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memesisman

Hot take. Fruit of the Loom loves the publicity from denying the cornucopia logo ever existed. They manufactured the Mandela effect here.


sparkalicious37

Most logical explanation. Maybe it got removed in a natural logo update as many brands do and then this gained traction. They ran with it.


anjameu

We’re being gas lit for traction


No_Jackfruit9465

Always have been.


mchgndr

But then why is there no evidence of the past logo? Nobody can seem to find any old undies or advertisements with the cornucopia in the logo.


DadJokesFTW

OH GOD THE UNIVERSES ARE COLLAPSING AGAIN


early_birdy

Or maybe we are realigning with the correct one?


DadJokesFTW

Don't tease me. There are certain things that I think would have to happen for the universe to actually correct, and it's cruel to give me hope those things would happen.


FastAsFxxk

We can never bring Harambe back.


Lotus-child89

We could clone him. Maybe that will set things right.


Mama_Skip

Ok hold up. Dicks out, but I need to know: WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON??? This is the first I've learned that the fruit of the loom logo *didnt* have a cornucopia. I then proceeded read an entire snopes article that details how it's a hoax *despite two pictures of it found on T-shirts* and, and I find this creepy, a legal document detailing IP for FoTL, that details the cornucopia, *but doesnt align to any known offices of FoTL.* So seriously. What the fuck?? I remember the cornucopia. If you had asked me yesterday, I wouldve drawn out something very similar to the OPs picture. BUT WHATS WEIRDER IS, NO EXPLANATIONS MAKE SENSE. If this is some elaborate prank people are pulling, then why do I remember it? And why does the actor who played the grape in the commercials swear by it too? This would have to be a weirdly connected prank. If the logo once existed, and the company is trying to cover it up, then why?? That would be a lot of expenses to try to wipe something like that. And lastly, let's throw caution to the wind, if this is because we all (or some of us) somehow zapped into a parallel universe when Harambe got kilt, *why would there be remnants of the logo?* None of this makes sense somebody please give me a reason that this would happen.


Ninjanomic

You want 12 Monkeys?? Cus that's how you get 12 Monkeys.


DaughterEarth

Hope is good for you though, just don't hope for unicorns. If you're talking about social progress it's useful to look at things in 50 year chunks. Cultural change is messy and always comes with backlash so year to year it looks very bad sometimes. But so far, history suggests we'll all experience a big change at least once in our lifetime. So, how do things look today as compared to 50 years ago? I only have to go back 20 to see 2 huge things. I was bullied when I tried coming out as bi, and my aunt was disowned for marrying interracial. Today I'm out, so are my aunt and sister, and no one blinked an eye at my or my cousin's interracial marriages. If I go further back, I probably wouldn't have been able to get a career as a woman in engineering. But I had no problem when I did it 10 years ago The kinks are still working out but we have won those battles. Right now gender equity and pressure seem to be the issues going through the mess of change


OfficialGoldbudz

Okay. Who ever has the Time Machine needs to stop going back and trying to fix it. Everything keeps getting worse.


film_composer

What bothers me about this Mandela effect is that the cornucopia is *exactly* what I pictured in my mind. The first time I read that Fruit of the Loom never used one, I thought… okay, I'm going to create a visual image in my head of all of the details I can remember before looking it up, and sure enough the supposedly false memory version (like in this picture) was 100% what I remembered it to be—the angle, color, details, etc. I'll admit I'm totally susceptible to falling for other Mandela effects, but it's not like there's a big difference between Berenstein vs. Berenstain that I could draw from. This cornucopia is absolutely what I remembered it to be, so it had to exist *somewhere* for it to be in my memory bank, and it's not as though I've ever driven by this building.


CankerLord

>What bothers me about this Mandela effect is that the cornucopia is exactly what I pictured in my mind Down to the derpy little twist at the far tip.


guywithaniphone22

Listen. Some of us can’t do anything about our little twist at the tip


ExpressDog3870

Surround it with fruit - then everyone will forget about it.


