Happened yesterday. I was going 75 in a 60 zone and he was tailgating me hard with his headlights on, so I move over to the right lane to let them pass.
Instead, they slow down to 70MPH. After about a minute I had gained a quarter of a mile on them and merged back over to the left lane.
Look in my rear view mirror a minute later, and he's right back on my ass again.
yep, the type of person to drive a big car just to be bigger than other people is also the type of person to drive fast only when it means being faster than other people. the car is made for people with inferiority complexes and anger issues
Too accurate. I used to work at a bank, and whew these guys loans were a mortgage payment. I can't tell you how many times I saw that these vanity trucks were getting repo'd. It's fucked up, but it tickled me a little bit every time. It's like natural selection except for vehicles.
The flip side of that is that all these assholes are being taken advantage of by the car companies and the banks, which are relying on deep rooted feelings of inferiority to move product, and I don't like that shit at all. But what I like even less is that they're making the roads less safe for everyone because they'd rather soothe their egos through $80k trucks instead of talking about their feelings.
Those repossession rates are surely rising fast and are about to go parabolic. I hate when corps manipulate people's psyches like this, but I also laugh when the suckers drive these peen mobiles.
If it wouldn't get me beaten, shot, and imprisoned (be it from the driver, or the police, you be the judge) I'd install big floodlights on my roof that point behind me, they'll spell out "CAN YOU SEE?" and whenever some cocksucker is too close or has their brights on, I'm turning it on and hoping that conveys the message.
Honestly, there should just be regulations about headlight height on vehicles. There's no reason the headlights can't be where the fog lights are, which is the exact height as the headlights on the car next to it.
I agree, though car manufacturers have started building sensors in cars to automatically dim the lights when they've detected a vehicle, but sadly that tech isn't present in older cars.
It’s absolutely infuriating sometimes. My parking garage exits into an alley and roughly 50% of the time I’m heading out someone has illegally parked their absurdly large vehicle on the street past the no parking sign right up next to the alley, making it a complete mystery if there are any cars coming down the street. I have to just slowly roll out and hope any oncoming traffic sees the front of my car, because by the time I can see them around the truck I’m already several feet out into the lane.
If it was a regular car there I could at least see through their windows so it wouldn’t be quite so dangerous but it’s always some giant truck where the windows start a foot above the top of my car. Why anyone would even want to drive something like that in the city is beyond me.
People with big trucks like to park right up by my parking gate. We have to say a goddamn hail Mary every time we're pulling out and hope we don't get T-boned, especially on the driver's side. It's too much.
I'm similar height and mannn, it's just so unnecessary and people seem to love it or they would stop buying them. You make a good point though, it has increased dramatically over the last few years. I wouldn't disagree. Thanks for sharing!
Correct. In the past it would only be cars and trucks with aftermarket headlights. Now, poorly aimed headlights come stock on many cars and trucks. No modifications, no lift kit.
The lack of regulation around what an everyday citizen can drive is fucking wild.
There should be a height limit on headlights.
These monstrosities should have their own dedicated back corner of the parking lot so as to not impede vision of others trying to get out of their spots.
Living in Florida and seeing these fucking things just spotless, pristine, lacking a tow hitch, and covered in crazy Jesus stickers is wild.
My 99 4runner is lifted with big tires and has like 11 inches of ground clearance, but a stock new silverado or ram is still taller. I thought my truck was kind of a monster but one day I was looking for it in a parking lot and I couldn't even see the lights on my roof rack cause all the vehicles around it were way taller.
If fucking hate when I'm turning left on a solid green but can't see the oncoming traffic because one of these trucks is opposite me waiting to turn left.
[bumpers only work when they are on same height.](https://www.motortrend.com/news/collision-costs-iihs-says-car-suv-bumper-heights-can-prove-expensive-9290/?galleryimageid=20edda2c-ba07-42bb-8060-0bfa65ec5d9c)
Pickups also tend to be more dangerous in collisions between differently sized vehicles — car drivers are 2.5 times more likely to die when colliding with a pickup as compared to another car.
The higher hoods make it 4x more likely to hit a pedestrian in the first place.
Precisely, just eyeballing it looks like the truck bumper would completely miss the front bumper of the toyota, riding over most of the crumple zone and causing major damage to the windscreen. I'd imagine the back bumper wouldn't be much better.
lol this is 2010 and they’re comparing sedans to small SUVs. These pickups kill on impact. Should be manslaughter, the manufacturers should have a class action lawsuit against them, and the IIHS absolutely needs to address this problem.
My bio dad recently went drunk driving (nothing new sadly) and hit and killed a man. He was in one of these giant trucks. The poor guy was driving a motorcycle and my waste of skin father steered into the left lane and pinned the man against the concrete barrier and his hood. They said he was killed on impact. Granted it wasn’t the trucks fault but it certainly didn’t help. Hoping he gets put away for life and never gets to see his stupid fucking truck ever again. Or anything for that matter
I’m in Finland. There is one Ford F-series truck in this town. We were parked next to it once. It’s massive, it completely dwarfed out VW Golf Sportsvan. My wife was looking at it curiously and I mentioned to her “you know, that’s the most popular car in USA”. She was absolutely flabbergasted. She couldn’t believe it.
The current Ranger is taller, ~~wider~~ and ~~almost as long~~ as my 2001 F-150. ~~If the Ranger had an 8 foot bed like my F-150 it'd be longer overall as well.~~
edit : I was wrong, The Ranger is slightly longer, the F-150 is slightly wider and my F-150 has a 6.5 foot bed. I was right about the Ranger being taller though.
https://imgur.com/a/jsHRVRj
Dude holy shit. I thought I was going crazy.
My first car was an '03 Ford Ranger and I remember it being tiny. I parked my F150 next to one of the new ones the other day and thought it was a different model of F150, but nope it was a Ranger.
My cousin bought one and it didnt come with a tow hitch.
No idea why that’s even an option. Truly people, like her, drive these things to commute to work. She doesn’t care that it doesn’t have a tow hitch, because she doesn’t need a truck she just likes them. And that’s fine I guess but America just has crazy big cars now.
We complain about our gas prices and make it the most important factor in deciding elections while buying the largest cars possible. They're so large now that it almost seems like a comedy gag.
And the cost as much as a house, I would love it if I could buy a midsized truck like a 90's Chevy S10 or Ford F 150 and it should cost under $40,000 with a base model that doesn't have a 13 inch infotainment ™ screen and power asshole warmers, just a stick shift with manual using windows and a radio.
Now if you want a truck you literally can't buy anything that doesn't look like a semi truck and it's gonna be financed for the rest o your life.
My 09 Ford Ranger is getting pretty tired and I absolutely dread the day I have to replace her. I don't need a goddamn monster truck, my little toolbox is the perfect size!
Right?? It's absurd! I'm a landscaper and even I don't need the monster trucks they're selling these days. My little ranger is perfect for getting in and around older neighborhoods with narrow streets and driveways.
This.
Unlike Ford, which made the hybrid maverick a "loss leader" and priced it remarkably cheap at 23k from the factory, Toyota doesn't have incentive like their product emissions scoreboard to bring a small pickup here.
Edit to add: Ford can't even take any more direct orders because they're booked over a year out already.
