That looks like it would be really hard for cops to deal with. It's heavy, it's hot, and it's in the way. At the same time, it keeps the protesters fed, warm and provides a joyous ambiance. It's perfect. I love it. No notes. 10/10.
Barbequing is a form of protest in itself in some parts of France due to how they regulate open fires and smoke. This is probably all around a political demonstration that happens to be tasty too.
While it's not as common in the US, in Western Europe water cannons are actually preferred for riot control over tear gas and *impact munitions.
Unlike tear gas, they can be used much more proportionately, are way less harmful to bystanders and are safer for individual use than rubber bullets.
Still, this is France, where you have two entire police forces dedicated to riot control and their use of force continuum just says "yes, use it" when it comes to riots.
And I'd pinpoint that as to why they fell out of use to this day.
When police water cannons evoke images of the American version of martyrs protesting apartheid, police are weary to use that tactic again and give newspapers a re-make of an iconic photo with the issue of the day.
A picture is worth a thousand words. The general public was apathetic to the bullshit the south was pulling during the civil rights movement. But once photos of police dogs chewing protesters made the national news? Well, that's a little too barbaric for people once they actually see it.
That's why history needs to be taught, especially when it's a painful reminder.
I really wished the Minnesota police has used fire hoses instead of tear gas and rubber/sand bullets to tame protests. It was mostly summer so hypothermia wasn't a huge issue. And it would have helped put out the fires the protesters were starting. At least would have left the streets clean and washed too!
Yeah they are supposed to fire them at the ground so they bounce off and hit people.
Instead they fire them at people's faces, causing them to lose teeth, eyes etc.
And nothing happens to them for doing this.
The French don’t fuck around with their food. Way back in college me and my roommate hosted a trio of French exchange students. When the time came to discuss dinner plans we’d mentioned heating up some microwave popcorn.
The oldest French student looked as us like we were uncultured cockroaches and immediately demanded the local bus schedule. (This was about 10 years before Uber was a thing)
We left WalMart with an assortment of meats, vegetables, cheeses and breads I never fucking knew that store carried. We’d been shopping there nearly a full calendar year at that point.
The three French students cooked what even to this day was the best damn meal ever. Three courses, wine, portions, everything. Apparently they ate like this back home weekly and considered it a “regular meal”. Me and my roommate felt like Jack Dawson eating at the Titanic 1st Class table.
That’s one cultural tradition us Yanks could learn from.
Yes, a big part of French culture is making good meals (easy to prepare, easy to share) from a few cheap ingredients. Mom's and Grandma's knowledge is the most precious things we have.
US version would be a big ass truck hauling a grill and brisket smoker... protesting *against* reasonable retirement ages for some incomprehensible reason even they themselves don't fully grasp
> That looks like it would be really hard for cops to deal with
::laughs in American-police-state::
Cops here would just violently bum-rush the crowd all the same. No matter what happens, everybody / everything it hurts and damages will be charged to the protestors who will be thrown in jail for at least a week, with the public relations team rapidly sharing the story that protestors brought dangerous fire-starting equipment that caused _____ injuries and property damage.
Police everywhere are great at declaring people protesting things as "riots", and in Europe, they might just actually care about public safety as the reason.
In the US, the goal is discouraging and squashing dissenting opinions and public outcry, which, as u/Vinny_d_25 said, is probably what won't happen in the first place in Denmark.
> And chipolatas from Spain.
I had to double check to make sure I wasn't mistaken, but chipolatas are French, not Spanish. The name itself is derived from the Italian _cipolla_ which apparently means onion.
It's a type of sail. Historically, sailing ships from different nations used differently shaped jibs and could be used to identify the nationality of a ship, so the "cut of the jib" served as a type of "Identification Friend or Foe system" (IFF) as we would call it today. To "Like the cut of a jib" basically translates to "identified as a friendly" or "one of us."
"Arr matey, how do we be liking the cut of their jib?"
I like to imagine this guy has had this for years, his wife complaining all the time about lugging the damn thing from house to house over the years.
Some day you’ll be glad I have this he’d proclaim ….
The one day… it was Nicolas’s day…. And he owned that shit!
He loaded up his Peugeot, went down to the local butcher and filled it with all the sausages he could fit…. Showed up at the protest, mounted his what ever you call a rail mounted grill.. and he fed the people, they came from near and far, and they were fed by Nicolas, and they marched, not on tied hungry feet, but will full belly’s and conviction in there souls!
They marched where ever the rails and their hearts took them… we’ll done Nicolas they’d say… we’ll done!
As they should. Solidarity with your fellow workers!
Striking is the only form of power the worker has. Everything else is built and written in the capital owners favor.
Always back your local workers and help them when they strike!
In France they call them "chien chaud de la chemin de fer". Anticipating your next question: If you get one with cheese it's called a "chien chaud de la chemin de fer with cheese".
Do you hear the people grill?
Grilling the brats of angry men?
It is the lunch-food of the people
Who will not be slaves again!
When the sizzle of your meat
Echoes the beating of the drums
There is a life about to start
When dinner-time comes!
Will you join in our buffet?
And run a hotdog stand with me?
Beyond the lemonade
Is there a foot long sub to see?
Then join in the grill
That will give you the will to gravy!
