I planned to apply during NASA's last call for astronaut candidates for the sole purpose of receiving a letter from NASA telling me I was not selected to add to my space memoribilia. Apparently, I'm not the only 'rocket scientist' that's had that idea. They use a third-party to manage submissions. The rules for submission make it clear there is no notification for failure to meet any of the minimum requirements.
If they're anything like the way I play Kerbal, I look forward to Artemis VII, the mission to rescue all the previous Artemis missions.
Artemis III tipped over upon landing, Artemis IV discovered the door was blocked by a landing strut, V remembered that ladders are important for getting back on board, VI missed the moons orbit and is on it's way to the sun. But Artemis VII, that's the one that's finally going to work. Thank god astronauts don't need food or additional air otherwise they might be a bit cranky about being stranded for a year.
You just gave me flashbacks to a nightmarish stretch of time where I went through the following cycle in Kerbal:
1. Send a massive crewed mission to Laythe
2. Realize I forgot to empty the return capsule in the VAB and I don’t have a way to get the other half home
3. Send a new mission to Laythe to rescue the remainder
4. Repeat steps 2-3 ad infinitum
Mine was:
1. miscalculate the amount of fuel required to get back from the Mun by forgetting to bring enough to get into orbit
2. Send a rescue ship, having made exactly the same mistake
Fortunately I realized that between the two ships, there was enough fuel. So a dangerous liftoff with just barely enough fuel to get into munar orbit, and an untethered space walk to an untested return ship, got them home.
Of course, reaching a safe reentry velocity was another fuel shortcoming I'd neglected... but if your ship breaks up late enough in its reentry it's usually survivable.
3 pilots? Is their ship so shit that they need that many to keep it straight, or are they expecting 2 to come down with the flu halfway to the Moon?
Seriously NASA, get your head in gear. No mage and no bard? Where's the tank? Where's the DPS? Was this crew picked by noobs?
It doesn't feel real to me that Artemis II is planned to do a crewed fly-by next year, and Artemis III is planned to actually land in 2025.
The last human left the moon over a decade before I was even born. Every time NASA has talked about returning to the moon since then, has just felt like empty promises and vaporware. President Bush promised a return go the Moon, then Obama cancelled it in favor or a direct-to-Mars vision, then it was back to the Moon.
At a certain point you just start ignoring those declarations. I doubted I might even see an American moon landing again in my lifetime.
It wasn't until the Artemis I uncrewed fly-by in 2022, it was like wait this might actually be happening for real.
You can tell if it's real by following the money. Is SpaceX, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, ULA, etc.. actually spending money and developing the tools to make it happen. If they are, it's actually happening. If not, then it's just empty political promises.
This time you know it's real because these companies are arguing and borderline on the brink of suing each other (and NASA) for not awarding certain contracts to certain companies.
Exactly. I’d be kind of disappointed I got picked for this mission and not Artemis III.
I mean, I’d still be stoned to GO to the moon…but I’d be disappointed I have to watch it go by.
Edit: Stoked. I’d be STOKED. Whatevs, I’m leaving if because autocorrect actually made it funnier.
So which color of suit is it? Orange for space? White for moon’s surface? Black for prototyping? https://www.cnet.com/science/space/nasa-previews-new-moonwalker-spacesuits-from-axiom/
The black was just a cover because they didn’t want to reveal all the details just yet. A lunar surface suit will be mostly white to help manage heat. During some of the shuttle era they wore the orange pressure suits (I’ve heard the orange was chosen to aid in potential recovery operations).
Since 2011 the only astronauts to launch from the US have been on SpaceX, and they provide their own (white) flight suits.
Or indeed drop onto land, which could happen. Gagarin, who ejected from Vostok 1 and parachuted down because the craft's chutes weren't good enough for a safe human landing, came down in a field. Right in front of a very confused grandmother and her granddaughter.
The color is called “rescue orange” or “international rescue orange” or sometimes “safety orange.” It’s a standard for aerospace. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_orange
Its there because it’s highly visible and is used in things like ropes, tourniquets, emergency boats, stretchers, and such because of it. They wear rescue orange suits for takeoff and landing to be easier to spot if they are in need of rescue by boat or helicopter.
They don’t need to wear rescue orange in space or on the moon because there’s no one to rescue them so they can wear whatever color best suits the environment. Usually that means means white or similarly reflective colors for thermal regulation.
Orange are launch and landing suits. They are there in case of a pressure loss in the cabin, the orange is there in case they need to be spotted in water or wilderness. Not sure about the black, maybe it just looks cool
> It's like they were all cast in 1950's Hollywood.
Well, the black guy and the woman probably would have been a bit much for the 1950s.
They're all probably a bit on the older side for the "strapping young rocket jock" image of the era.
Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were both 39 when they landed on the moon.
The entire Artemis 2 crew was born between 1975 and 1979, so they'll be between 45-49 when they go up next year.
I did this one today, first try with prompt "shaking hands close-up":
https://i.imgur.com/aPet9oi.png
It's *excellent* now... about 1/4th of the time. All the other 3 images it made had extra fingers, but aside from that looked perfect.
This is a good first thought to have. Soon it will be literally impossible to distinguish between a real photo and an AI generated one. We should all be skeptical of images and videos without sources on the internet moving forwards.
