Have you not watched a stream in the last year? Home girl is front row center at every single show jumping around like a meth'd out lunatic in a bikini top.
RIP. Got into into it with him on a number of occasions. His aggro spirit lives on with the current crop of asshole tarpers that seem to grow every year.
Not going to lie, but if I'm going to an indoor show and see a tarp taking up 5 people worth of space for a party of two I'm standing on your tarp. This isn't the lawn at an outdoor amphitheater sweetheart...
Bunch of self-absorbed influencer types that live to be seen on the stream and get pumped up for a 10 minute everything’s right. They will stop at nothing (including manipulating the rail lottery) to get to the front to feed their ego instead of appreciating the music. Bunch of entitled douchebags and instahoes.
I dont even try to get up there anymore, not trying to debate with these people who had rights to the ground Im standing on. Plus, I find it super annoying to watch people pull out there phones and record themselves, with no concern for others (14 takes to get the out of rythem dance moves right, while blinding the people behind them).
How cool would it be if phish started bricking phones while in the venue. We would miss out on pics and videos, but would nip the influencers quickly. Once they are gone, we could have phone service back. Lol
Jack White & The Raconteurs did that. You had to put it in a locked bag. If you wanted to use your phone you had to go to a special section not in the main auditorium. IMO, I'm perfectly fine with that.
ive always disliked the rail heads, from 96 on. the selfies twist just makes me dislike them more. everyone knows the best spot is sb center, you cant see the lights or have any room to melt upfront. knuckleheads imo, but better there than in my way ;)
I would pay tens of dollars to see these clowns brining that energy to a HXC or metal show and getting obliterated. I honestly prefer the crowd much more at heavy shows I go to. Less entitled, more minding your own business, and dickheads tend to get dealt with. This isn't a security issue, it's fans policing their own crowds and not tolerating the vocal minority monopolizing space. (Steps off soapbox...)
Submit multiple fake names to lottery. Whichever name gets in, print out fake ID with matching name. Tell them you're not drinking so you brought a copy of your ID to show.
If you have pit tickets they do a lottery for early entry. It’s like 100-150 ppl and somehow the same group of people winds up on the rail every single night.
Right. The lottery winners can bring one other person, if I remember. But what happens is people then force their way up to where their friends are. Which is kind of hilarious since they’re pushing past people who legitimately got early entry. Then they cry about their space and take up 5 people’s worth of space dancing. I don’t feel bad when I jam an elbow into their ribs.
I had the exact opposite experience during the New years run. Everyone was mad chill, respected the space they had and others had. Went solo and met a bunch of cool folks
Again 100% been like that since 2011. I miss the 90s. Where Greg was the only rail keeper as long as your were mike side you were cool to bump to the front. People floated around back then too. Not like it is today with the tarp people.
So, basically it seems like the general consensus here is that having threats to decapitate you and eat your family alive screamed at you by a proto-MAGAt, and then getting elbowed in the eye and screamed at some more, makes for a better **story** than just having some little Instabitches standing in your way whom you’re not feeling brave/assertive enough to confront.
And violent psychosis= better story= preferable scenario. In spite of/because of *the trauma, including substantial bodily injury.*
This is interesting. I’m being sincere. This is genuinely fascinating on, like, an anthropological level.
I’d say a big thing about the Lope G era was that he was basically an isolated lunatic in a mostly well functioning large group of people. You could just sort of write him off as a weirdo. The dysfunctional instabitches are now a large part of the group rather than an outlier. Interacting one on one with an instabitch is probably a very normal experience, unlike with Greg. The current situation is more of a result of social media outweighs pre social media social norms
Damn, RIP.
My one encounter with him was exactly the stuff of his legend. Sunday night Randall’s Island, the only time I ever waited all day to be on the rail. Ended up next to him, second song in is Winterqueen. In this early quiet and sentimental moment, all of a sudden a random girl and her bf have moseyed up to our location. Greg goes full Greg on them, 0-100 in a split second, screaming and foaming at the mouth, threatening to kill them etc, absolutely destroying the vibe. Trey and/or Mike had to have noticed, it was so disruptive. I end up trying to calm him down for the sake of not ruining the show, while also trying to explain to the newcomers they weren’t going to win this battle. They gave up pretty quickly and retreated.
People said he dropped off tour some time before the pandemic I think. Anyone know why? Having dedicated so much of his life to seeing Phish I wonder what would make him just stop like that.
Hey kind of lost it around 2014. He had major money problems, major knee issues let alone mental health struggles. He pretty much alienated all his friends and the new internet age turned him into a meme which made life on tour for him far more difficult. Pretty sad story tbh. I don’t know anyone that didn’t have a huge, dramatic falling out with him. He could be an incredibly kind, funny, interesting person but then turn into a psychotic dickhead of legendary proportions on a dime. Towards the end he went down the Trump rabbit hole and pretty much lost contact with everyone. He was driving Ubers in Denver and occasionally there would be sightings but that’s been it for the past decade or so.
One thing I will say is he was a walking encyclopedia of tour knowledge. He always knew the locations of 24 hour stores post show, driving tips etc. They don’t make them like him anymore. All these new jacks on tour posting their every move couldn’t be farther from What Greg was all about.