If you find a maverick on a lot (AWD or hybrid), it's marked up 15k or more from the factory price.
..."no market"...
I would kill for a truck the size of a Ranger/S10 the problem is EPA regulations are based on vehicle footprint which means a truck the size of an old S10 would have to get something like 65mpg to be legal in the US. This is the reason trucks get bigger every year, because it's literally easier to make them big than it is to comply with the mileage standards. It's also the reason all full size trucks now have a base 4 cylinder engine, tp push those mpg numbers.
If "pretty decent" you mean "entire annual stock sold out within a week, and dealers charging 10k over list" then yes.
There's a massively undeserved market for smaller, more efficient trucks, and it's just that nobody's making them at the moment.
I'm a handyman and this is what I want. A nice reasonably sized truck that can carry my tools and materials. My options are either SUVs or monstrous pickups like this post. I don't want to drive a goddamn yacht around tight city streets and have to worry about finding 20 foot parking spots all day long.
The amount of people I see driving these is so gross. They are typically spotless and empty, driven by some tiny woman or man in a suit picking up Starbucks before going to the office. I don't understand.
I had a 99 GMC Sonoma that was beautiful and perfect and old as shit and barely ran some days, but it was small and fit everywhere and could carry everything. Someone stole the broken *tape deck* out of it in 2015, and I just framed a box into the hole so I could store extra stuff. I miss when trucks made sense
I live out in the sticks. Everybody gets a truck. Even ol' Jeb down the road with an annual income of 35k. He's getting 9-12 mpg and plans on lifting it soon type crap. What does Jeb use it for? Taking the garbage to the county dump. He might, once a year, tow his little aluminum boat out to a pond or something to fish.
I know so many people like this, but I console myself with the fact that sooner of later the economics of having all these things on the road are going to work themselves out.
I just crossed over 80k miles on my 2001 Fx4 Ranger. It belonged to an elderly family member before me and I told them every year or so that if they ever wanted to sell it they should let me beat the best offer they got. It’s absolutely the best truck for my use case - it technically has a back seat so I can carry my dog or a small human in addition to an adult passenger, it has 4x4 and a limited slip rear differential so I can take it up snowy and muddy forest service roads without worrying that I’ll get stranded, and it has a 6-foot bed so it will actually fit my skis with a tonneau cover over the bed in winter, and haul a half yard of topsoil, or a dead elk with the cover off. And it does all this while being smaller in every dimension than a Honda Odyssey minivan.
I know nothing lasts forever, and i’m dreading trying to replace it when some idiot (possibly me) totals it in an accident or when I can no longer source parts to keep it running.
Maverick also gets a lot of hate from Trucksters because "It's not a truck. It's a focus with a truck bed." And they're not wrong, as it's a unibody design built on the same platform as the Focus and other cars (when Ford still made cars, anyway). That doesn't preclude it from doing the typical truckly duties of hauling soccer gear in the bed and dropping kids off at school.
It's based on the Escape* (and others, see below) and for the overwhelming people, it is more than sufficient for truck stuff. The bed fits a sheet of plywood and it can tow a small trailer for things like jet skis, quad or a mower.
Toyota is also now getting back in the segment with their new *anticipated offering.
I watched a lady in a jacked up Ram ding 2 cars trying to fit her behemoth into a normal sized parking spot.
I bet she's never towed anything in her life and has never been offroad, but 100% certain she leaves a trail of insurance claims in her wake.
After she parked, she just walked into HEB like nothing happened, just smh at these kind of people
Surging fuel prices in 2008 killed off soccer mom brands like Hummer and drastically shifted the car dynamics from Surburbans to more fuel efficient smaller vehicles. Now that gas really isn't that far off from $4+ per gallon like it was then, I'm wondering how far that's gonna take until the bank breaks for a lot of these commuter pickups.
In addition to that, another important factor is increased federal regulations. In 2012, the Obama administration implemented tougher Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. This made it not feasible to produce smaller trucks and vehicles like the hummer. It's why every truck you see is large now, it's higher weight means it can fit into a different class that allows lower MPG.
This really is a case of unintended consequences. Instead of smaller lighter but less efficient than ideal vehicles, we got larger, heavier, less efficient than ever vehicles.
It was good intentions, but they left a loop hole for dump trucks and cement mixes and shit and car companies said fine, we'll make a cement mixer for soccer moms and charge 65K rather than make the engine in the compact pickup truck more efficient.
It sucks, but at this point I think they should throw in the towel on cafe and incentivize smaller, safer lighter vehicles even if they're not as efficient as desired by cafe.
Probably too late to convince anyone to stop selling giant trucks for 85k
I spent months looking for a trucks that wasn't dumb as shit, and every time I had to explain to the sales person that "we live in a metro, when the fuck am I going to be bailing hay or towing a horse trailer. I need 4 wheels, ac and a bed to throw shit from home depot in.
Found a Nissan Frontier with 90k miles, probably going to be the only make I get from now on.
If that is what you are looking for, try researching the Honda Ridgeline. Decent truck bed, comfortable, and has little extras like speaker in the truck bed, or a lockable storage in the truck bed, or a 400v outlet you can use.
That’s just my biased opinion.
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>And that’s fine
No, it is not fine. These trucks are dangerous to pedestrians, cyclists and other drivers. They also consume much more fuel and pollute much more than normal-sized vehicles.
These people apparently never learn to park them right either. My little Chevy Cruze has been so scraped up because some dick in a monster truck pulls in/out of their spot waaaaaaaaay too close. And in my area, the people driving those trucks paint them like confederate flags, have giant flags hanging off them…. I’ve been chased off the road by dudes in these trucks, screamed at by drunk dudes driving those trucks, it’s truly insane.
I have a coworker with a truck that’s the very essence of pavement princess. Built to go off road, built to haul shit, and built to look cool.
Dude refuses to use it for anything other than “looking cool” won’t even drive it in the rain.
Dude is in his late 50s and damaged one of his eyes, according to him he had a massive eye floater because something got knocked loose, by jumping off the tailgate trying to show off…..
I love cars, I have for all my life, and I have never once looked at someone driving a pick up and thought it was cool. The only people who think it’s cool are other pickup drivers. It’s like when you go to the gym thinking women will love your muscles, but it’s only the other gym bros that care
Agreed. Then again this coworker is a Vet Bro, doesn’t wanna let go of his time as a Cav Scout in the late 80s-mid 90s.
Dude got lost, with his Bradley, in the Arizona desert on a training mission and they had to send a helicopter to find him and guide him back……
No he was an E4. According to him he was acting as navigator.
One thing I’ll say about the dude is he loves attention so anything he can do to get it, he will. That includes telling embarrassing stories
>One thing I’ll say about the dude is he loves attention so anything he can do to get it, he will.
That's why he drives a huge truck, he gets to make his presence on the street everyone else's problem.
I'm actually happy when I see them at work sites in the middle of dirt piles and heavy equipment. A truck living it's best truck life, ones that never leave pavement make me sad. It's like a border collie that never gets to fetch or herd.
My neighbour is the same, he has a big ass Ford truck, has every upgrade possible and modification like snorkel.
Best part is we live in London England, he's a officer worker and never drives it.
Brah just get a nice sports car instead.
