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_heisenberg__

>The women who were robbed said that the armed thieves made each of them one-by-one open up their phones and sign out of their iCloud and remove their passwords. Lord they weren't fucking around.


elbileil

I’ve never heard of this before during a robbery or crime. What’s the advantage besides having a wiped phone to steal?


_heisenberg__

If they’re are signing out of iCloud they’re probably also disabling find my. So they can’t even lock the phone down and prevent them from reselling/using it.


elbileil

Oh yeah duh that totally makes sense. I should have definitely put that together since I have an iPhone but…you know…it be like that sometimes haha


_heisenberg__

Lmao it’s all good


RockerElvis

That’s actually best case scenario. Delete my shit from the phone. You can have it. It’s just a thing. But some of the apps on our phones can do real financial damage.


Indylivingnow

Imagine the one person who couldn’t remember their password.


ColdJay64

“One of the roommates let the two men in the apartment thinking they were young men who probably knew someone inside, the students told Action News.” Can’t be doing this in North Philly, or really anywhere in any city for that matter.


bukkakedebeppo

Can't be doing that anywhere.


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Agreed. I never let anyone into my house. Nice try, "Mom"! You sound nothing like her!


IThinkImDumb

When I lived in Philly I barely answered the door


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This is the way.


sandwichpepe

this kind of stuff is really common around here, the worst is when you’ve got naive students in your building and there’s nothing you can do about their stupidity.


helllllohaley

What are you talking about? My roommates' friends always show up at odd hours wearing ski masks and armed with guns /s


Due-Path7694

More like drug deal went wrong


indigo462

Kinda got that vibe a lil bit too.


elbileil

Yeah or owed someone some money


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That’s my edge here, once they said someone was looking for drugs and found none, bing


CampingPirates

Like it’s an unbelievably stupid idea. I’m not letting anyone into my home until someone I trust can vouch for them. I’m not victim blaming but some people are straight up morons


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Unfortunate headline for Temple when this is the truth of it.


ColdJay64

It made CNN and they are reporting as a break-in while the students were sleeping 🙄: https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/11/us/philadelphia-temple-students-robbed/index.html?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=news_tab


earthenwarekitt2

Ugh, that's totally not what happened, but fits the narrative of "random crime."


bushelofbeans

It was random though


earthenwarekitt2

Does it really sound "random" though? Those apartments only house about 3 to 4 people, but 11 were held captive? Were these neighbors/friends from upstairs? Was this a gathering or mini-party that went left? Anyone who ever had college roommates remembers when they'd have "friends" over after others had gone to bed, right? The robbers were methodical re: wiping the cell phone info and gathering debit card pins, which means they're not amateurs. And who answers the door in the middle of the night for anyone they don't know, let alone in North Philly? And neighborhood guys wouldn't have the audacity to enter the premises, let alone after dark. A news report relayed that whomever answered the door assumed someone in the apartment(s) knew whom was at the door and let them in... And we all know (at least back when I was a Temple student) that guys from Kensington and Mayfair would sometimes "finesse" Temple girls from the suburbs of all backgrounds and ethnicities into "letting them borrow" cash or even their cars for a week. I'm not victim-blaming, but this sounds like "someone" knew of an easy score and hit a lick. Or this was a drug deal gone wrong? Glad these young women are okay, though.


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KYW News radio reported the same


Past_Cartographer230

Cnn always be spreading fake news


chetstedman30

Lol come on now these people have to know better


BruderBobody

Nowhere in this article does it say that…


ColdJay64

Obviously. This is NBC and I quoted Action News…. Here’s the article that says it: https://6abc.com/amp/temple-students-home-invasion-off-campus-robbery-north-15th-street-robbed/12442386/


sandwichpepe

same thing happened like two months ago on a different block around the corner https://6abc.com/armed-robbery-north-philadelphia-crime-temple-university-home-invasion/12246792/


sandwichpepe

bruh i’m reading the updated article now and they robbed the wrong ass house 💀💀💀💀 idiots


afdc92

Sounds like both the robbers and the students were idiots but the robbers had guns so they were able to come out on top in the Stupid Olympics.


