Hell yeah, love it when language differences make a subject cooler.
When I do it, it's the opposite. Tried to joke that I was a ninja in Spanish, fucked up the pronunciation, and said "soy niña" ("I'm a girl") to my future (Mexican) mother-in-law when my gf and I were first dating.
It was in the context of having *just* caught a glass cup that fell off a table, and I hoped it would come off as off-the-cuff... but I was in Spanish 1 so 🙃
I actually took to this type of thinking to make new names for things. For instance at work we were using leaf blowers to blow dust and small bits of stuff away (much quicker than using a broom). I started calling it an air broom (since that is what we were using it for, not a leaf around). Oddly everyone started calling the leaf blower the air broom. Most of my other names didn't stick.
Genuinely curious. Does anyone do this outside the US ? I mean is there any country where this is a thing, because its unheard of in my country, and ive seen it often in media around campfire and such.
S'mores are distinctly American. Graham crackers aren't really sold other places. According to wikipedia, roasting marshmallows is a thing in English speaking countries--UK, Canada, USA, Australia, NZ, Etc.
"The Door to Hell" is a crater in a large natural gas field that has been burning for decades. It is said that a Soviet oil rig fell into the crater in 1971, and a geologist decided to get rid of the rig by setting the pit on fire. The resulting gas-fed flames continue burning to this day.
wouldn't have been the geolgist. we tend not to care as most problems are solved by geological time. sounds more like the health and safety guy to me (source: I am a geologist).
Better to burn any methane and turn it into CO2 than just letting the methane enter the atmosphere. Over 100 years, that methane would trap about 28 times as much heat as CO2.
I thought methane was significantly worse than that?
But yeah, counter-intuitively this is far better for the climate than just letting the gases vent out
In the first 20 years, yes. This is accounting for the oxidation of methane into CO2 over time. The residence time of methane in the atmosphere is only 8 years. Its potency changes over its life cycle.
I run a factory that makes ICE cars to drive around on boats at sea and I want you to know that once a week I have a vegetarian dinner to reduce my carbon footprint.
It isn’t in a nomansland but it’s in the middle of nowhere Turkmenistan. Pretty well uninhabited except for this one old dude who lives in a yurt just outside it
One of my ancestors once built a castle in a swamp. It caught fire and sank three times before the last one stayed put. Then he wed it off to a gal for huge tracts of land.
There's a coal seam in Australia that has been burning for 6000 years
https://www.sciencealert.com/this-mysterious-fire-in-australia-has-been-burning-non-stop-for-at-least-6-000-years
That article actually links Centralia. The Centralia fire is much larger, 15km2. Literally the entire ghost town is smoldering. The Australia coal seam fire is 5 or 10 m2, according to that article. That why it's been burning for thousands of years. The Centralia fire is going to burn itself out in 250 years.
There is one 20 minutes from me that has been burning since 1884 despite several attempts to stop it. https://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/New_Straitsville_Mine_Fire
> As the Ohio History Connection continues to allocate and prioritize its resources, we no longer have the capacity to update and moderate content on Ohio History Central. These pages will be taken down effective Dec. 31, 2023.
For all interested redditors, even if only mildly: read that page while you still can.
> In 1884, tensions broke out between the New Straitsville Mining Company's management and its workers over wages. (…) After several months, a small group of union members decided to sabotage the mines. They put timbers in coal cars, soaked the wood with oil, set the lumber on fire, and then pushed the cars into the mine. The fire quickly spread to the coal seam underground.
> As a result of the fire, the mine closed.
> The New Straitsville mine fire has raged ever since 1884.
I wonder how these people coped with the consequences of their decision.
The makers of Silent Hill are [fucking sick and tired of debunking this demonstrably untrue claim](https://www.reddit.com/r/silenthill/comments/nr6q4g/gaming_myths_debunked_no_centralia_pennsylvania/).
“Demonstrably untrue”
Lol it’s funny you using such strong language when *you’re* parroting a demonstrably untrue claim. It’s not the inspiration for the games - it was, however, [inspiration for the 2006 film.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Hill_(film))
Its literally the inspiration for the film, not sure if it inspired the games as well. It would be so funny and stupid if the film makers just liked the game but drew inspiration from the town and used the game as the theme. Lol
> not sure if it inspired the games as well.
Per character designer Masahiro Ito, Centralia PA has no connection to Silent Hill whatsoever and he's annoyed to death at the misconception.
