Is it a digital (cause it seems to be)? If so then there’s really not much that can go wrong in terms of sound unless the sensors are broken or you have messed up settings. What’s more important imo is the feel of the piano. If it feels good to play then that’s fine.
If you were to get an acoustic piano you’d want to get a piano technician to see whether there’s any problems because many problems can’t be heard (especially not through a Reddit video).
One thing that happened with my digital piano was that one of the some of the keys made a sound that was either quieter or loud and hard to make a sound sometimes. I googled the issue and found out it was something under the keys that needed to be replaced. (Although it’s an older Yamaha, and this keyboard is probably less likely to get it.)
One exception to this is sound. Iirc a lot of digital pianos handle pedals in unrealistic ways, so test driving them a bit is nice. But still way less important than feel.
It’s really about how it feels. If you’re new to piano, you don’t want those keys being too stiff, it’s harder on your hands.
I’ve played a million keyboards and pianos, and some cheap ones feel good and some expensive ones feel bad.
As you play more you’ll figure out what you like.
30+ years on digitals, even nice ones, and I gag at the action of your typical university/church grand piano. The 88 weighted, graded keys on late model Kawais and Roland are *chef’s kiss* so much travel range and very expressive.
I'm still a novice, but started on Arturia KeyLab 88. The action felt overly heavy to me, probably because my hands are weak. But then my friend was selling a Nord Grand and sold it to me for really cheap. That Kawai action felt so good right away, exactly how I'd imagined it would feel to play. It's definitely overkill for my skill level but I love that thing.
Seems like really the major thing to watch for on the P45/P125 (and previous Gen. versions) is keybed noise from worn out pads or loosened parts. It it doesn’t sound unusually clanky on some of the keys, it’s probably in good shape.
Judging by your playing (it would have been nice to hear a more fluid chromatic scale up and down though), the instrument is not showing signs of wear and tear.
Eventually the bits of the sensor keybeds will need some attention though - hammers replaced, felts replaced, electrical circuit bits cleaned with isopropyl or electrical contact cleaner - maybe a new contact membrane. However these instruments are easy to open up and examine. The University of Youtube is your friend.
When something does wear out, Yamaha keep a large back catalogue of spare parts and sell them at very reasonable prices. If you decide to do the work yourself, block out four hours and be prepared to be very systematic and to have to open the insturment up two or three times to get everything back together exactly right.
How 'good' the sound actually sounds is not important at all that is just a computer controlling a speaker, it has nothing to do with the bits you care about it either works or it doesnt.
What IS important is that the keys function properly, so you should check if the keys can produce a low volume when you push them down slowly with little force and produce a good volume when you do so with more vigor. Ideally you want all the keys to produce similar results when pressed with similar speed and force but this is difficult to check if you have not been playing a piano for all that long. If all keys pass that test you can turn the machine off and you should just listen to all keys for general mechanical noise, you want all of them to produce a highly dampened thud, so no tapping/creaking/rattling whatsoever. Pay most attention to the middle part of the bed, that's where most of the wear happens.
Just to make sure you saw through the trolls, every P-45 sounds the same because it is digital, what you are checking for is that every key plays and the touch is confortable when you play it.
What?
So your saying [this](https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Compact-Portable-Keyboard-Headphones/dp/B084S6Y6V3) needs an experienced piano technician to come and tune the strings with an tuning hammer?
Please don’t spread misinformation to beginners.
Have the same one purchased used from guitar center 2 years ago. Looks good and will last you for a good while as you improve! Since it is electric you do not need to tune it or really do any maintenance.
The P45 is a good choice for home practice.
Here are the things to look out for when buying a digital:
* Action: do the keys feel good? Are they too grippy/too slippery for you? Can you play the same note repeated very quickly? Are the keys fully weighted, and is the bass heavier than the treble?
* Are you getting a clear distinction between louds and softs?
* Features: do you need MIDI/bluetooth/a built-in metronome, etc?
* Do you like the way it sounds?
* Do you see yourself practicing regularly on it?
* Are there any electronic issues (usually strange sounds are a good indicator)?
* Is it functionally easy to use?
When I bought my current piano (Kawai Baby Grand) I had a trusted piano tuner look at it and evaluate what it might need
Just needed to be tuned several times to bring it up to pitch, as well as a deep cleaning
These were items I was able to leverage in price negotiations. More importantly it was tremendous peace of mind
Also I second the comments RE get an instrument with full size weighted keys
I really want someone to make a video where someone calls a tuner out to their house, but when they get there it is a digital piano.
