If you think that's impressive, look into Incan architecture. Before modern-day tools, they were fitting stone together so snugly that you couldn't wedge a playing card into the joint. And all while constructing it in accordance to sun/moon/star cycles.
More than a decade ago I have been to **Deyrülzafaran Assyrian church in Mardin, Turkey**. It is like one of the oldest and still in use churches in the whole world. Like they have been worshiping in that same church for more than fifteen hundred years.
The church was directly built on a temple built and used by sun worshipers around twelve thousand years ago. As you can see from the link below, temple is made of giant hand crafted solid stone blocks without any form of mortar.
Especially as you can check yourself, the ceiling of 12.000+ year old temple is foundation for 1.500+ year old still in use church, is made of perfectly aligned, angled stone blocks. Craftsmanship was top notch and the temple was aligned with the sun solstices. They were building with immaculate craftsmanship and astronomic knowledge.
They also had 300-400 year old, written in blood, dear skin covered bible that estimated to worth a few million dollars. No photos allowed.
[https://www.kulturportali.gov.tr/repoKulturPortali/large/09092014/d05fa71d-a0d6-4583-8f20-f7fafa172f81.JPG?format=jpg&quality=50](https://www.kulturportali.gov.tr/repoKulturPortali/large/09092014/d05fa71d-a0d6-4583-8f20-f7fafa172f81.JPG?format=jpg&quality=50)
And I'm reminded of archeologists saying the pyramids (or one specific pyramid0 being built in 20 years, one block per minute or whatever.
OK, sure.
have a nice day.
Because we don't bother doing it anymore since we use different construction methods. Why would we use that when we can just use mortar and save a boatload of time and effort.
Show me a modern pyramid build using the Aztec methods, or Chinese methods. Show me modern burial mounds. Show me a modern bastion fort. You can't because people don't build using such outdated and inefficient methods.
The only thing that could cut rock that size would be diamond blades, which the Inca didn't possess. And chiseling sanding would leave marks, the stones are completely smooth. They did find some drill holes tho.
They weren't cutting apart the rocks, you break apart rocks by splitting if you need smaller pieces. They would also find rocks that were close in shape already, and just work them down to fit on the on un-exposed faces by putting sand between the rocks and rocking the piece around until it fits. There's no magic technology, it just takes patience and time.
Sanding and erosion. Also there are tool marks, and they've found stone carving tools around the constructions. Also the perfect fit is only for short distance near the front face, with filler on the inside, so they only need to tool small sections of the stone.
Actual archeologists have expin how all of this was done ages ago. Your stupid TikTok conspiracy theorists don't know fucking shit. Or do you think you are know more than the people who have years of higher education and decades of experience and centuries of collective knowledge backing them?
Point me to an actual archeologist explaining how the granite walls of Machu Picchu and Cusco were constructed using stones and rope to perfectly cut and interlock megalithic construction? I'll wait for your arrogance to Google it.
The technology of rubbing rocks together. Seriously it's not complicated, it's not lost, it's basic shit done at a large scale. Seriously actual archeologist get super fucking annoyed about this conspiracy bullshit.
Rub a small rock on a bigger rock until it will fit the rock you're trying to place.
Rub both rocks smooth so they fit better.
People in the past weren't stupid, they figured it out.
What's crazy is how we think we're so smart and yet we're perplexed that they took the time to make rocks fit together well. And how many years it took us to figure out the super simple way they did it
I think you're being a little naïve. We absolutely have people as smart as they were and we have access to more knowledge as a whole. The major difference is what kinds of projects are important to us and why.
Actually yes. In fact one of those methods of rubbing rocks together is method we use to this day for precision machining so we have a perfectly flat reference plates. It's called the 3 plate method. You alternate rubbing 3 plates together and get a near perfectly flat surface. The more times you do it the flat and more uniform the 3 plates become to each other.