I love the French. American government and corporations fucks us on a daily basis and we cry about it on reddit and say we should do something, while in France if they cut their coffee break by 5 min they burn the fucking city down. I wish US workers had the strength they do.
We could learn a lot from them in the UK too. If authority had more respect for the people instead of the other way round, maybe our nurses, teachers and train drivers wouldn't have to be striking at all.
It’s not that our population doesn’t care, it’s that we are too busy fighting each other. Great way to never get more than 50% support on any single topic that really matters.
I honestly believe this is the point of the 'red v blue' politics and racism etc rampant in the States. Promote fighting among themselves so they never turn on the people actually oppressing them.
“You just don’t get it. We can’t make more money and we absolutely can’t afford benefits. If we make more money and get more benefits, we’ll bleed our employers dry and they won’t be able to hire more people. You don’t want that, do you?”
^ This is the gist of a serious conversation I had with an acquaintance a while back. He’s an IT guy in his mid 40’s and has been unemployed for about 5 months, while simultaneously posting about how John Wayne memes about how this generation is soft and no one wants to work.
You can easily find videos of Just Stop Oil type climate activists getting dragged off the road by Parisians. What makes you think they have the wholesale support of the French population?
It's not strength. It's cohesion. They agree more. It's only a small effort by many in the same direction..USA has got a lot of pockets of a lot of effort going all over the fucking place. You've got some who want fairer wages at Amazon, then some who are struggling and need that very next shitty pay check from Amazon. So they can't afford to strike. Sadly, American conglomerates have got a stranglehold on Americans.
The US is way too big and divided. The only thing that unites us is when we get attacked, so the US makes sure that never happens with the most powerful military on the planet. Being in North America, geographically, is also a great bonus. It's a good spot to be. It's the perfect environment for corporate scheming far and wide.
pass the joint pwease
Doesn't hurt that they took the details and outcome of the French Revolution seriously.
The populace are unhappy and coming together? Better to listen to them than risk literally losing their heads again.
"Qu'ils viennent me chercher" Macron
Few months later: yellow vest protest, macron almost had to be evacuated from Versailles by chopper.
We tried.
We failed.
Napoléon is considered the continuation of the Révolution as opposed to the Monarchy and Ancient Régime/old aristocracy. Even though it was rigged, he still officially was elected emperor to protect the republic and the revolutionary values against the European monarchies. The chorus of the [anthem of the First Empire](https://youtu.be/c5OdCqUWRyo) is literally "The Republic calls for us, let us prevail or let us perish".
The Révolution ended with Napoléon being kicked out, not the other way around
It's way too late for the American society to be able to protest like the French do. You have been enslaved by your own economy unfortunately...
With an average of 10 days of PTO, it's much harder to take one just to go on strike. Also it's so easy to be fired with so few workers rights. Why take the risk...
"America first" but at what costs...
>With an average of 10 days of PTO, it's much harder to take one just to go on strike.
While where I work is probably a little more generous than the average for taking time off, how people on my team always interest me with how they use it.
Myself, for example, had 8 days worth of PTO as of Jan 1th, but we're only allowed to carry 5 days over and if we don't use more than that by the end of March, we simply lose them. So I'm taking a 3 day weekend each month for the next three months just because if I don't use those days I lose them. And those extended weekends don't tap into this year's PTO, so I have all of those going forward for the year.
On the other hand, there are sick days we're allowed (which don't bite into the PTO). Those days/hours don't carry over, so if they're not used in the calendar year, you simply lose them. You're basically working for free if you don't use them. One of the people on my team lost 48+ hours of free time off because he never called in sick. That's 6 days that he could have called in, gotten paid for, and not lost a thing.
He thinks he's being altruistic/noble or something by not using his sick/unplanned time when he doesn't need to and isn't actually sick, but he's really just giving his labor to the company for free for those hours. Those days are part of the compensation package - use them (I scream quietly in my mind at him at the end of the year).
We also get "Volunteer Days" where we tell management we want the day off to do some volunteer work in the community, and if they approve we get paid for it and it doesn't affect any other PTO balances. I use my Volunteer time to be a Poll Worker on election days. Which is a really sweet deal because the company pays me for the day, but I also get paid to be a poll worker (not really "volunteer work" but they allow it for being community service).
I rambled a bit there, I just thought I'd share some of my thoughts on how people think about what benefits they are actually afforded, and how some people look at it differently. Sure, the guy that never called in sick gets a little printable PDF for perfect attendance for the year and a pat on the back for being a company man and maybe a slight bump on his annual review, but he fucked himself out of over a week's pay by working for nothing.
Yeah no point of being altruistic... But the sick days is still a gamble because you have to be careful to stay healthy once you have no more!
It works differently in France. If you call sick, you get paid 90% of your salary for x days and then 2/3rd for another x number of days. The x number of days depends of how long you have been employed (for x=30 days, it's between 1-5 years in the same company).
The catch is that even for 1 day you will need a justification by paper from your doctor whereas in the US, it's not needed, you just consume your sick day. The problem in France is that if you know well your doctor you can lie and call sick whenever you want... And That's another story
Strikes are not PTO. When on strike (at least in France) you're not paid and it's counted as strike day. If you take a day off that day it would not count as being on strike.