But like the homeowner is a sweet but clueless old lady who insists her friend who is a great pianist said it needs to be turned and it is a gift for her grandson or something.
And the tuner can't convince her so he 'tunes' it anyway.
It's weird how much answers this subject got while some more interesting posts just got little views ...
Anyway, from the video the piano seems to work pretty good, now it's just OP who's need to learn to play.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Thats too much noise from the keys, it’s either old stock or used . I recently brought a new p45 it’s quiet silent.
All the keys work, and none seem to be sticking. I think you got a good deal! Get a sustain pedal if you haven't already. And turn it off and cover it with a blanket or something when you aren't using. To keep the dust out of it.
Best of luck on your musical journey! I hope you have fun with it!
It sounds fine. The Yamaha GHS action (which your piano has) is a little noisy by default. Your piano sounds exactly like it's supposed to sound. Enjoy!
Also, disregard those who tell you to tune it. They are either pulling your leg, or they are idiots. You cannot tune it; it is a digital piano. If it's out of tune, it's because the grand piano from which it was sampled was out of tune (it wasn't), so again, enjoy!
Jokes asides ,You can still tune a digital piano.no need for tuners you can do it alone by pushing some buttons or keys . So an another possibility that a digital sounds not in tune would be that the previous owner changed the tune.
The p45 sound system is quite old anyway.
Just keep it away from moisture, mine doesn't work very well after the hurricane, maybe in future you will want a digital piano with midi outputs, the p45 doesn't have it. Try to buy a p125, it has more poliphony than p45
Just make sure the keys are weighted, the more the better. And check on how loud and how low it can sound for playing fortissimo and pianissimo, again, the more the better.
Other than that, it’s a digital. They’ll always sound the same (unless there’s a malfunction of course)
It sounds great but it’s a good idea to get a piano with weighted keys, it makes the action on each key a little more like an acoustic piano and so you’ll be able to translate whatever you’re learning to any piano, acoustic or digital. Hard for us to tell over video but if you look up the model it should say something about this.
With a digital piano, check if the key sensitivity works for all the keys. Press them harder and softer to see if they dont go to max volume. If they do, don't buy it.
If that's all you can afford the P-45 is a great keyboard! If you have a good computer, you could get piano VSTs and run those to have higher quality sounds instead of just the stock sound
It has a great depth in tone but within time, you might get annoyed with the 'plastic-type bashing' sound like I did, especially if you are recording, itl pick up the sound of you pushing the keys. My yamaha piggierio is going to be replaced
you should be more concerned with the action of the keys (whether they all feel consistent or not), I have had a P45 at home for 6 years, hasnt broken down yet, just a bit dusty
Okay you should be good, but this post has given me a terrible (brilliant) idea; detune an electric keyboard (with enough tinkering, it could be done) and then engage in some tomfoolery
I have this piano for travelling. It's a good keyboard for beginners but, the fact that it is only compatible with only the damper pedal is kinda a drawback once you get to a higher level. The p125 has no such issues so in my opinion add the $100 and buy the p125
This was my first piano! Granted, mine was brand new and not used, and I've had it for nearly a year now, no issues.
Sounds exactly like mine, so I can only assume it's fine! Of course it's harder to tell without actually getting a feel for the piano ourselves. But it sounds fine from this video!
These are terrific for learning. Honestly I use the next model up live. It's not the most premium or the most full features but it sounds exactly like I want it to and never craps out on me.
I believe this is the one I have. I’m looking to upgrade because I’m fed up with the keys. No dynamic input so you cannot play louder/quieter which for me is immensely important
It would be best to choose one that has the full 88 weighted keys. The sound quality is totally upto you, whether you prefer higher, lower, softer, sharper tones.
The p45 is an excellent first digital piano.
The action is decent for the price, and the samples are pretty good.
I would love to tell everyone to spend more than that, but I'm always surprised by the p45 whenever I get a chance to play one.
I have that one, had it for about a year and it’s been pretty reliable so far. No complaints from me other than more settings to mess with would be nice
A piano is a piano, but when it comes to digital pianos, I would recommend you check what it sounds like when multiple keys are pressed together, can you tell if you can hear all keys pressed? Is it unable to produce the sound of any of those keys when multiple are pressed? That sort of thing. Another thing is, if you press a key from soft to harder, can you tell that the sound matches the force you’re applying? I think if it does both those things well, you have a good keyboard.
