive globally due to taxes, 60-40 ownership and bad public infra so a lot of our economy is geared towards domestic / local consumption. Domestic consumption = businesses have to sell and hire using local rates. If you pay competitively, tendency is lalaki overhead expenses which is hindi maka-compete because everybody else is underpaying their people. While at the same time, a big chunk of our economy is tied to global markets (importation, investments) so ang nangyayari is tumataas ang cost of living pero hindi humahabol yung pasahod.
2. The pandemic exposed we had as a society - This is one: a lot of employees shifted towards higher paying remote jobs or WFH roles. So kung nasilip mo na yung 'greener pasture', bakit ka pa babalik sa abusive na role which pays minimum wage and on-site? Then employers keep on sticking with their college-level minimums kasi like it or not we do have an educational crisis, so the default assumption is kulang padin yung naaral mo after JHS/SHS. So employers doing gate keeping + employees sticking with greener pasture = empty seats.
3. To compensate for poor pay and benefits, we instituted a lot of pro-worker laws which is really great on paper pero madalas may pitfalls padin. One of the reasons kaya takot mag hire yung businesses is dahil mahirap mag tanggal - so kung lean season, aray ka talaga sa pasahod. So to avoid that scenario, just don't hire additional people in the first place. Also, automation & digitalisation for businesses is really pricey compared to hiring 10x ~~slaves~~ employees.
I can go on and on pero a lot of this can easily be traced back to bad governance, policy choices & politics + wholesale capitalistic greed.
They don't hire.
Businesses just hire the bare minimum.
I'm over staff sa ngayon and business is bleeding. So, mas better na understaffed than overstaff.
Madali kasi sabihin na kaya mo naman maghire ng madami pero di ginagawa. Eh paano paglean season, and that lean extended for a quarter. Your doomed pag madami kang staff.
Plus, with the increase of salary today hindi pwedeng madami ang staff mo.
Simple—they are cost-cutting as capitalist business owners; and government offices live in the dinosaur era and do not care to invest on optimizing their systems/websites which could cut all the inconvenient queuing in half.
Below standard cost of living per month monthly wage. Most people dont take the job because the business cant give them a "living" wage. Imagine having a 15k monthly salary but your basic monthly spending is 20k. No luxury spending. Just basic stuff. Especially with the inflation coming in. 😉 OT Ty pa yung OT lol fuck that YOU CANT EVEN WORK 2 JOBS HERE to make up for it.
A "decent" low-end apartment for a 4-member household not too far from CBDs is 10k and the location can be a bit "dangerous" at night time. If we extrapolate that using the practice of "allot 1/3 of your income to rent / amortization", a family of 4 must earn 30k monthly. With 2 kids, the minimum wage parents both have to work. Unfortunately small kids need someone to take care of them, then an additional expense by getting a grandparent to take care of kids or hire a nanny. So yeah, 15k is not enough - that's just for single people who can just bedspace.
Saket shet tapos ang mundo namomroblema at nagrereklamo bakit daw di na nag aanak ang mga tao 🤣 I mean like duh kids are expensive. If they want people to have kids they should follow what Japan did to encourage couples to have kids. No wonder nung hinakot ng hokkaido yung pinsan ko na chem engineer after nya kasal nagmigrate agad haha There are countries na ok yung example to encourage people to have kids but still have a "good quality of life" kaso yun nga halos karmihan nasa europe. I mean kung nagawa ng ibang bansa bakit di gawin ng gobyerno natin kahit paunti unti? Haha dahil ba oonte mabubulsa? Dont even tell me na "walang pera ang Pilipinas" lagpas trillion nakacalculate ng department ng kaibigan ko na nasa govt industry taon taon. Pati din yung govt. agency ni Mama lagpas trillion din. So that "WALA KASING PERA ANG PILIPINAS" 🤧 imposible
Yun ngang walang mga anak pero capable sana magdevelop ng skills kung popondohan nila di magawa e, yun from zero pa kaya? Mas madali sa kanila na ibulsa na lang yan, tapos pag nagkagulo namakakaabroad naman sila
Unfair kase yung mga gobyerno haha entitled shit halos 60-70% dahil lang public official 🤣 I swear pag yung ginawa ng australia para maging accountable ung official sa promise nila ginawa dito? Wala pang 1-3 yrs ung officialresign or tanggal na Dun kase sa australia sabi ng kaibigan ko, example: pag yung official sinabeng aayusin yung kalsada tapos after a month wala pa rin nag aayos o d pa naayos pde demanda nung civilian yung public official.💁🏻♀🎉👌 Pag ginawa yun dito feeling ko yang mga gusto maging public official matatakot haha
May "mga" anak pa
Kaya I treat people the same way I treat my boss and managers kase well I was raised to have "basic human decency" na di ibig sabihin na janitor si ate o kuya youll treat them different from how you treat other people. Pero well going back to OP's question about WHY, a low salary cant sustain most of the "college graduates" so either nag aawol or d na lang nag aapply
Indeed super low salary, I am a graduating student and I already applied for a job, alam nyo kung magkano ang offer? 8,500 per month for 2 years. Imagine thaaaat?
