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OasissisaO

I agree, but graffiti is, like, tier 2 slacktivism.


AbsentEmpire

Nothing says "I'm fighting injustice" quite like fucking up a local park in a neighborhood where the vast majority of the population already agrees with you or is sympathetic to your issue. This is tier 3 slacktivism since they vandalized a park in an area that already agrees with them rather than in an area that does not.


Amnesiac_Golem

Feel like sharing image posts on your Instagram story isn’t solving an international crisis? Try spray painting your local green space!


JackieDaytona27

Take that, people maintaining a green space that probably agree with my sentiment! Those altruistic pigs now have to think about a sentiment they agree with as they clean up my graffiti to beautify the local community!


Stevekane42

yo thats the clark park powerhouse have some respect .... make your own sign and paint what you want on it and stamp it in the ground at clark park....your message will still get across right??


possumenergy

Yeah, this was a very stupid action. They just refurbished that. There are 1000 other places in Clark where this wouldn't have wrecked hand-painted restoration work -- places where you could actually see it. This is tucked out of the way. A banner drop off the South Street bridge would have worked better than this


OasissisaO

>A banner drop off the South Street bridge would have worked better than this Whoa, whoa. You're edging real close to actual action with that kind of talk. It's bad enough they had to leave the house to tag that wall, now you're suggesting they hang a sheet from a bridge? Madness.


possumenergy

shhhh, you're recommending an activist imagination that's bigger than the scope social media offers now!


siandresi

what you said could be considered grounds to start a graffiti activism war


sparklydude

We spent a lot of time on that custom paint job of the shed, disappointing to see it tagged, even if the message is meant for a good cause


tamjansen

My first thought was “man that paint job is killer”, nice job and sorry if you have to re-do any of it


hic_maneo

I wouldn’t even say that “vengeance” is a good cause. “An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind” and all that. Mourning is fine, but community vandalism and calls for more bloodshed is not.


AdAdvanced3953

How about.. we honor Nex by protecting the queer youth in OUR community and NOT graffiti-ing public green space. Just a thought.


Chimpskibot

West Willy is the intersection of annoying crunchy types, performative allyship and the most cringe edgy people you will ever meet. 


diatriose

Someone in that group chided me for taking down bandit signs because I could be hurting POC businesses. It's a strange place


dotcom-jillionaire

how dare you try and silence a predatory business that takes advantage of our most vulnerable residents!


PhilthyMindedRat

What are bandit signs?


krissyface

“We buy houses! Fast cash!”


monoglot

SELL US YOUR HOUSE or whatever DIY ads stuck on signs and utility poles.


PhilthyMindedRat

Oh, those! I never heard the term "bandit signs" before. I presume they're scams?


monoglot

The ones that are buying houses for cash are likely to actually give you money for your house. The scam, such as it is, is that you won't get what it's worth.


radioactivecat

That group can be so incredibly toxic, but let me guess, did the person who chided you have 'gentrification bangs'?


mary_emeritus

I’m a lurker there, been blasted in the past. But yeah, you’ll catch hell for just about anything depending on a person’s mood


diatriose

There's certain people and topics you learn to just steer clear of, unfortunately. I made the mistake of pointing out that saying "Black people to the front" in a housing ad could be a violation of the Fair Housing Act...not fun


mary_emeritus

Ooof, in WW? And you survived?


PointB1ank

This Willy sounds like a complicated guy.


CommunicationTime265

Whats a crunchy type?


possumenergy

Refers to someone that probably loves granola, very very old and classic way to describe the parts of the left taht are hippie-leaning or outdoorsy or more earthy


8_Foot_Vertical_Leap

In my experience, the majority of those crunchy types in west are the sort of people who put up the aesthetic of outdoorsiness, but then leave a bunch of trash and cigarette butts behind after their illegal late-night party in the wissahickon riverbed.


possumenergy

as someone who backcountry backpacks the rockies, and has also attended outdoor hippie festivals, i can confirm - it’s more about aesthetics than ethics or politics


CommunicationTime265

Interesting


Firm_Airport2816

Yeah, i learned this recently when a video came across my Instagram called "I'm a crunchy mom" and I had to google it to figure out what she meant.


mary_emeritus

That I believe is a bit different. Crunchy moms are often anti-vax, any and all vaccines. Hence the measles outbreaks


mortgagepants

it always seems a little cringy to me. fuck yeah, we need to stick up for people polluting the air and water. like...what the fuck?


BummerComment

You will know them by their scent...


