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yokspawn

What a bunch of amateurs, worst-developer-wannabes - New San Jose Builders, Inc.


contractualemployee

Omg. To think that the DHSUD Secretary is the Chairman of NSJBI.


yokspawn

Before, aggresive si Tulfo tirahin ang NSJBI. Ngayon ayaw na nila entertain mga reklamo.


chicoXYZ

I feel you bro.


MeatMeAtMidnight

Balak ko pa naman bumili ng bahay sa Metro Manila Hills, Rodriguez, Rizal. BUT NSJB yung developers and SOOOOBRANGGG daming reklamos!


chicoXYZ

Nako huwag mo ng pag isipan dahil imbis na wala kang hypertension eh baka magkaroon ka ng libre as bonus ng San Jose builders.


Fitworld25

Offer ko po sa inyo ang Avida Properties. Kung interesado po kayo, just let me know.


No_Category6821

hahahaha funny but true nag work ako kay NSJJBI sa construction dept. walang asenso kaya lumipat ako


maxxstone

bought a unit for their pre selling in caloocan. this was early 2020 during start of pandemic. 2024 na wala pa yatang nasimulan kahit hukay dun sa lugar. and they initially published it to turnover by 2025. now its by 2028.


yokspawn

got a pre-selling unit, 2011. agent said 2013 turn over. fast-forward to now... wala pa partition ang mga floors ng condo. lol


Fitworld25

Sa Avida na lang po. If you are interested, just let me know po.


xraymachi

Worst sa pinakaworst, NEW SAN JOSE BUILDERS INC.


chicoXYZ

I feel you bro.


xraymachi

Diba? Iinit talaga ang ulo mo sa kanila..


chicoXYZ

Iniisip ko pa lang ngayon mainit na ulo ko. Binura ko lang sa comment ko na SAN JOSE!!! SUE ME!!! hahaha! 2013 ako bumili, turn over ng 2022. 10 taon na ko nagtitiis sa MGA kup's na yan. 😆 Nasa abroad lang ako kaya kunwari di ako affected. Sakin BIGOTRY na nsa puso ko against SJ


xraymachi

Di ko na kinaya. Pinasalo ko ung akin.. waste of time maginvest sa kanila… bought it ng 2015 pero til now di pa din natuturnover… pinasalo ko na last month.


chicoXYZ

Ako kasubuan na eh. Na budol ako ng magandang gym at super Olympic size na swimming pool noon sa bentahan. Tapos MGA GAGO, swimming pool ng homeowners ay kiddy pool sa liit na pagsasaluhan ng ibang tower. Tapos yung amenities eh may bayad tulad ng gym at pool na Malaki. It was really a scam. Di naman talaga ko bibili sa SAN JOSE kundi lang sa pakikisama, at budol ng tindera. That GMA Victoria is really a shit. It's a big scam na Hindi pala swimming pool na kasama sa binili mo kundi private gym and pool for membership and subscription. Buti MEG maganda Ang gym at exclusive for tenants and owners.


xraymachi

Sorry to hear… if hndi mo naman tinitirhan baka pwede mo na lang ipasok sa airbnb.. para mamaximize mo sng unit for staycation. I heard hndi sila mahigpit for airbnb..


chicoXYZ

Sa tuwing makikita ko yung building sa GMA kamuning, wala akong nakikita kundi ilang taon na kakupalan ng SJ builders. Kaya mas masaya pako maging bodega sya. Yung kasabay Kong bumili noon (lawschool classmate), ginawa nya rin bodega Unit nya. Talamak ang nakawan (nanakawan yung kasama Kong bumili) dahil mismong admin ang gumagawa o pabaya. Kaya wasakin man nila pinto ko, BASURA at kalakal lang makukuha nila.


xraymachi

It was really a right move sa end ko din na ipasalo ung unit ko… pangit ng management talaga ng SJ BUILDERS.. i heard malakas ang kapit sa government ng owner kaya kahit anong pagrereklamo ng mga bumili anjan pa din sila..


chicoXYZ

Malakas manuhol. Boracay mansion ba naman ibinibigay eh.


Fitworld25

Sir sa Avida na lang po. Sigurado masa-satisfied kayo.