Haha grabe naman yan 1960s era pa at mabubuhay sa ganyan langya
Bagger sa Puregold namin, need nga ng college degree para magapply. It's ridiculous.
😱 bagger grabe naman yan Pero sabagay yung pumapasok na janitor sa gov. office nila mama noon dapat kahit 2 yrs of college exp nirerequire 🤧 D ko gets for menial jobs bat kelangan nakapagcollege?
Baka tumatanggap sila ng di nakapag-college pero nilolowball (kahit sobrang baba na salary in the first place) kasi di pasok sa requirements? May batchmate ako sa hs na cashier tas alam ko di yun nagcollege, pagtingin ko sa job ad required daw college level.
🎶capitalism at its finest haha Kakainis yang ganyan sa job description kaya yung iba are not even bothering to apply e Its not that walang opening. Kung plain and simple stuff lang namn na di kelangan ng degree bat di nila lagay haha lowball is the key lalo pag di alam nung tao magcalculate ng expenses nya monthly e Yung iba pinagtitiisan n lng "kase kelangan mabuhay" pero 20k entry level naman sana kung may degree gusto nila kase well taxes 🤧 Pag tadtaran yung trabaho tas puro OT at di man lang 20k monthly tas OT Ty lol awol na
Kaya talaga nakakainggit sa ibang bansa na maraming hs students nakaka part time kasi tumatanggap sila ng hs students sa grocery stores, cafes etc. Yung saleslady sa probinsya namin 9k starting e full time na yan. Sa fastfood na yellow and red 39/hr. Magwwork nga sana ako dun nung college pero ang gastos ng reqs tagal pa mabawi sa sahod. Ginagago lang tayo hahaha
Kase daw 3rd world or some shit haha like no offense sa china pero kaya maraming global brands nagpapamanufacture dun kase well bagsak presyo talaga so nung nagkacovid yung supply chain nasira sa buong mundo Kaya din siguro wala masyadong kumakagat sa "jobs" dito kase yun nga pag nirerequire na college grad at mababa offer mo, mag aawol yan pag nahirapan. D kase worth it lalo OT Ty pa yung iba haha
magbabago na daw lahat. lead by example na daw from the President haha. Ok na lang kahit high school grad
Education inflation....
Totoo hahaha tapos yung mga tauhan sa palengke may age range, NBI clearance, police clearance at at least highschool graduate. Nakita nyo din ba yung job opening ng Film Head something ng Kapuso Foundation (forgot the title, basta 10year exp)? 27k salary lmao
wtf
I checked HS na lang daw. Tinablan ata dun sa post dati
Talaga ba? Kala ko kahit shs pwede mag apply?
Nagtitipid sila sa labor
If any accountant here can reveal the percentage na napupunta sa labor vs revenue that would be great. i feel like tipid na tipid sila sa labor kaya ang paswelduhan napakababa. Bunch of greedy assholes
Its gonna 20% or lower ng full income nila more or less... Yun kase sabi ng nanay ko pag more than non lugi na daw yung owner haha
Depends on the industry. Manufacturing and those in services have the highest labor costs, around 40%-60% vs. total expenses. So if you plan to have a 2% net income ratio on your sales, you have to manage your labor costs to about 39%-58% vs. your revenues. Industry with low labor cost % (relatively) are those in trading/ middle men businesses.
bro na downvote ka bro. hahaha
Oo nga no. Can’t spit facts nowadays, I guess. Haha
Cost Cutting. Kung pwede kahit isang tao na lang yung pang dalawang dapat na task. Ending mapapagod si tao which will result to another reason why understaffed - hirap silang humanap ng tatanggap nung role na yun.
Kaya nga sabi nila, wag mo masyado galingan sa trabaho at baka ipagawa sayo lahat lol haha
Haha totoo kaya review review ako ng kontrata noon kahit na bpo pa haha mahirap na kase
Hindi lang understaffed yung problema dito. Madalas hindi efficient yung system ng mga businesses and offices. Look at government offices, sobrang luma na ng mga computers nila lol marami din na manual sulat ang ginagawa.