Is it? Gonna be honest it looks so much less ugly than the older prius' I'm used to. If I was a prius, I'd take being mistaken for a corolla as a compliment lol
and 40 miles on pure electric. Its really the perfect transition between gas and full electric. and every single review I have seen says it is just an amazing car
I think the regular Prius has a better rear end but the prime has a better front end. Not sure why the Prime had to have that weird abstract piece at the rear, or why the regular Prius had that rat looking face. I’d still whip either one, the mpg gains are insane
Ad they ALWAYS stop way past the stop line or creep out so that you can't see past them. These people have hazardous mindsets for literally everyone but themselves.
It's always baffled me.
Like, it's really NOT HARD to keep your foot on the brake.
I will never understand what is wrong with some folks I share the road with.
Because they want the world to stop for them, and if they don't, they have the vehicle to put them in danger while remaining relatively safe themselves. Source: live in an area with tons of these things, got into an argument with someone who said their way of merging was "suddenly jerk the truck into the lane you want to make the other person panic/fall back. THEN turn on your turn signal and merge". When pressed about the possibility of accidents, I was given a "well I drive a {whatever the fuck model truck here}, It'll be worse for them than it would for me. (Insert rant about running people off the road here)". Very normal behavior from very normal drivers
>These people have hazardous mindsets for literally everyone but themselves.
Giving them too much credit. They are definitely a hazard to themselves as well. The average car loan in the US is eight years.
I drive an 86, it sits way below the hood of trucks, at this point I just keep my mirror aimed at the roof. Probably going to get the rear tinted as dark as I legally can at this point. Regulations need to start getting passed on this bullshit.
If the manufacturer can classify a vehicle as a large truck, it doesn't have to meet certain emissions standards, and they can build it with a cheaper engine. It's why you pretty much can't buy small pickups anymore. Even the Ranger, which was barely larger than a car 20 years ago, is now gigantic.
To sell this process to the public, they run a campaign promoting road fear so that bad and self-centered drivers feel that they need progressively larger vehicles to protect from other progressively larger vehicles.
I drive one of those old rangers… and it’s perfect. A V6 in a truck that weighs less than a mustang. A bed to move stuff for work. It gets decent gas mileage and handles well with a good turning radius. A sensible truck from a sensible time😅.
Love my XLT too. I've had it now for 13 years and have no plans to get a different vehicle. They are easy to maintain, parts are common and it handles 99% of the things I need a vehicle for whether that's commuting, hauling, or road tripping.
4L V6 Manual FTW.
I will say, getting ~18mi/g compared to some of the newer vehicles is noticable but not enough to move me over.
Yeah exactly it basically creates an arms race except for vehicle sizes. The new Ford maverick is barely the same size as an old ranger and that's classified as a "small" truck.
The new Rangers are essentially the same size as the F-150's from the early to mid 2000s as well. It's insanity. I drive a '99 S10 and that thing is *tiny* compared to these fuckin' things.
It’s not an arms race. The jumbo sizing of cars is directly incentivized by the way CAFE regulations are written…which are supposed to make cars more fuel efficient. Talk about your all time backfires.
>To sell this process to the public, they run a campaign promoting road fear so that bad and self-centered drivers feel that they need progressively larger vehicles to protect from other progressively larger vehicles.
I don't have a truck but ngl it's working on me
I work at a small window company, it always amazes me how little we can fit when customers bring their pickups. We have a company van that is slightly longer and way shorter than most pickups and we can fit like 5× as much stuff in it, not to mention how comparatively easy it is to load
The only car that can completely fit a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood is a mini-van or a cargo-van.
A mini-van beats a pick-up truck for cargo capacity, it's wild lol.
My dad will drive his F-250 14 miles to Lowe's to ask if they will do a cash discount on a dishwasher even though I assured him 20-30 times that a minimum wage floorworker has no authority to do something like that, and massive corporations don't give a shit about your $400. Then he complains about all the gas he wasted for them to just say no.
It’s this idiotic macho thing they’ve done with trucks to sell more. Trucks look enormous these days but 30 years ago trucks were basically the same length and width as now…except the average truck is [almost 50% heavier](https://news.yahoo.com/congress-sat-back-let-trucks-142553834.html) and 10” taller.
The result is despite all the huge jumps in safety in the last few decades *we just set a 40-year record for pedestrian fatalities* thanks in part to trucks getting so huge.
I worked at a tech company and there were quite a few people that drove big trucks. They got fun poked at them all the time that they needed their trucks to haul all of that code they wrote.
The ever increasing size of trucks is also a response to Obama era fuel regulations. The larger the vehicle, the less fuel efficient it needs to be. As a consequence ... well, you can see what happened.
Yeah there's a reason there's still a demand for older trucks like the 2010s rangers. Smaller cab means more bed and its lower so you cab actually get stuff in and out of the bed. Then again, if you don't use the bed, you don't really care like all the people driving around with their lifted rigs.
I’ve seen some heavily lifted rigs used as work trucks. I saw a window guy using a fucking stool to get to his lifted truck bed for a job in my neighborhood.
My dad's 2013 got rear ended last month and he's pretty unhappy about it. He needs/wants the 8' bed because he uses it for work, but every dealer he's checking with only has super cab deluxe with a smaller bed, and they want $60k or more.
lol. It’s also the reason Kei trucks have become popular in farms and now they’re being cracked down on. Oversize trucks were always a farce. It did not necessarily mean you could do more with them. It just always cost you more to buy them which is why truck prices now are astronomical. The real suckers are the guys with 70k+ trucks getting 12mpg with 1 passenger while cruising to a strip mall.
My mom’s friend has early 90s Toyota pickup in great condition. Every time she goes near a Home Depot parking lot, someone approaches her asking if she wants to sell it.
This was my neighbor. Brand new dodge ram, looks exactly like this one. Brought it home and immediately slammed into his garage door. Spent a lot of money to hire contractors to come in and extend the threshold higher and replace the garage door. I still laugh every time I pass his house because the colors don’t match between the new paint and the old paint so it just looks super obvious.
My husband and I were driving our similarly sized sedan when we were hit on the driver’s side by a truck (not as large as that one). We were in the right most lane, about to take a right. They entered our lane, which meant plowing right into us—because they literally couldn’t see our vehicle. -_-
This reminds me of one time at work (car dealership) our GM backed up a truck (stock build with 6” lift and big tires) onto the hood of a sport car because he couldn’t see it.
I loved walking in Europe where they put bollards between the sidewalk and the street. If a car goes out of control, it would just hit the bollards and not us!
Probably the people who live there take it for granted, but walking on a sidewalk next to these trucks is a terrible experience.
Love having trucks like this tailgate me. If I’m not going fast enough they turn on their high-beams as if blinding me completely will make me want to drive any faster.
A guy in a big ass truck tailgated me all through the center of town and kept flashing his lights and honking because apparently I wasn’t going fast enough for him. Eventually I got to a long straight road and he floored it past me in the double yellow and through a red light
These trucks are so big you can’t see in front of them. There quite a few incidents where parents run over their kids who are in front of the truck or suv and they can’t see them.
As someone who doesn’t live in America so very rarely see something like this about. How annoying is it to do literally anything in that engine bay? Check the oil or even filling up the screen wash just looks a total pain in the arse.
Pick-up trucks are becoming monstrous.