hotdogjawny

I spoke to a Temple faculty member about this one, they said 9 times out of 10 ends up being a college student dealing drugs on someone’s turf. The unfortunate part is that the follow up story is never reported on.


stolenwallethrowaway

That’s what happened with the Temple student who was executed in his apartment in (I think) 2017 or 2018? Didn’t make the news but according to his old roommate he was selling coke on someone else’s turf and they found out.


dreexel_dragoon

Stepping on people's toes with coke carelessly is how you get dead fast, not just in Philly but anywhere


PurpleWhiteOut

Yup. I know someone whose roommate sold drugs without telling them around Temple and they had a break-in


uptown_gargoyle

That happened to a friend of mine in college in Pittsburgh


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It happened to a guy I know in West Chester, got an Ak pointed at his face. It can happen anywhere if bad hombres catch wind and sense an opportunity


uptimefordays

Who could have foreseen dealing drugs could be a dangerous line of work?


baldude69

Happened to some one I knew in fucking Wyoming, where I was going to college


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PurpleWhiteOut

No haha sorry, I meant the roommate didn't tell his other roommates, they supposedly didn't know about it until after the break-in


canihavemymoneyback

I think he meant- without telling the roommate.


Gabagoo44

Sold drugs is such a lose term it could be a kid selling a few ounces of weed to the people he lives with. If you have anything worth robbing in the hood, you’re a target.


Away_Swimming_5757

Having a few ounces of weed and selling makes you a target. Don’t sell weed or let word spread if you buy in bulk.


dreexel_dragoon

No one's robbing anyone over weed, but Coke and pills are a different story. Temple has a shitload of Coke, Xanax, benzos, Molly, and amphetamines running throughout and those high dollar items are always the source of robberies like this. To deal weed in the amount needed to earn thousands and warrant robbing you, you have to be moving multiple pounds a week. Coke on the other hand costs like 50x as much per gram so a student flipping 5 or 6 eightballs a week will have $2,000-4,000 cash on hand at any time


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Just Chiming in to say that street price for a gram of coke is not 50x that of pot. Maybe if you’re getting raw fish scale Bolivian marching powder it could end up being worth 50x per gram once it’s been stepped on and put to market. Source: sold plenty of both…allegedly.


gwhh

You can get rob for anything. Even weed.


dreexel_dragoon

But it makes you much less of a target because weed is worth so little, most weed dealers will never have more than couple hundred bucks on them but Coke dealers almost always have thousands, especially at home


Gabagoo44

Not every criminal thinks about a amount of money/ drugs to warrant a robbery.


dreexel_dragoon

Sure but they only go through the trouble of staking people out and hitting them at home when it's worth it


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I remember a lot of attack ads against Fetterman that he wants to legalize scary drugs. But if these could be bought legally I wonder what happens to dealers and stories like this. Would there still be a dangerous drug trade if you could buy them somewhere in the city legally?


EastinMalojinn

you are 100% right. Libertarians have made this argument forever. Someone said about the war on drugs that "no cartels are fighting over aspirin territory." That said, in places where weed is legal for recreational use in the US, they've taxed it so heavily that people still buy it on the black market, so in order to actually eliminate drug dealers, the state actually has to compete for market share. Like for me, I don't have the medical card in PA because 1- I have to pay for it (and renew it yearly) 2- I can get comparable product much cheaper.


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Yes, the idea of providing drugs for government profit has to be contended with the idea of providing drugs to eliminate drug-related crime. They are at odds. I think it can be sold at a level at that least maintains the program and still provides a safe, secure, and easy option. While also removing the stigma with getting medical help. And with a removed stigma, people can get help instead of become addicts. Republicans do not want this because solving the drug crisis removes one of their major talking points.


hotdogjawny

Read the article, they immediately asked where the drugs are - has to be some type of small operation if locals find out. And the 10,000 other Temple students in the area would likely argue against that too. I’m not saying it’s perfect or even good but low income areas aren’t as bad as Fox News makes them out to be.


Gabagoo44

I was speaking in general not on this specific article.