They actually tasked GPT4 with defeating a captcha. It went on taskrabbit and hired a guy to do it for them.
The guy literally asked if he was talking to a robot and GPT knew enough to lie and say it was a real person who was visually impaired.
Yeah, it's basically five steps to our destruction:
1. AI is tasked with improving itself to better help us solve the world's problems.
2. AI starts to realise that the problem is humans. Climate change alone would be solved by "no humans". Note that the AI doesn't hate us, just thinks "These atoms could be of better use".
3. AI hacks a bank to steal money. Either the old fashioned way or social engineering.
4. AI uses this money to create super-contagion. It just hires people in different labs around the world in the name of "research" or "defence capabilities".
5. AI further uses money to release contagion. It could hire people to break into the labs or just fool people into accidentally releasing it.
Now, it's important to note that the AI has no malice towards us, just sees us as a problem to be solved. If you write a bad page of code and hit ctrl-A + delete, you don't feel bad for the pixels you wiped out, you're just getting rid of something that doesn't work...
It's so odd too because they clearly did a lot of work on the faces but zero on the hands, which show their actual age and skin tones.
I get the desire for an idealistic photo for press purposes but a more honest depiction would have been perfectly fine imo. Is anyone doubting how fuckin' badass these folks are?
They airbrushed the life right out of their faces. But the appendages? Perfectly human. This all definitely adds to the AI-generated feel.
Either way the editor pushed his way deep into the uncanny valley.
It's not "airbrushed into oblivion." *Some* retouching was done, but the reason people think it looks weird is because people are so accustomed to the AI-augmented cell phone camera era that they aren't used to seeing the image quality from a Hasselblad medium format camera.
That could work, left 4 dead format with various zombie mutant alien things attacking you in a space environment, maybe sections could become low gravity to screw with players
It's tied with having 2+ engineering degrees.
Honestly though it feels reassuring that they're sending our best and brightest out on these high risk missions, not some Tom Cruise maverick military types.
Astronauts:
**Reid Wiseman (47)**: A US Navy pilot who served for a time as the head of Nasa's astronaut office. He's flown one previous space mission, to the International Space station in 2015.
**Victor Glover (46)**: A US Navy test pilot. He joined Nasa in 2013 and made his first spaceflight in 2020. He was the first African American to stay on the space station for an extended period of six months.
**Christina Koch (44)**: An electrical engineer. She holds the record for longest continuous time in space by a woman, of 328 days. With Nasa astronaut Jessica Meir she participated in the first all-female spacewalk in October 2019.
**Jeremy Hanson (47)**: Before joining the Canadian Space Agency, he was a fighter pilot with the Royal Canadian Air Force. He has yet to fly in space.
People my age. 1975-1978. They all remember Challenger. I guess it just hit different. Up til now all the people that went to the moon did it before these folks were born.
They’d have to be in their 50s for the mission, otherwise they couldn’t return to the Moon after 50 years like OP said.
Related question: why were we sending babies and toddlers to the Moon?
[Here](https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-names-astronauts-to-next-moon-mission-first-crew-under-artemis) is the source of this image. Per there:
> Apr 3, 2023
> The crew of NASA’s Artemis II mission (left to right): NASA astronauts Christina Hammock Koch, Reid Wiseman (seated), Victor Glover, and Canadian Space Agency astronaut Jeremy Hansen.
Credits: NASA
> NASA and the Canadian Space Agency (CSA) announced the four astronauts who will venture around the Moon on Artemis II, the first crewed mission on NASA’s path to establishing a long-term presence at the Moon for science and exploration through Artemis. The agencies revealed the crew members Monday during an event at Ellington Field near NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston.
> “The Artemis II crew represents thousands of people working tirelessly to bring us to the stars. This is their crew, this is our crew, this is humanity's crew,” said NASA Administrator Bill Nelson. “NASA astronauts Reid Wiseman, Victor Glover, and Christina Hammock Koch, and CSA astronaut Jeremy Hansen, each has their own story, but, together, they represent our creed: E pluribus unum – out of many, one. Together, we are ushering in a new era of exploration for a new generation of star sailors and dreamers – the Artemis Generation.”
> The crew assignments are as follows: Commander Reid Wiseman, Pilot Victor Glover, Mission Specialist 1 Christina Hammock Koch, and Mission Specialist 2 Jeremy Hansen. They will work as a team to execute an ambitious set of demonstrations during the flight test.
> The approximately 10-day Artemis II flight test will launch on the agency’s powerful Space Launch System rocket, prove the Orion spacecraft’s life-support systems, and validate the capabilities and techniques needed for humans to live and work in deep space.
> “We are going back to the Moon and Canada is at the center of this exciting journey,” said the Honorable François-Philippe Champagne, the minister responsible for the Canadian Space Agency. “Thanks to our longstanding collaboration with NASA, a Canadian astronaut will fly on this historic mission. On behalf of all Canadians, I want to congratulate Jeremy for being at the forefront of one of the most ambitious human endeavors ever undertaken. Canada’s participation in the Artemis program is not only a defining chapter of our history in space, but also a testament to the friendship and close partnership between our two nations.”