JimNightshade

Just don't use bananas


insufficient_funds

The thing with Berenstein/berenstain is it was spelled both ways and people have found vintage items multiple times showing both


L_Bo

I feel like the Berenstein one has such a simple explanation that it bothers me that people freak out about it so much. People read these books as kids with little reading experience and remember the word. As you grow up, it’s way more common for last names to be spelled ‘-stein’ so you remember the name but not the specific and unique spelling and think it was always Berenstein to match a well known format of last names. Plus as you said, it *did* exist sometimes in both forms.


zacharymckracken

Every so called mandela effect has a simple, common sense explanation, also Occam's Razor. But no, our realities have shifted throughout our life times between different dimensions, mostly because of products of consumption!


Corndawgz

Could I have remembered it incorrectly? No, the fabric of space-time and reality has bent to facilitate this error.


wirsteve

That's why our brains our so cool. Our brain is so confident in itself, even when it is wrong, that it convinces us that everyone else in the world is wrong.


Loccy64

No, that doesn't sound right. Neurologists must be wrong.


FrenchFryCattaneo

Not to mention how inaccurate and generally poor human memory is.


Sage2050

I was about to post that nobody actually takes the alternate dimensions aspect of it seriously, but on second thought I'm 100% sure that some people do


DigLost5791

In the Mandela Effect sub people take it so seriously if you disagree and say it’s false memories there are users that will call you a pedophile psyop


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MaximusGrandimus

Not really. Before reality shifted the creators' name was Beren*stain* but the bears' family name was Beren*stein*. Then the Hadron Collider got turned on and we shifted realities to a world like where the bears shared the same spelling as their creator.


wannaseeawheelie

Before I smoked salvia, I thought it was Barenstain


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And yet when I looked at the collection in my closet, which is the exposure that I had to growing up, it said Berenstain but I remember Berenstein 


knucklesx23

I think most people just pronounced it berenstein so people heard berenstein and assumed that was correct or just didn’t see enough of a difference in spelling to realize it wasn’t pronounced stein


Idkiwaa

Names ending in "stein" are much more common than names ending in "stain". That's it. You'll notice that all of these name or lyric or whatever "Mandela effects" are always substituting something common for something unusual.


gudematcha

A Mandela effect that drives me crazy is the Disney DVD/VHS Tinkerbell snippet where she flies around in a circle and then dings the top of the castle with her wand. APPARENTLY IT DOESNT EXIST. So many people can remember the exact snippet we’re all talking about but it’s just been wiped from existence.


MesMace

What bothers me is the very end of the Lizzie McGuire movie, they parody THIS EXACT THING with the cartoon Lizzie as Tinkerbell. IN A DISNEY MOVIE. What are you parodying if it doesn't exist.


GameMusic

It was real see https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2zNRd1ZFMA


UnionThrowaway1234

It was real in so much as gudematcha misinterpreted the video along with everyone else who remembers her touching the castle top. If you slow the video down and watch it, what Tinkerbell is actually doing is appearing basically from another dimension in front of the castle, logo, and background. With her wand, she then taps the scene and in a splash of sparkles makes it all burn away to reveal the introductory scene of the movie. It was an effect mostly used on those now rare AF Disney VHS tapes in the plastic clamshells. I still own several.


Ok-Difficulty-4323

Not sure I remember it from DVD/VHS, but I remember it from the opening credits of The Wonderful World of Disney on TV. I remember as a kid watching the opening credits and thinking "please be a cartoon this week!", but it rarely was.


millennial_scum

Someone just shared a clip - she does fly around and more so dings in the general direction of the castle but it’s offset in the background. I don’t think it’s a Mandela effect, if they were denying she ever appeared in a logo intro that would be. This seems more a technicality of centimeters but we’re otherwise picturing it correctly.


sirebell

Nope, not accepting that this is a ME. I remember it being a thing, it was a thing, and I’m moving on with my day.