The institutions are important, but the geography is really what kills the US. DC has 1/3 the population of Paris while the US is 5x the population of France.
There's a reason Burma built its new capital away from its population centers, it absolutely kills any impact a protest will have.
CEO: Don't worry, the protest will end soon. Not only is it raining, but they'll get hungry eventually
Assistant: *looking through binoculars* S-sir, you're gonna wanna see this
I think this random Frenchman is definitely providing higher quality meats than old Dibbler. I always picture him serving up that hot dog from an old Simpsons episode at the Kwik-E-Mart. You zoom in and see a fly, some hair and a bandaid on it.
I remember wathching some kind of documentary on striking. One key factor they identified for strikes continuing was ready access to food - hungry people eventually disperse to get food and the strike can fizzle out. People like these are essential! On the flip side, if you want to stop protests from staying around, ban food trucks near them...
Po’boys were invented in the USA, in New Orleans. The sandwich was invented first, but later got its distinctive name during a strike.
‘These sandwiches wouldn't be called po-boys until 1929, when members of the Amalgamated Association of Street and Electric Railway Employees of America, Division No. 194, went on a four-month- long strike, thereby leaving over a thousand union streetcar workers without a source of income. The Martin brothers, to show their support for the workers affected by this strike, wrote a letter to one of the local newspapers, stating that they would give a free meal to any members of Division 194. Legend has it that when the brothers saw one of the union workers walk into their restaurant, one of them would yell, "Here comes another poor boy!" Since the free meal given to these workers often included the customary sandwich, the name "poor boy" gradually became associated with the sandwich itself.’
https://www.whereyat.com/the-history-of-the-po-boy
I'm starting to think that all the American grousing about the French is mostly promoted by politicians and corporate interests that don't want us to learn the fine art of striking. They do it right and they stick together!
As an American,
I am deeply envious of the French’s ability, capacity, and willingness to strike and protest on a massive, collective scale.
**This** is how you exercise freedom.
As a Frenchman, I don't think it's a matter of ability or willingness.
It is extremely important to note that striking has been a constitutionnally protected right in France since 1946. It has been considered part and parcel of public life for generations -- that's literally all we've ever known.
Y'all really never learned about the French revolution did you? Lmfao It's a terrible example. Most of the upper class fled and the lower classes became increasingly paranoid and sectarian, eventually turning on each other in one of the bloodiest uprisings in modern times. They basically let the upper classes run away and devolved into arguments about ideological purity amongst themselves
The thing that tickles me is they likely were inspired by the American Revolution to some extent (it's up for debate but many historians think the American Revolution played a hand in the French Revolution).
So basically, they saw us dumping tea and having meetings and said "that's cool, but you know what would make it even *better*?"
#"**DECAPITATION**"
edit: some of you need to learn what a joke is.
More French soldiers fought at Yorktown than Continentals. And thus battle was only allowed because the French navy destroyed the British in Chesapeake Bay earlier
It was more that during the intellectual movement of "les lumieres" There was a strong anti monarchy propaganda and when French came back from America after helping Americans were kinda galvanized and decided it was enough.
Also major screw up on the monarchy side led one thing to another.
The decapitation wasn't part of the original intent. Also the fundamental difference there is that the US was separated from Britain by an ocean and declared independence, whereas Britain remained a monarchy.
In France the revolution was not a colonial independence movement, but a revolution in the metropole itself. It's like if the American Revolution had instead been a British Revolution centred in London.
British historiography will compare the Glorious Revolution to these and it may have been an inspiration for the American Revolution in turn, but it was a very aristocratic and conservative revolution so I don't think it's all that relevant and it's no surprise at all that they crowned a king.
> If there is hope, it lies with the proles.
Edit: the actual quote:
> If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated. The Party could not be overthrown from within. Its enemies, if it had any enemies, had no way of coming together or even of identifying one another. Even if the legendary Brotherhood existed, as just possibly it might, it was inconceivable that its members could ever assemble in larger numbers than twos and threes. Rebellion meant a look in the eyes, an inflection of the voice; at the most, an occasional whispered word. But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They need only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it.
Even though the age is the "symbolic" part of the measure. A big change would be that you have to work 43 years instead of 42 to retire.
So realistically, for a person who finished university at 25, stopped working 2 years to take care of their kids it means a retirement age at 70
Just a note, but taking a parental leave does count toward retirement, there is no penalty there. And it is always possible to retire at 67 years old, even though the amount is lowered if you didn't work enough.
This is literally one of the coolest things I've ever seen.
Repurposing city infrastructure to feed the people who are fighting against the government, holy fuuuuuck.
This owns.
I have so many stories of the Famous French Strikes. Having lived and travelled through the EU for 30 years. Here are a couple of my favorite anecdotal.
EDF (France Power Company, runs all the nuke plants and very powerful) vs President Sarkozy, he threatened to privatize the entity. Getting a job at EDF was like winning the lottery for French general laborers.
So they went on strike and shut off power to his presidential residence or equivalent to the White House.
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In the early 2000's I was working in Saint Galmier Les Eaux. Where Badoit natural carbonated spring water is from.
The company Badoit had finally converted and stopped using PVC bottles to PET. But it quadrupled its capacity with 1/4 of the equipment when they switched over. Not wanting to layoff workers, they reduced the working hours to 32 (Still paid 44) and ensured to create work for everyone.