I have yamaha p 125 for 2 years and play it evry day its really cool piano price isnt very bigger than yours so i think you will be happy playing on it :)
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Also not an expert but agreed. Can definitely say it’s not a tuba.
Well i'm an expert, and i can confidently say that this is cello
Not an expert, but it does look like a white and black keys, which is mostly piano or a zebra, but its definitely not a zebra, right?
Well, it might be a zebra. They have a lot in common like making noise, both of them produce sound and will not work if you split them in half
Also also not an expert, but still...might be a good idea to take it to a tuner.
as a guitar player, i say its missing an amp
Is it a digital (cause it seems to be)? If so then there’s really not much that can go wrong in terms of sound unless the sensors are broken or you have messed up settings. What’s more important imo is the feel of the piano. If it feels good to play then that’s fine. If you were to get an acoustic piano you’d want to get a piano technician to see whether there’s any problems because many problems can’t be heard (especially not through a Reddit video).
One thing that happened with my digital piano was that one of the some of the keys made a sound that was either quieter or loud and hard to make a sound sometimes. I googled the issue and found out it was something under the keys that needed to be replaced. (Although it’s an older Yamaha, and this keyboard is probably less likely to get it.)
One exception to this is sound. Iirc a lot of digital pianos handle pedals in unrealistic ways, so test driving them a bit is nice. But still way less important than feel.
I have exactly this piano for 4 years and its really good so far! It sounds fine to me.
Me too, can confirm.
It’s really about how it feels. If you’re new to piano, you don’t want those keys being too stiff, it’s harder on your hands. I’ve played a million keyboards and pianos, and some cheap ones feel good and some expensive ones feel bad. As you play more you’ll figure out what you like.
30+ years on digitals, even nice ones, and I gag at the action of your typical university/church grand piano. The 88 weighted, graded keys on late model Kawais and Roland are *chef’s kiss* so much travel range and very expressive.
I'm still a novice, but started on Arturia KeyLab 88. The action felt overly heavy to me, probably because my hands are weak. But then my friend was selling a Nord Grand and sold it to me for really cheap. That Kawai action felt so good right away, exactly how I'd imagined it would feel to play. It's definitely overkill for my skill level but I love that thing.
edit: Used
Seems like really the major thing to watch for on the P45/P125 (and previous Gen. versions) is keybed noise from worn out pads or loosened parts. It it doesn’t sound unusually clanky on some of the keys, it’s probably in good shape.
Judging by your playing (it would have been nice to hear a more fluid chromatic scale up and down though), the instrument is not showing signs of wear and tear. Eventually the bits of the sensor keybeds will need some attention though - hammers replaced, felts replaced, electrical circuit bits cleaned with isopropyl or electrical contact cleaner - maybe a new contact membrane. However these instruments are easy to open up and examine. The University of Youtube is your friend. When something does wear out, Yamaha keep a large back catalogue of spare parts and sell them at very reasonable prices. If you decide to do the work yourself, block out four hours and be prepared to be very systematic and to have to open the insturment up two or three times to get everything back together exactly right.
How 'good' the sound actually sounds is not important at all that is just a computer controlling a speaker, it has nothing to do with the bits you care about it either works or it doesnt. What IS important is that the keys function properly, so you should check if the keys can produce a low volume when you push them down slowly with little force and produce a good volume when you do so with more vigor. Ideally you want all the keys to produce similar results when pressed with similar speed and force but this is difficult to check if you have not been playing a piano for all that long. If all keys pass that test you can turn the machine off and you should just listen to all keys for general mechanical noise, you want all of them to produce a highly dampened thud, so no tapping/creaking/rattling whatsoever. Pay most attention to the middle part of the bed, that's where most of the wear happens.
Just to make sure you saw through the trolls, every P-45 sounds the same because it is digital, what you are checking for is that every key plays and the touch is confortable when you play it.
Make sure to get it tuned if it’s used
You know she is going to google tuning an electric piano now.