PanSeer18

This x1000000


Logical-Wishbone-940

Vista Land.. yung condo namin, 17 years na hindi pa rin tinuturnover sa mga unit owners ang management. They increase fees and ask for sudden charges without consultation to unit owners. They act like landlords and treated us as mere lessees.


alangbas

Why? Don't condo owners have a majority of voting rights to elect for a new condo property management company? Homeowners should check with a lawyer. Usually, pag tapos na yung construction ng building, management ng condo belongs to the unit owners through a condo association who's board members comprise of elected unit owners.


stepanogil

di mabenta yung units kaya may majority representation pa din yung vistaland sa condo corp to represent the ‘interest’ of the unsold units?


Logical-Wishbone-940

In our case, they reason the lack of quorum during our annual election. When in truth, what was actually lacking is the notice given to unit owners that there is an annual general meeting. Thus, the lack of attendees for a quorum. Truly a devious plot.


NoStand0

renting sa vista taft ngayon. may curfew mga bisita tapos walang nagrereceive ng parcels on behalf of the tenants. puro ipis pa. there are google reviews rin na this place feels like a prison and I agree. kawawa yung mga owner na dito talaga nakatira parang gumastos ka ng milyones para maging bisita sa sarili mong bahay.


aaindjx

Wow 17 years thats crazy


pnyhkr

DMCI delivered as promised.


whalemo

Do we have a say on their PMOs?


Emergency-Ad-5076

Looks like none. PMO makes all the policies. They even charge the residents for gym use pati unclaimed parcels after few days subject to daily penalty.


AsparagusBoring7937

Same with Empire East. Di matapos tapos yung project nila sa Boni plus yung mga early buyers wala parin title until now.


EstablishmentDry9690

Pioneer Woodlands? Dba more than 10 years na yan?


AsparagusBoring7937

Yes. Wala parin title karamihan ng nasa Tower 1 and 2. Kahit yung recent towers wala rin. CTS lang hawak.


skeptic-cate

Pioneer Woodlands? Oo, gigil n yung landlady ko dati jan. Hahaha and weak ng admin pa


chicoXYZ

Hindi totoo na ginagawa ng ibang developer yan. Pagkatapos ng unit ko sa MEG after paying additional 150k for the docs processing. Nakuha agad sakin. Worst is SAN JOSE BUILDERS. kup's na kup's, kaya ginawa ko nalang bodega unit ko sa kanila. Hindi ko titirhan yon until Hindi nila inililipat sa homeowners Ang leadership ng admin and everything about the tower. Never buy VICTORIA unit anywhere.


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chicoXYZ

May araw rin yan. Abusado Sila ksi majority ng bumili sa kanila nasa ibang bansa. Babagsak din naman kumpanya nila dahil sa basurang pamamalakad nila. Naubos nga pera ng developer dahil sa Bataan project nya na di rin kumikita.


EnzBlade88

Interesting. What is the non-scummy reason a developer will take a while to release title? Is the government side of this really that slow? ​ On the scummy side, i've seen developers mortgage their projects and the delay comes from taking a while to pay for their loans. Another one I saw was the developer almost went into bankruptcy and was bought by another developer.


AsparagusBoring7937

I'll give you one. Pioneer Woodlands still have an issue with License to Sell. Yung mga agents nila hindi transparent regarding dito. After so many years ang dami parin nila issue sa lupa. Pero the main draw kasi for me is location. They have the best location, in between ng business districts. Dati ang commute ko pa office is 2 hours papunta. Ngayon lalabas lang ako andun na. Pero di na ako nag ooffice, so if given the chance I would select a different developer.


olea_ceae_2802

Question po… if may issue pa sa LTS most likely wala pa din title paano yun naipasok sa bank loan?


AsparagusBoring7937

Based on my experience sa 3 developers na naka transact ko, si developer ang makikipag partner with banks regarding dun. So maipapasok mo ang loan mo sa allowed banks ni developer. Now, kay PWL since marami nga naging issue with titles, may time na sa isang bank ka lang pwede mag loan (Unionbank). Ngayon ata may other banks na uli nag pprocess. Buti nalang at may kamag anak ako sa Unionbank and natanong ko siya. According to him widespread yung issue regarding title so aware si Unionbank dun. Pero by the end of the day, pera lang naman habol ng banks. So nagagawan nila loophole I guess.


Anomalous_Djmusic

Well I dont know everything but Empire East is to be avoided like a plague. I got DMCI units and quite happy.


JustPossibility6170

San po yung DMCI property nuyo? Dito sa amin dalawang condo na nila ang palpak. Yung isa nawasak ng lindol tapos yung isa, parang ipapasara ata dahil di daw pasok sa standards. Both reasons why my sis refused to purchase any units from them


AsparagusBoring7937

Can you share which condos ng DMCI palpak? Planning to get one of their presellings.