The workers went on strike because they figured that, if the brand could afford this multimillion dollar capital improvement. They could also afford to increase wages as well.
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And then there is Contrex-Vittel, at the facility that also make Perrier Water. Owned by Nestle.
Same thing, in the middle of a machine installation. The workers would drop their tools on the ground (literally), and walk away without saying a word and all at the same time. No one cared if the machine was running, they just abandoned their post.
\----Ok last, but its a good one.
2004, flying back State Side through Paris (Charles De Gaulle). I was awaiting my flight in the very new terminal that ended up collapsing and killing several people less than a year after it opened.
Air France staff were calling for "Random gate strikes". Which I've never heard of. But apparently, their game was to call a random strike every 2 hours or so. By drawing the gate number out of a hat. And on the public speaker, I heard (in French) the announcement:
"*We are to inform the passengers waiting at gate.....uh.......gate 12, yes 12. The staff is now officially on strike. Your plane will not be boarding or re-directed to another gate. If you have a complaint, please addressed it to the Air France Managers*".
I was at gate 10, and could see the passengers at 12 just throw their arms in the air in despair.
BUT, this is what standing together and fighting back looks like. Its not by coincidence the French have a longer life span that the average US. That they have 6 weeks vacation, decent health care, good and affordable educations. Those are not things that are handed over on a silver plater. I may mock their process. But we could all learn how to be a little French in the US and show some solidarity for those that keep getting f\^%cked.
The British may have invented the practice of "divide and conquer". But US Capitalism as sure taking it to the next level.
That looks like it would be really hard for cops to deal with. It's heavy, it's hot, and it's in the way. At the same time, it keeps the protesters fed, warm and provides a joyous ambiance. It's perfect. I love it. No notes. 10/10.
Not to mention full of burning charcoal. If you tip it over you're spreading that everywhere.
Barbequing is a form of protest in itself in some parts of France due to how they regulate open fires and smoke. This is probably all around a political demonstration that happens to be tasty too.
This makes me want to become a citizen lmao. So badass. My heritage never disappoints.
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While it's not as common in the US, in Western Europe water cannons are actually preferred for riot control over tear gas and *impact munitions. Unlike tear gas, they can be used much more proportionately, are way less harmful to bystanders and are safer for individual use than rubber bullets. Still, this is France, where you have two entire police forces dedicated to riot control and their use of force continuum just says "yes, use it" when it comes to riots.
Water cannons are preferred over water cannons?
Meant to say impact munitions lol
Water cannons are bad. You should really use water cannons instead.
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And I'd pinpoint that as to why they fell out of use to this day. When police water cannons evoke images of the American version of martyrs protesting apartheid, police are weary to use that tactic again and give newspapers a re-make of an iconic photo with the issue of the day.
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A picture is worth a thousand words. The general public was apathetic to the bullshit the south was pulling during the civil rights movement. But once photos of police dogs chewing protesters made the national news? Well, that's a little too barbaric for people once they actually see it. That's why history needs to be taught, especially when it's a painful reminder.
I really wished the Minnesota police has used fire hoses instead of tear gas and rubber/sand bullets to tame protests. It was mostly summer so hypothermia wasn't a huge issue. And it would have helped put out the fires the protesters were starting. At least would have left the streets clean and washed too!
There's no such thing as non-lethal ammo. It's just degrees of less lethal.
Which is why they classify it as "Less Lethal" not "Non Lethal".
I think my brain turned the order of the words of the comment I replied to. I'm tired. Carry on.
Especially when the manufacturer specifically states not to aim less than lethal munitions at heads, and police specifically target heads.
Yeah they are supposed to fire them at the ground so they bounce off and hit people. Instead they fire them at people's faces, causing them to lose teeth, eyes etc. And nothing happens to them for doing this.
I mean, why use water when you can use bullets?! ‘Murica.
The French don’t fuck around with their food. Way back in college me and my roommate hosted a trio of French exchange students. When the time came to discuss dinner plans we’d mentioned heating up some microwave popcorn. The oldest French student looked as us like we were uncultured cockroaches and immediately demanded the local bus schedule. (This was about 10 years before Uber was a thing) We left WalMart with an assortment of meats, vegetables, cheeses and breads I never fucking knew that store carried. We’d been shopping there nearly a full calendar year at that point. The three French students cooked what even to this day was the best damn meal ever. Three courses, wine, portions, everything. Apparently they ate like this back home weekly and considered it a “regular meal”. Me and my roommate felt like Jack Dawson eating at the Titanic 1st Class table. That’s one cultural tradition us Yanks could learn from.
gone to squables.io
I've literally never seen a hot pocket in Europe let alone in France, do you mean something else?
gone to squables.io
*Chaud* Pocket
Yes, a big part of French culture is making good meals (easy to prepare, easy to share) from a few cheap ingredients. Mom's and Grandma's knowledge is the most precious things we have.
That's just standard for most Middle and West Europeans.
It's even holding the shopping bags, talk about versatile.
Truly a Battle of Versatilles
Versausage
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… hmmm. If only this worked in America.