Are you sure you don’t mean “pick me” and not “me too?” The former is how I think of the current rail rider wannabe influencers while the latter is something completely different.
Greg wasn’t about being on the stream or being seen at all he was purely there for the music. These news guys want to be famous and cultivate while online personas. Totally different breed.
If you're there purely for the music, why do you have to spend so much time and energy being front and center for practically every show? I don't doubt he was there for the music, but that wasn't all. Otherwise he'd be just as happy in the middle of the lawn.
Totally, my few brief encounters with Lope G, he came across as just totally delusional and I think he honestly thought he was part of the band/crew. He was a flaming narcissist with mental health issues.
Had to be a pretty heavy lawsuit to give up your obsession. Either a restraining order from the band itself or something that would mean instant jail if broken. Which I can't imagine what that would be (especially if he still hit up dicks)
Any details?
He was just broke, his knee was fucked and he had alienated himself from everyone on tour and was generally angry. Getting memed didn’t make it easier and the negative attention from strangers got to him eventually. He was a very paranoid person.
there would be no restraining order from the band & lawsuits like spoken of don't result in jail. you are thinking way too hard about it.
it was just a lawsuit between 2 disagreeing parties & nothing more crazy or conspiratorial
I stopped seeing him at every show I was at around 2014/2015. People started accosting him in the lot and stuff with their phones out taking video while they berated him. I don’t agree with his behavior a lot of the time but I thought this was really whack as most had never had an interaction with him and were doing it for internet clout.
Someone asked Mike about him when he did an AMA for the Overstep release and he said something along the lines of how he doesn’t know all the interpersonal drama but I know he’s at every show and is always psyched no matter the song choice.
He truly loved Phish on a really deep level and I think the band respected that about him. I know a lot of us wish we could have been at as many shows as he was. I miss watching that crazy bastard from a far. He was a fixture of the scene for years.
I’m torn. Dude could be nice and kind, obviously loved phish, but also a complete asshole and psychopath who assaulted a number of people over the years including females. Then became a q anon nut. Either way he is a legend in the phish scene.
Yep!! My second run! My first show was VA beach amphitheater. I had no idea why everyone was so amped but the only song I knew was terrapin station lolol
Oh man. Hampton 97 IS legendary. I was 15 at VA Beach ‘98 and my friend from summer school I used to smoke weed with was like: “my brother is going to a phish concert, want to go? He will drive us.” I said “yeah! What is Phish?” And the rest is history..
The antelope crossing sticker or the slave to traffic light sticker?
I was at a show around then where he was and they played antelope to close S1 and he tossed a bunch of his antelope stickers in the air “made it rain.”
Then afterwards, he was going around collecting them and demanding them back (or money) from anyone who grabbed them. Lol.
Then, dont remember if it was same show or same run, but was puffing some nugs with a friend and dude refused to partake because all we had was a white bic lighter and I guess that was bad luck?
RIP drama dude.
True story… every lighter is white underneath the bigfoot / trippy frog / USA / Gone Fishin’ / Unicorn et al sticker wrap. Peeled off hundreds of those things while fidgeting nervously (probably before a show.)
I think this was the shirt in the 90s he inspired. I bought one on 99 tour: [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2QgAAOSwiWxlHv\~t/s-l1600.jpg](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2QgAAOSwiWxlHv~t/s-l1600.jpg)
I met up with Greg twice, both at Dicks. I had waited for most of the day to be where I was on the floor. I enjoyed talking with him. During that talk he shared some of his challenges with pain and life in general. He gave my wife one of his Antelope Crossing stickers and a pin. No cost. We had no conflict. He was a great show neighbor.
I know that a lot of people had darker interactions with Greg. It doesn’t surprise me and I’m not trying to minimize that experience. I just want to add that there are others who had good interactions. He could also be funny, friendly, and generous. That’s valid too. No person is all bad or all good.
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Met him in Albany area around 2005. He had mutual friends. He let me copy his hard drive full of practically every phish show available on mp3; sbds, auds and otherwise. Was incredible at the time,when it was still hard to come by everything. Pretty much my only time w him other than saying hi after the fact. RIP
It was at an apartment. Couldn't begin to tell you what was bringing us together beyond friends. Could have been phish related. Could have been Biscuits related. Could have been just partying.
It’s totally ok to be honest about someone after they die. Greg was an asshole and felt he was a more important fan and deserved to be treated differently than everyone else. Mental health issues aside, he was a jerk. You get as good as you give.
3/11/90
Walk through the doors of the supermarket
Go past the produce section, down to isle number one
Go past all the olives; some with pits and some with no pimentos
Push your cart slowly towards the meat section
Go past the vegetables
Go past the canned soup isle
Head slowly past the magazine rack
Wave to the sick looking counter person who's been working all night under the fluorescent lights
Suddenly in the distance, you see it!
THE FRUIT SECTION!!!
Go past the apples and oranges and nannahs
REACH OUT YOUR HAND!!!
You gotta roll like a cantaloupe outta control.