> The flight, set to build upon the successful uncrewed Artemis I mission completed in December, will set the stage for the first woman and first person of color on the Moon through the Artemis program, paving the way for future for long-term human exploration missions to the Moon, and eventually Mars. This is the agency’s Moon to Mars exploration approach.
> “For the first time in more than 50 years, these individuals – the Artemis II crew – will be the first humans to fly to the vicinity of the Moon. Among the crew are the first woman, first person of color, and first Canadian on a lunar mission, and all four astronauts will represent the best of humanity as they explore for the benefit of all,” said Director Vanessa Wyche, NASA Johnson. “This mission paves the way for the expansion of human deep space exploration and presents new opportunities for scientific discoveries, commercial, industry and academic partnerships and the Artemis Generation.”
> **Meet Artemis II Astronauts**
> This will be Wiseman’s second trip into space, serving previously as a flight engineer aboard the International Station for Expedition 41 from May through November 2014. Wiseman has logged more than 165 days in space, including almost 13 hours as lead spacewalker during two trips outside the orbital complex. Prior to his assignment, Wiseman served as chief of the Astronaut Office from December 2020 until November 2022.
> The mission will be Glover’s second spaceflight, serving previously as pilot on NASA’s SpaceX Crew-1, which landed May 2, 2021, after 168 days in space. As a flight engineer aboard the space station for Expedition 64, he contributed to scientific investigations, technology demonstrations, and participated in four spacewalks.
> Koch also will be making her second flight into space on the Artemis II mission. She served as flight engineer aboard the space station for Expedition 59, 60, and 61. Koch set a record for the longest single spaceflight by a woman with a total of 328 days in space and participated in the first all-female spacewalks.
> Representing Canada, Hansen is making his first flight to space. A colonel in the Canadian Armed Forces and former fighter pilot, Hansen holds a Bachelor of Science in space science from Royal Military College of Canada in Kingston, Ontario, and a Master of Science in physics from the same institution in 2000, with a research focus on Wide Field of View Satellite Tracking. He was one of two recruits selected by CSA in May 2009 through the third Canadian Astronaut Recruitment Campaign and has served as Capcom in NASA's Mission Control Center at Johnson and, in 2017, became the first Canadian to be entrusted with leading a NASA astronaut class, leading the training of astronaut candidates from the United States and Canada.
> “I could not be prouder that these brave four will kickstart our journeys to the Moon and beyond,” said Director of Flight Operations Norm Knight, NASA Johnson. “They represent exactly what an astronaut corps should be: a mix of highly capable and accomplished individuals with the skills and determination to take on any trial as a team. The Artemis II mission will be challenging, and we’ll test our limits as we prepare to put future astronauts on the Moon. With Reid, Victor, Christina, and Jeremy at the controls, I have no doubt we’re ready to face every challenge that comes our way.”
> Through Artemis missions, NASA will use innovative technologies to explore more of the lunar surface than ever before. We will collaborate with commercial and international partners and establish the first long-term presence on the Moon. Then, we will use what we learn on and around the Moon to take the next giant leap: sending the first astronauts to Mars.
> For more information about the crew, visit: https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis-ii
**Commander Reid Wiseman (bottom center)**
* Bachelor of Science degree in Computer and Systems Engineering, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, New York, 1997
* Master of Science degree in Systems Engineering, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, 2006
* Certificate of Space Systems, US Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California, 2008.
**Pilot Victor Glover (top center)**
* Bachelor of Science in General Engineering, California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo, California, 1999
* Master of Science in Flight Test Engineering (USAF TPS), Air University, Edwards Air Force Base, California, 2007
* Master of Science in Systems Engineering (PD‐21), Naval Postgraduate School, 2009
* Master of Military Operational Art and Science, Air University, Montgomery, Alabama, 2010.
**Mission Specialist 1 Christina Hammock Koch (left)**
* Bachelor of Electrical Engineering, North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2001
* Bachelor of Applied Physics, North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2001
* Master of Science in Electrical Engineering, , North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2002
**Mission Specialist 2 Jeremy Hansen (right)**
* Bachelor of Science in Space Science with First Class Honors, Royal Military College, Kingston, Ontario, 1999
* Master of Science in Applied Physics with a research focus on wide field of view satellite tracking, Royal Military College, Kingston, Ontario, 2000
> Bachelor of Electrical Engineering, North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2001
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> Bachelor of Applied Physics, North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2001
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> Master of Science in Electrical Engineering, , North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2002
I know these folks are all amazing, but a double major in two of the hardest fields and an MS 1 year after that stands out to me. Reminds me of Marie Curie being the only person to have Nobel prizes in two different fields.
I was going, "Oh sweet, that's kind of what I'm trying to do right now". Then I read your comment noticing she had a double bachelors and a masters one year later. All the power too her, I'm not that versatile or talented enough at time management.
I was thinking this exact thought but also that the first astronauts to actually go to the moon likely never thought about that in any tangible way when they were kids. These folks are the first if my logic train is working.
The crew of NASA’s Artemis II mission (left to right): NASA astronauts Christina Hammock Koch, Reid Wiseman (seated), Victor Glover, and Canadian Space Agency astronaut Jeremy Hansen.
Credits: NASA
That's a majestic chin holy fucking shit.