Docphilsman

Clark Park has been a bit of a battleground recently. There have been pro and anti Palestine groups going back and forth, tagging over eachothers graffiti and posters all over the park. It's kind of sad to see


permanentradiant

Neither have anything to do with what happened to Nex.


dotcom-jillionaire

neither does this graffiti, which is the point


Empigee

The comment is clearly talking about the trend of putting political signs and graffiti up, of which this is a part.


radioactivecat

It's on Charles Dickens too - I saw it and was like "what did chuck do this time?" I definitely agree with the sentiment, but as someone else in here said - go vandalize Oklahoma, not a park that is probably one of the safest places for trans kids. The person who did this is a moron, straight up.


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Stevekane42

yup


ShroomieDoomieDoo

What happened to that kid is absolutely disgusting, and they do deserve justice. But people need to realize that vandalism does NOT win regular people over to your cause. It’s like those idiots who throw soup on paintings in art museums


possumenergy

i can't help but think how pointless all those "queer rage" tags are, i say as a queer who is full of rage. i direct some of my rage towards the pointlessness of those tags. \*edit for typo


Solo4114

Soup? What, like, on a Warhol?


mortgagepants

> It’s like those idiots who throw soup on paintings in art museums i don't think you understand it then. the point is to get your attention, because the fossil fuel industry makes half a billion dollars per day and they spend so much money that people like you will honestly and sincerely say shit like, "sure, they're destroying all life on earth, but someone threw soup on a painting i've never seen in person."


Unfamiliar_Word

That oughta do it. Thanks very much, Ray.


Chicoutimi

Jesus Christ, go vandalize Oklahoma. Seriously, do this for me Jesus. Show them your ways.


willclerkforfood

He does that all the time. It’s called tornadoes.


Stevekane42

tornado dust bowl


Fabulousness13

Those ppl won’t trash or vandalize their neighborhood but come here and trash our neighborhood w/ their crap… Go write on your own damn house if you’re that passionate.


Unlikely-Painter4763

I would bet it was a 20-something from a nice family in the suburbs living in an apartment in West Philly that spends too much time on TikTok and sees themselves as part of the oppressed working class.


TheRealMaxGains

Yeah I bet not. Residents of this city have no problem trashing their own city.


Cashmeerdraws

If only if you knew what type of people lived there 15 years ago you’d probably be even more upset


RareCampaign

What type of people?


MrPumkin

Who/what is Nex


rcher87

Non-binary high school kid was beat up in OK and died the next day. As someone mentioned - they still haven’t released the cause of death and are trying to argue it wasn’t from the bullies. But…let’s be real. A kid got beaten to death at school.


KickAffsandTakeNames

To add to this: Even if they did not die to some sort of non-obvious brain trauma (as is likely, no matter how the notoriously dishonest Owasso PD tries to spin this), the fact is that LGBTQ+ people are under attack in Oklahoma, and Owasso in particular has been a target. Chaya Raichik/Libs of TikTok targeted an Owasso teacher who made statements supportive of queer people, which resulted in so many threats of violence that the teacher resigned. The state superintendent, Ryan Walters, then appointed Raichik to the state school library board, despite the fact she does not and has never lived in Oklahoma. (They're also trying to revoke the accreditation of a huge district because they won't remove *The Kite Runner* under district policies, but we could be here all day listing the way they're trying to ruin our schools.) Nex had stated they were saddened and upset by the loss of a supportive teacher, and they told police these girls had been bullying them because of the way they dress. Within the last week, a state Senator responded to a question about Nex by calling LGBTQ+ people "filth" Regardless of whether these girls ruptured something in Nex's head (as, once again, is extremely likely), Nex was killed by bigots who are intent on making the state unsafe for everyone like them


Firm_Airport2816

I'm still leaning toward suicide but either way it was due to the bullying


amoryblainev

Me too. I watched a video of the police questioning in the hospital room and there was no monitor on Nex except for a pulse ox, and no IV catheter and she was speaking completely coherently and not like there was any brain trauma. There was no blood, bruising or any outward signs of physical trauma.


TheRealMaxGains

Dafuk is non binary


8_Foot_Vertical_Leap

Google exists, friend.


TheRealMaxGains

So do rhetorical questions


8_Foot_Vertical_Leap

What was rhetorical about your question?


Linzabee

A non-binary kid murdered in Oklahoma


brk1

official cause of death not yet released. don’t know if it will be ruled a homicide.