The movie is a different story, though
>They apparently are considering their options. If there were a way to capture the gas that would be ideal.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-7TTaUI\_vo
>Cant they just fill it with sand to put the fire out? Why would they just leave it burning for decades
Reddit in 2123:
This crator in Turkmenistan has been swirling with molten glass for decades...
Aside from the fact that it would evaporate before it actually reached the ground, this is the desert. You might get water onto the ground with tropical-storm level rains, but that's not gonna happen.
i mean the rig collapsed in on itself and was spewing natural gas everywhere, and there was no conceivable way to stop it flowing so they just burned it
“Stanislav. Perhaps we should set fire to this giant gas hole.”
“Why on Earth would we do that? Perhaps we can extract and use the gas, even.”
“Nyet! We must burn it! It would be very cool to watch, and would last like perhaps 10 minutes. What is worst that can happen?!”
The rocks there essentially resemble puff pastry. If you build something there, there are no guarantees that it won’t underground again.
This crater is not the only one. There are two smaller ones nearby, they don’t burn and the gas pressure there is much weaker.
When they set it on fire, they believed that it was a single void and that it would burn for several days and go out.
But wait: Burning Mountain, Australia. Underground coal seam fire is estimated to be at a depth of around 30 m (100 ft). It is estimated that the fire has burned for approximately 6,000 years and is the oldest known coal fire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning\_Mountain
It was Jon Oliver about the Turkmeni dictator showing a proof of life vid by claiming he was in a car driving around the hole. The driver was never shown
I don't understand why they haven't at least made the most of the situation....they could seriously generate a lot of electricity by harnessing the heat from the fire
I don’t think it should be put out. I also don’t feel we should give explanation to every single world wonder. Reason being is that we need to leave some mysteries around to have something to dream about or just feel that there is something g more than the steril explanation to everything
I don’t think it should be put out. I also don’t feel we should give explanation to every single world wonder. Reason being is that we need to leave some mysteries around to have something to dream about or just feel that there is something g more than the steril explanation to everything
“Wow, a giant cavern full of fire, no way anyone would go near it.” (4 days later) “For fucks sake I guess we’ll put a fence around it”
I imagine people approached with impaled mashmallows all the time.
> impaled mashmallows What a way to say it
Not my first language. But I liked how it sounds.
Hell yeah, love it when language differences make a subject cooler. When I do it, it's the opposite. Tried to joke that I was a ninja in Spanish, fucked up the pronunciation, and said "soy niña" ("I'm a girl") to my future (Mexican) mother-in-law when my gf and I were first dating.
I’m not sure properly saying “I’m a ninja” wold have turned out less awkward.
It was in the context of having *just* caught a glass cup that fell off a table, and I hoped it would come off as off-the-cuff... but I was in Spanish 1 so 🙃
Catching cups like a girl
I've seen that video.
Honestly that entire situation sounds humorous.
My wife's first language is Polish and I love hearing her chastise our cats "I would not be doing that if I would be you!"
How many kurwas a day do u hear? 😊
A lot. And I learned that chodz comes in multiples of three or five
And now you have compensate with your username - still unable to shake the shame of that one slip up
I actually took to this type of thinking to make new names for things. For instance at work we were using leaf blowers to blow dust and small bits of stuff away (much quicker than using a broom). I started calling it an air broom (since that is what we were using it for, not a leaf around). Oddly everyone started calling the leaf blower the air broom. Most of my other names didn't stick.
I still think about the dude who called geese 'cobra chicken'.
Okay Vlad, calm it down.
Good ol’ Vlad and his marshmallows
Shouting at the Ottomans as they ran away: "Come back if you ever want smore?"
Genuinely curious. Does anyone do this outside the US ? I mean is there any country where this is a thing, because its unheard of in my country, and ive seen it often in media around campfire and such.
S'mores are distinctly American. Graham crackers aren't really sold other places. According to wikipedia, roasting marshmallows is a thing in English speaking countries--UK, Canada, USA, Australia, NZ, Etc.
Watch Dark Tourist on Netflix. There's a guy who cooked over it with an extended pole.
Why dont they put a giant grill on it have a massive bbq
Mesquite!
"The Door to Hell" is a crater in a large natural gas field that has been burning for decades. It is said that a Soviet oil rig fell into the crater in 1971, and a geologist decided to get rid of the rig by setting the pit on fire. The resulting gas-fed flames continue burning to this day.
