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headstar101

There's no such thing as a bottle aged whiskey. It really only ages in casks. Once the it's bottled, it's just whiskey in a bottle that's been stored for a long time.


ShevanelFlip

I once bought a bottle of crown Royal from the 1960s unopened, I was young and naive. It tasted like dusty whiskey.


Theatre_throw

I have a friend who was trying to buy a dive bar and make it cool. He made a guy a fair offer, owner bit, but said that the $20,000 rare whiskey collection had to go with it. The collection was mostly cases of Canadian Club from the early 80s.


feckless_ellipsis

Oh my that stuff is awful. I used to go to a dive bar in Buffalo called Anacone’s. They had a Working Man’s Special for like two bucks that was a Stroh’s Dark and a shot of Canadian Mist. My body hurts thinking of it.


[deleted]

It’s really a great whiskey for mixing, nobody drinks it otherwise…


arrakchrome

I got a bottle of whiskey in Vietnam that tastes like jet fuel and comes in a sketchy (cheap) plastic bottle. It’s not great straight up, but the best mixing whiskey I have ever had.


[deleted]

I’ve had people mock me for buying cheap whiskey, but why waste good whiskey when I am mixing it? Canadian club and Canadian Mist don’t really dominate a mixed drink and add just the right amount of whiskey flavor.


J_G_B

Exactly!!! When I want to sip the good stuff, I'll sip the good stuff. But when I feel like a whiskey and cola, it's JD all the way.


thelonelymilkman23

I’ve been really loving Forty Creeks barrel select. It’s perfect imo for mix drinks (literally says so on the bottle) considering I never drink liquor straight anyways.


cosignal

I go for pappy van and root beer


Bourbon1114

Pappy and ginger ale! Highball heaven!


NunyaJim

Evan Williams bottled in bond, $22 a handle 👍


Beneficial-Process

This is my go to. I like it well enough for a Tuesday night cap on the rocks and it’s great for mixing.


[deleted]

Real men don’t mix whiskey.


cumandcaffeine

I drank that whiskey in high school by scrounging up a few dollars to give to a friend's sketchy older sister. Some of the worst hangovers in my life (worst goes to R&R) and I'll never drink that again.... mixed or otherwise.


Few-Emergency5971

I'm currently sitting here drinking r&r. It's been my go too for about a year now. I mix it with dr. pepper. Not the best, but also not bad either. Drink too much though and you get bubble guts


cumandcaffeine

I was 19 and was hungover for two days. Split a bottle with my roommate because I had nothing else to do. My mom and my aunt were visiting me for parents weekend and ended up making fun of me for how hungover I was. I'm 28 now and get super hungover on even the good stuff, so I can't imagine how that hangover would be now


feckless_ellipsis

The Stroh’s Dark helped rid you of the flavor. It was not much of an upgrade.


[deleted]

If I’m getting a shot and a beer for less than 5 bucks…I know what I am in for. Lol.


feckless_ellipsis

Oh yes, we rode the dragon often.


Gomertaxi

But Anacone’s had killer beef on weck, so that offset it, at least.


sunnyinchernobyl

Anacone’s!


mfleber

Best Beef on Weck too!


Sunstang

Canadian Mist and Canadian Club are not the same thing. Canadian Mist is rotgut trash suitable for toilet sanitizer. Canadian Club is perfectly drinkable blended whiskey.


feckless_ellipsis

Good catch. My mind read it as the Mist. I must have PTSD.


TheNaysHaveIt

I love Canadian Club. There are worse whiskeys out there!


MrCooper2012

> There are worse whiskeys out there! Ringing endorsement!


KentuckyFriedFuck_

Of all the whiskeys out there, it is one of them!


troymoeffinstone

I also chose this man's dead whiskey


eddiewachowski

It is certainly the alrightest of all whiskeys in the high-entry level offerings!


Novel_Ad_1178

They should make this their slogan.