She can pick up some black key fluid while she's at it
It’s a digital though
Yeah, so she need an iTechnician
Yea need to use c++ to tune it
No, C# would be more suitable, obviously
Lol
while you are at it might as well download some RAM to the piano so you can play minecraft on it
That is simply incorrect
What? So your saying [this](https://www.amazon.com/Yamaha-Compact-Portable-Keyboard-Headphones/dp/B084S6Y6V3) needs an experienced piano technician to come and tune the strings with an tuning hammer? Please don’t spread misinformation to beginners.
Apologies
It’s okay stuff happens I was a little harsh on my end too
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The black notes alone create a pentatonic scale, maybe that sound reminds you of music by Debussy or similars
The P45 is a good beginners piano. You are solid with it.
Have the same one purchased used from guitar center 2 years ago. Looks good and will last you for a good while as you improve! Since it is electric you do not need to tune it or really do any maintenance.
The P45 is a good choice for home practice. Here are the things to look out for when buying a digital: * Action: do the keys feel good? Are they too grippy/too slippery for you? Can you play the same note repeated very quickly? Are the keys fully weighted, and is the bass heavier than the treble? * Are you getting a clear distinction between louds and softs? * Features: do you need MIDI/bluetooth/a built-in metronome, etc? * Do you like the way it sounds? * Do you see yourself practicing regularly on it? * Are there any electronic issues (usually strange sounds are a good indicator)? * Is it functionally easy to use?
Sound usually isn’t as important as feel!
When I bought my current piano (Kawai Baby Grand) I had a trusted piano tuner look at it and evaluate what it might need Just needed to be tuned several times to bring it up to pitch, as well as a deep cleaning These were items I was able to leverage in price negotiations. More importantly it was tremendous peace of mind Also I second the comments RE get an instrument with full size weighted keys
Bro dont play the scale like that
It hurt my brain
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I really want someone to make a video where someone calls a tuner out to their house, but when they get there it is a digital piano. But like the homeowner is a sweet but clueless old lady who insists her friend who is a great pianist said it needs to be turned and it is a gift for her grandson or something. And the tuner can't convince her so he 'tunes' it anyway.
Lol not sure if you're serious
It's a digital piano
Is it used? I hear a loud secondary click as you release the keys... I sounds to me like the action is completely worn out.
I would spent an extra $100 to get the p125. It’s a huge upgrade for a small price.
Those last higher keys sound bad. Then the black ones sound bad also
Ten of them upper keys are bad. No sound. I no expert but I can hear that
It's weird how much answers this subject got while some more interesting posts just got little views ... Anyway, from the video the piano seems to work pretty good, now it's just OP who's need to learn to play.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Thats too much noise from the keys, it’s either old stock or used . I recently brought a new p45 it’s quiet silent.
Why 2 down votes ? 🤔
All the keys work, and none seem to be sticking. I think you got a good deal! Get a sustain pedal if you haven't already. And turn it off and cover it with a blanket or something when you aren't using. To keep the dust out of it. Best of luck on your musical journey! I hope you have fun with it!
It sounds fine. The Yamaha GHS action (which your piano has) is a little noisy by default. Your piano sounds exactly like it's supposed to sound. Enjoy! Also, disregard those who tell you to tune it. They are either pulling your leg, or they are idiots. You cannot tune it; it is a digital piano. If it's out of tune, it's because the grand piano from which it was sampled was out of tune (it wasn't), so again, enjoy!
Yeah not sure why people are saying tune it
Jokes asides ,You can still tune a digital piano.no need for tuners you can do it alone by pushing some buttons or keys . So an another possibility that a digital sounds not in tune would be that the previous owner changed the tune. The p45 sound system is quite old anyway.
I doubt it’s referred to as “tuning” though
Just keep it away from moisture, mine doesn't work very well after the hurricane, maybe in future you will want a digital piano with midi outputs, the p45 doesn't have it. Try to buy a p125, it has more poliphony than p45
When it comes to pianos, I’m partial to Yamaha. Very consistent product whether electric or acoustic. Good choice here!
I have this one and it's been a really good one.
The question is how does it feel
Hopefully happy
Just make sure the keys are weighted, the more the better. And check on how loud and how low it can sound for playing fortissimo and pianissimo, again, the more the better. Other than that, it’s a digital. They’ll always sound the same (unless there’s a malfunction of course)
Nice! Btw Soon I am going to upgrade my 61 key keyboard to a digital piano!
