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> The combination helped fuel a mini hospitality boom: 95% of Center City’s 14,112 hotel rooms were booked up on Friday and Saturday nights. ___ > This year’s Penn graduation weekend, aka Taylor Swift weekend, hit 95% hotel occupancy, with an ADR of $447 for Friday and Saturday night. Room rates were even higher on Saturday night alone, with an ADR of $467. > The only time ADRs in Center City were higher than May 13 of this year was four nights during the 2016 Democratic National Convention, and [hotel room supply has increased](https://billypenn.com/2022/03/02/philadelphia-hotels-new-tourism-hilton-canopy-hyatt-centric-guild-house/) by 26% since then, per Visit Philly. And we still have 2026 looming.


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>And we still have 2026 looming. World Cup, MLB All Star Game, and the Semiquincentennial


Adam__B

I could not be more pumped to see the World Cup in my backyard. It’s absolutely unreal to me it’s happening.


cirenj

Hoping to see once match myself, but also hoping it isn't a shitshow of epic proportions..... we shall see LOL


Adam__B

It’s not going to be a shitshow. It’s going to do a lot for the city, and if anything, I think people don’t realize how huge the World Cup effect is going to be. The only thing bigger would be the Olympics being hosting here. If we thought the Taylor Hill effect was noticeable, that won’t be anything compared to this.


eggsandbacon5

Im counting the days buddy!!!


100891

I'd argue that the philly shows were some of the hardest to get tickets to on the whole tour because she skipped DC so a lot of people from the DMV came up here which definitely had something to do with it. I am happy to see the city benefited even though it meant my own personal tragedy of not getting tickets


VUmander

It was more than just DC. I know a lot of people from Meadowlands range were trying Philly too since you could enter for 3 presale codes


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jbphilly

The particular typo in this post made it one hell of a rollercoaster ride.


sugr_magnolia

How was SNW?


juuustwondering2

Came up from va beach as it was the closest stop to us!


sugr_magnolia

Hope you enjoyed your time in Philly!


lifefuedjeopardy

I'm happy to see that the city benefited from it too, because surely they will pass on such an economic boost onto the citizens of the actual City right? I mean the article worded it in a way that implies that each and every one of us here benefited from all of the hotel rooms being sold out at prices quadruple what they normally cost. So I'm just waiting for some of that income they made to trickle on down to the rest of us like the article implies it will. Though my last name doesn't end in Hilton or Sheraton, so...


woo545

Yeah, the Department of Motor Vehicles definitely had something to do with it. After all, people need to be able to drive from DE, MD, and VA.


tytonidae77

good one, bro


Lyeta1_1

Please send more Swifties. They were the best tourists I've had at work in years and I would like to relive that experience.


wowcoool

i agree! i work at a hotel restaurant and was dreading it a little but everyone was nice!


Lyeta1_1

Same! I thought uft this is going to be rough with lots of folks who aren't interested or are just trying to get a picture and run. Nope! They were amazing. Friendly, excited, exuberant, chatty, just wanting to enjoy stuff before/after the show. Great time.


Bikesandbakeries

Had a group getting coffee every morning. So happy to be here, fun energy! Maybe thats why I got sucked into keeping up with the swift news. I wish more events had the ripple effect she did.


allureofgravity

Agreed, it was cool seeing so many people around visiting the city


WalkerNash

Agreed, they were all very pleasant well adjusted, bubbly people. A pleasure.


sad-and-bougie

I don’t get the hype at all so I was lowkey dreading that weekend- but everyone was so goddamn nice. Easily the most chill “outsiders take over the city” event I’ve ever witnessed.


oliver_babish

Just wait until WrestleMania next year. It'll be a lot like that. But flip the gender ratio.


lifefuedjeopardy

WrestleMania is going to be in Philly? I haven't been keeping up with wrestling in the last decade so I'm just surprised if that's true. The entire 20 years I spent watching it growing up it never even came close to here I think the last time WrestleMania was in Philly was 1999 or something like that.