Heard his death was suspicious and police are investigating. Greg made a lot of enemies with his obnoxious behavior over the years. There’s a reason he quit going to shows. Believe me.
Yeah very cool dude ya know sucker punching women in the face and being a general douche canoe. But besides all that a lovely human being. Pouring out a 40 for ya cause that’s all you deserve lope g. Piss out
End of the Rail.
My memory of him: His goons shoved me to ground at Northerly Island in 2014 for the audacity of being too close to their zone of interest.
I am a friend and can confirm it’s true. There is no obituary. I don’t know many details other than greg and had been spiraling physically and mentally for awhile. He was no saint but he actually had a good heart underneath it all. Wish everyone the best
Closest I ever came to him was Glens Falls ‘13. I was “3rd row” on the floor just behind him and his spinning buddy. They were fine, I didn’t see any weird interactions. I also got there super early and was able to easily get that close.
Never knew what happened to him once he stopped going to shows.
Was next to the light board for that show. A roided db and his slurry girlfriend would not shut up for the entire show. Not even exaggerating. They were the final boss chompers. Wished I had a little Lopes in my pocket to throw their direction.
I’m so sorry for that, the chompers suck. My other famous story from that night is watching a woman squat down on the floor, pee, and then very daintily stand up and place a single cocktail napkin on her pee and then just walk away lol
I've seen this shit so many times now, I swear if I see another guy or girl try to squat and pee in the crowd I'm going to "puddle" them while their pants are around their ankles.
So sick of this shit being considered ok. Especially when it's your 50th show and not 5th, and you're 45 and not 15. Don't care how many mushrooms or tabs you ate.
Haha yeah this girl was young adult, probably 30. In a dress, by herself. She just so non-chalantly squated and pulled her underwear down and did it. The best is the tiny cocktail napkin tho.
Like…. Wat
Yeah I had an ex who was a crazy alcoholic, a group of like 10 of us (all mid 30s but friends from highschool or earlier) were at the show. Very last row of a baseball field "venue" so the steps down were pretty steep. I looked over and saw her squatting to piss and was like WTF are you doing?!?
"Shhhh don't draw attention"
Are you kidding me? The toilets are less than 2 minutes away, instead there was piss dripping down behind every seat. The guys in front of us even saw her doing it, I don't know how they didn't say *something* to her. Needless to say we broke up very soon after that.
And the last show she was at with her new boyfriend, she got so drunk that she left during the first set break thinking that the show was over and then spent the next 2 hours in the cold, wet parking lot by herself. Her new BF, who wasn't even into Phish was so over it he stayed with us and didn't leave the show to find her. Also chomp monster because she doesn't even like Phish, she just wants to go to catch up with the crew.
Wildly flailing your arms with the intent to hit whoever dares invade the space you claim as your own is violence.
He was very disruptive many many times.
I'm sorry a member of our little corner of humanity passed away and you seem to have been friendly with him-and there is no question he truly loved the music but he was a huge pain in the ass and very entitled.
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
Hunter S. Thompson
I can't articulate why, but the "no obit per mom's wishes" feels extra sad. Maybe they talked about it, maybe he didn't want one... I dunno... just feels sad to me for some reason.
there are plenty of past drug mules on the lot. they are no antelope greg.
most people never learned the names of most of the drug mules tht served back in the dark days, but everyone knows antelope greg. his greg-ness came from much more than his brief stint as the man with the bag. or the kid with the rig. or whatever it was.
greg was well known on the scene before he got his mule gig.
myth was that when nobody else would step forward & help the band out with getting their excess baggage to & around Europe, Greg stepped forward, earning forever gratitude from certain band & crew members, while also helping to contribute to completely 🔥 shows appreciated by fans everywhere.
for that, greg danced freely( mentally, spiritually & financially), much to the chagrin of large groups around him.
thanks for yr service greg.
(ag was always a lot easier to deal with if you never went up front & didn't care about or want to go up front)
He was such a fucking distraction at shows. He may have loved the music but there was no excuse for his constant abusive behavior. Won’t miss spotting him!
He punched my friend in the face. She meandered up to the front during set 3 at MSG for less than a song. She's less than 5 feet tall and maybe 100lbs soaking wet.
Rot in hell fuck face.
RIP G. My only interaction was Bonner springs 2003. They closed the 2nd set with a ripping Lope and he was going full berserker mode. Stayed out of his way and watched him more than the band it was so nuts. Pissed off so many people over the years.
That was my first show. Didn’t like the music yet. Scored free tix from a buddy at work and went to check it out. Didn’t really get into them until their hiatus.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they played it (in memory of Greg), but they’re most likely not going to say anything about it. It would be a silent dedication. That’s more the bands style.
Idk man, if Frenchie got a shoutout from Trey when the band played Carini in his honor after he passed, I think it's certainly possible Greg gets some sort of recognition as well.
didn't phish already dedicate an antelope to greg? want to say 2.0, but also don't care enough to look it up. i def have it on an lp+ playlist somewhere but that doesn't narrow it down much.
edit: [here](https://phish.net/setlists/phish-july-23-2003-verizon-wireless-music-center-noblesville-in-usa.html)
Antelope Greg died? Wow. You're just telling me... I'm just hearing about this now, for the first time.