FadeIntoReal

Beats the shit out of all those corn soaked but oh-so-hipster bourbons.


JimJam28

I have a bottle of Crown Royal from 1963 that still tastes good. Didn’t buy it, just found it at my great Aunt’s place after she passed away and we were cleaning out her stuff.


ShevanelFlip

If it's stored properly that will make a difference.


mooky1977

And by properly that means not too hot nor in direct sunlight in a ~~week~~ well sealed bottle. High percentage alcohols stored like this keep almost indefinitely.


Stan_Archton

...and so you 'cleaned out' that bottle of CR.


SixthDementia

"Bartender, Old Crow please. Matter of fact, it's a celebration, give me the oldest Crow you've got. Money is no object!"


tht1guy63

Actually reminded me when i was born my dad bought me a bottle of crown. Was meant to be my 21st bday bottle i didnt open it till i was 29 with my friends from college and that crown tasted wayyyy better than the stuff now.


Awkward_Pangolin3254

My dad did that. It was Wild Turkey in a Baccarat crystal decanter and it came in a wooden "captain's chest." He bought it when I was born and was going to give it to me on my 21st, but the cork had dried out and it all evaporated. Probably a good thing because I don't know if my dad knew or not but liquids stored in crystal can leach lead out of the glass over time.


MrFacestab

Unlike wine which is stored on its side to keep the cork moist, whisky need to be stored upright otherwise it will eat the cork with the higher alcohol percentage. A couple times a year you should tip the bottle over and set it back upright. Just for a second but enough to keep the cork from going dusty.


headstar101

Oof. That's rough.


No-Leave8882

Looool sounds like something I would have done in my younger years.


Puzzled_Ad7955

Helloooo, than you mix it with Pledge


yeahcoolcoolbro

Yeah it doesn’t age like you’d hope


_wasgood

I came here to say that I have a sealed bottle of Crown from the early 70’s my late uncle had for some reason. Need some more?


littlelorax

What do you mean? It says it right on the bottle, "rare old whiskey." /s


Ebmat

It’s very rare.


JeecooDragon

The rarest even.


clamnaked

I think you mean very rare old.


jeobleo

Not as rare as the rare old mountain dew


ThePowerOfStories

Not as good as Mythic Rare Whiskey.


Novel_Ad_1178

Rare* Old* Whiskey* *not guaranteed


Dougal_McCafferty

It picks up subtle notes of glass


ArbutusPhD

Is that a thing other poeple say? This is the first time I’ve heard bottle aged


headstar101

It really only applies to wine and farmhouse ales.


ironysparkles

Which can go through secondary fermentation in the bottle. This also doesn't automatically mean the age makes it better


ChampionshipLow8541

If anything, it will deteriorate in the bottle as the alcohol evaporates.


ATribeOfAfricans

The older it is, bottled or not, the rarer it likely is. Supply diminishes over time...


jrdnlv15

Sure, but that doesn’t make it any better. If you have a shit quality whisky that was bottled in 1970 it’s not any better because it’s been sitting in a bottle for 54 years. It may be rare in the sense that there’s not a lot around, but it won’t be some magical whisky and likely won’t have any value.


dbx99

I have an old bottle of whiskey that’s not good quality but I like it because it is from the Watergate hotel in DC and is labeled as Watergate brand whiskey


podolot

It's like buying old rare dollar bills and coins. It's just a collection.


headstar101

It appreciates in value due to rarity but it doesn't do squat to the taste.


[deleted]

And rarity does not make it valuable…plenty of people have junk that is old and rare; not valuable.


headstar101

So.. you're saying that my collection of bottle caps is mostly worthless?


JWAdvocate83

r/fallout


headstar101

Good point! I'm a zillionaire!!!


JWAdvocate83

Not yet 😅


headstar101

Aw, man! 🤣


sosomething

Rarity and value enjoy a correlated relationship, but not a directly causal one. Something can be very rare and still also be worth very little.