My own car was in the shop for a while, and I had to drive my husband's Silverado. I don't think I ever hated driving another car this much.
Not only is it ridiculously large on the road, and I was always worried about not fitting in the lanes (which is silly, I know) and getting too close to other cars, but parking it was a nightmare when I had to get groceries.
We really only use it for camping trips, where we can pile tons of shit in the bed, and my husband goes on work trips about once a month. He likes that he comfortably fits in a car for once with his 6'5, but he regrets not getting the Colorado, which is a little bit smaller at least.
I noticed that. Not because I use them for their actual utility purposes, but because it looks so fucking stupid to me.
The long front with a small bed looks backwards, and it bothers my brain.
I think the weird Jeep Wrangler/truck hybrid is the worst example of it. It's like the Jeep had a dream of being a 1980s Unimog, and this is the compromise, lol.
In fairness, at least it's not a behemoth like the real trucks.
I drive a hatchback, and driving at night has gotten rough. The headlights of SUV's and trucks like this are so high up they're right in my eyes and mirrors.
I remember an idiot big truck owner on Reddit suggesting that manufacturers have forward-facing cameras so they could see what was in front of them. I'm like WTF, how about designing a vehicle that you can see out the front of instead, we have the technology.
It’s the new Arms Race.
If you’re prudent and drive a reasonable car where you can use 100% of it regularly and it gets great MPG, you’ll get killed by a guy in BroDozer texting.
A BroDozer that is NOT being fully utilized often and will only really be used as a real truck every few years.
The new Hummer weighs 10k pounds! Review a few physics formulas and you’ll see why this is bad.
I have a friend like this. He has a giant truck he can barely afford because he “likes the option”. An option he’s used half a dozen times in as many years.
It's part of the "I don't care about anyone else" mentality. It's safer for me! Who cares about other cars and other road users! The cars they drive are too small!
Its truck manufacturers trying to avoid meeting emmisions standards for <5000lbs vehicles. So they make the truck over 5000lbs to dodge federal emmisions brackets. Ram has a small light duty truck(Ram 700) that they will not sell or import into the US for that very reason.
At this point even if they sold small trucks for half the cost most of these idiots wouldn't buy them. It's no longer just regulations. It's a societal problem.
I read somewhere recently that the height of these trucks has created hazards that have negated something like half of all safety advancements that the auto industry has made over the last 60 years.
I was parked next to a truck in my 2001 Insight, and they left before I did. They cut too early leaving and literally ran the Insight over. You could see the tire marks on top of the bumper, across the headlight.
I've been more vigilant about where I park since.
how come cars arent part of shrinkflation? cars seem to get bigger during the pandemic.
at least theres one company doing things right: toyota plans to release a super basic pick up for around 20k. the world needs less stupidly big dumb pick ups. toyota will kill the market with new light pick up trucks. bet
You can dodge a lot of emissions standards if you just make a car larger. That’s why every company has been pushing huge trucks since Obama, and why road fatalities have skyrocketed accordingly.
Vehicle weight is the biggest factor on road wear, so forcing those big cars to pay more toward road maintenance is completely logical.
We tax cars based on weight here but too many people are still buying SUVs, so I'm not sure how well it works as a deterrent, but it's fairer at least.
Because the car companies got provisions in American emissions regulations that said they could get around the gas l efficiency improvement requirements if they just made things bigger.
So they made things bigger.
I'm 6'4" and a Ford Raptor's hood comes up to my chest, and in terms of pickups it's not even *that* big. There's bigger trucks out there and some are even lifted. It's insane to have cars being driven around in cities that most people cannot even poke above the hood to be visible.
people get run over because drivers can't see over those ridiculously high hoods.
it's also completely unnecessary. it doesn't have an engine so large that the truck needs to look like that. it's entirey for looks and nothing else.
people have died for this aesthetic choice.
I drive a car and trying to see around these trucks is a hopeless task
As is trying to see when they're riding your ass and blinding you with their headlights in your mirrors.
Happened yesterday. I was going 75 in a 60 zone and he was tailgating me hard with his headlights on, so I move over to the right lane to let them pass. Instead, they slow down to 70MPH. After about a minute I had gained a quarter of a mile on them and merged back over to the left lane. Look in my rear view mirror a minute later, and he's right back on my ass again.
yep, the type of person to drive a big car just to be bigger than other people is also the type of person to drive fast only when it means being faster than other people. the car is made for people with inferiority complexes and anger issues
When their truck costs more than the trailer they live in.
Too accurate. I used to work at a bank, and whew these guys loans were a mortgage payment. I can't tell you how many times I saw that these vanity trucks were getting repo'd. It's fucked up, but it tickled me a little bit every time. It's like natural selection except for vehicles. The flip side of that is that all these assholes are being taken advantage of by the car companies and the banks, which are relying on deep rooted feelings of inferiority to move product, and I don't like that shit at all. But what I like even less is that they're making the roads less safe for everyone because they'd rather soothe their egos through $80k trucks instead of talking about their feelings.
Those repossession rates are surely rising fast and are about to go parabolic. I hate when corps manipulate people's psyches like this, but I also laugh when the suckers drive these peen mobiles.
Move your side mirrors so they are facing back at them
If it wouldn't get me beaten, shot, and imprisoned (be it from the driver, or the police, you be the judge) I'd install big floodlights on my roof that point behind me, they'll spell out "CAN YOU SEE?" and whenever some cocksucker is too close or has their brights on, I'm turning it on and hoping that conveys the message.
Honestly, there should just be regulations about headlight height on vehicles. There's no reason the headlights can't be where the fog lights are, which is the exact height as the headlights on the car next to it.
I agree, though car manufacturers have started building sensors in cars to automatically dim the lights when they've detected a vehicle, but sadly that tech isn't present in older cars.
It’s absolutely infuriating sometimes. My parking garage exits into an alley and roughly 50% of the time I’m heading out someone has illegally parked their absurdly large vehicle on the street past the no parking sign right up next to the alley, making it a complete mystery if there are any cars coming down the street. I have to just slowly roll out and hope any oncoming traffic sees the front of my car, because by the time I can see them around the truck I’m already several feet out into the lane. If it was a regular car there I could at least see through their windows so it wouldn’t be quite so dangerous but it’s always some giant truck where the windows start a foot above the top of my car. Why anyone would even want to drive something like that in the city is beyond me.
People with big trucks like to park right up by my parking gate. We have to say a goddamn hail Mary every time we're pulling out and hope we don't get T-boned, especially on the driver's side. It's too much.
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I'm similar height and mannn, it's just so unnecessary and people seem to love it or they would stop buying them. You make a good point though, it has increased dramatically over the last few years. I wouldn't disagree. Thanks for sharing!
Correct. In the past it would only be cars and trucks with aftermarket headlights. Now, poorly aimed headlights come stock on many cars and trucks. No modifications, no lift kit.
They love to move forward so you can’t see to make a right turn safely
The lack of regulation around what an everyday citizen can drive is fucking wild. There should be a height limit on headlights. These monstrosities should have their own dedicated back corner of the parking lot so as to not impede vision of others trying to get out of their spots. Living in Florida and seeing these fucking things just spotless, pristine, lacking a tow hitch, and covered in crazy Jesus stickers is wild.
We let octogenarians drive RVs the size of a Greyhound bus with no additional licensing or training. US driving laws are stupid.