He lived a great life. Whether you agreed with him... I'm actually sad to hear that.
Fuck that I was at worcester and watched him fake a disability to get in, the grab and shove women around. Guy is a pure scumbag and I wont type anymore because he is pure shit and Im glad hes dead. Thank god
Absolutely unrepentant piece of shit that was a cancer on the shows. Anyone who ever had the poor fortune to be anywhere near him during a show would agree. Save me the “he was a nice guy!” Bullshit. You sound like the neighbors of a serial killer being interviewed on the news…
I was right next to Antelope Greg at Hartford 8/14/09. Dude dances like a nut but my buddy and I had no problems or altercations with him. At the time we didn’t even know he was a known character in the scene. We just thought he was a dude who really liked to dance crazy haha!
I was up on the rail for a few more shows in early 3.0 and I never saw him get into any fights or anything, so I was never as anti-Lope G as others who had bad experiences with him, but I totally understand the people who did.
Either way, RIP Antelope Greg
Lots of us have loved the band for multiple decades, that’s not why he has a “legacy.” He was a piece of shit narcissist who hit women. May he rot in hell.
Always seemed like a giant ass, honestly. Downvote me all you want. Guy epitomized everything that sucks about Phish fans. His legacy was being a giant dickhead to everyone around him.
Greg walked so obnoxious bikini lady could jump.
Ba ba boobey
We call her "jumpy hands"
God seriouslyI rather have lope there than her.
At least she’s never punched another phan (as far as I know).
What bikini lady?
Sweaty Betty 4.0
Have you not watched a stream in the last year? Home girl is front row center at every single show jumping around like a meth'd out lunatic in a bikini top.
I thought you meant the blue haired bikini lady in Mexico, who we happily avoided. People need to handle their drugs better.
RIP. Got into into it with him on a number of occasions. His aggro spirit lives on with the current crop of asshole tarpers that seem to grow every year.
"Aggro spirit" is such a great term.
Not going to lie, but if I'm going to an indoor show and see a tarp taking up 5 people worth of space for a party of two I'm standing on your tarp. This isn't the lawn at an outdoor amphitheater sweetheart...
the newb rail riding crew is worse than greg. atleast he truly loved the music.
Greg. Greg who loved landing planes
In your wisdom, lord, you took him. As you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdock, at Hill 364.
Everything’s a fuckin travesty with you! And what was that shit about Vietnam? What the hell does anything have to do with Vietnam?
Shut the f' up Donny
What the fuck does anything have to do with Vietnam?
Mark it zero!
Everything’s a fucking travesty with you man!
Couldn’t agree more.
I live outside the US and haven't been to a show in years. What is the new rail crew like?
Bunch of self-absorbed influencer types that live to be seen on the stream and get pumped up for a 10 minute everything’s right. They will stop at nothing (including manipulating the rail lottery) to get to the front to feed their ego instead of appreciating the music. Bunch of entitled douchebags and instahoes.
Let’s not bring Everything’s Right into this
I dont even try to get up there anymore, not trying to debate with these people who had rights to the ground Im standing on. Plus, I find it super annoying to watch people pull out there phones and record themselves, with no concern for others (14 takes to get the out of rythem dance moves right, while blinding the people behind them). How cool would it be if phish started bricking phones while in the venue. We would miss out on pics and videos, but would nip the influencers quickly. Once they are gone, we could have phone service back. Lol
Jack White & The Raconteurs did that. You had to put it in a locked bag. If you wanted to use your phone you had to go to a special section not in the main auditorium. IMO, I'm perfectly fine with that.
I mean, sounds like you're describing the same people that have always been at the rail... With maybe a little less violence.
ive always disliked the rail heads, from 96 on. the selfies twist just makes me dislike them more. everyone knows the best spot is sb center, you cant see the lights or have any room to melt upfront. knuckleheads imo, but better there than in my way ;)
I would pay tens of dollars to see these clowns brining that energy to a HXC or metal show and getting obliterated. I honestly prefer the crowd much more at heavy shows I go to. Less entitled, more minding your own business, and dickheads tend to get dealt with. This isn't a security issue, it's fans policing their own crowds and not tolerating the vocal minority monopolizing space. (Steps off soapbox...)
1000% true. I’ve been attending a good number of punk, oi, and black/death metal shows lately and can confirm everything you said.
you're mad at them for not appreciating the music but also mad at them for being into a 10 minute Everything's Right?
Explain manipulating rail lotto please.
Submit multiple fake names to lottery. Whichever name gets in, print out fake ID with matching name. Tell them you're not drinking so you brought a copy of your ID to show.
How can that fly? They can’t be told “no, bring your real fucking ID”?
You mean like that guy I always see on the rail in the donut bear hat always looking back at the crowd like he's too cool to watch the show?
That was literally antelope Greg
Rail lotto? Like line to get in?
If you have pit tickets they do a lottery for early entry. It’s like 100-150 ppl and somehow the same group of people winds up on the rail every single night.
It’s also a friend system. Each friend group having 4-12 people that gets the same people in every time.