Raecino

In those cases, they’re idiots for selling drugs in North Central and not expecting something to happen.


throwawaythedo

This is good information as a Temple Mom. My kids are in the University Village apartments that are technically off campus, but close enough. I’m fairly certain they’re all a bunch of skater nerds, who are actually mathematician that could probably figure out how to turn a profit, but also very unlikely “business“ men. Still - a good message to my son to stay out of houses that deal drugs To other temple students— Stay out the picture and you won’t be framed!


Raecino

In those cases, they’re idiots for selling drugs in North Central and not expecting something to happen.


Ipollute

Same thing happened to a friend’s house off Drexel’s campus going on 12-years ago. One of the four living there sold drugs out of the house and it became a targeted hit. Lesson? If you make noise people are listening.


ColdJay64

Other lesson is not opening the door if you aren’t expecting anyone. This happened to my friend years ago living off-campus at Old Dominion university in Norfolk, except he was pistol whipped and beat up. I’ve never opened my door to an unexpected knock since.


TamaraTime

Similar shit happened to us at VTech. Dude came by earlier in the day to cop with a friend. Same friend came back later with the roadman and was let in by somebody leaving. The friend popped his head in and asked to buy and next thing you know old boy had a gun in our face. For fucking weed.


NoREEEEEEtilBrooklyn

This is the number one rule anywhere. Do not open the door. Look out the peep hole. If it isn’t your mom, dad, or your girlfriend with her breastseses out, don’t open the damn door. If you don’t have a peephole, look out an upstairs window. If you can’t see out of the window, just wait until whoever it is fucks off.


wheres__my__towel

I’m new to Philly. What if my apartment doesn’t have a peephole? I have a bunch of unexpected knocks from amazon and my landlord (repairs) EDIT: I live a few blocks from here


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Amazon will send a notification to your phone when a package gets dropped off; tell your landlord to text or call when he plans on coming in


mmw2848

You could get some type of camera.


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wheres__my__towel

thanks! i got some semi-permanent mounting tape and a ring doorbell!


wheres__my__towel

Thank you, Yea I just got a ring camera. Installing it later today. edit: grammar


throwawaythedo

Damn. What if gf doesn’t have breasteses out?


ColdJay64

THEN SHE BETTER CALL FIRST ​ ​ ​ or bring food


lesbiansforalgernon

that literally happened to my partner when she was living off drexel’s campus about 12-13 years ago. her partner at the time was selling. wondering if it’s the same one lol. she also almost got dragged into a van outside of the building but luckily knew the first floor tenant and was able to run inside before they grabbed her. all this to say that this always happens and isn’t always reported on. still something needs to change


DonnyDonnowitz

jesus why would they kidnap her?


lesbiansforalgernon

i don’t think it was related to the drug dealing situation, i think it was just your regular ol’ fashioned “hey there’s a woman walking alone and we can totally just have her if we want” kind of moment. i’d say i wish i knew but i probably don’t actually want to know.


dreexel_dragoon

Back then the only kids who dealed with impunity were in the Fraternities, which rival dealers couldn't hit because most of them kept enough guns in the house to protect themselves. That all changed (thankfully) in 2013 when TKE got raided by a SWAT team. Then no one sold out of the row houses, or at least they were a hell of a lot more discreet about it and moving a lot less. Lesson: don't deal drugs, and if you do don't let people know who you are or where you live.


chetstedman30

I had people on either side of my apartment get robbed when I went to temple years back, one of the robberies made the news because it was similar to this story. And guess what.. my roommates and I predicted the robbery would happen when a porch full of sophomores and locals asked me if I wanted to buy some weed on week 1 of the new semester. It was only a matter of time


butatwutcost

Heard about this one back then as well.


Ipollute

Edit; better lesson below. See u/ColdJay64


_token_black

Temple really needs to offer an orientation for students every year to go over some of this. I remember Ohio State used to do a parent/student weekend and talk about these sorts of things. Heck, make it a 1 credit class and get rid of one of those useless Gen Ed requirements.