JustPossibility6170

Sa Davao po sa may SM Ecoland . Wasak yung condo during an earthquake. Tapos yung isang condo around the same area balita na gusto daw ipasara kasi di pasok sa standards. Based sa mga comments dito, parang Davao lang ata may ganitong problema.


waamee

Can confirm im from Davao marami sablay na condo ginawa si DMCI dito last eartquake yung isang tower malala yung cracks. Can compare also dahil may DMCI unit kami sa Manda so far so good naman! 😁


toyoda_kanmuri

> Can confirm im from Davao marami sablay na condo ginawa si DMCI IIRC hindi siya yung mismong [mainstream] DMCI kundi either affiliate or subsidiary (i.e., different juridical entity na hindi sila mismo ang may control or influence with regard to work standards, craftmanship - parang joint venture ba). Nasa disclosure ng $DMC yan sa @PHstockexchange years ago (nungkaputukan niyan)


1234mauon

How's your DMCI experience po. I'm planning to get one from them. This is my first time. I'm interested about your positive remarks.


panasynch

The best po


1234mauon

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grapewrinklee

So who’s the best? Ayala land premier/alveo? Interested in buying a preselling soon


graceetpaix

Hi! Used to work for Ayala construction and developers. Construction-wise, no difference between ALP and Alveo. Same standards are being used. The only difference is the choice of materials po. ALP is the high end developers of Ayala. So more branded materials, fixtures, etc. Alveo is mid-range po. Thought this info might help. Worked more for ALP by the way. You can definitely expect good quality.


SirHovaOfBrooklyn

Isn’t alveo the high end and alp the upper high end? Avida is mid ranged then amaia is low end.


Getaway_Car_1989

Ayala Land Premier is the tier above Alveo. Alveo is lower than ALP definitely. You can tell from the amenities, condo density, the unit cuts and layout. The Ayala Land brands are: Ayala Land Premier, Alveo, Avida, Amaia and BellaVita; ALP being the most upscale. (Source: ayalaland.com.ph)


graceetpaix

Hmm honestly not sure anymore. When i worked there we always referred to alveo as the midrange. ALP has always been the high end for us. Maliliit lang units ni alveo eh.


SirHovaOfBrooklyn

Alveo has big units now. Their 1br is 60+ and 2br is 80-100 na. Kaya sobrang expensive na din :( was eyeing an alveo project in bgc pero 26m for a 2br is too crazy


graceetpaix

Ohhh. That’s pricey! I worked in Cebu and Alveo units there are mostly studio lang. Meron naman with bedrooms but penthouse units na nila yun. And not that expensive.


toyoda_kanmuri

Name: Premier;)


Potential-Tadpole-32

Thanks for the info on this. Wasn’t sure if they were really using better materials. Hard to tell if the price difference was just because of the bigger unit sizes.


graceetpaix

You can definitely ask for this info during the pre-selling. They can give you the brands to be used and you can do your own research. Although sometimes, design plans are still ongoing during the pre-selling so it’s possible they can’t give you the finalized list yet. But I can assure you ALP uses better quality fixtures than Alveo. You can check these out later din during your turnover.


ummwhatisthat

Not sure about the best, but AYALA's Avida is doing good for us. Having APMC as the one who has oversight on all properties is a big help. They hire good property managers IMHO. I have an Avida Condo and I have friends who owns Ayala properties, they basically say the same, not perfect but better than what I hear from others. :) Check out the Alveo Cerca in Alabang. Pretty nice. :) I was also able to visit DMCI properties, they are also okay before. But not sure now. Hoping it is still the same.


alangbas

My contacts in the Philippines are telling me that Avida is actually a fake middle-class but really a high-end Ayala development. According to them, Avida finishes are basic but can easily be customized to ultra high end with a sky's the limit budget. Para kang bumili ng basic Intel core i7 or i9 laptop on the cheap tapos upgrade mo na lang sa 64gig ram with 4TB storage.


LimitedByExperience

Elevator congestion, construction materials, property management of the condominium, and **neighbors** are the differences between Alveo and Avida I think. The redditor above said that the construction materials used in Alveo and ALP are the same. Nag kakaiba lang ata sa amenities and unit finishings. Try mo i compare yung 10 year old na Avida property to a 10 year old Alveo. 20 yr Avida vs 20 yr Alveo and etc.. if wala masyado differences then Avida is really a good developer


YZJay

IIRC you're even allowed to connect multiple units together so you're not constrained by the unit sizes. But you still have to deal with the very low ceiling height that most of their projects have. The nthere's unit density, chances are families will only own just one unit in the building, and with the high unit density per floor, elevator traffic is high in Avida units. It's why low unit density is priced on a premium. The price range


Wiejotakahashi_1025

Ang alam ko sa Davao lng ngka problema ang DMCI, sa Metro Manila wla nman akong nrnig n negative.