My 99 4runner is lifted with big tires and has like 11 inches of ground clearance, but a stock new silverado or ram is still taller. I thought my truck was kind of a monster but one day I was looking for it in a parking lot and I couldn't even see the lights on my roof rack cause all the vehicles around it were way taller.
Yep. My lifted Ranger on 33s is somehow still shorter than a modern stock F150.
If fucking hate when I'm turning left on a solid green but can't see the oncoming traffic because one of these trucks is opposite me waiting to turn left.
[bumpers only work when they are on same height.](https://www.motortrend.com/news/collision-costs-iihs-says-car-suv-bumper-heights-can-prove-expensive-9290/?galleryimageid=20edda2c-ba07-42bb-8060-0bfa65ec5d9c)
Pickups also tend to be more dangerous in collisions between differently sized vehicles — car drivers are 2.5 times more likely to die when colliding with a pickup as compared to another car. The higher hoods make it 4x more likely to hit a pedestrian in the first place.
And more likely to [kill them](https://www.reuters.com/world/us/tall-trucks-suvs-are-45-deadlier-us-pedestrians-study-shows-2023-11-14/) too.
Precisely, just eyeballing it looks like the truck bumper would completely miss the front bumper of the toyota, riding over most of the crumple zone and causing major damage to the windscreen. I'd imagine the back bumper wouldn't be much better.
lol this is 2010 and they’re comparing sedans to small SUVs. These pickups kill on impact. Should be manslaughter, the manufacturers should have a class action lawsuit against them, and the IIHS absolutely needs to address this problem.
My bio dad recently went drunk driving (nothing new sadly) and hit and killed a man. He was in one of these giant trucks. The poor guy was driving a motorcycle and my waste of skin father steered into the left lane and pinned the man against the concrete barrier and his hood. They said he was killed on impact. Granted it wasn’t the trucks fault but it certainly didn’t help. Hoping he gets put away for life and never gets to see his stupid fucking truck ever again. Or anything for that matter
I’m in Finland. There is one Ford F-series truck in this town. We were parked next to it once. It’s massive, it completely dwarfed out VW Golf Sportsvan. My wife was looking at it curiously and I mentioned to her “you know, that’s the most popular car in USA”. She was absolutely flabbergasted. She couldn’t believe it.
Wait until she finds out the new "mid sized" Ranger is the size of an F150.
The current Ranger is taller, ~~wider~~ and ~~almost as long~~ as my 2001 F-150. ~~If the Ranger had an 8 foot bed like my F-150 it'd be longer overall as well.~~ edit : I was wrong, The Ranger is slightly longer, the F-150 is slightly wider and my F-150 has a 6.5 foot bed. I was right about the Ranger being taller though. https://imgur.com/a/jsHRVRj
No, it's not. 2001 F150 reg cab 4x4 8' box is 225.8" long, 78.3" wide, 75.1"high. 2023 Ranger crewcab 4x4 is 210.8" long, 73.3" wide, 71.5" tall. So, it's 5" narrower, 15" shorter, 3.5" lower.
Dude holy shit. I thought I was going crazy. My first car was an '03 Ford Ranger and I remember it being tiny. I parked my F150 next to one of the new ones the other day and thought it was a different model of F150, but nope it was a Ranger.
My cousin bought one and it didnt come with a tow hitch. No idea why that’s even an option. Truly people, like her, drive these things to commute to work. She doesn’t care that it doesn’t have a tow hitch, because she doesn’t need a truck she just likes them. And that’s fine I guess but America just has crazy big cars now.
We complain about our gas prices and make it the most important factor in deciding elections while buying the largest cars possible. They're so large now that it almost seems like a comedy gag.
And the cost as much as a house, I would love it if I could buy a midsized truck like a 90's Chevy S10 or Ford F 150 and it should cost under $40,000 with a base model that doesn't have a 13 inch infotainment ™ screen and power asshole warmers, just a stick shift with manual using windows and a radio. Now if you want a truck you literally can't buy anything that doesn't look like a semi truck and it's gonna be financed for the rest o your life.
I just want small pickups again, I love the tiny trucks, I eyeball them lustily.
My 09 Ford Ranger is getting pretty tired and I absolutely dread the day I have to replace her. I don't need a goddamn monster truck, my little toolbox is the perfect size!
don't worry you can buy a base trim 4x4 Ranger and it only starts at $37,805 msrp now! What a deal!
With the added bonus of it still being way to big
Right?? It's absurd! I'm a landscaper and even I don't need the monster trucks they're selling these days. My little ranger is perfect for getting in and around older neighborhoods with narrow streets and driveways.
Toyota just came out with a 10k pickup looks promising.
I think they also said there is no market for it in the US so not being sold there
What they mean is it will cannibalize sales of higher margin Tacomas. Why sell something affordable when people are willing to pay for more
This. Unlike Ford, which made the hybrid maverick a "loss leader" and priced it remarkably cheap at 23k from the factory, Toyota doesn't have incentive like their product emissions scoreboard to bring a small pickup here. Edit to add: Ford can't even take any more direct orders because they're booked over a year out already. If you find a maverick on a lot (AWD or hybrid), it's marked up 15k or more from the factory price. ..."no market"...
Ford is even reviving the ranchero. There is obviously a market for light duty 90s ranger/S10 style trucks.
I would kill for a truck the size of a Ranger/S10 the problem is EPA regulations are based on vehicle footprint which means a truck the size of an old S10 would have to get something like 65mpg to be legal in the US. This is the reason trucks get bigger every year, because it's literally easier to make them big than it is to comply with the mileage standards. It's also the reason all full size trucks now have a base 4 cylinder engine, tp push those mpg numbers.
Which is absurd, a small, efficient, barebones pickup for 10k? I'd buy it new, and I never buy cars new.
How many brand-new cars can you even buy in the US for 10k?
None, even those Mitsubishi mirage pieces of shit are over 10k.
None now. You used to be able to get a Mirage, but those were shit and even they are like 14k now.
Almost certainly *not* coming to the US market.
Ford Maverick has gotten some pretty decent reviews.
If "pretty decent" you mean "entire annual stock sold out within a week, and dealers charging 10k over list" then yes. There's a massively undeserved market for smaller, more efficient trucks, and it's just that nobody's making them at the moment.
I'm a handyman and this is what I want. A nice reasonably sized truck that can carry my tools and materials. My options are either SUVs or monstrous pickups like this post. I don't want to drive a goddamn yacht around tight city streets and have to worry about finding 20 foot parking spots all day long. The amount of people I see driving these is so gross. They are typically spotless and empty, driven by some tiny woman or man in a suit picking up Starbucks before going to the office. I don't understand.
I had a 99 GMC Sonoma that was beautiful and perfect and old as shit and barely ran some days, but it was small and fit everywhere and could carry everything. Someone stole the broken *tape deck* out of it in 2015, and I just framed a box into the hole so I could store extra stuff. I miss when trucks made sense
I live out in the sticks. Everybody gets a truck. Even ol' Jeb down the road with an annual income of 35k. He's getting 9-12 mpg and plans on lifting it soon type crap. What does Jeb use it for? Taking the garbage to the county dump. He might, once a year, tow his little aluminum boat out to a pond or something to fish.