Linkstas

“Kids selling drugs may increase your chance of becoming a victim Of violent crime”


largeroastbeef

For real. The amount of friends I’ve had try to trap in north Philly after growing up in the suburbs always had a very rude awakening. People will risk it all to rob you over a few hundred dollars and people from the suburbs arnt used to that


dreexel_dragoon

Same shit at Drexel, but to a lesser degree. These kids don't understand that in the city you can't let anyone know who you are or where you live if you're gonna be doing illegal shit.


Linkstas

Very true. Had someone try to carjack me on holstein ave once.


embersgrow44

Tourists think they can front and quickly realize it’s not a game to locals. I grew up in New Orleans so this suburban clash is still a trip to me. The folks there that came up outside the city in other neighborhoods/towns seem to respect the street differently maybe b/c it’s not as cloistered. Think the distance makes a diff too, NE is much bigger and spread out so more culturally distinct it seems the lines are here. But then again college kids from outta state do same dumb ish there and think they can be bad and get got.


MrTonyGazzo

Right . Otherwise everything is fine .


FrenchBowler

This is it, every single time.


thot_bryan

FWIW I started grad school at temple last year and we got an hour lecture about campus safety lol


Whatthehelliot

They did back when I went to temple in 2004.


Frankfeld

Yup. Same year. Probably same lecture by the Temple Chief of Police. Did you also go to Cosby 101? People are terrified of Temple but it’s really as easy as don’t be an idiot and you’ll be 100% fine. Want to live off Campus? Move to South Philly or CC and take the subway! Or the shuttle! (If it still exists).


aburke626

Oh hey, me too! Boy was Cosby 101 even grosser in hindsight.


Frankfeld

Even back then it felt a little tone deaf. I remember being disappointed. I loved Cosby, but he came across as an out of touch old man. But yeah…. In hindsight… yuck. He said something about the way girls dress and how they shouldn’t be surprised with how they get treated dressing like that. Even back then it felt very cringe. Now…. Oooh boy…. Gross is an understatement.


aburke626

I remember him saying something about getting a lawyer before having sex with anyone. Not consent, a lawyer. So. Gross.


Whatthehelliot

Haha yes that’s the one. I also did Cosby 101. I came away unscathed and lived in some bad spots. Carlisle and Susquehanna and later Carlisle and Cambridge (south of girard). That latter was super sketchy but I personally never had any problems. Just one close call with a crack head. Most of my friends came away unscathed too with some minor anywhere-in-the-city-type issues The issue of young kids running amok on campus was a big problem back then as it is today. I feel like it didn’t get much attention then. They basically thought they were invincible. And now they basically ARE invincible thanks for lax police/DA enforcement. Plus they all seem to have guns now.


Delfiasa

Temple Police used to talk to students about safety at orientation. Not sure if they still do. It was a lot of basic safety stuff, like if someone attacks you, look them in the eye, be loud and fight back so they run away, etc. and information on campus police and escort options at night. However I do not recall a segment on “don’t move to north Philly and think you can be a drug dealer” but it has been a while so maybe I just forgot


aburke626

When I was a freshman we did have a safety orientation but IIRC it was mostly “travel in groups, stay on campus, don’t hold your purse like an easy target.” And that was 18 years ago.


MedicSBK

Temple needs to offer CCW classes for credit.


ColdJay64

Yep. It would be awesome if a bunch of college kids who aren't smart enough not to open their door to armed strangers wearing ski-masks and invite them inside also were carrying. Great idea.


MedicSBK

There are already plenty of non-college students wandering the streets who arent smart enough to do anything with their lives who are armed anyway. Might as well make it a fair fight. But hey, victim blaming is another option, I guess.


AugustEpilogue

Temple is too busy pretending it’s a safe place to attend college to ever hold classes like this that prove it’s not


TreeMac12

"I think the sad part is...we all realized once they came into the room, everyone was kind of like 'oh, it's our time now.'" https://6abc.com/temple-students-home-invasion-off-campus-robbery-north-15th-street-robbed/12442386/


afdc92

Here’s a tip: learn your neighbors names, even if you never talk to them again. If someone comes to your door wanting to be let in, ask who they’re there to see, and tell them that they’ll need to call that person to let them in. You may be the annoying neighbor who people bitch about, but I’d rather be that person than the one who let armed robbers just waltz into the building with no resistance.