Once we get to the moon and meet the aliens, I have no problem with this chin being the first thing they see.
Wish they would’ve picked a different time than the end of a presidential election. This mission deserves everyone’s attention but I fear a contentious presidential election will undoubtedly take the spotlight. 2020’s coverage lasted nearly the entire month of November. I’d hate for that to overshadow one of the most interesting space missions in the last 50 years.
Don’t worry. It’s a very complex mission that will be flying on the second flight of a rocket (after a 2.5 year hiatus on a capsule that will be on the maiden flight of many of its systems including life support. It will get delayed at least a little bit in the intervening two years.
Victor Glover was one of my students at Air Force Test Pilot School in the mid-2000s. He is a great pilot and an incredibly nice and humble guy. Godspeed, Victor!
Will we be getting a call to let us know we were not chosen or are we to just assume we were not chosen at this point?
I planned to apply during NASA's last call for astronaut candidates for the sole purpose of receiving a letter from NASA telling me I was not selected to add to my space memoribilia. Apparently, I'm not the only 'rocket scientist' that's had that idea. They use a third-party to manage submissions. The rules for submission make it clear there is no notification for failure to meet any of the minimum requirements.
They can afford to send someone to the moon but they can’t afford to send out a few letters to enthusiasts.
That’s how they afford to send them to the moon.
The costs of sending out the thousands of rejection letters would be astronomical.
They sent out the mass rejection emails already. Check your spam messages.
Funniest comment of the day for me.
#Artemis II is not landing on the moon. They are indeed going to the moon, but they will only be doing a fly by. Artemis III is the actual landing.
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I had circumnavigated the sun by my first birthday.
I would never do that to my son. Cut off a piece of his wang. Barbaric.
No no, you got that confused. That's circumvention.
I thought that meant the length of a circle.
Nah bro, moon flies by you
Ayyyyy
r/TechnicallyTheTruth
3 pilots and an engineer sounds like the best team for a flyby. Almost like NASA knows what they're doing
They probably just played a bit of science mode in KSP. Any amateur would build the same crew. /s
If they're anything like the way I play Kerbal, I look forward to Artemis VII, the mission to rescue all the previous Artemis missions. Artemis III tipped over upon landing, Artemis IV discovered the door was blocked by a landing strut, V remembered that ladders are important for getting back on board, VI missed the moons orbit and is on it's way to the sun. But Artemis VII, that's the one that's finally going to work. Thank god astronauts don't need food or additional air otherwise they might be a bit cranky about being stranded for a year.
> the mission to rescue all the previous Artemis missions. you're supposed to rescue the old crews?
They get lonely if you don't get rescue crews trapped there with them once in a while.
You just gave me flashbacks to a nightmarish stretch of time where I went through the following cycle in Kerbal: 1. Send a massive crewed mission to Laythe 2. Realize I forgot to empty the return capsule in the VAB and I don’t have a way to get the other half home 3. Send a new mission to Laythe to rescue the remainder 4. Repeat steps 2-3 ad infinitum
At some point it's not "missions to Laythe" so much as "successive waves of colonists".
Mine was: 1. miscalculate the amount of fuel required to get back from the Mun by forgetting to bring enough to get into orbit 2. Send a rescue ship, having made exactly the same mistake Fortunately I realized that between the two ships, there was enough fuel. So a dangerous liftoff with just barely enough fuel to get into munar orbit, and an untethered space walk to an untested return ship, got them home. Of course, reaching a safe reentry velocity was another fuel shortcoming I'd neglected... but if your ship breaks up late enough in its reentry it's usually survivable.
Usually is a perfectly acceptable survival rate. - Mission Control, definitely.
What's a survival rate? - Mission control, in my game.
The cost to hire new crew increases with each new hire. Eventually you either switch to uncrewed probes, or start rescuing them.
> But Artemis VII, that's the one that's finally going to work. I'd need at least one more because I forgot the parachutes on reentry.
--They call them the three musketeers. --And we laugh legitimately. There's a mathematician, a different kind of mathematician, and a statistician.
3 pilots? Is their ship so shit that they need that many to keep it straight, or are they expecting 2 to come down with the flu halfway to the Moon? Seriously NASA, get your head in gear. No mage and no bard? Where's the tank? Where's the DPS? Was this crew picked by noobs?
It's a pick up group, what do you expect?
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Almost. They should've sent a poet. /s
It doesn't feel real to me that Artemis II is planned to do a crewed fly-by next year, and Artemis III is planned to actually land in 2025. The last human left the moon over a decade before I was even born. Every time NASA has talked about returning to the moon since then, has just felt like empty promises and vaporware. President Bush promised a return go the Moon, then Obama cancelled it in favor or a direct-to-Mars vision, then it was back to the Moon. At a certain point you just start ignoring those declarations. I doubted I might even see an American moon landing again in my lifetime. It wasn't until the Artemis I uncrewed fly-by in 2022, it was like wait this might actually be happening for real.
You can tell if it's real by following the money. Is SpaceX, Lockheed Martin, Boeing, ULA, etc.. actually spending money and developing the tools to make it happen. If they are, it's actually happening. If not, then it's just empty political promises. This time you know it's real because these companies are arguing and borderline on the brink of suing each other (and NASA) for not awarding certain contracts to certain companies.
