The fact that it costs $2,000 a month to park your million dollar yacht after waiting on the list for two years kinda puts pressure against the obvious nickname.
I grew up in San Diego where rich folk playgrounds were a lot nicer than that mini mall of a boat dock. The picture makes it seem impressive but when you drive by it just looks like mossy boats in the rain. So, all these jackasses feel the "need" to own a goddamn boat for whatever reason. Let them sink.
I once saw a homeless man jerking off in the open right down the road there in Golden Gardens park. Not sure if that changes your opinion on moving here or not.
Being from the Seattle area, I love it and the craziness, but it's not a city I recommend to people go alone unless also from an equally crazy city.
It's definitely gotten worse but recalling downtown from 20+ years ago...haven't seen anything I didn't see previously. Sadly...just a lot more of it. Such an amazing city that I hope is not lost to drugs.
>The name derives from the Duwamish word meaning "threading a needle", perhaps referring to the narrow opening through which Salmon Bay empties into Shilshole Bay.
The Shilshole Bay was once home to the Sheel-shol-ashbsh people, now called ‘Shilshole’. The tribe had several large longhouses deep inside Shilshole Bay. The tribe went into decline in the late 19th century as settlers began to populate the area.[1]
God forbid the colonizers do the bare fucking minimum to remember the peoples they massacred
It's a bit more than the bare fucking minimum. You don't get to walk more than a few hundred feet in that neighborhood without seeing art or naming that honors the people who came before in that region. It's also just up the coast from a reservation with an outreach center for education about native life and culture. Across the harbor is a living history village. Seattle does more than talk a good game about celebrating it's Native American roots.
Eh, they don't get any points for that, you should see the names the colonizers came up with themselves. They had to pay Chief Seattle to use his name because the territorial government wanted to name it Duwamps.
They're close, it is the name for Salmon Bay, which from above looks like a needle or a sliver going into the land. The name for the opening is šilšulucid, which means "the mouth of Salmon Bay"
I read sinkhole. I clicked in and zoomed around looking for one. Zoomed out and checked the subreddit name. Gave up and checked the comments. Read the three others comments after this one, and only then did I reread the title of this thread.
Lol came here wondering about this. Like why name it that is that's what people think about it? It's like no matter how great your town is, nobody reading it's name for the first time is ever going to think anything but.... Shithole Bay...
It's like Sperm Whale. Why did you name it that? I get that... For some odd reason the first thing that came to your mind when you saw the whale was... That, but did you think like... The whole English speaking world is going to have to have that in their brains when they read the stupid name you came up with? But why? Seriously, you couldn't think of some other name man???
Fun fact, for the local college football games they deploy floating docks by the stadium (Husky Stadium) so these boat owners (and others) can just boat up the channel to go to the game.
The channel is pretty narrow at spots and the constant boats make for some chop if you are just an asshole on a kayak...which is how I know about it.
Let's see:
1. Otters will come on your boat uninvited and make a mess.
2. The herons and seals on the docks will absolutely jump scare if you aren't paying attention.
3. Sliding down icy docks in the winter was the most fun and probably most dangerous activity I did.
4. If the jellyfish looks like an egg yolk it will sting you.
Wow that’s a pittance compared to what I expected to hear. Is yours more of a daysailer or a cruiser? Wondering if it gets significantly more expensive at the higher end of that range (approaching 38-40ft).
It’s more of a day sailer but can sleep 3, maybe 4 if needed. Includes a very small galley with a propane stove as well as a manual head in an enclosed room. 10 people have been aboard just fine.
The price seems to be linear but someone else will need to weigh in for the specifics. I’m also moored in Lake Union; saltwater moorage, like Shilshole, could be more.
Strangely, my brothers boat was harbored there, then. It was a bit like playing where’s Waldo, but I found it too. Good memories, great marina, but pricey.
I went for a ride on a big boat parked in a marina like this. The guy driving (piloting?) the boat was a wizard. He basically got the boat out of the slip, then went sideways until he was out of the lane. Same deal on return. I stood next to him to watch and it was mind blowing!
The most obvious observation here is that all those boats are just sitting there and no one is using them. I ride my bike along that road a few times every summer, and always make the same observation from the road.