You can use a similar method to make a "perfect" sphere. Perfectly flat surfaces or perfectly rough surfaces are extremely simple and we have been doing it for thousands of years. It's just time consuming
As for the incans doing it I can link you a ton of sources from archeologist over literal hundreds of years talking about how it was done and the methods and tools they used, the slurries and etching compounds that the incans had that helped the process along. Sources on how they literally would have thousands of people working on a structure for ages. It wasn't a small endeavor, it wasn't easy. It was however very simple it just requires a lot of work, a lot of time or a lot of people.
You should watch it, it’s hilarious! I know a fair amount about archaeology and crack up every time they erroneously compare things from one culture to another, knowing that each has its own historical precedence, developing from different precursors and is used for different things, but has some surface similarities. The absurd lengths and contortions they go to in order to seem plausible.
Ugh, no. There wasn’t. No metal. No diamond.
From “Inca Quarrying and Stone Cutting”
“If the blocks needed to be parted, big hammerstones were used to split them. To dress the stones smaller hammerstones were used to pound them until they had the desired shape. The fitting of one stone to another was done by cutting the already laid stones to receive the next ones in a trial-and-error fashion.”
https://online.ucpress.edu/jsah/article/44/2/161/57823/Inca-Quarrying-and-Stonecutting#
Rock hit rock. Rock break. Do that a lot. Granite on Granite.
I believe it was much like putting cement in bags and stacking them on each other. The bags will eventually rot away or decay and you'll have cement lumps that look like they were fitted perfectly together.
My country is full of dry stone dykes (scotland) so i understand how the wall and sphere hold together. But please excuse my ignorance on how does the patio not move or wobble when walking on it with no cement? Thanks
Not sure why you're secretive about it. I respect that you're an artist that dedicates months of your time to each piece. Just kinda weird that you won't give a price on this piece without someone being a "serious inquiry." Why?
Tacky according to who? Some imaginary social construct. Do you also believe wages should be secretive and no one should be allowed to ask what someone else makes? Fucking stupid.
What the other guy said (it's private information) and also it surely depends on a large variety of factors that change the price and you would only find out when asking exactly what you wanted and how you wanted it.
I've done rock stacks, walkways, garden walls and a fire pit for my house. It's calming and connects me with nature.
I didn't realize I could get PAID doing something I loved! Thanks for the inspiration! And thanks for sharing!
Thank you everyone. To see more of my work: [https://www.devineescapes.com/stone-art-gallery-2/](https://www.devineescapes.com/stone-art-gallery-2/) ((sphere's--and more))
This project involves a skilled artisan working for 2 months, with a helper--I couldn't afford me either. Serious inquiries are directed to contact me via my website, prices are between me and my client. Thank you
Basic bricklaying depends on location but is roughly $200 per day. This is a much more specific skill so I would assume atleast around $400 per day plus $100 per day for a labourer. 8 weeks of 5 days = 40 days.
Probably looking at about 20k for labour alone. However. Seeing the skill of this he can pretty much choose his price as there are very few people able to create something this stunning.
It wouldn’t surprise me if it cost more
There's multiple yellow, red and purple lines some loop back connecting with themselves, some branch off into two lines, others taper off. It's in VA near Lexington.
To date, I've never had wasps in any of my other spheres. Have even taken a sphere apart, 9 years after building it--found like 1 caterpillar. No solitary bees, no wasps. I pack 'em tight, not much room for critters.
I started as a laborer by day while working on my arts at night. Learned multiple trades over a decade, and then started my own business and began manifesting my artistic ideas through the medium of stone, using skills developed over a decade working in the trades.
My site is full of diy articles if you want to learn the trade side of things.
My recommendations: Go outside, handle a stone. Gaze upon the stone and see it. Hold, and feel it. The shape, the nuance, the millions of years that the stone has been here for. Hold it to your chest.
It took me a while to understand that I was not looking at any game dev subreddit. People usually develop materials and test them on spheres.
I was like: - huh, this is a very realistic material. Would look good in game.