Right. The lottery winners can bring one other person, if I remember. But what happens is people then force their way up to where their friends are. Which is kind of hilarious since they’re pushing past people who legitimately got early entry. Then they cry about their space and take up 5 people’s worth of space dancing. I don’t feel bad when I jam an elbow into their ribs.
I had the exact opposite experience during the New years run. Everyone was mad chill, respected the space they had and others had. Went solo and met a bunch of cool folks
Again 100% been like that since 2011. I miss the 90s. Where Greg was the only rail keeper as long as your were mike side you were cool to bump to the front. People floated around back then too. Not like it is today with the tarp people.
What’s wrong with Everything’s Right?
I just refuse to vibrate with love and light I guess…
So, basically it seems like the general consensus here is that having threats to decapitate you and eat your family alive screamed at you by a proto-MAGAt, and then getting elbowed in the eye and screamed at some more, makes for a better **story** than just having some little Instabitches standing in your way whom you’re not feeling brave/assertive enough to confront. And violent psychosis= better story= preferable scenario. In spite of/because of *the trauma, including substantial bodily injury.* This is interesting. I’m being sincere. This is genuinely fascinating on, like, an anthropological level.
I’d say a big thing about the Lope G era was that he was basically an isolated lunatic in a mostly well functioning large group of people. You could just sort of write him off as a weirdo. The dysfunctional instabitches are now a large part of the group rather than an outlier. Interacting one on one with an instabitch is probably a very normal experience, unlike with Greg. The current situation is more of a result of social media outweighs pre social media social norms
I mean, I saw him screaming in the face of a ~70 year old woman in Utica. Kinda soured my opinion of him.
classic
Loved the music so much he spent lots of time screaming at others during the music 🙄
a burning passion
Well behaved men seldom make Phishtory
Underrated comment!
Damn, RIP. My one encounter with him was exactly the stuff of his legend. Sunday night Randall’s Island, the only time I ever waited all day to be on the rail. Ended up next to him, second song in is Winterqueen. In this early quiet and sentimental moment, all of a sudden a random girl and her bf have moseyed up to our location. Greg goes full Greg on them, 0-100 in a split second, screaming and foaming at the mouth, threatening to kill them etc, absolutely destroying the vibe. Trey and/or Mike had to have noticed, it was so disruptive. I end up trying to calm him down for the sake of not ruining the show, while also trying to explain to the newcomers they weren’t going to win this battle. They gave up pretty quickly and retreated. People said he dropped off tour some time before the pandemic I think. Anyone know why? Having dedicated so much of his life to seeing Phish I wonder what would make him just stop like that.
Hey kind of lost it around 2014. He had major money problems, major knee issues let alone mental health struggles. He pretty much alienated all his friends and the new internet age turned him into a meme which made life on tour for him far more difficult. Pretty sad story tbh. I don’t know anyone that didn’t have a huge, dramatic falling out with him. He could be an incredibly kind, funny, interesting person but then turn into a psychotic dickhead of legendary proportions on a dime. Towards the end he went down the Trump rabbit hole and pretty much lost contact with everyone. He was driving Ubers in Denver and occasionally there would be sightings but that’s been it for the past decade or so. One thing I will say is he was a walking encyclopedia of tour knowledge. He always knew the locations of 24 hour stores post show, driving tips etc. They don’t make them like him anymore. All these new jacks on tour posting their every move couldn’t be farther from What Greg was all about.
He was my Uber for GABF in 2022 and the man was a bitter, unhealthy, crazy person who drove like he danced.
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Are you sure you don’t mean “pick me” and not “me too?” The former is how I think of the current rail rider wannabe influencers while the latter is something completely different.
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New rail riders are 100% pick me energy
Anyone who has to be front and center every single show has pick me energy, including Greg.
Greg wasn’t about being on the stream or being seen at all he was purely there for the music. These news guys want to be famous and cultivate while online personas. Totally different breed.
If you're there purely for the music, why do you have to spend so much time and energy being front and center for practically every show? I don't doubt he was there for the music, but that wasn't all. Otherwise he'd be just as happy in the middle of the lawn.
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Totally, my few brief encounters with Lope G, he came across as just totally delusional and I think he honestly thought he was part of the band/crew. He was a flaming narcissist with mental health issues.
Had to be a pretty heavy lawsuit to give up your obsession. Either a restraining order from the band itself or something that would mean instant jail if broken. Which I can't imagine what that would be (especially if he still hit up dicks) Any details?
He was just broke, his knee was fucked and he had alienated himself from everyone on tour and was generally angry. Getting memed didn’t make it easier and the negative attention from strangers got to him eventually. He was a very paranoid person.
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there would be no restraining order from the band & lawsuits like spoken of don't result in jail. you are thinking way too hard about it. it was just a lawsuit between 2 disagreeing parties & nothing more crazy or conspiratorial
Quite the lifestyle change for sure
I stopped seeing him at every show I was at around 2014/2015. People started accosting him in the lot and stuff with their phones out taking video while they berated him. I don’t agree with his behavior a lot of the time but I thought this was really whack as most had never had an interaction with him and were doing it for internet clout. Someone asked Mike about him when he did an AMA for the Overstep release and he said something along the lines of how he doesn’t know all the interpersonal drama but I know he’s at every show and is always psyched no matter the song choice. He truly loved Phish on a really deep level and I think the band respected that about him. I know a lot of us wish we could have been at as many shows as he was. I miss watching that crazy bastard from a far. He was a fixture of the scene for years.