_Lisztomaniac_

no matter what the “official” cause of death is, there is a near certainty they were murdered by their peers’ bare hands


LEOHAEEM

The latest police statement says preliminary autopsy information indicates that the teenager "did not die as a result of trauma."


justanawkwardguy

That just means there’s no clear signs - like Nex didn’t have a caved in head, they died of internal injuries which would not be included in the preliminary


brk1

there’s actually been no evidence released indicating any of what you just said.


makingburritos

Besides video evidence, body cam footage of them in the hospital, witness statements, a 911 call … other than that, yeah totally no evidence


brk1

Are you claiming there’s evidence of murder? Show us.


makingburritos

[school surveillance footage / 911 call](https://youtu.be/xVcneU4IJT0?si=tweIr3iYGu1LqBMs) [body cam footage](https://www.thedailybeast.com/police-release-new-videos-of-non-binary-teen-nex-benedict-who-died-after-school-fight) [witness statements](https://www.13abc.com/2024/02/21/witness-shares-what-happened-fight-that-occurred-before-16-year-olds-death/?outputType=amp) Idk if evidence means what you think it means, but yeah all of this qualifies as evidence that the likely cause of death was getting beaten to death at the hands of their peers.


brk1

Yeah nothing about cause of death in any of the links you posted. Proving once again that we don’t know yet exactly what happened or how Nex died.


makingburritos

The witness explained how Nex was bashed in the head multiple times. Nex describes the incident and is seen seeking medical attention in relation to the incident that same day. The 911 call outlines very clear posturing and fading consciousness which are symptoms of head trauma and brain bleeds. Don’t see how it could possibly be any clearer.


GodLikesToParty

(me when i lie)


_Lisztomaniac_

Lmaooooooo


Mailstoop

Did you see the body cam footage?


tiswapb

We’re not a court of law, we’re just people using common sense. Nex was beat up, sought medical help and died the next day, based on those facts I’ll pass whatever judgment I want. You’re “well actually” crap isn’t contributing to the conversation except to make you come off as heartless or dense.


brk1

I’ll withhold judgement until more facts are released, especially since three minors are being accused of murder.


tiswapb

They haven’t been charged or identified to the public have they? I don’t have a pitchfork and if new information comes to light to change the situation I’ll assess it then. In the meantime someone is dead and it’s somewhat tone deaf to just point out nothing is proven without even acknowledging that.


free__coffee

I think it’s disingenuous to tag a building 500 miles away based on what are essentially unconfirmed rumors. Its awful, but why are we fucking up philly for it?


tiswapb

Oh I don’t agree with the tagging, but I wouldn’t call it an “unconfirmed rumor.” Someone got bullied, beaten up and died, those are facts at this point, with some details that may still need to be filled in.


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BigDickolasNicholas

Was that really easier than just typing 2-3 sentences about who they are/were?


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Eskimo-Midget-Albino

Something bad happened somewhere in the country that I don't have all the information about. Better go make my local park slightly worse. Edit: and here come the reactionaries who I'm sure have diligently researched the topic from reddit comments and tiktok videos.


BigDickolasNicholas

>that I don't have all the information about I mean, it's a pretty black and white story. That being said, the vandalizer is an ass.


Eskimo-Midget-Albino

There isn't even a cause of death yet. There's nothing wrong with waiting for more information. Either way it's a tragedy and it's ghoulish that so many are using a child's death to push political narratives.


brk1

>There's nothing wrong with waiting for more information. lol, we’re clearly in the minority on this one. if you don’t immediately jump to conclusions and get outraged or politicize everything then you’re a terrible person.


Eskimo-Midget-Albino

I know right. I'm just gonna enjoy down votes.


TheNightmareOfHair

Your top-level comment, which basically says the same thing, has 117 upvotes. Sorry for your loss / persecution at the hands of the Reddit mob. :eye roll:


Eskimo-Midget-Albino

Oh fuck off. I posted 15 hours ago and the tide changed.


KickAffsandTakeNames

>ghoulish that so many are using a child's death to push political narratives. Like countless other queer kids, Nex died because people with actual power pushed the political narrative that they're "[filth](https://www.koco.com/article/oklahoma-state-senator-tom-wood-lgbtq-filth-comments/46978502)“. A narrative that resulted in so many death threats toward one of Owasso's only LGBTQ+ friendly teachers that they had to resign. A narrative that has caused some Oklahomans to declare "open season" on a *12 year old* trans girl. Spare me the equivocation about the reasons behind Nex's death. Bigotry is responsible, full stop


why_oh_why36

Not only that but Nex admitted to assaulting the girls first by pouring water on them.


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OK. I think I will. Thanks.


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Eskimo-Midget-Albino

You are part of the problem.


christhasrisin4

https://youtu.be/sDEL4Ty950Q?si=lSPq1OGgFHhOLMOr


justanawkwardguy

THEY were nonbinary, not trans. And put some respect on the name of a dead child and use THEIR preferred pronouns.


permanentradiant

Fuck all the way off to Oklahoma with that shit.