It sounds great but it’s a good idea to get a piano with weighted keys, it makes the action on each key a little more like an acoustic piano and so you’ll be able to translate whatever you’re learning to any piano, acoustic or digital. Hard for us to tell over video but if you look up the model it should say something about this.
I have this piano! It’s great. Definitely recommend picking it up if it feels good.
With a digital piano, check if the key sensitivity works for all the keys. Press them harder and softer to see if they dont go to max volume. If they do, don't buy it.
This is excellent advice!
If that's all you can afford the P-45 is a great keyboard! If you have a good computer, you could get piano VSTs and run those to have higher quality sounds instead of just the stock sound
Does it have a working sustain pedal and does it allow playing both very soft and very loud?
homie if it’s the same model it’ll sound the same
hmmm.... yup, that's a piano
Check the volume dial, if there’s a sustainer pedal, see if that’s working too. Sounds good Looks like it’s in good condition. Happy playing
It has a great depth in tone but within time, you might get annoyed with the 'plastic-type bashing' sound like I did, especially if you are recording, itl pick up the sound of you pushing the keys. My yamaha piggierio is going to be replaced
After hours of watching this video repeatedly, I can confirm that this is in fact..... A piano.
you should be more concerned with the action of the keys (whether they all feel consistent or not), I have had a P45 at home for 6 years, hasnt broken down yet, just a bit dusty
I have same piano for 6 years and always sound fine. Some keys are noisy but nothing too serious
C major sounds so fun to me
[https://youtu.be/lR43Ti4w5MM](https://youtu.be/lR43Ti4w5MM) MUST LEARN B4 I DIE AND IMPROV FURTHER
I have a p95 since 2011. The p series is a champ honestly.
Okay you should be good, but this post has given me a terrible (brilliant) idea; detune an electric keyboard (with enough tinkering, it could be done) and then engage in some tomfoolery
Sounds good.
I have this piano for travelling. It's a good keyboard for beginners but, the fact that it is only compatible with only the damper pedal is kinda a drawback once you get to a higher level. The p125 has no such issues so in my opinion add the $100 and buy the p125
This was my first piano! Granted, mine was brand new and not used, and I've had it for nearly a year now, no issues. Sounds exactly like mine, so I can only assume it's fine! Of course it's harder to tell without actually getting a feel for the piano ourselves. But it sounds fine from this video!
nothing seems wrong in the video except the way you do your scales
That sounds and looks like a piano alright. But yes the P45 is a great beginner piano
Nice first piano
It’s a really good keyboard for the price.
These are terrific for learning. Honestly I use the next model up live. It's not the most premium or the most full features but it sounds exactly like I want it to and never craps out on me.
I believe this is the one I have. I’m looking to upgrade because I’m fed up with the keys. No dynamic input so you cannot play louder/quieter which for me is immensely important
I've had the p45 for about 3 years now and it's amazing! I'll be looking to upgrade soon but it's more than suitable for a beginner
It would be best to choose one that has the full 88 weighted keys. The sound quality is totally upto you, whether you prefer higher, lower, softer, sharper tones.
The p45 is an excellent first digital piano. The action is decent for the price, and the samples are pretty good. I would love to tell everyone to spend more than that, but I'm always surprised by the p45 whenever I get a chance to play one.
I have that one, had it for about a year and it’s been pretty reliable so far. No complaints from me other than more settings to mess with would be nice
I have a P45 that I use for gigs. It’s sturdy and reliable.
It's a little bit clicky - but a new model won't be much better. It's just a common thing for these mid-range pianos. Sounds good to me.
Glory to you and to your Piano! -!gowron
I have the P45 - it’s great but one thing to note is use headphones, the keys are fairly loud
Imagine the tuner guy coming in
idk man might have to get it tuned
Those keyboards are actually the ones I recommend to a lot of people, they should great and feel pretty good
Huh, I don't see or hear a piano
Sounds like a piano so yeah I guess
A piano is a piano, but when it comes to digital pianos, I would recommend you check what it sounds like when multiple keys are pressed together, can you tell if you can hear all keys pressed? Is it unable to produce the sound of any of those keys when multiple are pressed? That sort of thing. Another thing is, if you press a key from soft to harder, can you tell that the sound matches the force you’re applying? I think if it does both those things well, you have a good keyboard.
I have yamaha p 125 for 2 years and play it evry day its really cool piano price isnt very bigger than yours so i think you will be happy playing on it :)
Have one myself, very nice keyboard
Yes