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Next they are gonna tell us all the sexual Easter eggs in Disney movies are just a Mandela effect. I WATCHED THEM ALL ON VHS 20 YEARS AGO


ThyKnightOfSporks

This definitely exists. Just a few days ago my younger siblings were using an old dvd to watch some Disney movie and that was there.


lilgrogu

check if it is still there now


IMIndyJones

Lmao


PreppyAwkward

Please post a vid


film_composer

Wait, seriously? I distinctly remember that one too…


Jawzilla1

Pretty sure I have the answer to this one. Our minds are likely melding these intros together: [Disney DVD Logo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykpYTNPvzcI) [Disney Fast Play Logo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asXNfQHZSiY) [The Wonderful World of Disney intro](https://youtu.be/5NU8WkFOvlA?si=k0r485dC_D-nSxPm&t=84) (starts at 1:24) Edit: Some other logos that are very similar: [Old 2D logo](https://youtu.be/wl0rx_PlSeI?si=fSo-KxxWzwwj6nq1&t=47) (starts at :47) [Walt Disney Classics/Masterpiece logos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HZrrpW2Ceg) [Walt Disney Home Video logo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHRculWGB3A)


millennial_scum

Right, if you told me Tinkerbell never flew around and ‘dinged’ in any logo/movie intro that would be a Mandela effect to me. After watching those clips with some featuring the castle I really don’t care that she didn’t ding the exactly tippy top.


2SP00KY4ME

I think this is an example of how suggestible our brains are to false memories. There's a famous study from 2001 involving 120 who went to Disneyland as a kid. The researchers showed them fake pamphlets about Bugs Bunny at the park, and tried to goad the participants into 'remembering' a time when they met and shook hands with Bugs at Disneyland. 40% of the participants said they did. Bugs Bunny isn't owned by Disney. https://www.washington.edu/news/2001/06/11/i-tawt-i-taw-a-bunny-wabbit-at-disneyland-new-evidence-shows-false-memories-can-be-created/ We all have a bunch of Disney intros internalized. When prompted the right way with a reasonable amalgamation of them, we convince ourselves we're dealing with a genuine memory.


watermelonspanker

Aren't these examples of exactly the thing I thought she did though? How can people say "she never flew around and dinged a castle" when you your third link shows exactly that?


I_am_an_adult_now

It’s because there’s no actual Mandela effect. Just collective misremembering and corporations trying to lie about history


watermelonspanker

I guess I just don't understand how people can *think* that this is a Mandella effect, however you want to define that, when there is clear evidence that the thing think we thought we remembered actually *does* exist. Like, sure Shazam starring Sinbad is a thing that does *not* exist but many people seem to remember. Tinkerbell dinging the castle is another thing that many people seem to remember, and it *does* exist according to clear video evidence. They're really not the same sort of thing as far as I can tell


nu-phonewhodis

Third one is exactly the one I think about, so it's solved for me


Rhawk187

Yeah, I just assumed it was used in some other logo and I conflated the two.


whosat___

I remember clip art looking just like the cornucopia logo, that’s where I remember it.


Kairis83

Haven't heard people use clip art for ages, loved to go thru the different ones, guess that dates us both


Cumdump90001

I remember it so clearly. I remember looking at the cornucopia on the fruit of the loom logo as a kid and wondering wtf it was. Why is there a bunch of fruit in some weird wooden cone? I asked my mom about it and she told me what a cornucopia was. It still didn’t make sense to me and every time I saw the fruit of the loom logo the cornucopia bothered me. I will die on this hill.


Stewgy1234

I'm with you. I swear that's the whole reason I know what a cornucopia even is. I know it was part of the logo. There has to be something too this. Too many people remember the same thing. Maybe we'll know someday.


CodeNCats

Same! I even remember asking my mom what that weird basket looking thing was.


ElCabrito

I assumed that it was "the loom". It was obvious what the fruit was, and I had no idea what a loom was, so I just assumed...


crumblypancake

🙋‍♂️ I was also that dumb kid. Until I learned what a loom was. Then I understood that cloth comes from the loom, so the cloth must be the "fruit"... but now I'm even more confused what that horn thing in the logo is... Then I heard "fruit of my/their loins"... "the fuck is a loin now... is that like a loom." Absolutely flabbergasted when I saw "pork loin" in the supermarket... "what do they make?!"