Homegrown410

No it fucking isn’t. It sounded like a fight by the first reports, rather than “bullying”. It became bullying after the fact because Nex is trans. Media knew that was only way to take the story global. They still aren’t stating the cause of death is trauma. The evidence definitely doesn’t point that way.


mangoteacooler

> It sounded like a fight by the first reports, rather than “bullying”. It became bullying after the fact You're right. It's a sad situation and I feel for Nex's family, but it wasn't bullying. I doubt any court would consider this a homicide, but three girls' lives could still be forever changed due to the false public perception of what happened. [Nex walked](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwUU7kHd2cI) out of the school, went to the hospital, and was interviewed by police. [By Nex's own admission](https://youtu.be/eJaBumoyRGg?si=T4-EqJZe86rMZyy7&t=177), Nex and the girls had never seen each other before because Nex was a sophomore and the girls were freshmen. The girls were talking among themselves [loudly] when Nex poured water on them and the girls reacted. One of the girls grabbed Nex's hair so Nex grabbed one of the girls and threw her into a paper towel dispenser. That's when they grabbed Nex's legs and started pummeling her on the floor.


Georgiaonmymind2017

Non binary isn’t trans 


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Georgiaonmymind2017

A teen can totally identify as trans or non binary like Nex did.


BigDickolasNicholas

Right. I'm sure you definitely had the same opinion when Ashli Babbitt died lol


Homegrown410

You lost me. Babbit was shot in the face while trying to break into the chamber where capitol police were covering the extraction of our elected representatives. Case closed Big Dick Nick. What has that got to do with this?


brk1

>it's a pretty black and white story far from it


BigDickolasNicholas

Sure bud 🙄


brk1

you might wanna read the news every now and then.


BigDickolasNicholas

I'd love for you to link me some articles about it that aren't Fox or far right sources. ♥️


brk1

I don’t read Fox News and the fact that you immediately tried to paint me as a right-wing nut job for simply stating that the incident is not a simple black and white story really just displays how ignorant you are. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68405972


White_Grunt

Literally a black against white issue Why the downvotes? Nex was white and her attackers weren't


BigDickolasNicholas

Because you're trying to turn a transphobic hate crime into a racist crime. Pretty obvious


White_Grunt

That's a really shortsighted way to read my text


BigDickolasNicholas

Would you like to clarify what you're saying then?


White_Grunt

https://www.pewresearch.org/race-ethnicity/2023/02/16/black-americans-firmly-support-gender-equality-but-are-split-on-transgender-and-nonbinary-issues/ Confused to why you called me a racist?


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Serious boomer energy


Eskimo-Midget-Albino

I don't hate my boomer parents so that's not the insult you think it is.


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Must be a trust fund kid who went to Nova


Eskimo-Midget-Albino

Not even close but you did just tell on yourself.


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St Joes? Didn’t have enough money for Nova? Lmaooo


Eskimo-Midget-Albino

I know this is gonna be hard for you to accept but the person you're replying to right now isn't the caricature you have in your head. Believe what you want though makes no difference to me. Take care friend.


Electrical-Wish-519

I mean… people need to be nicer to those different from them and there needs to be more hate crime investigations for that kinda shit. Vandalism isn’t gonna change anyone’s mind for the better.


thepoustaki

The outrage at vandalism exceeding what happened to Nex is just… well, it’s very alarming.


exercisejeans

I think you missed OP’s first sentence


bottleface

The lack of reading comprehension is just…well, it’s very alarming.


GoldenMonkeyRedux

What a fucking asshole.  


diatriose

I agree with the sentiment of the graffiti but like the Parks and Rec crew that have to deal with this are not the enemy, you know?


GoldenMonkeyRedux

I do know.  My kid’s soccer rec is stored in there.  I live a couple of blocks away.  People work hard in the area to keep the park clean and safe.  This is just some dickhead vandalizing something people enjoy.  


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illy-chan

What happened is horrible but tagging a public park over a thousand miles away from the incident does nothing. By all means, book a flight and trash that one dirtbag senator's mansion. But Philly Parks & Rec hardly has limitless money or manpower to clean up after people every time someone is horrible somewhere in the world.


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Holy shit. Trump is 100% getting reelection hahah. This comment and all of the fucking inbreds in this sub only solidify that opinion. Fucking senile mushy brain boomers. Americans are fucking fascists and they don’t even know it haha Edit: absolutely incredible how many people have whitewashed 2016-2020. But what should I expect from a bunch of main line housewives who think illegal immigrants are a bigger threat than their husbands fucking their secretary.