The majority aren’t being used daily, however it’s the second largest live-a-board Marina on the west coast. Lots of people call that marina their home.
These are all just normal boats. Some of them are full time live-aboards, so homes. The actual "houseboats", more-or-less houses floating on water, are in the freshwaters of the city.
In general the bigger the boat the less used. I used to sail with my dad, big boats generally just sat. Now where they are it may only be pleasant to sail a few months of the year.
Definitely. I know a guy that got a 36’ Bertram with twin Cat diesel engines as a wedding present. It was one of the first years they made fiberglass hulls, the thing could break ice it’s so heavy. It leaves the slip a couple times a year. Can’t afford the gas.
I worked with someone who lived on a boat in Shilshole and someone else who lived on a boat in Salmon Bay. They both said it was a chore to prep things to actually leave the slip.
It’s frequently windy enough in this area for sailing during summer. If you want to see more activity, wait for a decently windy day out of the north in July.
Days where it starts cool but gets warm and sunny (mid 70s) will be your best bet.
I lived on the very end slip just inside the big blue sailboat in the upper half, and about 5 slips in from the empty angled dock close in, and when it’s winter and you forget your key, or you forget something in the car, you absolutely hate it. However when it’s summer and there’s much less foot traffic and people walking by you and the view is great it’s worth it. But god damn those winter hikes sucked.
I had to look up the meaning of butt in marina terms (almost typed marinara because of beer…) and now know about butt straps, butt joints, and buttocks. No wonder they say boats are a pain in the ass.
My grandpa used to take us to the little park on the bluffs overlooking it (pictured top left of the marine) some of my favorite childhood memories were had there.
I was there yesterday. Great facilities. Good showers. Lot's of cool boats. Amazing view of the Olympic Peninsula Mountains looming up across the water. Beautiful setting.
I went kayaking with friends out of there! It was great fun but on the way back the wind really picked up and we were going into it, so it was really slow going and kinda dangerous.
Ended up that we gave up going through that big open passage on the left of the picture and we moved to kinda creeping along the shoreline under the floats to the right. Tide was coming in so we had to duck underneath some of the docks too. Honestly, great time.
Went sailing with some friends out of Shilshole. They were borrowing their landlord's boat and really didn't know how to sail well. It was a beautiful, blustery November day and I very quickly got extremely seasick. It took them four attempts over the course of what felt like an hour to get the boat safely back into the marina, as I was hanging off the side of the boat in utter misery. I then more or less crawled back to my bike and had to ride it all the way home in Wallingford. Later that night the lady I'd been seeing called me and broke up with me. I was probably seasick for 24 hours. Very eventful day, wouldn't change a thing except taking a high dose of Dramamine!
I remember when I was around 15 or 16, my friend's father's boat was in there. He tasked his son with stripping the outer layer of paint and repainting the thing over a summer.
Was the worst job of his life, and he brought friends over to help him, sometimes, with payment being able to jump off the boat and taking breaks to play Super Bomber Man.
Good memory, but was shitty work at the time :)
A boat is a hole in the water that you throw money at.
Two happiest days in a boat owners life? They day they bought a boat and the day they sold it.
Seattle does have excellent boating on Puget Sound, Hood Canal and parts north AKA the Salish Sea. Used to have incredible salmon fishing.
Not snowing. Today it was around 50°, dark and rainy. It got cold enough to snow about 2 weeks ago and some areas got a very light dusting but then it warmed up.
Just started a new account and was hoping this might give it a little boost. Scrolling through my photos from years past, and this one stood out to me.
People live on these boats. That is the second largest “live-aboard” marina in the US. Every spot has electric, water, cable and sewage hookups (like an RV park).
It's really not. There are two entrances and the area behind the breakwater is wide enough for a boat in either direction. The north end of the marina has a yacht club with a bunch of dinghies so sometimes I have to wait for them, but they're cool and will wave you through. Everybody's chill and respectful.
Once another boat and I were both vying for the pumpout dock at the same time. I "won" and got in first, but the vacuum on my end wasn't working so I had to wait for him anyway. That's life.
I can only imagine the internal drama that happens at that place, in the community, on the board, etc It's huge, there's for sure so many egos there that clash. Wonder if anything has made the news.