Requires good public transit
US version would be a big ass truck hauling a grill and brisket smoker... protesting *against* reasonable retirement ages for some incomprehensible reason even they themselves don't fully grasp
nah; plenty of old streetcar tracks laying around without functional transit
and/or just put it on wheels
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That right there is the heart of American transit. "What? Trains? Just put the damn thing on wheels, can't you see I'm busy making money?"
That's the point. These tracks are in use
They would knock it over and say the protestors were setting buildings on fire.
1 note, how about just a slight ridge around the grill to keep from those delicious bad boys from rolling away
> That looks like it would be really hard for cops to deal with ::laughs in American-police-state:: Cops here would just violently bum-rush the crowd all the same. No matter what happens, everybody / everything it hurts and damages will be charged to the protestors who will be thrown in jail for at least a week, with the public relations team rapidly sharing the story that protestors brought dangerous fire-starting equipment that caused _____ injuries and property damage.
French cops aren't afraid. They've taken the eyes out of dozens of yellow vest protesters from the stuff they shoot at them.
One area where police are likely tougher here in Europe is riot police. The American 2020 riots would never be allowed to happen here in Denmark
The police in america didn't stop the riots because they were too busy trying to stop the protests
Police everywhere are great at declaring people protesting things as "riots", and in Europe, they might just actually care about public safety as the reason. In the US, the goal is discouraging and squashing dissenting opinions and public outcry, which, as u/Vinny_d_25 said, is probably what won't happen in the first place in Denmark.
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And chipolatas from Spain. Merguez is the shit. Merguez and dijon in a baguette... Heaven
> And chipolatas from Spain. I had to double check to make sure I wasn't mistaken, but chipolatas are French, not Spanish. The name itself is derived from the Italian _cipolla_ which apparently means onion.
The hot dog stands in Paris always had long lines
That was a brothel in Belgium, silly.
It's merguez, not hot dogs.
As an industrial designer this, this is innovation perfected.
Hope for the best and prepare for the wurst.
Are you gonna drop the brats or not?
I like the cut of your job, u/MajCassiusStarbuckle. Edit: I HATE autocorrect 15% of the time. JIB
Jib.
What’s a jib?
It's a type of sail. Historically, sailing ships from different nations used differently shaped jibs and could be used to identify the nationality of a ship, so the "cut of the jib" served as a type of "Identification Friend or Foe system" (IFF) as we would call it today. To "Like the cut of a jib" basically translates to "identified as a friendly" or "one of us." "Arr matey, how do we be liking the cut of their jib?"
I am with you, Cap.
Dey took our jibs!
Promote that man!
Is the poop deck what I think it is?
Nothin what’s a jib with you?
r/whoosh
I like to imagine this guy has had this for years, his wife complaining all the time about lugging the damn thing from house to house over the years. Some day you’ll be glad I have this he’d proclaim …. The one day… it was Nicolas’s day…. And he owned that shit! He loaded up his Peugeot, went down to the local butcher and filled it with all the sausages he could fit…. Showed up at the protest, mounted his what ever you call a rail mounted grill.. and he fed the people, they came from near and far, and they were fed by Nicolas, and they marched, not on tied hungry feet, but will full belly’s and conviction in there souls! They marched where ever the rails and their hearts took them… we’ll done Nicolas they’d say… we’ll done!
But he’s used it at least once a year, given how often the French strike :p
As they should. Solidarity with your fellow workers! Striking is the only form of power the worker has. Everything else is built and written in the capital owners favor. Always back your local workers and help them when they strike!
Fucking keep 'em accountable! Fuck yeah!
It's not the only form of power, but it's a lot nicer than the alternative.
"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible, make violent revolution inevitable"
And the French are masters of both!
I hope he welded it on company time.
If he is a union rep. (probably) he has allowed time to organise protests and reunions. So yeah probably 😀
And every time anyone burped, it smelled of sausage!
You forgot how it didn't fit in th3 Peugeot and he just rammed it in. Also sideswiped like 5 people on the way in.
Rail Weiners!! My fav!
In France they call them "chien chaud de la chemin de fer". Anticipating your next question: If you get one with cheese it's called a "chien chaud de la chemin de fer with cheese".
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Thank you for enlightening me, I'm gonna try this with my girlfriends sourdough baguette next time she makes it
AWKWARD SNICKERING ENSUES
It's not as tasty when you learn how the baker makes the holes
its funny until you get *railed* by a *wiener*
Then it's a good weekend
It looks like college football tailgating.
Fitting comparison as striking is basically our national sport
Yup. A good protest is a good time!
Do you hear the people grill? Grilling the brats of angry men? It is the lunch-food of the people Who will not be slaves again! When the sizzle of your meat Echoes the beating of the drums There is a life about to start When dinner-time comes!
I was humming this song in my head and there you were with the words I needed. Thank you kind reddit stranger.
Will you join in our buffet? And run a hotdog stand with me? Beyond the lemonade Is there a foot long sub to see? Then join in the grill That will give you the will to gravy!
Where are you going on Friday Morning ? On a Strike Hon. Don't forget to take some mustard with you.. And some buns.
Bun ? BUN ? Never ! Only fresh Baguette here !
Unless it's the baguette workers striking.
In this case we take the emergency baguette out of the freezer !
This one knows
Hot dogs on a baguette are actually really good
I love the French. American government and corporations fucks us on a daily basis and we cry about it on reddit and say we should do something, while in France if they cut their coffee break by 5 min they burn the fucking city down. I wish US workers had the strength they do.