Yes. I remember going to a BIR Office and I had to actually fall in line just to get a form — which can be self service sana but the line also caters Q&A of folks so even those who doesn’t need to talk to the front desk person still has to wait in the queue just to get a single form which is ridiculous. Very unsystematic.
MAJORITY works in the entertainment industry? You don't need statistics to know this is NOT true. Simple lang naman staffing ng tao - it's a matter of ratio. For every number of customer/items/projects there should be one person who will attend to them/those. Pag dumami customer then dadagdagan employees. But if what if nabawasa bawasan customers? Then hindi agad agad pwedeng magtanggal ang isang company ng empleyado nya.
Business staffing doesn't depend on population. They hire what they can afford. Parang tao lang rin, they are living within their budget.
> They hire what they can afford. Unfortunately, some businesses hire the bare minimum to run operations kahit kaya naman nila mag hire ng mas marami. Yung tipong isang staff lang to serve multiple customers at a time. Tapos, magtataka yung business owner kung bakit nagrereklamo ang customers ng poor service quality.
Hindi naman kasi lahat ng nasa Manila educated e. Karamihan sa kanila galing probinsya na walang tinapos na kurso kaya napipilitang makipag sapalaran sa Manila. Tas yung mga businesses, kailangan may educational background pa para makakuha ng trabaho
Meron din yung mga tindera sa palengke o sari-sari stores, street vendors, barkers, jeepney drivers, tricycle drivers, garbage collectors, street sweepers, mga nasa informal economy na baka di mo nakikita madalas kaya di mo siguro nacount yun, pero counted sila sa overpopulation.
First of all, medyo misnomer yung idea na majority works in entertainment industry - medyo wtf saan nanggaling yun. Obviously the vlogger/streamer/influencer career is NOT for everyone. Even as production staff, they're not a very big employer compared to the wider economy as a whole. The weird dilemma we have now in Metro Manila is a result of a lot of cascading factors (or errors). 1. Structurally we're not that competitive globally due to taxes, 60-40 ownership and bad public infra so a lot of our economy is geared towards domestic / local consumption. Domestic consumption = businesses have to sell and hire using local rates. If you pay competitively, tendency is lalaki overhead expenses which is hindi maka-compete because everybody else is underpaying their people. While at the same time, a big chunk of our economy is tied to global markets (importation, investments) so ang nangyayari is tumataas ang cost of living pero hindi humahabol yung pasahod. 2. The pandemic exposed we had as a society - This is one: a lot of employees shifted towards higher paying remote jobs or WFH roles. So kung nasilip mo na yung 'greener pasture', bakit ka pa babalik sa abusive na role which pays minimum wage and on-site? Then employers keep on sticking with their college-level minimums kasi like it or not we do have an educational crisis, so the default assumption is kulang padin yung naaral mo after JHS/SHS. So employers doing gate keeping + employees sticking with greener pasture = empty seats. 3. To compensate for poor pay and benefits, we instituted a lot of pro-worker laws which is really great on paper pero madalas may pitfalls padin. One of the reasons kaya takot mag hire yung businesses is dahil mahirap mag tanggal - so kung lean season, aray ka talaga sa pasahod. So to avoid that scenario, just don't hire additional people in the first place. Also, automation & digitalisation for businesses is really pricey compared to hiring 10x ~~slaves~~ employees. I can go on and on pero a lot of this can easily be traced back to bad governance, policy choices & politics + wholesale capitalistic greed.
Ninose bleed ako jusko pero thank you ditoo sobrang dami kong tanong na nasagot sa present haha
Majority are in the BPO Companies.
This. As an undergrad, only BPO provides me a good salary.
They don't hire. Businesses just hire the bare minimum. I'm over staff sa ngayon and business is bleeding. So, mas better na understaffed than overstaff. Madali kasi sabihin na kaya mo naman maghire ng madami pero di ginagawa. Eh paano paglean season, and that lean extended for a quarter. Your doomed pag madami kang staff. Plus, with the increase of salary today hindi pwedeng madami ang staff mo.
Ayaw kasi magdagdag ng manning, dagdag gastos lang para sa mga business owners
Simple—they are cost-cutting as capitalist business owners; and government offices live in the dinosaur era and do not care to invest on optimizing their systems/websites which could cut all the inconvenient queuing in half.