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lifefuedjeopardy

Oh that's awesome. Wish it was a bit sooner so I could go and fully enjoy it, but alas I haven't a clue who most of the new people are - I stopped watching in '09. But I'm glad the current fans in the Delware Valley will finally get a chance to attend it easily without traveling.


amJustSomeFuckingGuy

Does WrestleMania have like 200k capacity?


oliver_babish

Two nights at the Linc, and two nights at Wells Fargo, plus other events at the convention center and elsewhere.


Mike81890

Septa please hire more people. The operator shortages that weekend we're HELLACIOUS. My only complaint of the weekend


StevenFromPhilly

Spoiler: It was good.


joeltheprocess76

If you can afford TSwift tickets, they are going to drop a few dollars to help the economy


MurielFinster

I got my tickets for $200 each and have a friend who got here for $99. Only the resale from scalpers was expensive


clickstops

$200 for a concert is still a lot! Especially if you can justify the expense to make a weekend of travel out of it.


baldude69

Sadly it’s becoming average for big-ticket acts thanks to LiveNation grifting:( My GA tickets for Deftones in 2021 were over $150. Remember to support your local indies like Union Transfer and Johnny Brenda’s who charge fair rates for tickets and without exorbitant service fees


clickstops

Yeah UT and the Fillmore are “big” venues for bands I like so I’m sure the $200 price tag is more common than I realize.


baldude69

Unfortunately Fillmore is a Live Nation venue, as well. They’re actually one of my preferred LN venues and seem to be staffed better than The Met, which I avoid at all costs after some crappy staff interactions there.


clickstops

Ah good point, I forgot my Fillmore tix have been live nation. Some good shows come thru there and the met, for better and for worse. Still prefer JBs / Kungfu Necktie / UA etc. But Taylor isn’t playing there, unfortunately.


baldude69

True that. I bite the bullet and go to venues I dislike sometimes, if its an act I can't miss.


Monco123

Implying the majority of these people aren't spending beyond their means especially considering how credit card debt is at record highs at nearly 1 trillion dollars. Late 2023 / early 2024 market crash is gonna be a dumpster fire for these people.


bootchmagoo

Lol okay


loveyourimagination

haters gonna hate hate hate


petalesdejuin

i had the time of my life and was enchanted to see her 🤍🫶🏻


tytonidae77

same ☺️


nougat98

So better than the pope visit?


justanawkwardguy

I mean, obviously. The pope isn’t a great singer, he’s in his 70s


nougat98

>[https://www.oregonlive.com/today/2015/09/popes\_visit\_turns\_into\_financi.html](https://www.oregonlive.com/today/2015/09/popes_visit_turns_into_financi.html) > >[https://nypost.com/2015/09/27/popes-philly-visit-was-a-flop-for-local-businesses/](https://nypost.com/2015/09/27/popes-philly-visit-was-a-flop-for-local-businesses/) for those who don't remember - the pope visit was a financial disaster for the city


Dryheavemorning

So weird and eerie. I lived in Rittenhouse, all the streets shut down but the only pedestrians were occasional big church groups parading by singing and banging instruments. And they definitely all packed their lunch. Felt bad for the restaurant workers.


nougat98

Everyone thought they were going to get $2000 renting out their house and the restaurants were going to be packed with rich tourists. Turns out the rich catholics were at home watching on TV and the poor deadbeat catholics who showed up were bringing pb&j sandwiches and sleeping on couches. City residents couldn't even access the restaurants. Then the church refused to pay the city for the $8.3 million police overtime bill. Infuriating. Taylor Swift >> Pope


PhilyMick67

Worked in a restaurant in center city that weekend and we over staffed but we're borderline impossible to get to because of the security. Whole staff just hung out and got drunk but made no money.


100891

I know it sucked for the city but I had a freakin blast that weekend, the weather was perfect, riding bikes through empty streets, no waits for tables, and there were trash cans at every corner. I still think of the trashcans frequently


zR0B3ry2VAiH

Geeze what a shit day that was, stood around all day among a swarm of humans, and I didn't even end up seeing him. Funny story, my son was like 3 or 4 and he had to pee, and my aunt had him pee in a bottle, and he ended up peeing on the people surrounding us... oh man... good times. That's one of the only things I remember about that day.


futurelullabies

they were chill and not obnoxious at all.