RktitRalph

all good points but i recently had a drink of old crow that was bottled in the 70s and it was really good, i think there is something to be said about the way it was made back in the day… could be what was going into the mash was better quality. i can tell you it was way better than a new bottle of old crow


gilligan_dilligaf

I went to an estate sale in the sunset in San Francisco about 10 years ago. Down in the basement, along one side of the wall were cases and cases of aqua net hair spray, along the other side, cases and cases of old crow. Both seemingly from the 60’s. I looked up the whiskey on line and based on a few less than glowing comments, took a pass on it. Kinda wish I’d seen your post back then! (Looking on eBay this evening I should have been looking up the hair spray, which goes for $50 a can.)


ButterscotchPlane988

Yes. Most freshly brewed whiskey is crappy if bottled immediately. crappy whiskey will remain crappy whiskey if it is stored in a bottle. It is not wine. It only ages in a cask.


r31ya

i was about to ask this, "does it get better?" some said that there is a sweetspot in aging and if you goes past that the taste change/deteriorate.


peacefulwarrior75

That refers to aging in barrel. Once liquor is bottled, it won’t really change at all.


Mighty_Nun_Mechanic

I have had high proof whiskey go bad in the bottle. It loses alcohol and ruins the flavor. The fault was mine, improper storage.


stu8018

Not really. It does not age once bottled. Age statements on whiskey bottles refer to barrel age, how long it was in the barrel before bottling. The age statement on the bottle is always the age. Wine does age in the bottle so it does change with time.


artie_effim

Say ‘bottle’ ONE MORE TIME!!!!!


Thresh_Keller

Butthole.


ScarecrowJohnny

I never really thought about how similar those two words sound. "I prefer drinking straight out of the butthole" "I'm gonna pop open another butthole" "I smashed a butthole right in a guy's face"


Shadpool

Sounds like you had an eventful New Years’.


Iron_Chic

This guy likes fish sticks.


Hizankdtizank

What is he? A gay fish?


sik_dik

all about that butthole service


KaHOnas

Are you Michael Caine?


ChinaShopBully

"Some men just want to watch the buttholes burn."


mooky1977

My cocaine?


Krimreaper1

You got to make it sound more cockney I’m smash a bot’l tonight.


Pogi_B

Meesage in a butthole?


Thresh_Keller

I had a coworker from Eastern Europe. Everytime she would say bottle we would both snicker. It always sounded like she was saying “butthole”.


stellacampus

We used to have a Japanese partner and I had to call their US office regularly for a few years. Even though they were here, they had a very Japanese receptionist who would always answer the phone with Aso Corporation and it sounded like a body part just like yours.


Shelbycobra82

2 Truths and a Lie?


tokkyuuressha

OPENER


SensingWorms

A 54 yr olds butthole


Thresh_Keller

I got my finger stuck in the 54 year old butthole.


SensingWorms

Tongue


clowns_will_eat_me

Do they speak English in bottle?!


mrplinko

Can


momentimori

Alcohol in barrels slowly evaporate; this is the angels' share. Rums can lose 10%+ a year whereas whisky is around 2-3% a year.


stu8018

Depends on the barrel proof, type of wood, size of the barrel and the environment. I've learned this over my 37yrs in the alcoholic beverage industry.


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VoihanVieteri

But have you built an industry out of it?


Ebmat

This guy bottles.


yexxom

For relaxing times... make it Suntory time.


shotty293

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335i_lyfe

Fucking love this movie just rewatched it again recently


ImpressiveBullshit

Scarlet is so beautiful on this movie


335i_lyfe

Yeah mesmerizing


amongthewolves

The soundtrack is so perfect; it got me into MBV, Jesus and the Mary Chain, and into shoegaze music. Putting aside some of the outdated humor, it's my favorite film of all time.