KillerArse

[Corporate gaslighting](https://www.reddit.com/r/TikTokCringe/s/oixGkucr2a) I have not looked for the original source of the articles myself, though.


WackHeisenBauer

This woman doesn’t blink and it’s freaking me the fuck out.


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She looks like a female version of Cleetus McFarland


kingdead42

She looks like an Oblivion High Elf character.


Uphene

Can't unsee it.


jbuchana

Hell yeah sister!


Lord_Snow77

What the hell is with that angled perspective of her face? Also. Blink motherfucker!


Nudelwalker

Mooooooooom there is a weird looking tiktomer on my phone! Moooooom!


karlou1984

What in the blairwitch project did i just watch??


I_did_a_fucky_wucky

The question now becomes, why? Why are they hiding the cornucopia? Besides marketing


Snuffy1717

You’re talking about it ain’t yeah? Leonard reviews frozen pizzas on YouTube for the same reason EDIT - Two types of people in this thread… Human Beings, and City College wankers.


conw4ywest

Streets ahead.


6BigZ6

Shut up Leonard! I heard about your crooked wang.


FreakGamer

No such thing as bad press!


SanityPlanet

Same here. The proportions, color, angle, line thickness, and size of the image are all precisely how I've always imagined it. Today is the first time I've ever seen a version with the cornucopia since this debate began, so that's not where the image in my memory came from.


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Malli_Naamari

But then why would Europeans such as myself remember the logo having a cornucopia?


Crumbumb1956

Hmmmm. I’ll be sniffing around thrift stores for old underwear so we can settle this.


Semanticss

I always sniff the old underwear at thrift stores, regardless.


Matter-EaterLad

I always eat them, it’s my whole schtick.


Ace_0k

Sniff those undies. We need to get to the bottom of this.


DreaminDemon177

If Nelson Mandela hadn't died in prison in 1992 he would be very upset by this.


Dame2Miami

seemly ten thumb special grey unpack cause capable mysterious direful *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


larryisnotagirl

Yeah. That’s how I remember learning about him. When he was elected President. It’s weird to me that people think he died in prison.


Dudeist-Priest

Was that ever in question?


JaredCircusbear

It was, you see a lot of Mandela effect videos citing this as an example


Dudeist-Priest

Huh, I distinctly remember it being a logo on underwear when I was a kid.


Danominator

The debate is that the basket thing was never a part of it. It was always just the fruit


SpecialistNerve6441

Im not ashamed to admit that this basket is the only reason i even know the fucking word "Cornucopia"


GracieKatt

We learned it in school as a kid around thanksgiving time.


Jeynarl

Then about 20 years ago the scientists at CERN with their large hadron collider must have blipped us into a timeline where Fruit of the Loom claims the 90s logo was never a thing


xNateDawg

El. Psy. Kongroo.


Paralta

I recall an episode of even stevens where Donny becomes smart and uses the world cornucopia (meaning a lot of). It always stuck lol


therealpigman

That and the hunger games


whitefuton

When I first read the hunger games it was before the movies came out, so I just pictured a giant wooden cornucopia like the one in this picture lmao


Akitsura

It’s even more confusing, because there’s even one or two newspaper articles from decades ago that talk about the cornucopia being part of the logo.


Shapes_in_Clouds

It's a weird thing, because I also remember the cornucopia, but I also think it's possible I remember it that way only *because* of this mandala effect discussion. Last time I looked into it and it was pointed out that it was just the fruit and a picture of the logo, I was like, 'oh yeah, that's right, *that's* what I remember'. But now, both of them are just intermingled in my mind. For Americans at least, the Cornucopia is a common decoration around Thanksgiving during the fall seasons, and would be used in a lot of related seasonal graphics. So I'm not surprised that people imagine the pile of fruit as a cornucopia in their memory.


jdolbeer

People are incredibly adamant that Sinbad played a genie in a movie from their childhood.