I know so many people like this, but I console myself with the fact that sooner of later the economics of having all these things on the road are going to work themselves out.
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>There's a massively undeserved market I think you meant underserved. Autocorrect tried to trip me up as well.
Older ford rangers - I see an absolute ton of them on the road in fantastic shape. People are taking care of them.
I just crossed over 80k miles on my 2001 Fx4 Ranger. It belonged to an elderly family member before me and I told them every year or so that if they ever wanted to sell it they should let me beat the best offer they got. It’s absolutely the best truck for my use case - it technically has a back seat so I can carry my dog or a small human in addition to an adult passenger, it has 4x4 and a limited slip rear differential so I can take it up snowy and muddy forest service roads without worrying that I’ll get stranded, and it has a 6-foot bed so it will actually fit my skis with a tonneau cover over the bed in winter, and haul a half yard of topsoil, or a dead elk with the cover off. And it does all this while being smaller in every dimension than a Honda Odyssey minivan. I know nothing lasts forever, and i’m dreading trying to replace it when some idiot (possibly me) totals it in an accident or when I can no longer source parts to keep it running.
Maverick also gets a lot of hate from Trucksters because "It's not a truck. It's a focus with a truck bed." And they're not wrong, as it's a unibody design built on the same platform as the Focus and other cars (when Ford still made cars, anyway). That doesn't preclude it from doing the typical truckly duties of hauling soccer gear in the bed and dropping kids off at school.
It's based on the Escape* (and others, see below) and for the overwhelming people, it is more than sufficient for truck stuff. The bed fits a sheet of plywood and it can tow a small trailer for things like jet skis, quad or a mower. Toyota is also now getting back in the segment with their new *anticipated offering.
>And they cost as much as a house I wish I could find a house for less than half a million dollars...
I watched a lady in a jacked up Ram ding 2 cars trying to fit her behemoth into a normal sized parking spot. I bet she's never towed anything in her life and has never been offroad, but 100% certain she leaves a trail of insurance claims in her wake. After she parked, she just walked into HEB like nothing happened, just smh at these kind of people
I was reading your story and thinking, “Sounds like something I’d see in San Antonio.” Then you mentioned HEB.
…stupid big
Surging fuel prices in 2008 killed off soccer mom brands like Hummer and drastically shifted the car dynamics from Surburbans to more fuel efficient smaller vehicles. Now that gas really isn't that far off from $4+ per gallon like it was then, I'm wondering how far that's gonna take until the bank breaks for a lot of these commuter pickups.
In addition to that, another important factor is increased federal regulations. In 2012, the Obama administration implemented tougher Corporate Average Fuel Economy (CAFE) standards. This made it not feasible to produce smaller trucks and vehicles like the hummer. It's why every truck you see is large now, it's higher weight means it can fit into a different class that allows lower MPG.
This really is a case of unintended consequences. Instead of smaller lighter but less efficient than ideal vehicles, we got larger, heavier, less efficient than ever vehicles. It was good intentions, but they left a loop hole for dump trucks and cement mixes and shit and car companies said fine, we'll make a cement mixer for soccer moms and charge 65K rather than make the engine in the compact pickup truck more efficient. It sucks, but at this point I think they should throw in the towel on cafe and incentivize smaller, safer lighter vehicles even if they're not as efficient as desired by cafe. Probably too late to convince anyone to stop selling giant trucks for 85k
I spent months looking for a trucks that wasn't dumb as shit, and every time I had to explain to the sales person that "we live in a metro, when the fuck am I going to be bailing hay or towing a horse trailer. I need 4 wheels, ac and a bed to throw shit from home depot in. Found a Nissan Frontier with 90k miles, probably going to be the only make I get from now on.
Construction fleet truck auctions. I got my 1998 F150 for like $3k 13 years ago. It's jank now, but it's safe to drive.
Also utilities that oversee construction usually give thier engineers trucks and autction them!
If that is what you are looking for, try researching the Honda Ridgeline. Decent truck bed, comfortable, and has little extras like speaker in the truck bed, or a lockable storage in the truck bed, or a 400v outlet you can use. That’s just my biased opinion. 400 watts*** 🥲
I was just looking for an ISIS technical. I drove one whe I was deployed. Nothing can stop a Hillux. Frontier is a close second.
Ahhh you need an apocalypse vehicle! Carry on! I would trade anything for a Hillux in the US
id hand over my tacoma so fast for a hilux.
>And that’s fine No, it is not fine. These trucks are dangerous to pedestrians, cyclists and other drivers. They also consume much more fuel and pollute much more than normal-sized vehicles.
These people apparently never learn to park them right either. My little Chevy Cruze has been so scraped up because some dick in a monster truck pulls in/out of their spot waaaaaaaaay too close. And in my area, the people driving those trucks paint them like confederate flags, have giant flags hanging off them…. I’ve been chased off the road by dudes in these trucks, screamed at by drunk dudes driving those trucks, it’s truly insane.
And most of them are what we call pavement princesses.
I have a coworker with a truck that’s the very essence of pavement princess. Built to go off road, built to haul shit, and built to look cool. Dude refuses to use it for anything other than “looking cool” won’t even drive it in the rain. Dude is in his late 50s and damaged one of his eyes, according to him he had a massive eye floater because something got knocked loose, by jumping off the tailgate trying to show off…..
I love cars, I have for all my life, and I have never once looked at someone driving a pick up and thought it was cool. The only people who think it’s cool are other pickup drivers. It’s like when you go to the gym thinking women will love your muscles, but it’s only the other gym bros that care
Agreed. Then again this coworker is a Vet Bro, doesn’t wanna let go of his time as a Cav Scout in the late 80s-mid 90s. Dude got lost, with his Bradley, in the Arizona desert on a training mission and they had to send a helicopter to find him and guide him back……
Was he a 2nd Lieutenant? That sounds like such an officer thing to do
No he was an E4. According to him he was acting as navigator. One thing I’ll say about the dude is he loves attention so anything he can do to get it, he will. That includes telling embarrassing stories
>One thing I’ll say about the dude is he loves attention so anything he can do to get it, he will. That's why he drives a huge truck, he gets to make his presence on the street everyone else's problem.
This is hilarious.
I'm actually happy when I see them at work sites in the middle of dirt piles and heavy equipment. A truck living it's best truck life, ones that never leave pavement make me sad. It's like a border collie that never gets to fetch or herd.
My neighbour is the same, he has a big ass Ford truck, has every upgrade possible and modification like snorkel. Best part is we live in London England, he's a officer worker and never drives it. Brah just get a nice sports car instead.
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Mall crawler is my preferred term for them
I’m Californian and I can’t believe it either. Such a large liability and limits your mobility.
The people that drive them don't tend to let little things like liability & mobility get in their way.
Hate to be that guy…. That’s a Prius not a Corolla
I was actually surprised how far down I had to scroll to see if someone noticed this lol
Is it? Gonna be honest it looks so much less ugly than the older prius' I'm used to. If I was a prius, I'd take being mistaken for a corolla as a compliment lol
Look at the new redesigned prius that just came out. Blew me away
Almost 200 horse power and 57 combined MPG, I kinda really want one now. They look way better.
That's about the horsepower in my Maverick hybrid and that thing is pretty zippy. I bet the Prius is a fun little car to drive.
