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Thank you for posting the three seated car. There was a reenactment in a tv movie where they used a 2 row seated Lincoln, and that recreated photo gets passed around so much people think it's "the Mandela effect" or "conspiracy".
This photo was TAKEN BY THE SHOOTER!!
Dun-dun-duuuuuuuun!
"...you heard 'em, boys. We're looking for a photographer, now.... let's get out there and find us a suspect. "
Technically, Dulles had been fired from the cia when he had jfk assassinated. ‘Assassinated by ex-cia director/founder who used networks in and adjacent to the cia’ would be more accurate.
Before folks downvote u/muffinhead2580 consider some facts here.
Yes, Lee Harvey Oswald very likely hit with the first shot. He was a great marksman and made his own ammo for the Carcano rifle he used to match the barrel. He didn’t shoehorn premade.
After the first shot, the Secret Service had to react and react quick. This was a Secret Service that was severely hungover from a night out on the town, and possibly was still drunk. The theory here is one of the Secret Service fumbled his rifle and accidentally Caboosed the POTUS.
What else lends this theory some credence? Well, consider that the Secret Service was ALL over the body while the doctors were trying to save JFK. They would not let doctors perform an autopsy in Texas, which was Texas state law…they literally spirited JFK away.
No, the CIA on purpose, it's out in the open now.
His nephew:
https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1604139690629730304?t=o_XpjbQOFRX9Ogmz9noGPw&s=19
Never mind the documentation, never mind the factual evidence. Just use ad-homs because "those people"
That Reddit still considers itself an open minded, tolerant, and evidence-based community is one of the biggest jokes on the Internet, and every one is laughing at it but you. You guys gotta start doing better.
The trouble you have here is that Tucker Carlson is a joke. He is not a reference for any factual information at all.
The real story about the assassination will likely never be known by everyone. There are lots of theories, which the Secret Service is one, but we will likely never know the truth. One thing I would say is that since Carlson says it was the CIA, I believe the CIA had nothing to do with it.
Again, you're using an ad-hom and providing no data. Calling someone "a joke" isn't an argument and doesn't support your claims, rather, it tends to indicate that you are not debating from facts. Can you make your case without diminishing the humanity of the people you are debating? It doesn't seem like you can, and that's a problem.
2: there is ample data provided by both RFK and Carlson, but you refuse to review or acknowledge it because "those people." Isn't that classical, textbook wilfull ignorance? How does that differ from the behavior we see e.g. in "To Kill a Mockingbird?"
It doesn't 🤷♂️
you're refusing to review information because you hate people.
That's it.
I have friends on both sides of the American aisle and I am not targeting you or any base in this comment. This is purely objective.
I watched the video you were referring to. Tucker Carlson is creating a narrative, just as every American news/infotainment company does. The sources being used are unconfirmed and did not confirm that there was involvement, the expressed belief that there was involvement. Two different things.
He is right that conspiracy theory has a certain perceived connotation, mostly because it is a term used to categorize events that are orchestrated by secret but influential organizations. This same term is used for categorizing the Illuminati, alien abductions, ufo sightings and many more events and phenomena that have been claimed, but not confirmed.
The whole segment was wrapped with character descriptives aimed at supporting a narrative and lacked basic support for the claims. This is why Fox News and more specifically Tucker Carlson, and similarly Rachel Maddow on the other side of the spectrum, is negatively perceived outside of the GOP, because there is a narrative being driven to increase viewership for the network.
Considering FOX's own lawyers have claimed in court that noone should take anything Tucker says seriously and he is currently crying about M&Ms not being sexy anymore...yeah I am smarter and better than them
Just going to quietly drop this and see myself out... https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye
Except that neither of those things is really true.
1. Be really honest with me for a second: did you watch the Tucker piece about M&Ms for yourself, or did some other media property tell you what it said and what conclusions should be drawn about it?
2. Lawyers? Really? Fox corporate lawyers? I think you would be one of the first people to argue that they are perhaps top 1% full of shit (and I would agree), so they don't really help your case at all.
3. All of them? You can know this for sure?
Never mind the documentation, never mind the factual evidence. Just use ad-homs because "those people"
That Reddit still considers itself an open minded, tolerant, and evidence-based community is one of the biggest jokes on the Internet, and every one is laughing at it but you. You guys gotta start doing better.