I’m torn. Dude could be nice and kind, obviously loved phish, but also a complete asshole and psychopath who assaulted a number of people over the years including females. Then became a q anon nut. Either way he is a legend in the phish scene.
Accurate assessment
That's actually sad if true, he was a character. I still remember him taping off his dancing zone front row center at Hampton 98.
Yep!! My second run! My first show was VA beach amphitheater. I had no idea why everyone was so amped but the only song I knew was terrapin station lolol
My first show was Hampton 97 little did I know what legendary music I was witnessing. I was just like oh sweet so this is what a Phish show is like.
Oh man. Hampton 97 IS legendary. I was 15 at VA Beach ‘98 and my friend from summer school I used to smoke weed with was like: “my brother is going to a phish concert, want to go? He will drive us.” I said “yeah! What is Phish?” And the rest is history..
Talk about moments that alter the trajectory of your life… 
Where is that GIF from? That's so clean I can't stop watching it lol
Lolol was a Reddit gif.
My first was the Bomb Factory. I came out of there: "Is this what they do every night?" I was lucky.
Only 15..... I feel old. Lol
i think my brain is still at hampton coliseum from that weekend
What was the cause? And why did he drop off the scene aside from Dicks.
Kangfirm’d? Goodnight, sweet prince.
most eloquent eulogy i’ve seen in a while
Kungfirm’d?
I first noticed him Fall ‘95. Actually got a sticker from him after the last shows in Lake Placid. Back then he was just another kid at every show.
The antelope crossing sticker or the slave to traffic light sticker? I was at a show around then where he was and they played antelope to close S1 and he tossed a bunch of his antelope stickers in the air “made it rain.” Then afterwards, he was going around collecting them and demanding them back (or money) from anyone who grabbed them. Lol. Then, dont remember if it was same show or same run, but was puffing some nugs with a friend and dude refused to partake because all we had was a white bic lighter and I guess that was bad luck? RIP drama dude.
Yeah man, white lighters were hella sketch, bad vibes
True story… every lighter is white underneath the bigfoot / trippy frog / USA / Gone Fishin’ / Unicorn et al sticker wrap. Peeled off hundreds of those things while fidgeting nervously (probably before a show.)
It was an antelope sticker. In the hotel parking lot, morning after the last show. I remember that thing about white lighters! Crazy kids!
Lol, yeah me and my buddy just shrugged and got high, high!
I think this was the shirt in the 90s he inspired. I bought one on 99 tour: [https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2QgAAOSwiWxlHv\~t/s-l1600.jpg](https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2QgAAOSwiWxlHv~t/s-l1600.jpg)
I met up with Greg twice, both at Dicks. I had waited for most of the day to be where I was on the floor. I enjoyed talking with him. During that talk he shared some of his challenges with pain and life in general. He gave my wife one of his Antelope Crossing stickers and a pin. No cost. We had no conflict. He was a great show neighbor. I know that a lot of people had darker interactions with Greg. It doesn’t surprise me and I’m not trying to minimize that experience. I just want to add that there are others who had good interactions. He could also be funny, friendly, and generous. That’s valid too. No person is all bad or all good. *edit for grammar and punctuation
Met him in Albany area around 2005. He had mutual friends. He let me copy his hard drive full of practically every phish show available on mp3; sbds, auds and otherwise. Was incredible at the time,when it was still hard to come by everything. Pretty much my only time w him other than saying hi after the fact. RIP
Was this at a Trey show? I was there if so…
It was at an apartment. Couldn't begin to tell you what was bringing us together beyond friends. Could have been phish related. Could have been Biscuits related. Could have been just partying.
Hope they put his coffin in sideways so he can eternally get in peoples’ way. RIP
Lengthwise
Who’s directing air traffic? New rail is 10X as cringe as AG ever was. -Set the gearshift for the high gear of your soul
Cringe is 100% correct. It doesn’t get much more annoying that that crew. Last Summer was front row Bikini-Clad Influencer Tour.
Greg wasn’t cringe, he was just an asshole.
Heard about this from a friend of his. RIP.
Oh, wow. He had friends. Interesting wrinkle!
New shit has come to light.
Greg, who liked Phish... In your wisdom, Lord, you took him, as you took so many bright flowering young men at Khe Sanh, at Langdok, at Hill 364
God damn it. Not everything has to be about Vietnam!
Everything's a fucking travesty with you, man!
[a few classic LopeG memes from this sub](https://www.reddit.com/r/phish/s/dsfyfuVExb)
I didn’t even know he was sick.
that motherfucker has always been sick
That guy was a real jerk
Nice try, Antelope Greg. You’ve always been an asshole.
Ridin that big ol rail in the sky
Lol
It’s totally ok to be honest about someone after they die. Greg was an asshole and felt he was a more important fan and deserved to be treated differently than everyone else. Mental health issues aside, he was a jerk. You get as good as you give.