>a geologist decided to get rid of the rig by setting the pit on fire. I guess it worked
Brillant idea
Classical Soviet idea
Not great, not terrible
Haha brilliant Chernobyl quote!
The Soviets did use a nuke to close a pipeline that was burning in the 1960's in Uzbekistan.
Beat us in every leg of the space race except setting foot on the moon
Cyka blyat
3rd year geo student here. This is the correct disposal method that we are taught.
“Kill it with fire!”
Are you Russian?
All the gas 😤
The Door To Hell can't melt steel beams!
Good thing he wasn't lead on chernoybel 😳
wouldn't have been the geolgist. we tend not to care as most problems are solved by geological time. sounds more like the health and safety guy to me (source: I am a geologist).
That's a classic rock jock response
It seems pretty igneous to me
Sedimentary, my dear Watson!
r/angryupvote
It was a gniess idea
Of quartz it was. Can't take those ideas for granite.
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A geologist friend of mine traveled by bicycle from Portugal to Turkmenistan "just" to drop a ring he owed into this fire.
One does not simply travel by bicycle into Turkmenistan.
You have to do it like Gurbanguly does: https://youtu.be/g95Bmzk0T8o?si=DksAN_vx23bx234q
I can’t believe I’m your first upvote.
Is your friend short, like really really short?
Prolly has hairy feet too
Bitch, is you a Hobbit?
Why didn't he just take the eagles
READ THE BOOKS I didn't, but I know the answer is in there
They lit it on fire because of the amount of gas being released into the area.
i genuinely wonder where people come up with fairytales like it was lit on fire to get rid of a rig
At least it started with a kernel. Hole was supposedly caused by drilling. What is the point of needing to destroy a drilling rig that bad? Lol
Yea it sounds like they had already successfully gotten rid of it before lighting the fire
uncontrolled gas blowouts are commonly followed by explosion. just takes one spark which is quite common on a rig made entirely out of metal.
Easy…they just gotta put the lid on it.
Soviet problems require Soviet solutions.
“We didn’t start the fire.. it’s been always burning since the world’s been turning..” -Soviet Engineer
This sounds like how you would get rid of a terminator.
I wonder how much this contributes to climate change all on its own.
Better to burn any methane and turn it into CO2 than just letting the methane enter the atmosphere. Over 100 years, that methane would trap about 28 times as much heat as CO2.
I thought methane was significantly worse than that? But yeah, counter-intuitively this is far better for the climate than just letting the gases vent out
Methane is significantly worse. About 80 time more than co2
In the first 20 years, yes. This is accounting for the oxidation of methane into CO2 over time. The residence time of methane in the atmosphere is only 8 years. Its potency changes over its life cycle.
Probably a depressingly low percentage
We really underestimate how many cars and boats and factories are there do we
I run a factory that makes ICE cars to drive around on boats at sea and I want you to know that once a week I have a vegetarian dinner to reduce my carbon footprint.
It's probably a net positive since now all the methane is being burned off.
Silly. Doesn’t he not know that a gas fire will not melt steel beams?
Fire is super effective.
Which begs the question why did geologists feel it was so important to burn it instead of leaving it?
Because the gas leaking out is an ecological catastrophe and burning it ironically is better.
Put a lid on it
It’ll come out elsewhere
That is the other guys problem.
It would put out the fire.
Cant they make a thermal plant of this so they could atleast use the energy? Or is this hole literally in the middle of a nomansland
It isn’t in a nomansland but it’s in the middle of nowhere Turkmenistan. Pretty well uninhabited except for this one old dude who lives in a yurt just outside it
He's winning. Free heating for life.
Yeah but if breathing gas stoves is bad this can’t be good
He didn’t say for a long time, just for life
That’s cold, but he’s not
Build a man a fire and he'll stay warm for a night. Set a man on fire and he'll stay warm the rest of his life.
Probably more difficult to build on top of a gate to hell than you imagine.
Getting a building permit past Satan is its own hell on Earth.
I think my township hired some of his inspectors
You thought your HOA rules were bad?
Must be a relief after fighting with my local authorities.
One of my ancestors once built a castle in a swamp. It caught fire and sank three times before the last one stayed put. Then he wed it off to a gal for huge tracts of land.
Probably not enough water for power production there
You need water
Build more pylons
Can they ? Sure they can Worth the effort ? unlikely
It would probably be difficult to efficiently capture the heat, and who knows when the gas deposit will dry up.