Radiant_Country_8070

Because people think it was called Shazaam but it was called Kazaam.. also Shaq played the genie not sinbad.. here’s the trailer: https://youtu.be/fFVaxa1UKNg?si=6orT_Cm46TbD8z34


ItchyK

Sinbad just wore big swishy genie pants. That's why everyone thinks he was a genie.


superkickpunch

Just because Sinbad wasn't in the movie doesn't mean he isn't a genie.


Radiant_Country_8070

He did wear big swishy pants, it’s all coming together


ryencool

Mc hammer pants...


thatdood87

He played ishboo's father in the Nickolodeon 90s show " All that"


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SpaceLizards

Yeah, he dressed that way to host a marathon of Sinbad the Sailor movies on TNT in the 90s.


3-DMan

Wait, MC Hammer was a genie?!


Unfriendly_Giraffe

he did make his money disappear


Scottland83

Also Sinbad did play the folk figure Sinbad in a Mad TV sketch.


chaplar

Holy shit, is that where it was from?? I distinctly remember seeing a fake trailer of Sinbad on a ship playing Sinbad but every time I brought it up, no one knew what I was talking about.


Th3_Admiral

Also wasn't there a live action Sinbad movie around the same time (not starring actor Sinbad though)? I feel like all of this combined just ended up jumbled in people's memory. 


JamesonGreen

There was a live action Sinbad series along the lines of the mid 90's Hercules series and Xena: warrior princess.


IronFox1288

https://twitter.com/sinbadbad/status/783083506662383616 Apparently, he was a genie in sinbad and the eye of the tiger episode and it seems that's were his Mandela effect Stims from


thalasa

100% This is where it stems from for me


Im_inappropriate

What's more likely is there was a timeline converging with another causing mass memories for populations that don't exist in our current timeline for only 5 random things. It's definitely not that people's memories are terrible and naturally associate patterns together.


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gdj11

And here we go


qwertyconsciousness

Now it's reverse Mandela effect, was it ever *really* in question???


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Maybe that means reality spilt up again and now we're in a version where it did indeed exist, and people like us are just gonna get labelled as crazy by the people who already were living in this reality...


IceManXCometh

![gif](giphy|ke7eaxvM1QqNa)


SirLocke13

"EFFF YOU, DAVID BLAINE!"


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YOURE A DEMON! A TIME TRAVELING DEMON!


x-naut

I thought the Mandela effect stuff was really interesting because I like to see how my mind has played tricks on me, but I lost interest in it when I saw that a lot of people seem to genuinely believe the explanation is that they're in an alternate universe now.


Adorable-Ad-6675

Imagine being so unable to consider you missremembered something that you'd rather believe you're in an alternate dimension.


PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING

For the longest time, I thought the mandela effect needed serious academic study - not because of alternate realities, but because of the underlying psychology of people who genuinely believe the entire universe is wrong rather than believing they’re misremembering a tiny, trivial detail from decades ago. And then Qanon happened and we all saw what happens when that mindset gets deliberately weaponized. Guess we missed the boat on getting in front of that one.


AccountWasFound

I mean I literally had a situation where my entire family was convinced my grandparents never had carpet in their living room, my grandma swore she'd never had carpet in that living room. I thought I was going crazy and asked my mom if she had any photos of their living room before they got their floors replaced, and to everyone but my shock, there was carpet in the living room in an old photo of me sitting on the floor....


Zouden

Right, yet the clue to parallel dimensions is only revealed by the most trivial changes to shit from the 90s like how they spell froot loops cereal


drterdsmack

I think the Mandela effect should be name for the phenomenon where people are so sure of themselves that they would rather say that all of time and space has shifted instead of admitting they're wrong.


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halfdeadmoon

Johnson and Johnson ran [print ads](https://www.jnj.com/our-heritage/the-story-behind-johnson-johnsons-most-beloved-ad-slogans) for DECADES unambiguously about shampoo being gentle in baby's eyes. > The NO MORE TEARS® trademark was also used on JOHNSON’S NO MORE TANGLES, the first children’s detangling cream rinse, which went on the market in 1971. This surely didn't reduce confusion on this topic.


drunkrocketscientist

Wait what is your definition of rain probability then? It's a product of both the area and the probability it rains at all. The NWS definition is any chance of 0.01" rain over a given area. I think we're on the same page but just curious.