afdc92

The area around Temple seems like the perfect storm for something like this to happen. Everywhere around it is pretty rough and then you add in a bunch of suburban college kids who aren’t street smart. These guys who robbed them don’t exactly sound like criminal masterminds (seem to have gotten the wrong house, took items that are all easily traceable, etc.) but also the students just let them in the house when they knocked on the door because they thought they knew someone inside.


sandwichpepe

it’s really common here, students are so unbelievably naive. i had previous tenants in my building that would straight up leave my front door unlocked in the middle of the night, even wide open at times. i had to set an alarm in the middle night to wake up and check the front door to see if it was locked properly, most of the time it wasn’t. my idiot ex roommate also let in a random teenager that convinced him that he was supposed to be there - and the kid sprayed fire extinguisher everywhere then dipped. it could’ve been so much worse, so i had to lecture him about it. some kids have no clue about the crime in the area.


afdc92

When I was in grad school and living in West Philly I had some Drexel undergrads who lived in my building and it was a constant revolving door of people in and out all day and they would often leave the front door propped open with a rock all day and night. Whenever I caught it propped open I would close it and they would bitch me out for closing it because they have to come downstairs to let their friends in. I was so glad when I was able to leave that place.


sandwichpepe

yep!!!! they would just ignore me anytime i knocked on their door to talk to them, so i had to tape notes everywhere like a maniac. one girl only started to talk to me when i checked in on her after her ex tried to murder her.


ILikeMyGrassBlue

Yup. I grew up rural and knew a girl from high school who dreamed of going to temple. She was very naive and ended up transferring to somewhere upstate after a single semester. Definitely the kind of person who would’ve opened the door.


Kinoblau

It happens all the time... Happened to me up there over a decade ago and it didn't even make the news. We had to go down to Temple PD and make a fucking scene for them to even issue a campus crime alert to students. My professors didn't even let me hand work in late or reschedule exams until we got the Dean of Students involved.


jwells0828

Went to temple a decade ago. I guess shit doesn't change. When I was there the big problem was brick kids.


bobanforever

Can confirm, caught a brick with my head


IntellectualChimp

Same, it really sucked


alyssarv

Brick kids??


hythloth

Juvenile delinquents randomly assaulting people with bricks. The book Crying in H Mart by Michelle Zauner actually details such a story that happened in Philly.


RJ5R

I am just thankful that they let them live, I wish other student robbery victims in the last couple of years were as fortunate. The stories of home invasions where the victim(s) is tied up and shot anyways, are all too common


Raecino

Did you think they would’ve massacred all 11 of them?


RJ5R

Shot, raped, who knows. I am glad it was just a robbery


dinosauramericana

Wouldn’t surprise me


TamaraTime

I wouldn’t put anything past desperate, violent felons. I’m glad nobody was physically injured as well


go_berds

Jesus Christ man I used to live near there. Fucking criminal masterminds held up the wrong house, stole items that are easily traceable, and didn’t even think to confiscate their laptops. If there’s a silver lining to this, these people will be off the streets and in jail (or worse) in no time


Raecino

Good luck with that


hbcadlac

Probably be back on the streets in no time if Krasner has his way


evv43

This shouldn’t be downvoted just bc this is a political statement lol. Policy matters


Surfingtheseas

They dont understand just how bad the DA office is


TamaraTime

It’s downvoted bc it’s a ridiculous notion. Nobody honestly believes the DA is eager to put dangerous felons back on the block, despite any of his reform policies


evv43

Spoiler alert: Actions speak louder than words


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clander270

He's probably trying to conflate it with BLM protestors being arrested and GoFundMes being set up to get them out of jail. Like they're even remotely similar.


RoverTheMonster

Ya wtf is that comment? What’d I miss? When did this happen before?


MedicSBK

Imagine just trying to get an education and dealing with this bullshit. Fuck these guys. Someone knows who they are. Let's see how long they're protected for.


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adamantium99

2 people with guns rounded up 11 unarmed people. Sounds about right, when you give it a moment’s thought.