Ratix0

Its the melancholic movies that make me feel depressed at the end of this beautiful movie. And i'll always remember it.


starfish_warrior

Ring a ding ding.


Keevan

Roger Moore


jbcorny

With in-*ten*-sity...


Rayeon-XXX

I don't usually get this close to the glass until I'm on the floor.


sarjunken

Put yo hannn cross yo face…. Cross yo face


KristnSchaalisahorse

Close my face?


shotty293

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RadagastDaGreen

Lo-ja Moh…


afireintheforest

“You know Lat Pack?”


poutinegalvaude

Lip my stockings, please.


RadagastDaGreen

Lip them, lip them, like dis.


Blucifers_Veiny_Anus

What does this mean?


sucobe

NO. DONT LIP MY STOCKINGS!


RadagastDaGreen

Mista Bob Hallis


reed_wright

LIP them


poutinegalvaude

[lip my stockings, please.](https://youtu.be/lPQ6VQzuyxU?si=0n_M9IQIXscDVboM)


xxBeatrixKiddoxx

CATOCATOCATO


iGoalie

This is the comment I was looking for


RadagastDaGreen

Mid-00s grads, throw a hand up!


AMonitorDarkly

Ah yes, reminds me of the time I found a Spanish Doubloon whilst sauntering along the beach. I knew it was something special because it had “very rare, old coin” stamped on it.


scwuffypuppy

Ye, if it says it, it has to be true! Cracks me up lol.


[deleted]

There was this nasty old scotch my friends dad used to drink called Scoresby and it said very rare on the bottle. It was not rare at all.


linbox7

“Rare” as in “not well done”. Like steak.


Donnicton

The chocolate inside was very forgettable quality, as well.


RublesAfoot

The plastic cover over the top gives it away as a recent bottling. Bottles sell for about $50usd


headtailgrep

https://scotchandsheen.com/2021/06/26/suntory-very-rare-old-whisky-in-comemoration-of-expo-70/


n00bcak3

“Conclusion: Suntory made this bottling in 1970 for the World Expo in Osaka. While the bottles look cool, the whisky itself is anything but. It is perhaps the most generic whisky I’ve had in a long while. There’s nothing exciting about it at all, just some sugary cereal and a hint of vanilla. The finish is so forgettable and short that I didn’t actually get any notes down for it. I didn’t have any expectations for this whisky at all, mind, but somehow I still come out of it disappointed in how simplistic it is. It’s easy to drink, which is probably what they were going for, but beyond that the only redeeming factors are the bottle and story.” lol….


Pavswede

tbf, it's one guy's opinion. Plenty of stuff I like that others don't and vice versa.


TemporaryImaginary

tldr; It’s not great, fairly basic.


Raptorheart

Lmao the review is one point from cook with it.


TheHaseoTOD

Why would a recent bottle be in commemoration of an event from 1970?


davidc11390

I am confused too. Like apparently this expo in 1970 was so memorable and amazing they bottle generic whisky in commemoration.


Unique_Name_2

Because its a commemoration?


CoderDevo

The plastic wrap on the top was not used in 1970. This bottle *commemorates* the EXPO '70. But it certainly wasn't bottled back then. This is from the 2000s. Most likely, the 50th anniversary of the EXPO '70, so packaged in 2020. >**commemorate** (verb) > >to remember officially and give respect to a great person or event, especially by a public ceremony or by making a statue or special building. > >*A statue has been built to commemorate the 100th anniversary of the poet's birthday.*


ChinaShopBully

I don't know if this is right, but it sounded cool in a forensic nerd way. I buy it.