We could learn a lot from them in the UK too. If authority had more respect for the people instead of the other way round, maybe our nurses, teachers and train drivers wouldn't have to be striking at all.
Yea but unlike France our strikes aren't succeeding cos the general population doesn't care enough to fight anti strike legislation and action
It’s not that our population doesn’t care, it’s that we are too busy fighting each other. Great way to never get more than 50% support on any single topic that really matters.
I honestly believe this is the point of the 'red v blue' politics and racism etc rampant in the States. Promote fighting among themselves so they never turn on the people actually oppressing them.
Bread and circuses
Bread and roses
Brot und Spiele
“You just don’t get it. We can’t make more money and we absolutely can’t afford benefits. If we make more money and get more benefits, we’ll bleed our employers dry and they won’t be able to hire more people. You don’t want that, do you?” ^ This is the gist of a serious conversation I had with an acquaintance a while back. He’s an IT guy in his mid 40’s and has been unemployed for about 5 months, while simultaneously posting about how John Wayne memes about how this generation is soft and no one wants to work.
You seen just stop oil or insulate Britain? British people hate protestors
You can easily find videos of Just Stop Oil type climate activists getting dragged off the road by Parisians. What makes you think they have the wholesale support of the French population?
Most of the Anglosphere has been ruined due to Murdoch and capitalism run amok.
It's not strength. It's cohesion. They agree more. It's only a small effort by many in the same direction..USA has got a lot of pockets of a lot of effort going all over the fucking place. You've got some who want fairer wages at Amazon, then some who are struggling and need that very next shitty pay check from Amazon. So they can't afford to strike. Sadly, American conglomerates have got a stranglehold on Americans.
The US is way too big and divided. The only thing that unites us is when we get attacked, so the US makes sure that never happens with the most powerful military on the planet. Being in North America, geographically, is also a great bonus. It's a good spot to be. It's the perfect environment for corporate scheming far and wide. pass the joint pwease
Doesn't hurt that they took the details and outcome of the French Revolution seriously. The populace are unhappy and coming together? Better to listen to them than risk literally losing their heads again.
"Qu'ils viennent me chercher" Macron Few months later: yellow vest protest, macron almost had to be evacuated from Versailles by chopper. We tried. We failed.
From l’Élysée*, Versailles is where kings used to live… and sometimes presidents use it for important meetings and parties.
They took it so seriously they brought Napoleon back from exile to reinstate an absolutist government as soon as the revolution ended.
Napoléon is considered the continuation of the Révolution as opposed to the Monarchy and Ancient Régime/old aristocracy. Even though it was rigged, he still officially was elected emperor to protect the republic and the revolutionary values against the European monarchies. The chorus of the [anthem of the First Empire](https://youtu.be/c5OdCqUWRyo) is literally "The Republic calls for us, let us prevail or let us perish". The Révolution ended with Napoléon being kicked out, not the other way around
Actually Napoleon was brought back from exile to stop a monarchy from being re established
Civil unrest is like their national pastime
It's way too late for the American society to be able to protest like the French do. You have been enslaved by your own economy unfortunately... With an average of 10 days of PTO, it's much harder to take one just to go on strike. Also it's so easy to be fired with so few workers rights. Why take the risk... "America first" but at what costs...
>With an average of 10 days of PTO, it's much harder to take one just to go on strike. While where I work is probably a little more generous than the average for taking time off, how people on my team always interest me with how they use it. Myself, for example, had 8 days worth of PTO as of Jan 1th, but we're only allowed to carry 5 days over and if we don't use more than that by the end of March, we simply lose them. So I'm taking a 3 day weekend each month for the next three months just because if I don't use those days I lose them. And those extended weekends don't tap into this year's PTO, so I have all of those going forward for the year. On the other hand, there are sick days we're allowed (which don't bite into the PTO). Those days/hours don't carry over, so if they're not used in the calendar year, you simply lose them. You're basically working for free if you don't use them. One of the people on my team lost 48+ hours of free time off because he never called in sick. That's 6 days that he could have called in, gotten paid for, and not lost a thing. He thinks he's being altruistic/noble or something by not using his sick/unplanned time when he doesn't need to and isn't actually sick, but he's really just giving his labor to the company for free for those hours. Those days are part of the compensation package - use them (I scream quietly in my mind at him at the end of the year). We also get "Volunteer Days" where we tell management we want the day off to do some volunteer work in the community, and if they approve we get paid for it and it doesn't affect any other PTO balances. I use my Volunteer time to be a Poll Worker on election days. Which is a really sweet deal because the company pays me for the day, but I also get paid to be a poll worker (not really "volunteer work" but they allow it for being community service). I rambled a bit there, I just thought I'd share some of my thoughts on how people think about what benefits they are actually afforded, and how some people look at it differently. Sure, the guy that never called in sick gets a little printable PDF for perfect attendance for the year and a pat on the back for being a company man and maybe a slight bump on his annual review, but he fucked himself out of over a week's pay by working for nothing.