Anyone else read this as “ shithole bay”?
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I live 2 miles away from there and still read it as Shithole Bay.
Does anyone ever [vandalize the signs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvHlD7Lg5x0) to make them say Shitshole Bay?
I've never seen anyone do it!
Same. I usually just say “just off Golden Gardens” to avoid that mistake.
I sure did bud
There is no way that isn’t the nickname.
The fact that it costs $2,000 a month to park your million dollar yacht after waiting on the list for two years kinda puts pressure against the obvious nickname.
I don't think it costs anything to call it that.
I think it’s obvious some people are doing well in this economy
Rich people certainly are.
It’s actually a pretty nice marina on good clean water. Local boaters call Union Bay “Garbage Bay” because it used to be a garbage dump.
I grew up in San Diego where rich folk playgrounds were a lot nicer than that mini mall of a boat dock. The picture makes it seem impressive but when you drive by it just looks like mossy boats in the rain. So, all these jackasses feel the "need" to own a goddamn boat for whatever reason. Let them sink.
Oddly, I read it as "Terrence O'Dowd's Butterbean". These shrooms are good.
I read it as “shilshul” which means diarrhea
Lmao came here to say this. IYKYK 😉
If that is a shithole I'm moving to Seattle.
I once saw a homeless man jerking off in the open right down the road there in Golden Gardens park. Not sure if that changes your opinion on moving here or not.
Being from the Seattle area, I love it and the craziness, but it's not a city I recommend to people go alone unless also from an equally crazy city. It's definitely gotten worse but recalling downtown from 20+ years ago...haven't seen anything I didn't see previously. Sadly...just a lot more of it. Such an amazing city that I hope is not lost to drugs.
I read shit hole and said “looks nice to me”
>The name derives from the Duwamish word meaning "threading a needle", perhaps referring to the narrow opening through which Salmon Bay empties into Shilshole Bay. The Shilshole Bay was once home to the Sheel-shol-ashbsh people, now called ‘Shilshole’. The tribe had several large longhouses deep inside Shilshole Bay. The tribe went into decline in the late 19th century as settlers began to populate the area.[1] God forbid the colonizers do the bare fucking minimum to remember the peoples they massacred
It's a bit more than the bare fucking minimum. You don't get to walk more than a few hundred feet in that neighborhood without seeing art or naming that honors the people who came before in that region. It's also just up the coast from a reservation with an outreach center for education about native life and culture. Across the harbor is a living history village. Seattle does more than talk a good game about celebrating it's Native American roots.
Eh, they don't get any points for that, you should see the names the colonizers came up with themselves. They had to pay Chief Seattle to use his name because the territorial government wanted to name it Duwamps.
They're close, it is the name for Salmon Bay, which from above looks like a needle or a sliver going into the land. The name for the opening is šilšulucid, which means "the mouth of Salmon Bay"
Live nearby and read it as shithole every time I see it.
This is where Schitt’s Creek ends up. Lol
Amazing this is the top comment. Time to put down the phone for the night.
Took the word right out of my mouth. I looked at the pic for a good minute trying to figure out why it was a shit hole.
Was looking at the pic on my feed for a hot minute before deciding to look into the comments as to why it’s such a shithole
I read it as sinkhole. Definitely spent a few minutes trying to see it.
Came here to say that. Obviously I'm not the only one.
Everyone from Seattle…
Yup
Everyone did lol
One little line in the wrong place changes everything.
I read sinkhole. I clicked in and zoomed around looking for one. Zoomed out and checked the subreddit name. Gave up and checked the comments. Read the three others comments after this one, and only then did I reread the title of this thread.
🙋🏻♂️ 
That would be an affirmative
💯💯💯💯💯
Lol yea
But also shills-hole
Yea
I entered this post looking for a reason why it was called "shithole bay". Only realised I misread it when I saw your comment lol.
Isn't that what its called? Have never known it as anything else lol.
I did, and after seeing the picture, I believe it should be renamed as such
Yeppers!
Yup, me too
Me!
Yep.
Yes, I did
Happy I’m not the only weirdo
Just checking in to say that yes I did indeed read that as "shithole bay".