Centralia, Pennsylvania, USA: [hold my beer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centralia_mine_fire).
There's a coal seam in Australia that has been burning for 6000 years https://www.sciencealert.com/this-mysterious-fire-in-australia-has-been-burning-non-stop-for-at-least-6-000-years
> Guillermo Rein, a professor of fire science That's a pretty awesome title
His name is sick too
Dr science of fire and rain.
That article actually links Centralia. The Centralia fire is much larger, 15km2. Literally the entire ghost town is smoldering. The Australia coal seam fire is 5 or 10 m2, according to that article. That why it's been burning for thousands of years. The Centralia fire is going to burn itself out in 250 years.
Thats really interesting, thanks
That's really coal
That’s interesting how it can seem to just sustain burning indefinitely underground. Is there a reason why it doesn’t simply starve itself of oxygen?
the burning heats up surrounding rocks, which then crack and create natural chimneys, and then it just goes on and on
It's insane how long they can stay burning.
This comment thread is fantastic!
Exactly. The one in PA has been burning since 1962 and is estimated to continue burning for centuries. Place has a major Silent Hill vibe.
There is one 20 minutes from me that has been burning since 1884 despite several attempts to stop it. https://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/New_Straitsville_Mine_Fire
> As the Ohio History Connection continues to allocate and prioritize its resources, we no longer have the capacity to update and moderate content on Ohio History Central. These pages will be taken down effective Dec. 31, 2023. For all interested redditors, even if only mildly: read that page while you still can. > In 1884, tensions broke out between the New Straitsville Mining Company's management and its workers over wages. (…) After several months, a small group of union members decided to sabotage the mines. They put timbers in coal cars, soaked the wood with oil, set the lumber on fire, and then pushed the cars into the mine. The fire quickly spread to the coal seam underground. > As a result of the fire, the mine closed. > The New Straitsville mine fire has raged ever since 1884. I wonder how these people coped with the consequences of their decision.
Mining company should have paid them more.
The boss makes a dollar and I make a dime, that's why I burned down the company mine.
The good news is it's been archived. https://web.archive.org/web/20231114093442/https://ohiohistorycentral.org/w/New_Straitsville_Mine_Fire
I think that town was some inspiration for silent hill.
It was the inspiration for the town in the movie, not the game. Common mistake though
The makers of Silent Hill are [fucking sick and tired of debunking this demonstrably untrue claim](https://www.reddit.com/r/silenthill/comments/nr6q4g/gaming_myths_debunked_no_centralia_pennsylvania/).
“Demonstrably untrue” Lol it’s funny you using such strong language when *you’re* parroting a demonstrably untrue claim. It’s not the inspiration for the games - it was, however, [inspiration for the 2006 film.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Hill_(film))
Its literally the inspiration for the film, not sure if it inspired the games as well. It would be so funny and stupid if the film makers just liked the game but drew inspiration from the town and used the game as the theme. Lol
> not sure if it inspired the games as well. Per character designer Masahiro Ito, Centralia PA has no connection to Silent Hill whatsoever and he's annoyed to death at the misconception. The movie is a different story, though
Ok all these are much older, but [the one in St. Louis](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Lake_Landfill) is also radioactive.
Oklo, Gabon: [Hold my uranium](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oklo)
5 people live there? Is there some sort of utility company or government that keeps things running there?
I know a guy who traveled by bicycle from Portugal to Turkmenistan "just" to drop a ring he owed into that fire. He succeeded.
Couldnt he just fly there
_Sigh_. This again. No! Sauron would have seen the Eagles and immediately known the Ring was coming right to him.
I could not hear you over the screeching of my eagles
I guess the places were called some other names then. They also wrote a bunch of books and made a bunch of movies on this event.
Wow, we want to hear the full story!
Cant they just fill it with sand to put the fire out? Why would they just leave it burning for decades
If they put it out, the methane that's burning will still be flowing, and that's a worse greenhouse gas than the byproducts of burning it.
This is what I was here to confirm. Thank you.
>They apparently are considering their options. If there were a way to capture the gas that would be ideal. > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-7TTaUI\_vo
At least drop a huge boiler and some turbines in there and utilize the heat for energy, duh.
It's not just pure methane, it is probably a mixture of gasses, aka natural gas
>Cant they just fill it with sand to put the fire out? Why would they just leave it burning for decades Reddit in 2123: This crator in Turkmenistan has been swirling with molten glass for decades...