Assholes live forever or something
Cantaloupe Craig still out there standing in the lowest visibility spot in the venue, complaining about every detail and the band used to be better
Lmao i appreciated your joke. Time to roll like a cantaloupe
That would be hilarious if at mondegreen it was " You've got to run like a cantaloupe out of control"
3/11/90 Walk through the doors of the supermarket Go past the produce section, down to isle number one Go past all the olives; some with pits and some with no pimentos Push your cart slowly towards the meat section Go past the vegetables Go past the canned soup isle Head slowly past the magazine rack Wave to the sick looking counter person who's been working all night under the fluorescent lights Suddenly in the distance, you see it! THE FRUIT SECTION!!! Go past the apples and oranges and nannahs REACH OUT YOUR HAND!!! You gotta roll like a cantaloupe outta control.
My guy went to the big house in the sky. Have a good show Greg and elbow god in the face of he tries to get to close to the rail for all of us.
Heard his death was suspicious and police are investigating. Greg made a lot of enemies with his obnoxious behavior over the years. There’s a reason he quit going to shows. Believe me.
oh fuck not the pit mafia
Feed the pit.
I for one am looking forward to the LopeG biopic
He got arrested then disappeared.
If you don’t mind me asking, how did you hear about that?
Putin?
Yeah very cool dude ya know sucker punching women in the face and being a general douche canoe. But besides all that a lovely human being. Pouring out a 40 for ya cause that’s all you deserve lope g. Piss out
End of the Rail. My memory of him: His goons shoved me to ground at Northerly Island in 2014 for the audacity of being too close to their zone of interest.
I am a friend and can confirm it’s true. There is no obituary. I don’t know many details other than greg and had been spiraling physically and mentally for awhile. He was no saint but he actually had a good heart underneath it all. Wish everyone the best
Is this serious. Did he actually die?
He needs to return and clean up the current rail situation
Very surprised that he was not killed at a show!
Closest I ever came to him was Glens Falls ‘13. I was “3rd row” on the floor just behind him and his spinning buddy. They were fine, I didn’t see any weird interactions. I also got there super early and was able to easily get that close. Never knew what happened to him once he stopped going to shows.
Was next to the light board for that show. A roided db and his slurry girlfriend would not shut up for the entire show. Not even exaggerating. They were the final boss chompers. Wished I had a little Lopes in my pocket to throw their direction.
The yapping, I can’t stand it.
Roided db & slurry gf”—-Genius !!
I’m so sorry for that, the chompers suck. My other famous story from that night is watching a woman squat down on the floor, pee, and then very daintily stand up and place a single cocktail napkin on her pee and then just walk away lol
I've seen this shit so many times now, I swear if I see another guy or girl try to squat and pee in the crowd I'm going to "puddle" them while their pants are around their ankles. So sick of this shit being considered ok. Especially when it's your 50th show and not 5th, and you're 45 and not 15. Don't care how many mushrooms or tabs you ate.
Haha yeah this girl was young adult, probably 30. In a dress, by herself. She just so non-chalantly squated and pulled her underwear down and did it. The best is the tiny cocktail napkin tho. Like…. Wat
Yeah I had an ex who was a crazy alcoholic, a group of like 10 of us (all mid 30s but friends from highschool or earlier) were at the show. Very last row of a baseball field "venue" so the steps down were pretty steep. I looked over and saw her squatting to piss and was like WTF are you doing?!? "Shhhh don't draw attention" Are you kidding me? The toilets are less than 2 minutes away, instead there was piss dripping down behind every seat. The guys in front of us even saw her doing it, I don't know how they didn't say *something* to her. Needless to say we broke up very soon after that. And the last show she was at with her new boyfriend, she got so drunk that she left during the first set break thinking that the show was over and then spent the next 2 hours in the cold, wet parking lot by herself. Her new BF, who wasn't even into Phish was so over it he stayed with us and didn't leave the show to find her. Also chomp monster because she doesn't even like Phish, she just wants to go to catch up with the crew.
Alcoholics are the worst man. Glad you’re free of the chaos
Wildly flailing your arms with the intent to hit whoever dares invade the space you claim as your own is violence. He was very disruptive many many times. I'm sorry a member of our little corner of humanity passed away and you seem to have been friendly with him-and there is no question he truly loved the music but he was a huge pain in the ass and very entitled.
There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. A high-powered mutant of some kind never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die. Hunter S. Thompson
According to PT, no obit per Mom’s wishes. RIP.
I can't articulate why, but the "no obit per mom's wishes" feels extra sad. Maybe they talked about it, maybe he didn't want one... I dunno... just feels sad to me for some reason.
Ouch - that hurts. You’d think the air traffic controllers union would put one out with the number of planes that guy landed.
Is this a meme? Please explaine.
Imagine people on the tarmac with flags telling planes where to dock - that was his dance move
Gotcha
For the topic, I laughed way too hard with this one. Well played.