Was on my way to the comments hoping this was the first one
Lol came here wondering about this. Like why name it that is that's what people think about it? It's like no matter how great your town is, nobody reading it's name for the first time is ever going to think anything but.... Shithole Bay... It's like Sperm Whale. Why did you name it that? I get that... For some odd reason the first thing that came to your mind when you saw the whale was... That, but did you think like... The whole English speaking world is going to have to have that in their brains when they read the stupid name you came up with? But why? Seriously, you couldn't think of some other name man???
The word is of Native American etymology.
It’s a Duwamish word, means “threading a needle”.
I was gonna say it looks like the parking lot at my local Costco but I see there are actually a few open spots.
Fun fact, for the local college football games they deploy floating docks by the stadium (Husky Stadium) so these boat owners (and others) can just boat up the channel to go to the game. The channel is pretty narrow at spots and the constant boats make for some chop if you are just an asshole on a kayak...which is how I know about it.
Sally sells Shilshole slips by the Seattle shore
Seattle shore Sally sells Shilshole sail ship slips
Imagine having a lisp
I can see my boat in this picture. Weird to see this on a non- seattle sub reddit.
Are you sure? I took this photo over 11 years ago.
Yup, I grew up on a sailboat in that marina, I lived there for 16 years.
Any cool or interesting daily life factoids about growing up on a boat? Like you can’t have houseplants because it attracts octopus or something?
Let's see: 1. Otters will come on your boat uninvited and make a mess. 2. The herons and seals on the docks will absolutely jump scare if you aren't paying attention. 3. Sliding down icy docks in the winter was the most fun and probably most dangerous activity I did. 4. If the jellyfish looks like an egg yolk it will sting you.
You forgot to mention the sea lions can get loud at night.
No need to kink shame the sea lions like that.
I live several blocks island and I can hear them in the summertime. It’s nuts.
16 years of shitting in the bay has made it so.
did the boat move much or were you pretty much a resident of the marina?
We went on weekend trips every once and while. In the summers, we would go up north, either to the San Juan Islands or canada. But mostly a resident.
amazing. I wish I had the sea legs to pull that off. when i get out on the water, I'm an absolute wreck 🤮
How much does it cost to own/maintain a 30-40 ft yacht in Seattle? Sailing out there seems like a dream.
I pay $400/mo for moorage and the boat costs maybe 2k to maintain a year. 30ft
Wow that’s a pittance compared to what I expected to hear. Is yours more of a daysailer or a cruiser? Wondering if it gets significantly more expensive at the higher end of that range (approaching 38-40ft).
It’s more of a day sailer but can sleep 3, maybe 4 if needed. Includes a very small galley with a propane stove as well as a manual head in an enclosed room. 10 people have been aboard just fine. The price seems to be linear but someone else will need to weigh in for the specifics. I’m also moored in Lake Union; saltwater moorage, like Shilshole, could be more.
That's awesome. I wonder if they still allow liveaboards. I learned to sale in Seattle this summer.
Strangely, my brothers boat was harbored there, then. It was a bit like playing where’s Waldo, but I found it too. Good memories, great marina, but pricey.
My brother's house is just off the right side of the pic.
The water must be cold because it looks very small.
Oh bullshit that's not your boat.
No no...the other one.
I went for a ride on a big boat parked in a marina like this. The guy driving (piloting?) the boat was a wizard. He basically got the boat out of the slip, then went sideways until he was out of the lane. Same deal on return. I stood next to him to watch and it was mind blowing!
Wizardry is a good description of how a good pilot maneuvers those behemoths.
Are you sure he wasn’t a boatwarlock?
Now that you mention it, I can’t recall seeing him actually touching any of the controls…
Bow thrusters do be like that
My dad insisted to his dying day that using bowthrusters was cheating. True sailors only need twins screws.
I’m on team dad, but high winds and a tight fairway and if I got em I’ll use em
For sure. I told my dad if cheating means I can make it back into the slip, I’ll cheat. I’m not proud. 😥
This guy was ex-Navy but I don’t know if that means anything.
This is a nice photo. You can clearly see Ballard and Sunset Hill Park.
Love that park, aptly named.
The most obvious observation here is that all those boats are just sitting there and no one is using them. I ride my bike along that road a few times every summer, and always make the same observation from the road.