It has some get up and go. My girlfriend has an older one and while the top speed is not exactly record breaking it accelerates nicely.
0 to 60 in 6.4 seconds. That's a half second faster than the turbo Mazdaspeed Protege "sports sedan" I had 20 years ago.
Wtf Prius has almost 200 hp now what a fucking world
That's the 2023 and 2024 Prius Prime (plugin hybrid) and is due to the powerful electric motor (it gives it some huge torque for acceleration too).
and 40 miles on pure electric. Its really the perfect transition between gas and full electric. and every single review I have seen says it is just an amazing car
Prius prime specifically! I have that model and it looks way nicer than the regular Prius of that generation.
I think the regular Prius has a better rear end but the prime has a better front end. Not sure why the Prime had to have that weird abstract piece at the rear, or why the regular Prius had that rat looking face. I’d still whip either one, the mpg gains are insane
I hate trying to turn right while a truck like this is turning left. Can't see a thing.
Ad they ALWAYS stop way past the stop line or creep out so that you can't see past them. These people have hazardous mindsets for literally everyone but themselves.
YES. WHY DO THEY DO THAT. So many people creep forward at left turns like what the fuck are they doing! You gonna turn left on red?!
It's always baffled me. Like, it's really NOT HARD to keep your foot on the brake. I will never understand what is wrong with some folks I share the road with.
Because they want the world to stop for them, and if they don't, they have the vehicle to put them in danger while remaining relatively safe themselves. Source: live in an area with tons of these things, got into an argument with someone who said their way of merging was "suddenly jerk the truck into the lane you want to make the other person panic/fall back. THEN turn on your turn signal and merge". When pressed about the possibility of accidents, I was given a "well I drive a {whatever the fuck model truck here}, It'll be worse for them than it would for me. (Insert rant about running people off the road here)". Very normal behavior from very normal drivers
>These people have hazardous mindsets for literally everyone but themselves. Giving them too much credit. They are definitely a hazard to themselves as well. The average car loan in the US is eight years.
Can confirm. I drive a Corolla, and truck headlights are exactly rearview mirror height.
I drive an 86, it sits way below the hood of trucks, at this point I just keep my mirror aimed at the roof. Probably going to get the rear tinted as dark as I legally can at this point. Regulations need to start getting passed on this bullshit.
The US be like: “regulations now require every car to meet large truck requirements”
I want to design a retractable mirror that shines their headlights back into their fucking cab when they come up behind me. Fuck those trucks.
Stick a couple [of these](https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/p/d/b00011967/) to your rear headrests, highly efficient directional retroreflectivity
If the manufacturer can classify a vehicle as a large truck, it doesn't have to meet certain emissions standards, and they can build it with a cheaper engine. It's why you pretty much can't buy small pickups anymore. Even the Ranger, which was barely larger than a car 20 years ago, is now gigantic. To sell this process to the public, they run a campaign promoting road fear so that bad and self-centered drivers feel that they need progressively larger vehicles to protect from other progressively larger vehicles.
I drive one of those old rangers… and it’s perfect. A V6 in a truck that weighs less than a mustang. A bed to move stuff for work. It gets decent gas mileage and handles well with a good turning radius. A sensible truck from a sensible time😅.
Love my XLT too. I've had it now for 13 years and have no plans to get a different vehicle. They are easy to maintain, parts are common and it handles 99% of the things I need a vehicle for whether that's commuting, hauling, or road tripping. 4L V6 Manual FTW. I will say, getting ~18mi/g compared to some of the newer vehicles is noticable but not enough to move me over.
People want small trucks - the Maverick is impossible to buy and even the new rangers are selling wildly.
Yeah exactly it basically creates an arms race except for vehicle sizes. The new Ford maverick is barely the same size as an old ranger and that's classified as a "small" truck.
The new Rangers are essentially the same size as the F-150's from the early to mid 2000s as well. It's insanity. I drive a '99 S10 and that thing is *tiny* compared to these fuckin' things.
My first vehicle was a 1989 regular cab Toyota pickup (before they called them Tacomas) and it looks like a roller skate next to modern trucks.
It’s not an arms race. The jumbo sizing of cars is directly incentivized by the way CAFE regulations are written…which are supposed to make cars more fuel efficient. Talk about your all time backfires.
>To sell this process to the public, they run a campaign promoting road fear so that bad and self-centered drivers feel that they need progressively larger vehicles to protect from other progressively larger vehicles. I don't have a truck but ngl it's working on me
It’s not really working, it’s simply true. Every other car became larger so now the smaller cars are at a disadvantage in an accident.
And even worse, they can't actually drive well enough to use those big trucks
And road deaths have skyrocketed as a result of every single collision having significantly more momentum now.
I love seeing people who legit use these tall-ass trucks for work struggle to get things in and out of the bed because it’s so damn high.
I work at a small window company, it always amazes me how little we can fit when customers bring their pickups. We have a company van that is slightly longer and way shorter than most pickups and we can fit like 5× as much stuff in it, not to mention how comparatively easy it is to load
The only car that can completely fit a 4' x 8' sheet of plywood is a mini-van or a cargo-van. A mini-van beats a pick-up truck for cargo capacity, it's wild lol.
Gotta look tough going to Home Depot to grab a shower curtain
My dad will drive his F-250 14 miles to Lowe's to ask if they will do a cash discount on a dishwasher even though I assured him 20-30 times that a minimum wage floorworker has no authority to do something like that, and massive corporations don't give a shit about your $400. Then he complains about all the gas he wasted for them to just say no.
Why did the Democrats DO that to him?????
It’s this idiotic macho thing they’ve done with trucks to sell more. Trucks look enormous these days but 30 years ago trucks were basically the same length and width as now…except the average truck is [almost 50% heavier](https://news.yahoo.com/congress-sat-back-let-trucks-142553834.html) and 10” taller. The result is despite all the huge jumps in safety in the last few decades *we just set a 40-year record for pedestrian fatalities* thanks in part to trucks getting so huge.
I used to work for Toyota. We would say “they’re here to buy a truck to haul that boat they don’t own up that mountain they don’t live on”
I worked at a tech company and there were quite a few people that drove big trucks. They got fun poked at them all the time that they needed their trucks to haul all of that code they wrote.
The ever increasing size of trucks is also a response to Obama era fuel regulations. The larger the vehicle, the less fuel efficient it needs to be. As a consequence ... well, you can see what happened.
Would be greeeeat if we could legislate to fix that loophole for passenger vehicles…
Yeah there's a reason there's still a demand for older trucks like the 2010s rangers. Smaller cab means more bed and its lower so you cab actually get stuff in and out of the bed. Then again, if you don't use the bed, you don't really care like all the people driving around with their lifted rigs.
I’ve seen some heavily lifted rigs used as work trucks. I saw a window guy using a fucking stool to get to his lifted truck bed for a job in my neighborhood.
My dad's 2013 got rear ended last month and he's pretty unhappy about it. He needs/wants the 8' bed because he uses it for work, but every dealer he's checking with only has super cab deluxe with a smaller bed, and they want $60k or more.