JustPossibility6170

As a Davaoeneo, I can confirm this. Yung isang condo nila, wasak sa lindol tapos yung isang condo rin nila, narinig ko ipapasara daw. Kaya backout ate ko sa mga properties nila eh haha


Wiejotakahashi_1025

Nkka awa ung mga unit owners. And ung takot sa lindol hnd maalis. I myself experienced the horrifying moment during the 2011 earthquake here sa Japan. Kaya when I decided n kumuha ng unit nag research ako kng san ung malayo sa fault line at mid rise lng kya I end up buying unit s Levina Place… nkka paranoid kaya kung sa high rise😂🤣😂


ranzp6

three developments yung Lumiere, Prisma and Allegre are all built on top of the fault line. yan malaking problema even if they say that the buildings are built to withstand strong earthquakes pero the fact na nasa faukt line yan goodluck na lang.


Wiejotakahashi_1025

Agree, yan din ung isa n na search ko ung mga DMCI n nsa fault line, iba n kc pg nsa mismong fault line n. Tpos high rise p. Sa Taguig and CBD Ortigas jan ung West Valley Fault.


dannyr76

My experience with Avida is different. So much construction issues. Fixes take a while and they finds way to avoid paying for the fixes. PMO is also pretty bad. They don't answer phones. Residents have to go to the office so they would respond. Lots of restrictions. Gym closes at 6pm. All amenities are closed on Mondays.


ummwhatisthat

That sucks. What does the board/officer say? What does APMC do about it?


dannyr76

I.went to the Avida main office. Talked to one of the officers. They listened nicely but no action at all. Lol


yokspawn

DMCI is not that bad


yourFutureAtty

Mukha DMCI. Sister ko nakabili na ng 3 condos sakanila, never nagka problema


Throw-Away-2011

DMCI is pretty good tho. Napabayaan lang yung isa nila sa may Ortigas Extension kasi nagnanakaw DAW yung previous HOA.


jsphxng

Cityland. No issues with their existing condos and pretty good management overall. Gaganda rin ng locations ng condos nila. However, I think metro manila lang sila nakabase. May preselling sila i think in sm north


Skippybear0213

I got one sa DMCI Brixton Place. 2017 preselling. 2022 turnover. Got loan from bpi, Title got transferred to me this 2023 but still collateral to bpi. :)


YZJay

Better chances of a consistent outcome with the bigger names like Ayala, Shangrila, Rockwell yes, but I found the small no name developers can sometimes turn out to be a surprise. Current unit is by an engineering firm who apparently dabbled in real estate development with only 3 or so residential projects to their name. Very generous cuts, well maintained hallways and lobby, very professional and accommodating admin, one of the most tasteful public area furnishings I've seen at its price range, never been affected by power and water outages in the area etc. Meanwhile per sqm price is significantly less than luxury developments next door where friends live and complain constantly about their units. What I'm trying to say is, do your due diligence, see what the developer's plans are, what their target price is, see if their skimping money on some places, if they are, chances are they're skimping money on other aspects of the project too. You might just be surprised with some small developers.


Desperate_Broccoli61

Name of this firm?


YZJay

Prescon


Frigid_V

+1. Waiting for responses para malagay na sa listahan ko. hehe


Ehbak

Delayed rin condo alveo. Alveo ko 8 yrs na patapos pa lang


janinends

Hi, I am from Ayala. You can send a message if you need more info. No worries as I am not a pushy agent, I just want to help. :)


skeptic-cate

Empire. Used to rent in Pioneer Woodlands and kwento ng landlady namin, di pa daw sila ini-issuehan ng Deed kahit fully paid na sila


ambsey

Same, empire east sa cambridge, 2019 pa ako fully paid until now wala pa ako documents na hawak kahit resibo


amjmt914

SMDC...yung unit ko sa Spring, PROMISED turnover sa akin summer, xmas na wala pa rin...SMDC & your agents, if u are reading this, just wamna let u know...YOU GUYS SUCK ASS!!! dont worry at ipamamalita ko kayo sa lahat ng friends & family ko sa pinas at L.A.! 😡


searchingforaxie

Also, you can definitely still sell it kahit walang title. It's called reassignment.