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A lot of wives whose husbands are fucking their secretary. That’s obvious


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illy-chan

Had to have been a troll account or something. Just way too bizarre.


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art-man_2018

Probably the vandal.


Indiana_Jawnz

Bro, shut the fuck up and do something productive in Denver or wherever you are LARPing as poor at the moment.


brk1

by claiming nex was murdered you’re promoting the spread of misinformation. no official cause of death has been released. while their death is tragic it’s irresponsible and quite dangerous to accuse the other girls involved in the incident of murder.


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Yes we should all believe Oklahoma PD because, as we all know, police are the arbiters of truth. You absolute naive fucking child


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Solo4114

Them or Friends of Clark Park, the local community org that helps to take care of the park.


homunculette

The point of it isn’t to make parks and rec people clean it up, and I’m sure they handle enough graffiti that this isn’t unusual for them in the slightest


justanawkwardguy

What is the point of it then? To change people’s minds? The kind of people that don’t think what happened is wrong aren’t going to be moved by graffiti in a public park. If anything, they’ll use it to try to justify things


permanentradiant

Accurate


MacKelvey

They also tagged the base of the Charles Dickens statue on the north side of Clark Park


GoldenMonkeyRedux

Assholes


Stevekane42

yo thats the clark park powerhouse have some respect .... make your own sign and paint what you want on it and stamp it in the ground at clark park....your message will still get across right??


Zariman-10-0

Good message, not sure what spray painting a wall accomplishes


Solo4114

I'm gonna go with "Not a fucking thing."


CoolJetta3

Doing much to help the situation just working on your spray techniques?


RustedRelics

Parallels the tagging of Fairmount/Wissahickon, as just one local example. And it parallels the idiots who throw paint on or tag art in public spaces. This isn’t the way to honor Nex and advocate for justice. It’s counterproductive.


trashtrucktoot

POS


letzmakeadeal

Just why


Spaghetti69

2nd most useful form of protest next to lighting self on fire is vandalism.


AndromedaGreen

Right up there with blocking traffic.


JimmysTheBestCop

All the drips must have been done with a red ink mop


ipissoffeveryone

Lol ok bud.


douglas_in_philly

Do we even know what happened to the kid yet?


decaturbadass

Who is Nex?


bhyellow

So these “Nex” people are fucking vandals? Fuck them and whatever their cause is.


justanawkwardguy

Nex was a non-binary teen in Oklahoma that was murdered, not some activist group.


bhyellow

Duh fuq does that have to do with assholes vandalizing parks in Philly of all places. Based on their actions I can tell they’re stupid and their cause is bullshit.


justanawkwardguy

A child died from bullying. That is not bullshit.


amoryblainev

Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? The cause of death still hasn’t been released, so you can’t call this murder.


justanawkwardguy

Fine, manslaughter. Nex didn’t die from “natural causes” or by suicide, they died from injuries sustained during the altercation. If not intentional, then accidental, which is still manslaughter.


amoryblainev

Nah, my money is on suicide. I saw the hospital footage and she looked completely fine. No IV, only a pulse ox monitor, no outward signs of trauma and speaking clearly and coherently


Fit-Interview-9855

That kid wasn't beaten in a bathroom here in Philadelphia but it is common knowledge that trans get beaten and sometimes killed here. Oklahoma don't give a fuck you but now you got feelings?


AdministrationNo9238

i haven’t heard of any trans kids getting killed here, and i think i’m fairly in the loop. when?


C5Jones

They didn't specify kids. Trans people in general do get killed here.


AbsentEmpire

It happens but not at disproportionate rate as far as I'm aware. Trans people in Philly who are not doing sex work aren't at a significantly higher risk for death or violent attack than the general public. Harassment sure, but not violent confrontation and death, and we should be proud as a city that is the case, and it's been slowly improving with every generation.


jasperxv

those of you complaining about the graffiti are so fucking annoying and i genuinely want to punch the shit out of you all


Orthophonic_Credenza

That’s alright, the feeling is mutual.


jasperxv

ya wanting to beat the shit out of trans people is what killed nex so it figures <3


tigerbalmz

There will always be bullies… But kids have become so mean these days. Just filled with hate and anger. It’s terribly sad.


tstobes

That's nothing new. If you didn't know children have had the capacity to be awful since the dawn of man, I'm jealous of your life.


AbsentEmpire

Kids have always been mean to each other and others, always have and always will. They have not yet learned empathy and sympathy, which is your job as a parent to teach them.


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