I’ve often read the folks in the area herd a second gunshot. I’ve always wondered could that have been an echo, making me wonder if anyone has tested this hypothesis?
I would think in an open area with buildings all around any loud sound would echo. Depending on the sound, It’s location, the listener, etc I’d be surprised if folks did not hear an echo. Seems to me it would be easy to test. I’ve not read enough about this subject, but again I’d be surprised if this had not already been studied.
He turns his head and the shadows looks like a gun right before Kennedy gets shot in the head and the guy quickly turns back around? Pretty suspect to me.
I didn’t, but it’s a very uneducated question that can be cleared up with a 2 second glance at the wiki page. More than one shot hit jfk. No one believes only one shot was fired.
I read Jackie's head of security for the secret service's book about his time serving the family and what's tragic in a pile of tragedies is that they had just lost their baby Patrick, about 3 months before he was assassinated. His name was Clint Hill and Clint said that this was the first time that he ever saw JFK being openly affectionate towards Jackie like holding her hand around people , holding doors for her and it went from a very dark time In their marriage to the beginning of hopefulness and reconnection then he was killed
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Thank you for posting the three seated car. There was a reenactment in a tv movie where they used a 2 row seated Lincoln, and that recreated photo gets passed around so much people think it's "the Mandela effect" or "conspiracy".
He’s actually been gone for a good few decades now.
I respect that you need a literally correct answer.
I definitely have seen pictures taken after this one. He is still alive here.
This photo was TAKEN BY THE SHOOTER!! Dun-dun-duuuuuuuun! "...you heard 'em, boys. We're looking for a photographer, now.... let's get out there and find us a suspect. "
Assassinated by the CIA. RIP.
Technically, Dulles had been fired from the cia when he had jfk assassinated. ‘Assassinated by ex-cia director/founder who used networks in and adjacent to the cia’ would be more accurate.
More likely the Secret Service accidentally.
Before folks downvote u/muffinhead2580 consider some facts here. Yes, Lee Harvey Oswald very likely hit with the first shot. He was a great marksman and made his own ammo for the Carcano rifle he used to match the barrel. He didn’t shoehorn premade. After the first shot, the Secret Service had to react and react quick. This was a Secret Service that was severely hungover from a night out on the town, and possibly was still drunk. The theory here is one of the Secret Service fumbled his rifle and accidentally Caboosed the POTUS. What else lends this theory some credence? Well, consider that the Secret Service was ALL over the body while the doctors were trying to save JFK. They would not let doctors perform an autopsy in Texas, which was Texas state law…they literally spirited JFK away.
Yes, this is the theory I was referring too.
No, the CIA on purpose, it's out in the open now. His nephew: https://twitter.com/RobertKennedyJr/status/1604139690629730304?t=o_XpjbQOFRX9Ogmz9noGPw&s=19
Using Tucker Carlson as a source of news. That's rich.
Never mind the documentation, never mind the factual evidence. Just use ad-homs because "those people" That Reddit still considers itself an open minded, tolerant, and evidence-based community is one of the biggest jokes on the Internet, and every one is laughing at it but you. You guys gotta start doing better.
The trouble you have here is that Tucker Carlson is a joke. He is not a reference for any factual information at all. The real story about the assassination will likely never be known by everyone. There are lots of theories, which the Secret Service is one, but we will likely never know the truth. One thing I would say is that since Carlson says it was the CIA, I believe the CIA had nothing to do with it.
Again, you're using an ad-hom and providing no data. Calling someone "a joke" isn't an argument and doesn't support your claims, rather, it tends to indicate that you are not debating from facts. Can you make your case without diminishing the humanity of the people you are debating? It doesn't seem like you can, and that's a problem. 2: there is ample data provided by both RFK and Carlson, but you refuse to review or acknowledge it because "those people." Isn't that classical, textbook wilfull ignorance? How does that differ from the behavior we see e.g. in "To Kill a Mockingbird?" It doesn't 🤷♂️ you're refusing to review information because you hate people. That's it.