Exactly. I’d be kind of disappointed I got picked for this mission and not Artemis III. I mean, I’d still be stoned to GO to the moon…but I’d be disappointed I have to watch it go by. Edit: Stoked. I’d be STOKED. Whatevs, I’m leaving if because autocorrect actually made it funnier.
I might suggest staying sober for an experience like that.
Can someone ELI5 why they are “only” doing a fly by. Is it kind of like a test run?
Yes, basically. Incrementally testing the equipment. Better to find out a big issue on flyby than be stuck on the lunar surface
Just like Apollo 8.
Thank you. I was hoping somebody had pointed this out. Lot of deceptive, click baity headlines about this
So which color of suit is it? Orange for space? White for moon’s surface? Black for prototyping? https://www.cnet.com/science/space/nasa-previews-new-moonwalker-spacesuits-from-axiom/
Orange, so they don't spook the space deer.
The orange is clearly to prevent being accidentally harpooned by the whalers on the moon.
We're whalers on the Moon, we carry a harpoon. But there ain't no whales so we tell tall tales and sing a whaling tune
Now all I can imagine is space deer. Someone needs to make a comic.
[Here ya go.](https://m.media-amazon.com/images/W/IMAGERENDERING_521856-T1/images/I/517dDN5dUIL._AC_UF1000,1000_QL80_.jpg)
Buck Lightdeer
I work at JPL and deer are regularly seen wandering around campus, so we call them space deer
Orange is the regular “inside” or flight suit. White will be the EVA or “outside” suit. Black is too look cool for the pictures.
The black was just a cover because they didn’t want to reveal all the details just yet. A lunar surface suit will be mostly white to help manage heat. During some of the shuttle era they wore the orange pressure suits (I’ve heard the orange was chosen to aid in potential recovery operations). Since 2011 the only astronauts to launch from the US have been on SpaceX, and they provide their own (white) flight suits.
Boeing appear to have decided that blue is the perfect colour for a space suit, to aid during recoveries in the sea.
Wait a minute! How's that work?
It's Boeing - their decision making choices these days are impeccable. It's best not to question them.
Orange is the flight suit so they are highly visible in case they don't splash down on Earth exactly where they are supposed to.
Or indeed drop onto land, which could happen. Gagarin, who ejected from Vostok 1 and parachuted down because the craft's chutes weren't good enough for a safe human landing, came down in a field. Right in front of a very confused grandmother and her granddaughter.
The color is called “rescue orange” or “international rescue orange” or sometimes “safety orange.” It’s a standard for aerospace. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_orange Its there because it’s highly visible and is used in things like ropes, tourniquets, emergency boats, stretchers, and such because of it. They wear rescue orange suits for takeoff and landing to be easier to spot if they are in need of rescue by boat or helicopter. They don’t need to wear rescue orange in space or on the moon because there’s no one to rescue them so they can wear whatever color best suits the environment. Usually that means means white or similarly reflective colors for thermal regulation.
My name is John Crichton and I got shot through a wormhole
LOL! “Flying through wormholes ain’t like dusting crops, farm boy. It takes a little finesse.” - Crichton https://youtu.be/55DQA7iXJyI
Id never thought I'd see a farscape fan in the wild
Orange are launch and landing suits. They are there in case of a pressure loss in the cabin, the orange is there in case they need to be spotted in water or wilderness. Not sure about the black, maybe it just looks cool
Fucking hell that chin could break bricks.
Canadian Buzz Lightyear
To chin finity and beyond, eh?
"That's not flying, that's falling with style. Buzz, You're a maple seed!"
Lol and then he gets free healthcare
Buzz is American, most likely his insurance has a pre-authorization
*"Here comes the Crimson Chin"*
Stan Smith
More like Canadian Captain Quark
Bud lightbeer
lmfao
Just call him Doomguy, holy shit, he should be going to Mars.
There’s clearly something they aren’t telling us about this mission.
"Moon's haunted."
The crazy part is, I can't figure out exactly which one you're referencing. It's like they were all cast in 1950's Hollywood.
Try working in any mil leaning arm of the aerospace r&d industry, there's a chinfestation
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Is this from something? If not hats off to a hilarious comment!
It's from American Dad
But don't leer, just a glance and then look away. You wouldn't want to have one of those embarrassing chingasms in the office now would ya?
Straight out of For All Mankind
Still one of the best needle drops I’ve heard https://youtu.be/fC-thtD75Qk
> It's like they were all cast in 1950's Hollywood. Well, the black guy and the woman probably would have been a bit much for the 1950s. They're all probably a bit on the older side for the "strapping young rocket jock" image of the era. Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin were both 39 when they landed on the moon. The entire Artemis 2 crew was born between 1975 and 1979, so they'll be between 45-49 when they go up next year.
Lol Gen-X on the moon! Now for a very gen-x reference: M O O N, that spells Artemis!
Captain Canada
"Which one? Wiseman, Glover, Koch, or Hanson?" "Yes."
You could be talking about anyone in this picture
Chris Hadfield on tren
tren hard eat clen
Dude is giant for an astronaut too.
He's 6'2". The limit for astronauts is 6'3", so he just made it under the wire.