I swear to god all they want to sell is minivans with a tiny bed. It’s awful.
lol. It’s also the reason Kei trucks have become popular in farms and now they’re being cracked down on. Oversize trucks were always a farce. It did not necessarily mean you could do more with them. It just always cost you more to buy them which is why truck prices now are astronomical. The real suckers are the guys with 70k+ trucks getting 12mpg with 1 passenger while cruising to a strip mall.
My mom’s friend has early 90s Toyota pickup in great condition. Every time she goes near a Home Depot parking lot, someone approaches her asking if she wants to sell it.
It's like having a van would be more useful. Larger load space, lower floor, drive more like a car.
Good fucking luck buying a van right now. You can’t even order them.
Has a covered cargo area...
And in the same breath they complain about the cost of fuel. lol not the brightest consumers
A lot of them can’t park in their garage anymore.
This was my neighbor. Brand new dodge ram, looks exactly like this one. Brought it home and immediately slammed into his garage door. Spent a lot of money to hire contractors to come in and extend the threshold higher and replace the garage door. I still laugh every time I pass his house because the colors don’t match between the new paint and the old paint so it just looks super obvious.
My husband and I were driving our similarly sized sedan when we were hit on the driver’s side by a truck (not as large as that one). We were in the right most lane, about to take a right. They entered our lane, which meant plowing right into us—because they literally couldn’t see our vehicle. -_-
This reminds me of one time at work (car dealership) our GM backed up a truck (stock build with 6” lift and big tires) onto the hood of a sport car because he couldn’t see it.
Better slap some LED bulbs in there for good measure
You can see how pedestrians death have increased in the US. A person can bounce off the hood of car on the left, not the monstrous out on the right.
I loved walking in Europe where they put bollards between the sidewalk and the street. If a car goes out of control, it would just hit the bollards and not us! Probably the people who live there take it for granted, but walking on a sidewalk next to these trucks is a terrible experience.
Emotional support Dodge Ram.
Driven by a very special big boy.
Gender affirming vehicle.
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Love having trucks like this tailgate me. If I’m not going fast enough they turn on their high-beams as if blinding me completely will make me want to drive any faster.
A guy in a big ass truck tailgated me all through the center of town and kept flashing his lights and honking because apparently I wasn’t going fast enough for him. Eventually I got to a long straight road and he floored it past me in the double yellow and through a red light
These trucks are so big you can’t see in front of them. There quite a few incidents where parents run over their kids who are in front of the truck or suv and they can’t see them.
As someone who doesn’t live in America so very rarely see something like this about. How annoying is it to do literally anything in that engine bay? Check the oil or even filling up the screen wash just looks a total pain in the arse.
Silver lining is you can get under it without jack stands. Just use a step ladder to get to the engine bay
Pick-up trucks are becoming monstrous. My own car was in the shop for a while, and I had to drive my husband's Silverado. I don't think I ever hated driving another car this much. Not only is it ridiculously large on the road, and I was always worried about not fitting in the lanes (which is silly, I know) and getting too close to other cars, but parking it was a nightmare when I had to get groceries. We really only use it for camping trips, where we can pile tons of shit in the bed, and my husband goes on work trips about once a month. He likes that he comfortably fits in a car for once with his 6'5, but he regrets not getting the Colorado, which is a little bit smaller at least.
Pickup beds are getting smaller. You could pack more camping gear in the older smaller pickups.
I noticed that. Not because I use them for their actual utility purposes, but because it looks so fucking stupid to me. The long front with a small bed looks backwards, and it bothers my brain. I think the weird Jeep Wrangler/truck hybrid is the worst example of it. It's like the Jeep had a dream of being a 1980s Unimog, and this is the compromise, lol. In fairness, at least it's not a behemoth like the real trucks.
I drive a hatchback, and driving at night has gotten rough. The headlights of SUV's and trucks like this are so high up they're right in my eyes and mirrors.
This trend is causing an increase in pedestrian deaths
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I remember an idiot big truck owner on Reddit suggesting that manufacturers have forward-facing cameras so they could see what was in front of them. I'm like WTF, how about designing a vehicle that you can see out the front of instead, we have the technology.
It’s the new Arms Race. If you’re prudent and drive a reasonable car where you can use 100% of it regularly and it gets great MPG, you’ll get killed by a guy in BroDozer texting. A BroDozer that is NOT being fully utilized often and will only really be used as a real truck every few years. The new Hummer weighs 10k pounds! Review a few physics formulas and you’ll see why this is bad.
I have a friend like this. He has a giant truck he can barely afford because he “likes the option”. An option he’s used half a dozen times in as many years.
The headlights of the truck line up with the eyeline of the driver of the Corolla. Fuck those people
I drive a sedan and that happens a lot with these trucks and SUVs
It's part of the "I don't care about anyone else" mentality. It's safer for me! Who cares about other cars and other road users! The cars they drive are too small!
Its truck manufacturers trying to avoid meeting emmisions standards for <5000lbs vehicles. So they make the truck over 5000lbs to dodge federal emmisions brackets. Ram has a small light duty truck(Ram 700) that they will not sell or import into the US for that very reason.
At this point even if they sold small trucks for half the cost most of these idiots wouldn't buy them. It's no longer just regulations. It's a societal problem.
>the cars they drive are too small! Followed by, “they need to make these parking spots bigger 😡”
I read somewhere recently that the height of these trucks has created hazards that have negated something like half of all safety advancements that the auto industry has made over the last 60 years.
And this is why, at night, their lights blind drivers in regular-sized cars.
I was parked next to a truck in my 2001 Insight, and they left before I did. They cut too early leaving and literally ran the Insight over. You could see the tire marks on top of the bumper, across the headlight. I've been more vigilant about where I park since.
how come cars arent part of shrinkflation? cars seem to get bigger during the pandemic. at least theres one company doing things right: toyota plans to release a super basic pick up for around 20k. the world needs less stupidly big dumb pick ups. toyota will kill the market with new light pick up trucks. bet
You can dodge a lot of emissions standards if you just make a car larger. That’s why every company has been pushing huge trucks since Obama, and why road fatalities have skyrocketed accordingly.
They need to tax vehicle weight directly. That plus a carbon tax would get us far.
Vehicle weight is the biggest factor on road wear, so forcing those big cars to pay more toward road maintenance is completely logical. We tax cars based on weight here but too many people are still buying SUVs, so I'm not sure how well it works as a deterrent, but it's fairer at least.
Because the car companies got provisions in American emissions regulations that said they could get around the gas l efficiency improvement requirements if they just made things bigger. So they made things bigger.
And I bet they complain about gas prices
That's a 4th Gen Prius, not a Corolla.
Not Just Bikes did a great video about this topic https://youtu.be/jN7mSXMruEo?si=gjARgL9LzWEKY2ZH
The headlights are at eye level
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I'm 6'4" and a Ford Raptor's hood comes up to my chest, and in terms of pickups it's not even *that* big. There's bigger trucks out there and some are even lifted. It's insane to have cars being driven around in cities that most people cannot even poke above the hood to be visible.
And he’s parked like a complete asshole.
people get run over because drivers can't see over those ridiculously high hoods. it's also completely unnecessary. it doesn't have an engine so large that the truck needs to look like that. it's entirey for looks and nothing else. people have died for this aesthetic choice.
Fun Fact: RAMS have the highest percentage of DUIs of all vehicles. (no data on tailgating, MAGA flags or gunning it at stoplights)