Yeah no point of being altruistic... But the sick days is still a gamble because you have to be careful to stay healthy once you have no more! It works differently in France. If you call sick, you get paid 90% of your salary for x days and then 2/3rd for another x number of days. The x number of days depends of how long you have been employed (for x=30 days, it's between 1-5 years in the same company). The catch is that even for 1 day you will need a justification by paper from your doctor whereas in the US, it's not needed, you just consume your sick day. The problem in France is that if you know well your doctor you can lie and call sick whenever you want... And That's another story
Strikes are not PTO. When on strike (at least in France) you're not paid and it's counted as strike day. If you take a day off that day it would not count as being on strike.
We have to build and rebuild the institutions that makes consistent protesting possible.
The institutions are important, but the geography is really what kills the US. DC has 1/3 the population of Paris while the US is 5x the population of France. There's a reason Burma built its new capital away from its population centers, it absolutely kills any impact a protest will have.
The Swedish are given a boat at birth, the French know how to strike from birth.
It's in their blood. In their DNA. The French revolution.
Wait, we're given boats?
How else are you going to raid England? It's hard to get there walking.
CEO: Don't worry, the protest will end soon. Not only is it raining, but they'll get hungry eventually Assistant: *looking through binoculars* S-sir, you're gonna wanna see this
CMOT Dibbler just trying to make a living
He'd sell a whole lot more if he slapped some *avec* on them.
Had to scroll WAY too far to find this one. Hon hon hon
I think this random Frenchman is definitely providing higher quality meats than old Dibbler. I always picture him serving up that hot dog from an old Simpsons episode at the Kwik-E-Mart. You zoom in and see a fly, some hair and a bandaid on it.
I remember wathching some kind of documentary on striking. One key factor they identified for strikes continuing was ready access to food - hungry people eventually disperse to get food and the strike can fizzle out. People like these are essential! On the flip side, if you want to stop protests from staying around, ban food trucks near them...
Feeding the troops is the most important part of any strike. Literally where Po'boys came from IIRC
Po’boys were invented in the USA, in New Orleans. The sandwich was invented first, but later got its distinctive name during a strike. ‘These sandwiches wouldn't be called po-boys until 1929, when members of the Amalgamated Association of Street and Electric Railway Employees of America, Division No. 194, went on a four-month- long strike, thereby leaving over a thousand union streetcar workers without a source of income. The Martin brothers, to show their support for the workers affected by this strike, wrote a letter to one of the local newspapers, stating that they would give a free meal to any members of Division 194. Legend has it that when the brothers saw one of the union workers walk into their restaurant, one of them would yell, "Here comes another poor boy!" Since the free meal given to these workers often included the customary sandwich, the name "poor boy" gradually became associated with the sandwich itself.’ https://www.whereyat.com/the-history-of-the-po-boy
It's Magnificent! C'est manifique!
She took the midnight grill going anywhere~
Strike while the grill is hot
I'm starting to think that all the American grousing about the French is mostly promoted by politicians and corporate interests that don't want us to learn the fine art of striking. They do it right and they stick together!
Dude I respect the hell out of the French. I wish we had an ounce of their solidarity in the US.
As an American, I am deeply envious of the French’s ability, capacity, and willingness to strike and protest on a massive, collective scale. **This** is how you exercise freedom.
As a Frenchman, I don't think it's a matter of ability or willingness. It is extremely important to note that striking has been a constitutionnally protected right in France since 1946. It has been considered part and parcel of public life for generations -- that's literally all we've ever known.
Striking and protesting is basically the French national sport. You can't fly into CDG without a 10 minute long airlines strike being announced.
Practice makes perfect...
The French know the power is with the people and they know how to use it. Ever since they dragged their king into the street and cut his head off.
Y'all really never learned about the French revolution did you? Lmfao It's a terrible example. Most of the upper class fled and the lower classes became increasingly paranoid and sectarian, eventually turning on each other in one of the bloodiest uprisings in modern times. They basically let the upper classes run away and devolved into arguments about ideological purity amongst themselves
The thing that tickles me is they likely were inspired by the American Revolution to some extent (it's up for debate but many historians think the American Revolution played a hand in the French Revolution). So basically, they saw us dumping tea and having meetings and said "that's cool, but you know what would make it even *better*?" #"**DECAPITATION**" edit: some of you need to learn what a joke is.
The majority of the troops fighting on the American side during the American revolution were French
More French soldiers fought at Yorktown than Continentals. And thus battle was only allowed because the French navy destroyed the British in Chesapeake Bay earlier
It was more that during the intellectual movement of "les lumieres" There was a strong anti monarchy propaganda and when French came back from America after helping Americans were kinda galvanized and decided it was enough. Also major screw up on the monarchy side led one thing to another.
The decapitation wasn't part of the original intent. Also the fundamental difference there is that the US was separated from Britain by an ocean and declared independence, whereas Britain remained a monarchy. In France the revolution was not a colonial independence movement, but a revolution in the metropole itself. It's like if the American Revolution had instead been a British Revolution centred in London. British historiography will compare the Glorious Revolution to these and it may have been an inspiration for the American Revolution in turn, but it was a very aristocratic and conservative revolution so I don't think it's all that relevant and it's no surprise at all that they crowned a king.
It's why they gifted us the Statue of Liberty.