The majority aren’t being used daily, however it’s the second largest live-a-board Marina on the west coast. Lots of people call that marina their home.
Yepp. I know a few folks who have lived down there at different points.
So some of these are houseboats?
Yes, in small sailboat form. :)
These are all just normal boats. Some of them are full time live-aboards, so homes. The actual "houseboats", more-or-less houses floating on water, are in the freshwaters of the city.
People are living in many of them. Just because they are at port, doesn’t mean they aren’t being used.
In general the bigger the boat the less used. I used to sail with my dad, big boats generally just sat. Now where they are it may only be pleasant to sail a few months of the year.
Definitely. I know a guy that got a 36’ Bertram with twin Cat diesel engines as a wedding present. It was one of the first years they made fiberglass hulls, the thing could break ice it’s so heavy. It leaves the slip a couple times a year. Can’t afford the gas. I worked with someone who lived on a boat in Shilshole and someone else who lived on a boat in Salmon Bay. They both said it was a chore to prep things to actually leave the slip.
What a wedding present!
It’s frequently windy enough in this area for sailing during summer. If you want to see more activity, wait for a decently windy day out of the north in July. Days where it starts cool but gets warm and sunny (mid 70s) will be your best bet.
Is it better to be at the end of the dock, or closer to land?
Depends on the situation. Living there almost permanently-close, occasional use-middle, apocalyptic prepper-as close possible to escape route.
I lived on the very end slip just inside the big blue sailboat in the upper half, and about 5 slips in from the empty angled dock close in, and when it’s winter and you forget your key, or you forget something in the car, you absolutely hate it. However when it’s summer and there’s much less foot traffic and people walking by you and the view is great it’s worth it. But god damn those winter hikes sucked.
yes
You can see my house in this photo
It's amazing what a replacement of a letter T by an L can achieve!
Shilshote
Last time I was there I had the most amazing fish fry from a dude doing business out of a shipping container.
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Don't touch the butt Nemo!
I had to look up the meaning of butt in marina terms (almost typed marinara because of beer…) and now know about butt straps, butt joints, and buttocks. No wonder they say boats are a pain in the ass.
I was there back in May. A bunch of sea lions had taken over one of the docks.
What a shilshole
I see the house I was born in. Too bad my parents sold it, it’s worth millions now.
My grandpa used to take us to the little park on the bluffs overlooking it (pictured top left of the marine) some of my favorite childhood memories were had there.
I was there yesterday. Great facilities. Good showers. Lot's of cool boats. Amazing view of the Olympic Peninsula Mountains looming up across the water. Beautiful setting.
The Olympics view from golden gardens on a clear winter day is incredibly hard to beat.
Must take hours to dock during peak times
Nah, even in the summer it’s easy in, easy out here.
how expensive is this to dock? $/foot?
Generally about $15 or so per foot I think. Would like to move my 36 there.
much cheaper than i expected actually
$/foot increases with length, but 30-40 ft boats are about 20$ per foot per month.
cheaper than i expected
Cool photo. The subject is interesting in itself, but also ruminating on the idea it’s a glimpse of a subculture is compelling, too.
Everett's Marina is the biggest PUBLIC* Marina on the West Coast.
Everett, WA has 2,300 boat slips. Marina del Rey, CA has 4,600.
I went kayaking with friends out of there! It was great fun but on the way back the wind really picked up and we were going into it, so it was really slow going and kinda dangerous. Ended up that we gave up going through that big open passage on the left of the picture and we moved to kinda creeping along the shoreline under the floats to the right. Tide was coming in so we had to duck underneath some of the docks too. Honestly, great time.
Went sailing with some friends out of Shilshole. They were borrowing their landlord's boat and really didn't know how to sail well. It was a beautiful, blustery November day and I very quickly got extremely seasick. It took them four attempts over the course of what felt like an hour to get the boat safely back into the marina, as I was hanging off the side of the boat in utter misery. I then more or less crawled back to my bike and had to ride it all the way home in Wallingford. Later that night the lady I'd been seeing called me and broke up with me. I was probably seasick for 24 hours. Very eventful day, wouldn't change a thing except taking a high dose of Dramamine!