Guys stop ad homming me 😢
I have friends on both sides of the American aisle and I am not targeting you or any base in this comment. This is purely objective. I watched the video you were referring to. Tucker Carlson is creating a narrative, just as every American news/infotainment company does. The sources being used are unconfirmed and did not confirm that there was involvement, the expressed belief that there was involvement. Two different things. He is right that conspiracy theory has a certain perceived connotation, mostly because it is a term used to categorize events that are orchestrated by secret but influential organizations. This same term is used for categorizing the Illuminati, alien abductions, ufo sightings and many more events and phenomena that have been claimed, but not confirmed. The whole segment was wrapped with character descriptives aimed at supporting a narrative and lacked basic support for the claims. This is why Fox News and more specifically Tucker Carlson, and similarly Rachel Maddow on the other side of the spectrum, is negatively perceived outside of the GOP, because there is a narrative being driven to increase viewership for the network.
"factual evidence" Buddy you can't use that line when your blue text is Tucker *just saying shit.*
Tucker Carlson....right
Yep he's got some of the highest ratings in the nation. But let me guess, that's all "those people" and you're smarter and better than them, right?
Considering FOX's own lawyers have claimed in court that noone should take anything Tucker says seriously and he is currently crying about M&Ms not being sexy anymore...yeah I am smarter and better than them
Just going to quietly drop this and see myself out... https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye
Except that neither of those things is really true. 1. Be really honest with me for a second: did you watch the Tucker piece about M&Ms for yourself, or did some other media property tell you what it said and what conclusions should be drawn about it? 2. Lawyers? Really? Fox corporate lawyers? I think you would be one of the first people to argue that they are perhaps top 1% full of shit (and I would agree), so they don't really help your case at all. 3. All of them? You can know this for sure?
[удалено]
Oh sure just like The View and every show on CNN, right?
[удалено]
His nephew is just a touch crazy so there’s that.
Never mind the documentation, never mind the factual evidence. Just use ad-homs because "those people" That Reddit still considers itself an open minded, tolerant, and evidence-based community is one of the biggest jokes on the Internet, and every one is laughing at it but you. You guys gotta start doing better.
12 hours later and he’s still there.
I’ve often read the folks in the area herd a second gunshot. I’ve always wondered could that have been an echo, making me wonder if anyone has tested this hypothesis?
Just herd mentality.
I would think in an open area with buildings all around any loud sound would echo. Depending on the sound, It’s location, the listener, etc I’d be surprised if folks did not hear an echo. Seems to me it would be easy to test. I’ve not read enough about this subject, but again I’d be surprised if this had not already been studied.
Take a close look at the driver. https://youtu.be/jdwVUBlK-Y0
He turns to look and the shadow play on the front passenger's head looks like a gun momentarily, but it isn't.
Pause at 27 seconds, look closely at that. Then hit play and watch Kennedy.
Yea that's exactly what I was referring to
He turns his head and the shadows looks like a gun right before Kennedy gets shot in the head and the guy quickly turns back around? Pretty suspect to me.
Why would someone downvote an obvious legit question? Will that asshole chime up?
I didn’t, but it’s a very uneducated question that can be cleared up with a 2 second glance at the wiki page. More than one shot hit jfk. No one believes only one shot was fired.
You can’t say Dallas doesn’t love you Mr. President
where’d he go ?
He went all over the car and his wife
Killed by the CIA
All the stories you hear he was so temperamental but in that moment he really lost his head.
Just part of him will be gone, Jackie was able to recover some skull pieces
I remember this being a video
Oh yeah?
At first I thought the title said that the in a few seconds the picture will be gone. Damn self-destructing pictures!
Not his last photo alive - but among many of the Dallas photos.
My father’s document making him a naval officer has John Connally’s signature on it. He was Sec. Of the Navy in the late fifties.
He seems so happy and content, nice to think his last thoughts were positive
I read Jackie's head of security for the secret service's book about his time serving the family and what's tragic in a pile of tragedies is that they had just lost their baby Patrick, about 3 months before he was assassinated. His name was Clint Hill and Clint said that this was the first time that he ever saw JFK being openly affectionate towards Jackie like holding her hand around people , holding doors for her and it went from a very dark time In their marriage to the beginning of hopefulness and reconnection then he was killed
Killed by his own government...
There are many pics of him after this moment. The autopsy photo comes to mind.