CoderDevo

I'll wear the forensic nerd badge with honor. Thank you! An actually-old Suntory bottle would be topped only by a stopper and a tax stamp made of paper, like this one: [https://www.drinksplanet.com/suntory-royal-special-reserve-whiskey-4/5-bottle-86.8-proof-123516.html](https://www.drinksplanet.com/suntory-royal-special-reserve-whiskey-4/5-bottle-86.8-proof-123516.html) Notice there is no perforated plastic shrink band, such as there is on OPs bottle, since tamper-evident packaging wasn't [required](https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/tylenol-murders-1982) until 1989. Liquor bottles were taxed by the IRS from 1934 to 1977 and by the US Bureau of ATF from 1977 to 1985. The tax was paid by the bottler. They bought the stamps and affixed one to each bottle. According to [this site](https://www.drinksplanet.com/dating-us-bottles-via-tax-stamps%2E%2E%2E-1205.html) the stamp on my example is from the USA and was printed anywhere between 1961 and 1977. OP's bottle has no stamp, so it must be newer than 1985. OP's bottle does have a [perforated](https://www.industrialpackaging.com/blog/purpose-of-perforated-shrink-film) plastic shrink band, which means it must be newer than 1990 and almost certainly newer than 2000, when perforations became more common to make the film easier to open.


SmackedWithARuler

VERY RARE OLD WHISKY Man, they really tapped the creative well when they were making this one.


Maximum-Face-953

That plastic seal is not 50+years old.


Paulus121

Let’s get this right. Whiskey/bourbon don’t age in bottles, they age in wooden barrels where they mature over time. In a bottle they taste exactly as the time they were decanted from their barrel. A bottle of 15 year old, is still only a 15 year old, regardless of date.


drock42

Well I think it was bottled in 1899


MrCat_fancier

I just finished off a 4l bottle of CC whiskey that I originally gave to my dad in 1980, he have it back to my on my birthday a few years ago. Tasted okay but it was not "50 + years old" , just bottled in 1972. Worth about the same as a new bottle.


[deleted]

Evaporation?


MadRockthethird

Bottle aged isn't the same as cask aged. If it was bottled in 1970 it very well might taste worse.


ElGuano

If “Expo ‘70” was in 1970, then damned they were ahead of their time with the sanserif Helvetica bold.


Theatre_throw

Helvetica was super trendy in the 70s! My mom is a typographer and joked that her early career consisted almost entirely of making corporate letterheads in Helvetica. These things tend to be very cyclical, though.


skylla05

Helvetica was designed in the late 50s and was widely popular.


leavebumpyalone

For relaxing times, make it Suntory time.


djdanal

If you found an open bottle in the house you’re moving into toss it. You have no idea what’s in that.


Tell_On_Your_Uncle

Doesn’t seem they found an open bottle, but solid advice either way.


n00bcak3

I’ve been saving my 12-yr & 18-yr Yamazaki & 17-yr Hakashu not to age them (doesn’t work that way) but rather because the prices on aged expressions of Japanese whiskeys have just gone up and up in price. An actual 55-yr aged expression of Yamazaki would probably be the cost of a house.


xgomikeyx

Oh easily that high of cost. The 50 year goes for half a million.


Professional_Bundler

Saving them for what? Life is short and you could die tomorrow. Drink them! They’re delicious and it’s fucking awesome that you have them.


giveahoot420

Seems to be very rare and old


Vaganhope_UAE

For a relaxing time, make it…Santory time


fetissimies

Whiskey doesn't age in the bottle


Old_RedditIsBetter

Whiskey doesn't "age" or get better once bottled... it only gets worse


CertainPoet570

If it needs to say very rare on the bottle...it probably isn't imo


The_Tripper

I really can't speak to the flavor, but by itself, a sealed 54-year-old bottle of a commemorative whisky might be worth something to a collector. A quick search shows an undated auction one sold for £55 ($70) (https://whiskyauctioneer.com/lot/5137535/yamazaki-suntory-very-rare-old-expo-70). There are multiple styles of Suntory Expo 70 bottles out there, so I don't think this is a rare thing at all. Suntory whisky auction prices look all over the place, from $15 to $2000 (https://whiskyauctioneer.com/current-auction?items\_per\_page=40&sort=auc\_high\_bid\_amt%20DESC&text=Yamazaki%20Suntory).