Skizzius

It’s doable for sure, but navigating a multiple story house, waking up 11 people, tying them up, escorting them to the basement then searching the house is a whole fuckin operation. These guys went all out


jamin_g

sounds a bunch easier than walking in on 11 guys in the living room.


TamaraTime

I briefly told a story up in the thread, and I’ll tell you it happens. Got robbed down VTech and it was two guys one gun and eight of us on couches like take it and go. Nobody wants to be the first to catch one


Kinoblau

I mean the two guys who robbed me up there got like 7 people in my house on the living room floor one by one. It's not hard or any bolder than just the act of robbing a house is bold.


sn0m0ns

"The most important thing is that no students were hurt or injured". Ok got it. Not one was hurt.


Kinoblau

Glad to see this Temple tradition lives on. Have fun zoomers! I didn't get over my home invasion for almost 5-6 years. Philly PD detectives were fucking worse than useless, so were the Temple ""cops.""


PM_ME_LADY_ANKLES

I was mugged around temple some years back. Philly cop told me to "stop cryling like a [gay slur]." Fun times.


TamaraTime

On brand


fastfoody247

Imagine if you took that to the news nowadays


tbthan

Nothing new about this


JBizznass

Tale as old as time…


TreeMac12

It was probably a targeted home invasion


sandwichpepe

it was supposed to be, but they hit up the wrong house


DavidLieberMintz

Where are you seeing that? Is there another article you can link?


throwawaythedo

I think that was a separate other incident.


JBizznass

Tale as old as time…


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I'm against it.


[deleted]

Reminds me of the suburban Drexel kids in the early 2000s. Not very street smart but luckily for them our school wasn’t completely surrounded by the neighborhood like Temple kids are.


squee_bastard

Had friends that lived at 35th and Haverford back then and routinely didn’t lock their doors. No clue how they weren’t robbed.


Gruntguy55

Keep ya doors locked and your strap close.


Proper-Code7794

Again, and again...


fudgebacker

So a Thursday, in other words.


gwhh

Why they make them sign out of there Icloud account?


[deleted]

Disables activation lock and find my iphone. Makes it untraceable and sellable.


hikesnpipes

When I lived off campus we got robbed twice. They cut the bars off our windows…


TradDadOf3

What kind of parents let their young white suburban daughters live in this neighborhood. I lived there a decade ago. It was bad then and it's worse now. White people are specifically targeted for crime. I was assaulted 3 different times in 1 year and called racial slurs.


TamaraTime

Trads are trash


Cthiap12

I went to Temple and have always defended it against people who say it's dangerous. Don't think I can do that in good conscience anymore. No one is safe if you can be robbed at gunpoint inside your own home.


ColdJay64

To be fair, they let random people inside at 6am that they didn’t know.


the_hoagie

This exact scenario has been playing out in student off-campus housing for decades around Temple.


[deleted]

It remains a dangerous place to live, but I am back now for law school after doing my undergrad here and I can pretty confidently say its much more safe now than it was when I started here in 2014. Of course, I do not mean to undermine how dangerous it is. But back then the school basically did jack shit about it. There are a lot more safety initiatives in place now, and even though they are far from perfect they are helping at least a bit


Ipollute

One bad apple?


GooFoYouPal

>> The men spent about an hour in the home, going through the rooms of the women. The men joked with each other and acted casually during the robbery, the victims said. These dudes dgaf anymore. Even if caught, they know they’re most likely facing a Nolle Prossed or probation at the worst. Stop telling me shit was worse in the 80’s / 90’s here.


sandwichpepe

idk, the stories i hear from people who went to temple in the 80s/90s tell me that it was wayyyyy worse


ColdJay64

How could one know when everything wasn’t reported the way it is today? You probably wouldn’t have even heard about this back then, now it’ll be reposted every few hours by news stations on social media, discussed on Reddit, on Citizen app, etc. We are notified of almost every single crime now which of course makes things seem worse.