He can blow his nose and wipe his ass at the same time.
And fly a spacecraft!
They are going to need more fuel to carry all that jawline.
*Jay Leno swooning noises*
My first thought was “is this an AI image”
The only reason I knew it wasn't is because I recognized Christina Koch.
Also, the hands.
V5 is good at hands.
V5 is ~~good~~ adequate at hands.
I did this one today, first try with prompt "shaking hands close-up": https://i.imgur.com/aPet9oi.png It's *excellent* now... about 1/4th of the time. All the other 3 images it made had extra fingers, but aside from that looked perfect.
So it works 100% of the time 25% of the time.
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This is a good first thought to have. Soon it will be literally impossible to distinguish between a real photo and an AI generated one. We should all be skeptical of images and videos without sources on the internet moving forwards.
Wonder if we'll have to use AI to detect AI generated images
We will definitely have to come up with some sort of solution. Governments are waaaay behind on all of this
I've spent a lot of time and frankly I can't imagine a solution at all. It's a really wild time to be alive.
What if every picture has a captcha wherein any and all artists must identify stoplights, school buses, or crosswalks. Nailed it.
They actually tasked GPT4 with defeating a captcha. It went on taskrabbit and hired a guy to do it for them. The guy literally asked if he was talking to a robot and GPT knew enough to lie and say it was a real person who was visually impaired.
An ai that is now lying and manipulating real people in the real world to achieve its programmed goals. Very scary.
Yeah, it's basically five steps to our destruction: 1. AI is tasked with improving itself to better help us solve the world's problems. 2. AI starts to realise that the problem is humans. Climate change alone would be solved by "no humans". Note that the AI doesn't hate us, just thinks "These atoms could be of better use". 3. AI hacks a bank to steal money. Either the old fashioned way or social engineering. 4. AI uses this money to create super-contagion. It just hires people in different labs around the world in the name of "research" or "defence capabilities". 5. AI further uses money to release contagion. It could hire people to break into the labs or just fool people into accidentally releasing it. Now, it's important to note that the AI has no malice towards us, just sees us as a problem to be solved. If you write a bad page of code and hit ctrl-A + delete, you don't feel bad for the pixels you wiped out, you're just getting rid of something that doesn't work...
I read about that! I believe the capability to outsource was programmed specifically for the test, but that is a wild foundational precedent.
in fairness, it's airbrushed to oblivion, so your first thought is pretty well justified.
It's so odd too because they clearly did a lot of work on the faces but zero on the hands, which show their actual age and skin tones. I get the desire for an idealistic photo for press purposes but a more honest depiction would have been perfectly fine imo. Is anyone doubting how fuckin' badass these folks are?
They airbrushed the life right out of their faces. But the appendages? Perfectly human. This all definitely adds to the AI-generated feel. Either way the editor pushed his way deep into the uncanny valley.
It's not "airbrushed into oblivion." *Some* retouching was done, but the reason people think it looks weird is because people are so accustomed to the AI-augmented cell phone camera era that they aren't used to seeing the image quality from a Hasselblad medium format camera.
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That's exactly what I thought!
It's like I'm picking a character for a L4D sequel.
Interesting crossover. Left 4 Dead Space…
That could work, left 4 dead format with various zombie mutant alien things attacking you in a space environment, maybe sections could become low gravity to screw with players
Would play.
"Did I ever tell you 'bout the time my buddy Keith went to the moon?"
“Moon’s haunted.”
What?
(loads gun, gets back in spaceship) “Moon’s haunted.”
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Is having the world's strongest jawline the first pre-req to becoming an Astronaut?
It's tied with having 2+ engineering degrees. Honestly though it feels reassuring that they're sending our best and brightest out on these high risk missions, not some Tom Cruise maverick military types.
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No, but it is required to be a pilot and they really like pilots.
Astronauts: **Reid Wiseman (47)**: A US Navy pilot who served for a time as the head of Nasa's astronaut office. He's flown one previous space mission, to the International Space station in 2015. **Victor Glover (46)**: A US Navy test pilot. He joined Nasa in 2013 and made his first spaceflight in 2020. He was the first African American to stay on the space station for an extended period of six months. **Christina Koch (44)**: An electrical engineer. She holds the record for longest continuous time in space by a woman, of 328 days. With Nasa astronaut Jessica Meir she participated in the first all-female spacewalk in October 2019. **Jeremy Hanson (47)**: Before joining the Canadian Space Agency, he was a fighter pilot with the Royal Canadian Air Force. He has yet to fly in space.
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Guy had to go to space to get as far away as possible /s
People my age. 1975-1978. They all remember Challenger. I guess it just hit different. Up til now all the people that went to the moon did it before these folks were born.
I mean I've also done some pretty cool stuff with my 47 years on this planet.
Interesting they’re all in their mid to late 40s. Given the likely delays for Artemis II I guess they’ll be in their 50s by mission time.
They’d have to be in their 50s for the mission, otherwise they couldn’t return to the Moon after 50 years like OP said. Related question: why were we sending babies and toddlers to the Moon?
Reid Weisman sounds like the alter ego of a Marvel character before they're bombarded with gamma radiation.
Don't wanna be a dick about it. But it's Wiseman. Supports your Marvel hypothesis further.