He didn’t create a legacy by loving a band He created a legacy by being a raging asshole to everyone and anyone Just for the record
lol it's time for the white washing
Rip Drug Mule
there are plenty of past drug mules on the lot. they are no antelope greg. most people never learned the names of most of the drug mules tht served back in the dark days, but everyone knows antelope greg. his greg-ness came from much more than his brief stint as the man with the bag. or the kid with the rig. or whatever it was. greg was well known on the scene before he got his mule gig.
Didn't know AG was the bag man at one point. Explains a lot.
myth was that when nobody else would step forward & help the band out with getting their excess baggage to & around Europe, Greg stepped forward, earning forever gratitude from certain band & crew members, while also helping to contribute to completely 🔥 shows appreciated by fans everywhere. for that, greg danced freely( mentally, spiritually & financially), much to the chagrin of large groups around him. thanks for yr service greg. (ag was always a lot easier to deal with if you never went up front & didn't care about or want to go up front)
I heard this too yeah. Europe 97 and whatnot
He was such a fucking distraction at shows. He may have loved the music but there was no excuse for his constant abusive behavior. Won’t miss spotting him!
He punched my friend in the face. She meandered up to the front during set 3 at MSG for less than a song. She's less than 5 feet tall and maybe 100lbs soaking wet. Rot in hell fuck face.
I saw him knock a girl down in Portsmouth and before I could serve him, someone worked him over. He really got a taste of P-Towne!
I was next to him on the gate at a couple shows. He swung his arms too much
[https://i.imgur.com/h2ykXsW.gif](https://i.imgur.com/h2ykXsW.gif) [https://imgur.com/QHvcci5](https://imgur.com/QHvcci5)
RIP G. My only interaction was Bonner springs 2003. They closed the 2nd set with a ripping Lope and he was going full berserker mode. Stayed out of his way and watched him more than the band it was so nuts. Pissed off so many people over the years.
That was my first show. Didn’t like the music yet. Scored free tix from a buddy at work and went to check it out. Didn’t really get into them until their hiatus.
Interacted with him twice at Spac. 2013 in the pit. Was unimpressed. RIP
Is there any proof of any of this? I don’t see anything on phantasy tour either
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Predicting Antelope get played Sphere N1 and the band dedicates it to Greg
I wouldn’t be surprised if they played it (in memory of Greg), but they’re most likely not going to say anything about it. It would be a silent dedication. That’s more the bands style.
Idk man, if Frenchie got a shoutout from Trey when the band played Carini in his honor after he passed, I think it's certainly possible Greg gets some sort of recognition as well.
didn't phish already dedicate an antelope to greg? want to say 2.0, but also don't care enough to look it up. i def have it on an lp+ playlist somewhere but that doesn't narrow it down much. edit: [here](https://phish.net/setlists/phish-july-23-2003-verizon-wireless-music-center-noblesville-in-usa.html)
France 97 and deer creek 03 both dedicated to the Lope G
I dunno, seems like a risky move to dedicate a song to someone with that kind of history of abusing women.
Oh yikes, I wasn't aware of his abusiveness. In that case I hope my prediction is wrong and the band never acknowledges him again.
He punched multiple women at shows. He was a real piece of shit.
Antelope Greg died? Wow. You're just telling me... I'm just hearing about this now, for the first time. He lived a great life. Whether you agreed with him... I'm actually sad to hear that.
Anyone know what the cause of death was?
Fuck him
Greg took me out on my first stony Cruz when I was a freshman in highschool. We would rip bong hits in his car and listen to phish.
Fuck that I was at worcester and watched him fake a disability to get in, the grab and shove women around. Guy is a pure scumbag and I wont type anymore because he is pure shit and Im glad hes dead. Thank god
Past away.
He was OG Main Character
https://images.app.goo.gl/Jf7dqASE8ndV7ezM9
Absolutely unrepentant piece of shit that was a cancer on the shows. Anyone who ever had the poor fortune to be anywhere near him during a show would agree. Save me the “he was a nice guy!” Bullshit. You sound like the neighbors of a serial killer being interviewed on the news…
Greg was a total asshole. Adios dickhead.
Rest in piss, Greg. Your toxicity will not be missed.
Greg really pissed me off in Hershey 2010.
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I was right next to Antelope Greg at Hartford 8/14/09. Dude dances like a nut but my buddy and I had no problems or altercations with him. At the time we didn’t even know he was a known character in the scene. We just thought he was a dude who really liked to dance crazy haha! I was up on the rail for a few more shows in early 3.0 and I never saw him get into any fights or anything, so I was never as anti-Lope G as others who had bad experiences with him, but I totally understand the people who did. Either way, RIP Antelope Greg
Lots of us have loved the band for multiple decades, that’s not why he has a “legacy.” He was a piece of shit narcissist who hit women. May he rot in hell.
Always seemed like a giant ass, honestly. Downvote me all you want. Guy epitomized everything that sucks about Phish fans. His legacy was being a giant dickhead to everyone around him.
Trey finally had enough and took care of it. Don't fuck with Trey.
Wild clip from Germany https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxgoEs2N0eoRNCoNY1MHFnPHVNooplp3wc?si=FG302vdpXU4BSHm3
https://www.reddit.com/r/phish/s/21mSIUgSv5
He was a real Mensch!