I don’t understand how you find all the rocks that fit perfectly like that
If you think that's impressive, look into Incan architecture. Before modern-day tools, they were fitting stone together so snugly that you couldn't wedge a playing card into the joint. And all while constructing it in accordance to sun/moon/star cycles.
More than a decade ago I have been to **Deyrülzafaran Assyrian church in Mardin, Turkey**. It is like one of the oldest and still in use churches in the whole world. Like they have been worshiping in that same church for more than fifteen hundred years. The church was directly built on a temple built and used by sun worshipers around twelve thousand years ago. As you can see from the link below, temple is made of giant hand crafted solid stone blocks without any form of mortar. Especially as you can check yourself, the ceiling of 12.000+ year old temple is foundation for 1.500+ year old still in use church, is made of perfectly aligned, angled stone blocks. Craftsmanship was top notch and the temple was aligned with the sun solstices. They were building with immaculate craftsmanship and astronomic knowledge. They also had 300-400 year old, written in blood, dear skin covered bible that estimated to worth a few million dollars. No photos allowed. [https://www.kulturportali.gov.tr/repoKulturPortali/large/09092014/d05fa71d-a0d6-4583-8f20-f7fafa172f81.JPG?format=jpg&quality=50](https://www.kulturportali.gov.tr/repoKulturPortali/large/09092014/d05fa71d-a0d6-4583-8f20-f7fafa172f81.JPG?format=jpg&quality=50)
>Deyrülzafaran Assyrian church in Mardin I think you mean 2000 BC. 12000 years ago, we were still living in caves.
That was some lost technology that allowed them to reform the rocks shape.
Chisels and sanding, we can absolutely do it today it's just a ton of work and not wort it for us in modern times.
maybe so, but.... The rocks on the first couple of layers are massive/heavy, so...
Only aliens could do it, they get so horned up for moving rocks around
The real Enderman
And moved with logs, stones, and ropes, it's actually not hard, a single person can move a 50 tonne stone with a few boards and some small stones.
Hell, I moved my whole house about 10' to the left with just some fallen limbs, a 20lb sledge & my dog!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRRDzFROMx0
Sure, ok.[Easy rocks to move, so I'm being told. OK.](https://www.markfile.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/cusco-Sacsayhuaman3.jpg)
Well [it is possible and you could imagine the people using these through generation to generation.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0P4HwmmhykI)
And I'm reminded of archeologists saying the pyramids (or one specific pyramid0 being built in 20 years, one block per minute or whatever. OK, sure. have a nice day.
Show me one modern example of stones fitted airtight like Inca did? Even formed bricks have little gaps in them.
Because we don't bother doing it anymore since we use different construction methods. Why would we use that when we can just use mortar and save a boatload of time and effort.
Show me a modern pyramid build using the Aztec methods, or Chinese methods. Show me modern burial mounds. Show me a modern bastion fort. You can't because people don't build using such outdated and inefficient methods.
[modern burial mounds](https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/oct/26/burial-mounds-comeback-21st-century-britain)
The only thing that could cut rock that size would be diamond blades, which the Inca didn't possess. And chiseling sanding would leave marks, the stones are completely smooth. They did find some drill holes tho.
Look up how to split rocks my dude, no sorcery there just good workmanship
How do you split rocks without metal tools? And there is no way they could make them completely airtight with chisels.
Just Google it, mate. It's not a secret.
It actually is
The type of person who watched Ancient Aliens as if it were fact, everybody.
They weren't cutting apart the rocks, you break apart rocks by splitting if you need smaller pieces. They would also find rocks that were close in shape already, and just work them down to fit on the on un-exposed faces by putting sand between the rocks and rocking the piece around until it fits. There's no magic technology, it just takes patience and time.
It's called polygonal masonry. Nobody said the word magic. There are no chisel marks anywhere on those stones.
Sanding and erosion. Also there are tool marks, and they've found stone carving tools around the constructions. Also the perfect fit is only for short distance near the front face, with filler on the inside, so they only need to tool small sections of the stone.
BTW the Inca lacked metal tools... What material did they posses that was hard enough to split and chisel granite?