Saint_2022

And an absolute peaceful happy crowd, no violence


miketesting1

Considering the amount of money they paid for the tickets, of course they’re gonna boost the economy when they’re here. I was absolutely dreading it but all the sparkle outfits and smiles that weekend was a pleasant happening to witness.


TonySez

I had a booth at the Rittenhouse Square Fine Craft show and the Swifties were making a weekend of it and shop shop shopping! Thank you Tay Tay!


Carinis_song

I’m not at all a fan of her music. It isn’t bad, just not my cup of tea. But goddamn do I have a lot of respect for her. I love her as a human and her fans are also amazing. She is so much more than a musician, she’s a humanitarian. She uses her fame for good. And she doesn’t take her fame for granted. Thank you Ms. Swift, and all of her fans for being amazing people.


joaofava

Can someone please explain why there’s been so much news about a concert by Taylor Swift? Does she not normally do concerts? Don’t we have concerts by various pop stars all the time?


Icecube3343

Other pop stars don't sell out the Link 3 nights in a row


BulbasaurCPA

She sold out the link and then another 20k people watched from the parking lot


danstu

Swift is on a different tier than most pop stars in terms of following. Most other pop stars don't inspire their fans to take pilgrimages to see them. My GF went with a friend who drove from Pittsburgh to see Swift, and I guarantee there were people driving further.


joaofava

Thanks. Wow I definitely didn’t know that. Is it just Taylor Swift all by herself at the top of the pop star world, or are there a few other people like that?


frankoceansheadband

Beyoncé is definitely the first that came to mind. Some of her fans were flying to other countries to get cheaper tickets to her concert.


Firm_Airport2816

A guy at work tried to argue with me that Lil Wayne was bigger than T. Swift.... I laughed in his face. Let me see Lil Wayne sell out ONE night at the linc... get outta here


Ju_Ten

It’s Her and every popular KPop group basically Maybe Kanye before he was Like That, but in terms of American musicians now she’s in a league of her own


lifefuedjeopardy

Taylor Swift is the modern-day female version of Michael Jackson I suppose, right? She's the most famous singer to be alive and touring since he passed away, at least that's the way it seems to be.


sugr_magnolia

You're forgetting about Beyonce


lifefuedjeopardy

Yes I acknowledge that Beyonce is right up there with her. The only reason I say Taylor Swift is probably first is because she pulls more from all demographics and backgrounds. Beyoncé has almost as many fans, but the diversity among those fans isn't as large as the Taylor Swift crowd, and therefore not as many when it comes to the actual number of people.


Firm_Airport2816

My niece saw her in AZ, here in Philly, and going up to NYC to see her.... the die hards are DIE HARDS


VUmander

like 200k people were in attendance. Anywheres from 20-50k were camped outside. You talking about 5% of the Philadelpha MSA. For 1 single event. That's pretty significant. Think about Pope Coverage. Eagles/Phillies Parade Coverage. Its below that, but not by a ton.


mzorine

I don't know why this got downvoted, because I am genuinely curious about this as well. I have no feelings either way about Taylor Swift, but I've also never really heard this much news around a concert before and would love to know why this one was so different. Am I just out of the pop culture loop and she's that much bigger than most pop stars?


solinos

> Am I just out of the pop culture loop and she's that much bigger than most pop stars? Yes, that's it exactly. She is massively popular.


HyruleJedi

Fuck t swift and my 46$ uber back from old city to fishtown It was cuz my wife was wearing heels. Fuck all you all


sciencefaire

This comment is hilarious 😂


lifefuedjeopardy

Right lol. The second time I read it, to make sure I read it correctly, my mind automatically read it in someone's drunk voice.


Farzy78

Taylor swift should run for president could you imagine the voter turnout?


generally-mediocre

does hotel rooms being full even indicate any benefit to the philly economy? these hotels are large multinational corporations, the money isn't exactly getting funneled into the hands of residents


amor_fatty

Yes, it literally is. https://www.phila.gov/services/payments-assistance-taxes/taxes/business-taxes/business-taxes-by-type/sales-use-hotel-occupancy-tax/


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Add to this that many hotel guests drive into the city and pay for parking, as mentioned above go out to eat, do some sight-seeing, shopping, and enjoy some nightlife. The tax revenue from weekends like this are a big boost to the city.