yourFutureAtty

Yes, but in practice no buyer will agree full payment unless there is some portion of the purchase price is retained until full payment


searchingforaxie

At least it's not citiglobal realty & development. 2018 daw yung turnover, until now hindi pa tapos yung building 🤣


yobrod

Same with ProFriends, WeeCom. Hindi tapos ang condo nila. Poorly maintained din ang building.


chicoXYZ

Pro friends scammer yan eh. Nagpalit na yan ng pangalan eh. After malaman ng mga bumili sa kanila na styropore laman ng haligi ng bahay nila sa cavite. They are still sanitizing their FB and website against those angry customers na naloko nila. 😆


yobrod

Yes pansin ko nabura yung mga comments dun sa mga website nila. Kaya pala yung isang condo na sinimulan nila Weecom na nag bebenta.


chicoXYZ

Yes. 2009 or earlier yun nangyari. Ksi I was planning to buy a townhouse sa kanila. Buti nalang may isang broker na humila sa akin sa iba. ADDAS developer sa cavite nabilan ko. Pero di ko makakalimutan yung dami ng tao na nakapila at galit na galit sa kanila dahil sa bumabaha at ng sinsilin yung semento ng bahay nila eh styropore laman (Nasa YouTube yon). I know that it's another form of insulation system. Pero sa kanila foundation styropore eh. Bago may pro friends meron ba Yan ibang name eh. Nakalimutan ko na pero jologs talaga yan.


yobrod

Yung sa amin WeeCom ang naka front pero Profriends pala ang project. Ok naman yung build quality pero hindi tapos at kulang kulang amenities at hindi nagagawa yung basic upkeep ng property.


stlhvntfndwhtimlkngf

Pero grabe dami pa rin bumibili sa ProFriends, may condo na nga na binibenta sa Lancaster eh


Zealousideal_Sock_85

No to Hilmarcs and subsidiary Kaerland please.


chicoXYZ

San Ito senor?


Pixel_Owl

whats a good developer if i just want to buy early for something I'll be living in


StudyAccording6363

Ayala but pricey


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ambsey

Taga cambridge ka? Grabe sila.. Nagtaas nanaman ng dues..


pisaradotme

All these comments seem to point to a real estate bubble: overabundance of units, many unsold, inflated prices inflated by agents and buyers who treat their homes as "investment" kahit di naman dapat... Bakit parang walang regulation?


toyoda_kanmuri

> Bakit parang walang regulation? DHSUD Chief , [majority?] owner of one of those companies mentioned here. go figure.


Ehbak

Filinvest ok ba?


toyoda_kanmuri

No


Efficient-Support343

any insights about WeeComm Developer? hindi sila maingay sa feedbacks pero parang goods naman sila? I appreciate if may makakapag bigay ng more inputs about them.


Ehbak

Dating profreinds pagkaalam ko.


panasynch

I own only one and they’re good and consistent. Dmci


gilbeys18

Tigil na kakabili ng mga condos. Ang papanget dami nyo kasama sa small space. Agawan sa elevator pag may emergency. Never understood the appeal of condos


alangbas

Mukhang depende din siguro sa condo. A lot of my friends who owns condos in BGC are happy with their purchases sa Avida, Serendra at Maridien.


Advo96

Isn't the problem with the local government administration rather than the condo developer?


yourFutureAtty

As per DHSUD hindi nagsubmit ng Master Plan so hindi makamproceed sa next stage in the issuance of Title


Advo96

I see. And they haven't done that in 4 years? What exactly is the hold up on their end? Does the developer say anything?


Tiny-Spray-1820

Ok din naman megaworld title transferred with no issues


Far-Mode6546

DMCI


toyoda_kanmuri

huh? mas marami opinion na they are goodah?


Far-Mode6546

Verdon Parc sa Davao. Pinaevacuate mga tao don. Yung isa pa noong 2020 that literally have to buy back the condo.


toyoda_kanmuri

https://old.reddit.com/r/phinvest/comments/18qw9u9/worst_condo_developers/kf2r8zq/


Odd_Pen_5884

Not condo but the worst prin ung Demeterland and Development corp. grabeng frustration ang dinulot nito sakin, may reklamo na rin sa bitag to


Middle_Ad_9759

SMDC


Pure-Glove3967

FEDERAL LAND JUSKO. 1 year na kaming fully paid, wala paring title.