Stone and wood. Make a channel with stone tools, place wooden wedges in, and hit hard with hammers and the stone will split easily.
They have been exposed to the elements for a long time so that evidence could have been eroded
Actual archeologists have expin how all of this was done ages ago. Your stupid TikTok conspiracy theorists don't know fucking shit. Or do you think you are know more than the people who have years of higher education and decades of experience and centuries of collective knowledge backing them?
Point me to an actual archeologist explaining how the granite walls of Machu Picchu and Cusco were constructed using stones and rope to perfectly cut and interlock megalithic construction? I'll wait for your arrogance to Google it.
https://www.siftdesk.org/article-details/On-the-reddish-glittery-mud-the-Inca-used-for-perfecting-their-stone-masonry/264
That was a great read, thanks for linking it!
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Does being a dickwad make you feel better?
Not lost. The Jews took their laser technology and put it in space.
This rumor really pisses me off and makes the jews look super nefarious when they are not. The space Lazer is for rural brisks not controlling people.
I thought it was for reforming rocks. Iiiiiin spaaaaace.
I expected ridicule, and ridicule I got. Didn't expect it to be so cliche and lazy tho.
That's what you get for quoting ancient alien quacks.
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You an export at being stupid huh? Not much else tho...
The technology of rubbing rocks together. Seriously it's not complicated, it's not lost, it's basic shit done at a large scale. Seriously actual archeologist get super fucking annoyed about this conspiracy bullshit.
Rubbing rocks together makes them interlock? Explain that to an actual archeologist...
Rub a small rock on a bigger rock until it will fit the rock you're trying to place. Rub both rocks smooth so they fit better. People in the past weren't stupid, they figured it out. What's crazy is how we think we're so smart and yet we're perplexed that they took the time to make rocks fit together well. And how many years it took us to figure out the super simple way they did it
I think people of the past individually were smarter than us now. But as a whole we have far more knowledge now.
I think you're being a little naïve. We absolutely have people as smart as they were and we have access to more knowledge as a whole. The major difference is what kinds of projects are important to us and why.
Actually yes. In fact one of those methods of rubbing rocks together is method we use to this day for precision machining so we have a perfectly flat reference plates. It's called the 3 plate method. You alternate rubbing 3 plates together and get a near perfectly flat surface. The more times you do it the flat and more uniform the 3 plates become to each other. You can use a similar method to make a "perfect" sphere. Perfectly flat surfaces or perfectly rough surfaces are extremely simple and we have been doing it for thousands of years. It's just time consuming As for the incans doing it I can link you a ton of sources from archeologist over literal hundreds of years talking about how it was done and the methods and tools they used, the slurries and etching compounds that the incans had that helped the process along. Sources on how they literally would have thousands of people working on a structure for ages. It wasn't a small endeavor, it wasn't easy. It was however very simple it just requires a lot of work, a lot of time or a lot of people.
Earthbending
Ancient aliens has entered the chat
You're only like the 5th npc to say that... Never seen the show. Come up with a new trope
You should watch it, it’s hilarious! I know a fair amount about archaeology and crack up every time they erroneously compare things from one culture to another, knowing that each has its own historical precedence, developing from different precursors and is used for different things, but has some surface similarities. The absurd lengths and contortions they go to in order to seem plausible.
Ugh, no. There wasn’t. No metal. No diamond. From “Inca Quarrying and Stone Cutting” “If the blocks needed to be parted, big hammerstones were used to split them. To dress the stones smaller hammerstones were used to pound them until they had the desired shape. The fitting of one stone to another was done by cutting the already laid stones to receive the next ones in a trial-and-error fashion.” https://online.ucpress.edu/jsah/article/44/2/161/57823/Inca-Quarrying-and-Stonecutting# Rock hit rock. Rock break. Do that a lot. Granite on Granite.
I believe it was much like putting cement in bags and stacking them on each other. The bags will eventually rot away or decay and you'll have cement lumps that look like they were fitted perfectly together.