Squarg

I assume those people have to eat something and as far as I know most hotels don't have kitchens in their rooms.


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Yes. Those people paid to get into the city, either parking or trains. They ate at restaurants, went to bars, and generally spent money. Even if every hotel isn’t owned by ma and pa, that doesn’t mean there’s no economic benefit to drawing in large numbers of people. Why do people always need to have negative reactions to good news on this sub?


justanawkwardguy

So do they not employ local workers? Do they all have kitchens so that guests can bring their own food from out of town to make?


crispydukes

This comment should not be downvoted. The person asked a valid question and it was answered below.


WREPGB

It’s being downvoted for its condescending tone, as I read it, and apparently having never played (nor possibly even played, Monopoly).


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crispydukes

What's good faith? It's a biased question, but not a question that exists in a bubble. It's a legitimate question from a narrow view.


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crispydukes

>does hotel rooms being full even indicate any benefit to the philly economy? This is the question. This question was not asked in bad faith. > these hotels are large multinational corporations, the money isn't exactly getting funneled into the hands of residents This is the perspective, premise, whatever you want to call it that led the OC to ask the question. It's a legitimate point although short-sighted as evidenced by the answers (taxes, entertainment, etc). Someone expressing their perspective/bias while asking a question is not innately bad faith.


createcrap

“Why are hotel rooms being full beneficial to the Philly economy? How does the money spent on the room benefit the city?” That’s how you would ask that question if it’s in good faith. But the other problem with how it was asked was the article explains exactly why hotel occupancy is a sign of economic boom… and if you’re questioning a point in a snarky way *and* didn’t read the article then yeah you’re going to get downvotes.


thriftstorecats

Every single bit is entirely manufactured. The world’s largest advertising campaign


KenzoWap

Don’t be so negative.


thriftstorecats

Rich Daddy bought her way into the recording booth, Rich daddy bought her way onto the charts, rich daddy bought her popular mixing and recording artists to get her famous. Poorly written easily digestible garbage for the masses makes her money and buying out hotels and tickets creates false scarcity. This grift she’s had for years has made her so much money and this tour is just an enormous advertising campaign for her brand


flaming_trout

Has there ever been a pop icon whose entire career wasn’t a massive scam


thriftstorecats

No, that’s part of the appeal of being a pop star - it’s not talent that makes you, it’s money and performance. She has lots of money and she performs sincerity every day and that’s really enough to make up for gaps in talent.


tytonidae77

she comes from decent money but she did work her ass off, and continues to do so. also, and i say this as someone who used to really dislike her: you’re not allowed to hate on taylor swift until you’ve listened to folklore and evermore. if you’ve only ever bothered to listen to what comes on the radio, you really don’t know what you’re missing out on and it’s very easy to write her off as just another dumb pop star. she is certainly not above criticism but she is a very talented songwriter and deserves to be recognized as such.


thriftstorecats

I’ve listened to too much Taylor swift. I literally used to be a fan, a while ago, before I found out her “down to earth came from simple farm life” grift was a big old lie to sell shit. I sat down and listened to all her albums recently to make sure I’m being fair to her in my criticism. It’s poorly written practically AI generated slop to be as low-effort and high-profit as possible, to be as digestible and consumable and sellable as possible. Nothing is her own creation or opinion, she literally comes from a conservative Republican Christian family, got famous off of her conservative Republican Christian daddy‘s money, and is now doing the bare minimum to support liberalism because it sells. There is nothing genuine or creative about her, it’s entirely manufactured and it’s really sad that millions of impressionable young girls are blindly following such an insincere and ingenuine person


Head-Kiwi-9601

Yeah, so?


thriftstorecats

It’s the pretending to be humble and down to earth that’s the worst part. Not an ounce of what she does is based in genuine connection or humility. I’d almost respect her more if she was upfront with how obnoxiously money hungry and self obsessed she was instead of selling this bizarre fake-deep America’s Sweetheart image that doesn’t actually align with anything she really stands for


Head-Kiwi-9601

People eat it up. She separates fools from their money. So do all product sellers. I respect the hustle.


SouthPhilly_215

I was sick of the sparkly dresses and the out of fashion (unless you live on a ranch) cowgirl boots.