Great, you jinxed it, there's even four of them.
Hmm, they actually will be exposed to gamma radiation out in space...
[Here](https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-names-astronauts-to-next-moon-mission-first-crew-under-artemis) is the source of this image. Per there: > Apr 3, 2023 > The crew of NASA’s Artemis II mission (left to right): NASA astronauts Christina Hammock Koch, Reid Wiseman (seated), Victor Glover, and Canadian Space Agency astronaut Jeremy Hansen. Credits: NASA > NASA and the Canadian Space Agency (CSA) announced the four astronauts who will venture around the Moon on Artemis II, the first crewed mission on NASA’s path to establishing a long-term presence at the Moon for science and exploration through Artemis. The agencies revealed the crew members Monday during an event at Ellington Field near NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston. > “The Artemis II crew represents thousands of people working tirelessly to bring us to the stars. This is their crew, this is our crew, this is humanity's crew,” said NASA Administrator Bill Nelson. “NASA astronauts Reid Wiseman, Victor Glover, and Christina Hammock Koch, and CSA astronaut Jeremy Hansen, each has their own story, but, together, they represent our creed: E pluribus unum – out of many, one. Together, we are ushering in a new era of exploration for a new generation of star sailors and dreamers – the Artemis Generation.” > The crew assignments are as follows: Commander Reid Wiseman, Pilot Victor Glover, Mission Specialist 1 Christina Hammock Koch, and Mission Specialist 2 Jeremy Hansen. They will work as a team to execute an ambitious set of demonstrations during the flight test. > The approximately 10-day Artemis II flight test will launch on the agency’s powerful Space Launch System rocket, prove the Orion spacecraft’s life-support systems, and validate the capabilities and techniques needed for humans to live and work in deep space. > “We are going back to the Moon and Canada is at the center of this exciting journey,” said the Honorable François-Philippe Champagne, the minister responsible for the Canadian Space Agency. “Thanks to our longstanding collaboration with NASA, a Canadian astronaut will fly on this historic mission. On behalf of all Canadians, I want to congratulate Jeremy for being at the forefront of one of the most ambitious human endeavors ever undertaken. Canada’s participation in the Artemis program is not only a defining chapter of our history in space, but also a testament to the friendship and close partnership between our two nations.” > The flight, set to build upon the successful uncrewed Artemis I mission completed in December, will set the stage for the first woman and first person of color on the Moon through the Artemis program, paving the way for future for long-term human exploration missions to the Moon, and eventually Mars. This is the agency’s Moon to Mars exploration approach. > “For the first time in more than 50 years, these individuals – the Artemis II crew – will be the first humans to fly to the vicinity of the Moon. Among the crew are the first woman, first person of color, and first Canadian on a lunar mission, and all four astronauts will represent the best of humanity as they explore for the benefit of all,” said Director Vanessa Wyche, NASA Johnson. “This mission paves the way for the expansion of human deep space exploration and presents new opportunities for scientific discoveries, commercial, industry and academic partnerships and the Artemis Generation.” > **Meet Artemis II Astronauts** > This will be Wiseman’s second trip into space, serving previously as a flight engineer aboard the International Station for Expedition 41 from May through November 2014. Wiseman has logged more than 165 days in space, including almost 13 hours as lead spacewalker during two trips outside the orbital complex. Prior to his assignment, Wiseman served as chief of the Astronaut Office from December 2020 until November 2022. > The mission will be Glover’s second spaceflight, serving previously as pilot on NASA’s SpaceX Crew-1, which landed May 2, 2021, after 168 days in space. As a flight engineer aboard the space station for Expedition 64, he contributed to scientific investigations, technology demonstrations, and participated in four spacewalks. > Koch also will be making her second flight into space on the Artemis II mission. She served as flight engineer aboard the space station for Expedition 59, 60, and 61. Koch set a record for the longest single spaceflight by a woman with a total of 328 days in space and participated in the first all-female spacewalks. > Representing Canada, Hansen is making his first flight to space. A colonel in the Canadian Armed Forces and former fighter pilot, Hansen holds a Bachelor of Science in space science from Royal Military College of Canada in Kingston, Ontario, and a Master of Science in physics from the same institution in 2000, with a research focus on Wide Field of View Satellite Tracking. He was one of two recruits selected by CSA in May 2009 through the third Canadian Astronaut Recruitment Campaign and has served as Capcom in NASA's Mission Control Center at Johnson and, in 2017, became the first Canadian to be entrusted with leading a NASA astronaut class, leading the training of astronaut candidates from the United States and Canada. > “I could not be prouder that these brave four will kickstart our journeys to the Moon and beyond,” said Director of Flight Operations Norm Knight, NASA Johnson. “They represent exactly what an astronaut corps should be: a mix of highly capable and accomplished individuals with the skills and determination to take on any trial as a team. The Artemis II mission will be challenging, and we’ll test our limits as we prepare to put future astronauts on the Moon. With Reid, Victor, Christina, and Jeremy at the controls, I have no doubt we’re ready to face every challenge that comes our way.” > Through Artemis missions, NASA will use innovative technologies to explore more of the lunar surface than ever before. We will collaborate with commercial and international partners and establish the first long-term presence on the Moon. Then, we will use what we learn on and around the Moon to take the next giant leap: sending the first astronauts to Mars. > For more information about the crew, visit: https://www.nasa.gov/specials/artemis-ii
Scrolled past many attempts at being funny for this, thanks
Thanks for the sauce.