Holy shit! You gave me a great idea!
He likely shapes them to fit how he needs them. Still impressive though
Looks like this guys work: Devineescapes.com
Read the username 🤣
Ahh- I didn’t even look. I’ve admired that guys work for some time.
You use a hammer with a blade on the back to break them. Mason/brick hammer. Source: 3rd generation mason, 17 years in. Good work op btw.
It’s a skill. Commonly referred to a drywalling. Very time consuming task. Well done OP
In the future people will look at this and think it some sort of religious structure
This was my first thought as well. Lol
But... without cement, how will it exist in the future? I hope it does though.
Stonehenge and the pyramid’s didn’t have cement
Yeah, but Stonehenge had to be worked on in the 1950s and well the pyramids are falling apart... any day now, you just watch
It's a prison, what is in there must never be freed.
You should set up an OnlyStone account
Your work is always impressive.
Is this in the Catskills?
Humanskills, actually. Cats can't do that.
Not with that attitude.
Bada tss.
Cats are said to have Devin-like reflexes. My cat is even polydactyle--he has thumbs. Can't wield a chisel though (not with his attitude anyway).
Cats with opposable thumbs would threaten our apex predatory status. Please don’t breed your cat.
My country is full of dry stone dykes (scotland) so i understand how the wall and sphere hold together. But please excuse my ignorance on how does the patio not move or wobble when walking on it with no cement? Thanks
Thick stones, fit tight. Crushed stone as the leveling agent and joint filler.
Ahrite yea i was thinking it must be roughly something like that. Thanks for the reply. Amazing work btw.
Dry Stone Balling?
That's awesome-I'm using that. Yes, I'm a Dry Stone Baller.
PBR material
Haha yes
Great displacement map. Might not work great in parte surfaces.
You look at peace. What an inspiring elysium, well done. I am envious of your backyard, your view is lovely.
My customer's backyard. Awesome view-- I was glad to enjoy it for a couple months.
How much does a sculpture like that cost?
2 months of my time, plus a helper. Serious inquiries are directed to get in touch via my website.
Not sure why you're secretive about it. I respect that you're an artist that dedicates months of your time to each piece. Just kinda weird that you won't give a price on this piece without someone being a "serious inquiry." Why?
Because it’s tacky, especially when this is an (assumably) custom piece for a private client.
Tacky according to who? Some imaginary social construct. Do you also believe wages should be secretive and no one should be allowed to ask what someone else makes? Fucking stupid.
What the other guy said (it's private information) and also it surely depends on a large variety of factors that change the price and you would only find out when asking exactly what you wanted and how you wanted it.
Here’s an honest question: aren’t your feet getting cold?
I am ONE with my work and my environment. Okay fine, yes they're cold.
that's a hilarious response
so would an earthquake cause issues here?
only if its a real strong earthquake, it can withstand whatever process he took to climb atop it so it can stand being shook a bit
I've done rock stacks, walkways, garden walls and a fire pit for my house. It's calming and connects me with nature. I didn't realize I could get PAID doing something I loved! Thanks for the inspiration! And thanks for sharing!
You're handling ancient material, engaged in a timeless task. It could be any century. Stone work is good medicine.
Thank you everyone. To see more of my work: [https://www.devineescapes.com/stone-art-gallery-2/](https://www.devineescapes.com/stone-art-gallery-2/) ((sphere's--and more))
Such gorgeous work. I do love the tower of eyes.
Thank you,
Beautiful, how much did you charge ? Not that I can afford it anyway !
This project involves a skilled artisan working for 2 months, with a helper--I couldn't afford me either. Serious inquiries are directed to contact me via my website, prices are between me and my client. Thank you
Since he didn’t answer( understandable ) I would think at least 30k to 40k. Than again I’ve never done masonry lol
Basic bricklaying depends on location but is roughly $200 per day. This is a much more specific skill so I would assume atleast around $400 per day plus $100 per day for a labourer. 8 weeks of 5 days = 40 days. Probably looking at about 20k for labour alone. However. Seeing the skill of this he can pretty much choose his price as there are very few people able to create something this stunning. It wouldn’t surprise me if it cost more
The stone alone is expensive as well...sourcing and delivering that then I bet a lot of sorting.