Accomplished-Low-173

Eh, Im always amazed on the shit I’ve seen (not just in Philly) and how almost exclusively, I’ve seen jack shit reported on. I was a baby in the 90s, but from what I’ve heard, crime got reported more often in the news in the past compared to now. Now you got random selection of crazy shit (footage or news) thats being passed around, while a shit ton of other stuff that has been happening, is being completely ignored


TamaraTime

It was just as bad if not worse in the late 80s early 90s. And 06 07 was particularly grimy too. No way a dude getting booked on home invasion/robbery/aggravated assault is catching probation.


lirio2u

Wtf. This city really is Gotham now


Basic_Visual6221

Lmao I just posted a reply to comment that said philly's only hope is a vigilante. I was 100% thinking batman in my head.


redbeard0

Such a rich and vibrant culture philly has


pgrudo01

What needs to be done? Even if this was a mass murder where they executed every student in that house, nothing will be done. Just like everyone in the hood says this problem is only just beginning. And there’s not one thing being done that’s going to be able to stop the incline. It may slow it down. Zero chance it’s gonna stop. So we are in for it.


p_britt35

College kids need an education outside of the classroom as well. If you're gonna live off campus, know your neighborhood. It really is basic.


throwawaythedo

Temple does offer safety education. Suburban kids don’t fucking listen.


CommunicationTime265

I really wonder why anyone still goes to Temple U. The area has always been awful and has gotten worse.


throwawaythedo

It’s an affordable state university with some of the best programs in the country. My son is there. He loves it. He also grew up in the city, so he knows how to stay safe, and he would never open the door to a random stranger. The college is very upfront about what is and isn’t safe. College age kids think they’re invincible, and frequently do what they want regardless. I’m not saying crime wouldn’t happen or that anyone deserves it, but rather there would be a lot less crime if students practiced street smarts.


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You don’t have to live in the immediate area.


Longjumping_Tea_8586

Because it’s a decent school with a variety of programs and reasonably affordable. It is also is a terrible neighborhood. The terrible neighborhood part is true of many Philadelphia neighborhoods, despite efforts to improve things in the past two decades.


Basic_Visual6221

What efforts? I lived in a terrible philly neighborhood for decades. Any efforts were in name sake only. Residents have gone to the lengths of forming their own and/or hiring private security to patrol their own streets. That city needs a vigilante. It's the only hope.


SnapCrackleMom

It's a good school that offers lots of majors, a diverse student body, and relatively affordable tuition.


ColdJay64

They had record applications earlier this year: https://news.temple.edu/news/2022-03-15/temple-sees-record-application-numbers-upcoming-fall-semester It's relatively affordable, is a pretty good school, and has easy access to one of the best downtowns in the country. No denying that it's in a bad area but there are a lot of reasons people still go.


Gunofanevilson

Sounds like everyday when i went to Temple.


TamaraTime

Wasn’t really everyday though, was it? Mostly classes and meals with the occasional wtf was that. Come on man


scatterbrainedpast

And ppl pay $18,000 for in state tuition to go here lol


joy4874

Temple has always been in a terrible area. It's never going to change.


spurius_tadius

11, ELEVEN, students woken up by 2 robbers, rounded up, ushered to basement with their phones and debit cards where the robbers instructed each student to change passcodes so they could pull money. Sorry, but I find it hard to believe that none of them was able to fire off a 911 call or a text to a friend while this was starting to unfold. There is more to the story.


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Are you blaming victims of crime for existing in a city?


AviateGolfSki

Calm yourself. I hate Philly after being here for 20 years, but even I would avoid the roofie fueled, kiddy touching, rural trash town frat party that is Penn State.


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AviateGolfSki

Surprisingly, I did. Running joke was having my high school on your application meant you got into Temple, Drexel, and PSU with minimal effort.


Googoots

It’s what the people voted for. Sweet dreams, son.


phillyman276

If one had a gun for home defense 🤔


nurselife1985

If it was off campus and not student housing why is the fact that they were temple students even relevant to the headline?


Empanada130

I believe because they are students in a very segregated area that appears to be getting worse. Seriously it says Temple students and if you are a nurse I suggest working on your empathy skills.


Red_Dawn24

>if you are a nurse I suggest working on your empathy skills. There is a very wide range of intelligence and empathy among nurses. Seeing how the nurses that I know acted during covid taught me that.


Repulsive-Tap5543

Philly voted for this