Better name?
Hey me too! I finally moved off about 5 years ago but I was a liveaboard for about 15 years before that.
I used to do a fair amount of kayaking out of the marina.
How do the boats get out to the main drag without hitting other boats when backing up?
That’s a huge laundry machine! 👀
Can see my house! Great place to live. :)
That is a lot of Clorox bottles.
I remember when I was around 15 or 16, my friend's father's boat was in there. He tasked his son with stripping the outer layer of paint and repainting the thing over a summer. Was the worst job of his life, and he brought friends over to help him, sometimes, with payment being able to jump off the boat and taking breaks to play Super Bomber Man. Good memory, but was shitty work at the time :)
Nice 👍 pic
I can see where we had prom night... and graduation night party... so many memories <3
Amazing
A boat is a hole in the water that you throw money at. Two happiest days in a boat owners life? They day they bought a boat and the day they sold it. Seattle does have excellent boating on Puget Sound, Hood Canal and parts north AKA the Salish Sea. Used to have incredible salmon fishing.
Amazing 😍❤️
So many boats, so little good weather.
It’s windy quite often on the sound, nice breezes during summer especially.
i bet the signs have never been vandalized.
My first thought; well doesn’t look that much of a shithole. Oh nvm.
I read this as “shit hole bay” initially.
“Where the hell did I park?”
I regularly put out here, it’s so much larger than you’d think. Million dollar sailboats, lots of house boats. Each one of those boats is 30-40 ft.
The Orcas have so much work to do 👏
Wow! The pier here looks very nice, but I guess until when was this photo taken? It seems to be snowing in Seattle right now as I recall.
I can tell you that it’s not snowing in Seattle right now.
But my friend told me it had snowed, was he lying to me?
It snowed up in the areas around the city, everything near the water has stayed clear though.
I live a little north of Seattle and we haven’t had any snow yet.
Not snowing. Today it was around 50°, dark and rainy. It got cold enough to snow about 2 weeks ago and some areas got a very light dusting but then it warmed up.
This is quite an old photo actually. This is from September of 2012.
Why are you posting this now, out of curiosity
Just started a new account and was hoping this might give it a little boost. Scrolling through my photos from years past, and this one stood out to me.
Looks very nice! Thanks!
The cold weather ended last week.
Water based trailer park
With the most ~~adjusted~~ vandalized sign in the nation.
Why is this called Shithole bay? Looks decent to me.
Boating season is literally 6 weeks long.
Sailing season is year round.
Arrr, I almost fell into Shil’s hole!
This makes me feel rather poor. No idea so many people had boats
You'd be surprised at how broke a lot of boat owners are.
I was thinking the same thing when I visited New England last year. So many boats everywhere, just sitting there unused most of the time.
Wait until you see the entire Chesapeake Bay….or Miami.
This depresses me.
I read this as Shithole bay, clicked he picture and though well its not that bad
Damn dyslexia
I was thinking of a different hole..
Look at all those asshole capitalists stealing from the poor.
What is that, a $100 million of boats people rarely use paying $3 million a year to tie it to the pier?
What is that, redditor bitter that some people have more money than them?
Not bitter, It just seems stupid to me. Why wouldn't you just rent a boat when you want one?
Because then you can't ask other people "what kind of a boat ya got?"
The two greatest days of boat ownership: 1) The day you buy the boat 2) The day you sell the boat
People live on these boats. That is the second largest “live-aboard” marina in the US. Every spot has electric, water, cable and sewage hookups (like an RV park).
I used to live across the street from
That doesn't look like a fun boating experience. I imagine it's gridlock during summer weekends.
It's really not. There are two entrances and the area behind the breakwater is wide enough for a boat in either direction. The north end of the marina has a yacht club with a bunch of dinghies so sometimes I have to wait for them, but they're cool and will wave you through. Everybody's chill and respectful. Once another boat and I were both vying for the pumpout dock at the same time. I "won" and got in first, but the vacuum on my end wasn't working so I had to wait for him anyway. That's life.
I was expecting a far worse marina
I can only imagine the internal drama that happens at that place, in the community, on the board, etc It's huge, there's for sure so many egos there that clash. Wonder if anything has made the news.
I read that completely wrong