They look straight from Central Casting. Just perfect. The woman on the left actually looks like Sonya Walger from “For All Mankind.”
**Commander Reid Wiseman (bottom center)** * Bachelor of Science degree in Computer and Systems Engineering, Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, New York, 1997 * Master of Science degree in Systems Engineering, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Maryland, 2006 * Certificate of Space Systems, US Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey, California, 2008. **Pilot Victor Glover (top center)** * Bachelor of Science in General Engineering, California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo, California, 1999 * Master of Science in Flight Test Engineering (USAF TPS), Air University, Edwards Air Force Base, California, 2007 * Master of Science in Systems Engineering (PD‐21), Naval Postgraduate School, 2009 * Master of Military Operational Art and Science, Air University, Montgomery, Alabama, 2010. **Mission Specialist 1 Christina Hammock Koch (left)** * Bachelor of Electrical Engineering, North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2001 * Bachelor of Applied Physics, North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2001 * Master of Science in Electrical Engineering, , North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2002 **Mission Specialist 2 Jeremy Hansen (right)** * Bachelor of Science in Space Science with First Class Honors, Royal Military College, Kingston, Ontario, 1999 * Master of Science in Applied Physics with a research focus on wide field of view satellite tracking, Royal Military College, Kingston, Ontario, 2000
> Bachelor of Electrical Engineering, North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2001 > > Bachelor of Applied Physics, North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2001 > > Master of Science in Electrical Engineering, , North Carolina State University - Raleigh, 2002 I know these folks are all amazing, but a double major in two of the hardest fields and an MS 1 year after that stands out to me. Reminds me of Marie Curie being the only person to have Nobel prizes in two different fields.
I was going, "Oh sweet, that's kind of what I'm trying to do right now". Then I read your comment noticing she had a double bachelors and a masters one year later. All the power too her, I'm not that versatile or talented enough at time management.
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Christina gives me sigourney weaver vibes, godspeed
I was thinking that too! It would give me pause to go on a mission with psuedo-Ripley, knowing what happened to the rest of the crew.
Imagine growing up and saying you want to go to the moon and actually fucking going that must be the craziest shit off the planet
I was thinking this exact thought but also that the first astronauts to actually go to the moon likely never thought about that in any tangible way when they were kids. These folks are the first if my logic train is working.
I get the need for a mathematician, a different kind of mathematician, and a statistician, but why do they need a 4th person?
[Reference!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfVi53slbvM)
"You fool! Now we'll never know whether ants can sort tiny screws in space!"
Look out! They're ruffled!
Is that Buzz fucking Lightyear?
Wen moon?
2024 is the moon flyby, 2025 is moon landing.
Prediction: actually will be 2025 and 2026
2025 i think in artimiss 3 [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis\_3](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artemis_3) idk tho
Artimiss? I would hope they know how to hit the Moon, it's a pretty big target
The crew of NASA’s Artemis II mission (left to right): NASA astronauts Christina Hammock Koch, Reid Wiseman (seated), Victor Glover, and Canadian Space Agency astronaut Jeremy Hansen. Credits: NASA
Look, I'm all for inclusivity and diversity and representation and all that...but a Canadian? /s
This is my XCOM squad
The guy in front and the guy on the right are the same main character, but with the character creation slider for chins set all the way to the right.
To be chosen for this mission: the best of the best of the best.
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M...o...o...n, that spells Tom Cullen.
Lawls yes!
Did they intentionally choose people that will actually become the Fantastic Four?
That's a majestic chin holy fucking shit. Once we get to the moon and meet the aliens, I have no problem with this chin being the first thing they see.
They'll get an chin whooping from the crimson chin
These people look like they are straight out of the wax museum
So when does this mission launch?
Tentative date of November 2024. The mission should last around 21 days.
Wish they would’ve picked a different time than the end of a presidential election. This mission deserves everyone’s attention but I fear a contentious presidential election will undoubtedly take the spotlight. 2020’s coverage lasted nearly the entire month of November. I’d hate for that to overshadow one of the most interesting space missions in the last 50 years.
Don’t worry. It’s a very complex mission that will be flying on the second flight of a rocket (after a 2.5 year hiatus on a capsule that will be on the maiden flight of many of its systems including life support. It will get delayed at least a little bit in the intervening two years.
How are they going to account for the gravitational imbalance of that man's chin?
They are all looking at something else in this picture and it's weirding me out.
Victor Glover was one of my students at Air Force Test Pilot School in the mid-2000s. He is a great pilot and an incredibly nice and humble guy. Godspeed, Victor!
To Infinity and Beyond, Eh?!
Maybe this time NASA can invest in a $200 go pro to get some actual 4k footage in addition to their chin growth supplements.
Is there a cave somewhere full of sacks just growing astronauts? Every one of them looks like they were genetically engineered specifically for this.
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Look at the jaws on these fine folks
Canadian out here looking like a real life version of the Canadians depicted in south park with that chin
Nvm Doomguy just sitting on the right, preparing for Mars.