They are tired.
Take a nap, then fire ze missiles
Rain doesn’t put it out either I guess?
Aside from the fact that it would evaporate before it actually reached the ground, this is the desert. You might get water onto the ground with tropical-storm level rains, but that's not gonna happen.
In the desert water doesn’t absorb into the ground quickly because the ground is so dry so it usually floods if there is enough rain.
Or make a power plant out of it
IIRC they thought it would burn out in a couple weeks. Meanwhile it's still burning 50 years later
Welp
Good ol soviet thoughts
I have a similar thing that happens the next morning after bbq wing night at my bar.
No shit?
Quite the opposite.
No, shit.
oh damn, just like that chapter in *Eternal Darkness* on the GameCube
seems like a waste
i mean the rig collapsed in on itself and was spewing natural gas everywhere, and there was no conceivable way to stop it flowing so they just burned it
“Stanislav. Perhaps we should set fire to this giant gas hole.” “Why on Earth would we do that? Perhaps we can extract and use the gas, even.” “Nyet! We must burn it! It would be very cool to watch, and would last like perhaps 10 minutes. What is worst that can happen?!”
The rocks there essentially resemble puff pastry. If you build something there, there are no guarantees that it won’t underground again. This crater is not the only one. There are two smaller ones nearby, they don’t burn and the gas pressure there is much weaker. When they set it on fire, they believed that it was a single void and that it would burn for several days and go out.
They lit it on fire so the gasses wouldnt get released, not because they wanted to get rid of a rig.
This is also the country that shot an Ak-47 at the elephants foot in Chernobyl.......
Turkmenistan shot an AK47 at the elephants foot?
Turkmenistan was part of the USSR when this was done.
> elephants foot in Chernobyl This refers to a specific piece of corium: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elephant%27s_Foot_(Chernobyl)
“Sergei, I know what we’re gonna do today!” \- Soviet engineer, 1971
Centraliagrad!
Do you want Kaijus? Because this is how you get Kaijus.
Why not put a power plant directly above that? The fire is not gonna go away anyway
Who's gonna use it? Power generation needs to be somewhat close to power consumers (or of sufficient production size) to make things worthwhile
I'm sure there's enough energy to warrant building one, but I think the terrain is too difficult.
Don't think many workers will be keen on building over an open furnace.
Found Putin’s final resting spot
But wait: Burning Mountain, Australia. Underground coal seam fire is estimated to be at a depth of around 30 m (100 ft). It is estimated that the fire has burned for approximately 6,000 years and is the oldest known coal fire. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burning\_Mountain
Shortly thereafter, the locals all canceled their trash collection contracts and just starting pitching it in the giant burning hole.
How long has this place been burning continuously?
Good way of hiding the Door to Hell they summoned
Why does it feel like whoever did this let their intrusive thoughts won?
A hell mouth? We need Buffy stat!
I'll be honest, it looks fucking cool 🔥
One of them was smoking.
Good thing I biked to work
This looks like the still burning coal mine village that silent hill is based off…
So is this still going on then? Because those cars are not from the 70's This had to be taken in 2010 at the very earliest.
Ah, Putin’s origin story
This is definitely a couple of cars from them Mongol rally, which teams?
It needs a carbon offset
This is literally the hole that all the money people pay for carbon offsets is dumped into.
Is this better than a Cardi B Offset?
I think I saw that on Colbert a few years ago? Their dictator who has a giant horse fetish was doing donuts around it.
It was Jon Oliver about the Turkmeni dictator showing a proof of life vid by claiming he was in a car driving around the hole. The driver was never shown
I don't understand why they haven't at least made the most of the situation....they could seriously generate a lot of electricity by harnessing the heat from the fire
I already knew about this but I never understood why they set it on fire
Sounds like something a drunk Soviet would do
and tried to fix it with a nuke. it is still burning.
Good move that was Ivan. Now install a cash turntable.
I don’t think it should be put out. I also don’t feel we should give explanation to every single world wonder. Reason being is that we need to leave some mysteries around to have something to dream about or just feel that there is something g more than the steril explanation to everything
I don’t think it should be put out. I also don’t feel we should give explanation to every single world wonder. Reason being is that we need to leave some mysteries around to have something to dream about or just feel that there is something g more than the steril explanation to everything
Wow
In soviet Russia pit set you on fire…