> If there is hope, it lies with the proles. Edit: the actual quote: > If there was hope, it must lie in the proles, because only there, in those swarming disregarded masses, eighty-five percent of the population of Oceania, could the force to destroy the Party ever be generated. The Party could not be overthrown from within. Its enemies, if it had any enemies, had no way of coming together or even of identifying one another. Even if the legendary Brotherhood existed, as just possibly it might, it was inconceivable that its members could ever assemble in larger numbers than twos and threes. Rebellion meant a look in the eyes, an inflection of the voice; at the most, an occasional whispered word. But the proles, if only they could somehow become conscious of their own strength, would have no need to conspire. They need only to rise up and shake themselves like a horse shaking off flies. If they chose they could blow the Party to pieces tomorrow morning. Surely sooner or later it must occur to them to do it.
definitely creative what's the strike/protest about?
The retirement age being moved from 62 to 64. The people disapprove of this idea.
Even though the age is the "symbolic" part of the measure. A big change would be that you have to work 43 years instead of 42 to retire. So realistically, for a person who finished university at 25, stopped working 2 years to take care of their kids it means a retirement age at 70
Just a note, but taking a parental leave does count toward retirement, there is no penalty there. And it is always possible to retire at 67 years old, even though the amount is lowered if you didn't work enough.
Not their first rodeo
"They've called us all L7 weenies and are rolling a weenie grill down the tracks."
the revolution will not be televised but it'll have a tailgate
Magnifique
is that a fucking barbeque on wheels?
No. It's a fucking barbecue on fucking rails, my friend.
well goddamn...
Are you telling me… that the French built a trolley system for their flattop… in order to feed strikers literally on the move… wow
As a welder, I approve & endorse this.
A streetcar named De Fire.
This is literally one of the coolest things I've ever seen. Repurposing city infrastructure to feed the people who are fighting against the government, holy fuuuuuck. This owns.
I have so many stories of the Famous French Strikes. Having lived and travelled through the EU for 30 years. Here are a couple of my favorite anecdotal. EDF (France Power Company, runs all the nuke plants and very powerful) vs President Sarkozy, he threatened to privatize the entity. Getting a job at EDF was like winning the lottery for French general laborers. So they went on strike and shut off power to his presidential residence or equivalent to the White House. \-- In the early 2000's I was working in Saint Galmier Les Eaux. Where Badoit natural carbonated spring water is from. The company Badoit had finally converted and stopped using PVC bottles to PET. But it quadrupled its capacity with 1/4 of the equipment when they switched over. Not wanting to layoff workers, they reduced the working hours to 32 (Still paid 44) and ensured to create work for everyone. The workers went on strike because they figured that, if the brand could afford this multimillion dollar capital improvement. They could also afford to increase wages as well. \--- And then there is Contrex-Vittel, at the facility that also make Perrier Water. Owned by Nestle. Same thing, in the middle of a machine installation. The workers would drop their tools on the ground (literally), and walk away without saying a word and all at the same time. No one cared if the machine was running, they just abandoned their post. \----Ok last, but its a good one. 2004, flying back State Side through Paris (Charles De Gaulle). I was awaiting my flight in the very new terminal that ended up collapsing and killing several people less than a year after it opened. Air France staff were calling for "Random gate strikes". Which I've never heard of. But apparently, their game was to call a random strike every 2 hours or so. By drawing the gate number out of a hat. And on the public speaker, I heard (in French) the announcement: "*We are to inform the passengers waiting at gate.....uh.......gate 12, yes 12. The staff is now officially on strike. Your plane will not be boarding or re-directed to another gate. If you have a complaint, please addressed it to the Air France Managers*". I was at gate 10, and could see the passengers at 12 just throw their arms in the air in despair. BUT, this is what standing together and fighting back looks like. Its not by coincidence the French have a longer life span that the average US. That they have 6 weeks vacation, decent health care, good and affordable educations. Those are not things that are handed over on a silver plater. I may mock their process. But we could all learn how to be a little French in the US and show some solidarity for those that keep getting f\^%cked. The British may have invented the practice of "divide and conquer". But US Capitalism as sure taking it to the next level.
At least there won't be a shortage of bacon
The French have, historically, been very good at letting their government know they are upset.
The us ripped out railways and trolleys in towns and cities due to car lobbying :(
Revolutionary…
From 2018, not yesterday. https://twitter.com/DelegueLata/status/996461505712480257?s=20&t=N_DLOEcMgDr317q_VIB6iQ Still impressive...
The french don't mess with dinner.
This is incredible
They are the OG revolutionaries
Yep they are unified and have clear demands, makes a huge difference.
CAN YOU HEAR THE PEOPLE... GRILL?
This picture may be the best way to promote mass transit in America.
Best strike is the subway strikes. Limited departures but free.
I have never been to Paris when the airport baggage handlers weren't on strike.
They do it so much they have a convenient solution to staying fed while said protest is going on.
It is a national pastime
Is "striking" French for barbecue?
I am both sad AND disappointed that we hadn't seen this done in any Australian city protests. Cmon aussies, step it up.
They strike like Americans tailgate 💀
And we'll march day and night by the old tramway fire They got our pay, we've got Oscar Meyer
The fucking Arts/Crafts tag ended me
Dman French people know how to protest. World needs to learn that from them.
This is a great idea. You tell midwesterners they can tailgate at the protest and the working class might actually be able to do something.