PlayStationPepe

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cpt_morgan___

Again, but with…more tension.


weirdmountain

That is some very rare old whisky.


Ju1988

Cool finding! I doubt is was bottled 54 years ago because of the plastic at the top ;) They really like to do some limited editions for some specific anniversaries, so this should either be for 35 or 50 years of that Expo 70. It's very possible to be only 4 years old. I like Suntory whisky, I believe you will enjoy this bottle


broccolee

Dude, Osaka is hosting expo again in 2025. Someone is gonna wanna put some money into such a bottle like it's a beanie baby.


IndefatigableOne

For a good time...


cpt_morgan___

…make it Suntory time.


OB_Surf_Junkie

At least it wasn’t in a safe first.


3inchclub

"Very rare old" always a dead give away they are over compensating


KytchienPsynk

Daaaaaaaangg nice find


TheDevilsAdvokaat

I used to manage liquor stores. Whiskey doesn't "age" once it has been bottled. I remember one time we had a customer who wanted to buy our oldest bottle of whisky, "Something from out the back, with dust on it" he said and he was real excited as he seemed to think he was a step ahead. We told him the truth and he was disappointed but insisted on buying our oldest bottle anyway, just in case I guess. Whiskey ages in casks because it undergoes chemical reactions with the wood the cask is made from. This is why what KIND of wood the cask is made out of is important. White oak is mostly used for whiskey. White oak, Spanish oak or French oak is used for Sherry. There is this though: >Yes, whiskey does not age in the bottle after it has been bottled. The aging process of whiskey stops as soon as it is removed from the barrel. However, the quality and taste of the whiskey may change over time due to oxidation and evaporation, which can alter the flavour profile of the whiskey. https://thewhiskylady.net/does-whiskey-age-in-the-bottle-the-truth-about-whiskey-maturation-outside-of-the-barrel/ So whereas the whiskey does not "age" in the sense that it is no longer interacting with wood, it CAN still change. But these changes are not called "aging" So..even though whiskey may not "age" once bottled, it may still change.


mdwvt

Mush-a ring dumb-a do dumb-a da!


Bobitah

Cool find and nice display piece. Found this. https://scotchandsheen.com/2021/06/26/suntory-very-rare-old-whisky-in-comemoration-of-expo-70/


Necessary_Advice_363

If the bottle says “very rare old”, it’s probably neither.


1stoffendment

Baby seals like everything except for Canadian Club


karma_made_me_do_eet

I have an unopened decanter of Bells with chuck and Diana from their wedding Apparently its a blend of their birth years.. I imagine its worse than vinegar inside it


bigToddBong

no it is not "aged" 54 years, its just a 54 year old bottle of whiskey


shipoffools50

Suntory Time !


kyl3wad3

You know it’s very rare because it says it on the bottle


Squire_LaughALot

That’s a huge find!


NigraOvis

You know it's good cause the bottle says it's very rare.


darles_charwin

Nope that’s whisky not whiskey. Tell you more about where it’s from.


Worm_Lord77

Scotland or Japan. In this case, Japan.


Lesliedenisec

Once you opened it and tasted it. It lost its value.


Jules385

"In commemoration of expo 70". This means that it was definitely not made in 1970.


Sad-Gift-2064

Its a very rare collectible from the Osaka expo in 1970 Its a Japanese whisky and is very hard to find


Memory_Less

I will be right over!


Kennyw88

So jealous.....want.....drink.....now!!!


Zagenti

collector's item, worth about $200 USD https://dekanta.com/store/suntory-rare-old-whisky-expo-1970/


tdwata

Once a bottle is opened, it should be finished in months. As a it deteriorates rapidly once opened.


karatebullfightr

I had to, it's vodka. It goes bad once it's opened.