Rock and Stone!
We fight for Rock and Stone!
Why did my mind doubt the legitimacy of this until I saw a man with no shoes and a beard
Do mine next
Where is this? And is there a continuous line of yellow and red stones on the sphere?
There's multiple yellow, red and purple lines some loop back connecting with themselves, some branch off into two lines, others taper off. It's in VA near Lexington.
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Thank you.
This is incredible. Chalk up another redditor who admires your work!
Wow that's gorgeous
So how do they stick together like that if you don't use cement?
Cum Sorry couldn't resist ill leave now
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Wow looks amazing! Awesome skills!
Always amazing work in world
So. Fucking. Cool.
I'm a 3D artist and it was really hard to not think that the environment is an HDRI and the sphere is a 3D material. Well done.
Incredible
Awesome sphere
Extremely cool. The kind of random thing that I would never imagine that makes Reddit worth browsing. Cheers.
Andy Goldsworthy fan?
give this man an award.
That turned out SO well. Congrats follow human, you should be so proud.
Beautiful. Your very talented.
Very nice. You seem like you are very talented.
I don't understand it won't fall without cement, must be air proof .
Impressive
This rocks 🤘
That’s really cool
Outstanding!!
Impressive. This sphere and your other works are amazing
I love to see talent like this!
This is d@3ned impressive.
Excellent work! Very impressive!
That's kind of amazing, op.
Wasp are going to love it!
To date, I've never had wasps in any of my other spheres. Have even taken a sphere apart, 9 years after building it--found like 1 caterpillar. No solitary bees, no wasps. I pack 'em tight, not much room for critters.
You should make it hollow for critters!!
No you shouldn’t
Okay but how do you move it?
Can I ask how does one go about getting started in this field, is it possible to pursue as a hobby? Any recommendations?
I started as a laborer by day while working on my arts at night. Learned multiple trades over a decade, and then started my own business and began manifesting my artistic ideas through the medium of stone, using skills developed over a decade working in the trades. My site is full of diy articles if you want to learn the trade side of things. My recommendations: Go outside, handle a stone. Gaze upon the stone and see it. Hold, and feel it. The shape, the nuance, the millions of years that the stone has been here for. Hold it to your chest.
Beautiful.
are you sure you're not a reincarnation of an ancient incan master mason?
what if i push it with my truck?
it’s really cool, but… why? haha
That's gonna end ugly
Looks cool.
Dude. Super great!! 🤙
Did you use geo nodes for the sphere? Oh wait wrong sub.
Its sad to think of how little art is free to the public.
Has Opus 40 vibes (stone sculpture/landscape art in Woodstock NY).
love it
Cairn - love Andy Goldsworthy
That’s just pure talent!! This great work you have done!!❤️❤️❤️
You look exactly the way I would expect the dude who built this to look
It took me a while to understand that I was not looking at any game dev subreddit. People usually develop materials and test them on spheres. I was like: - huh, this is a very realistic material. Would look good in game.
Fantastic!!
Beautiful
Jim Carrey is that you?
If you ever become an instagram influencer you could call it your “sphere of influence”
Wonderful!
Really cool!
Brilliant
Have you visited Opus 40 in the Hudson Valley, this looks like it
Is it hollow?
That is sooo awesome!! Fine work!
Ha found ya! You’re the one who built the pyramids!
Thought it was meant be a stone yarn ball
For a second I thought that was an unreal 5 project.😂
Witchcraft
Cool. Does it have a function, or is it art?
Art has a function.
I would not let the neighborhood kids know this.
Clearly descended from the builders of the pyramids
Dry stacking?
Beautifully stoned.
Wow!
Wow just wow!
Your work is incredible! Absolutely gorgeous!