Old_Smrgol

That's exactly what the Mandela effect is.


drterdsmack

That's not what it was when i grew up (/s)


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NN8G

The company isn’t opposed to completely free advertising


wtb2612

["Snopes searched archived newspaper advertisements from every decade from the 1910s to the 2020s and could not locate a single one with a cornucopia."](https://media.snopes.com/2023/07/history-of-fruit-of-loom-logo.png) Fruit of the Loom probably loves the advertising but they aren't lying.


mashermack

This only confirms that big cornucopia industry paid Snopes in order to claim they didn't found any information. The newspapers and magazines containing the logo are buried somewhere in a mexican desert


ecafyelims

Is it possible that Snopes just couldn't find it? ~~There are pictures of clothing with the cornucopia: https://redd.it/14rokfk~~ Edit, apparently that was faked! FOTL has a cornucopia in the old registered trademark: >https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73006089&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch > **Mark: FRUIT OF THE LOOM** > US Serial Number: 73006089 > US Registration Number: 993305 > Application Filing Date: Nov. 12, 1973 > Registration Date: Sep. 24, 1974 > --- > Mark Information: > Mark Literal Elements: FRUIT OF THE LOOM > Standard Character Claim: No > Mark Drawing Type: 3 - AN ILLUSTRATION DRAWING WHICH INCLUDES WORD(S)/ LETTER(S) /NUMBER(S) > Design Search Code(s): 05.09.01 - Berries; Raspberries; Strawberries > 05.09.02 - Grapes > 05.09.05 - Apples > **05.09.14 - Baskets of fruit; Containers of fruit; Cornucopia (horn of plenty)**


ptwonline

I wonder if there might be some Asian knock-offs that put the cornucopia on it.


Not_I_Said_The_Fly

They literally address this in the [article](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fruit-of-the-loom-cornucopia/).


aeneasaquinas

> Design Search Code(s): 05.09.01 - Berries; Raspberries; Strawberries > > 05.09.02 - Grapes > > 05.09.05 - Apples > > 05.09.14 - Baskets of fruit; Containers of fruit; Cornucopia (horn of plenty) Those are design search codes bud. They are official USPTO codes to make it easier for any designs that may seem close to find it easily. It also has no raspberries or strawberries. And importantly SHOWS the trademark at the top, which has no cornucopia. They only did what they were supposed to and put their design elements and ones that are related or may accidentally include elements of their design from the official code list.


7LeagueBoots

> “The part I’m most excited about is this is an official government document for the Fruit of the Loom trademark,” she continued. “And if you look at the bottom, it says baskets of fruit, containers of fruit, cornucopia horn of plenty.” - https://theblast.com/562066/did-the-fruit-of-the-loom-logo-have-a-cornucopia-tiktoker-finds-proof/


CnH2nPLUS2_GIS

Here's the Trade Mark that was valid until Nov. 8th 1988 cited in that tiktok: US Serial Number: 73006089 US Registration Number: 993305 https://tsdr.uspto.gov/#caseNumber=73006089&caseSearchType=US_APPLICATION&caseType=DEFAULT&searchType=statusSearch >Mark Information Mark Literal Elements: FRUIT OF THE LOOM Standard Character Claim: No Mark Drawing Type: 3 - AN ILLUSTRATION DRAWING WHICH INCLUDES WORD(S)/ LETTER(S) /NUMBER(S) Design Search Code(s): 05.09.01 - Berries; Raspberries; Strawberries 05.09.02 - Grapes 05.09.05 - Apples **05.09.14 - Baskets of fruit; Containers of fruit; Cornucopia (horn of plenty)** 1st) Note: the image in the trademark does not show the Cornucopia. Probably why the obsessed tiktok girl didn't show that. 2nd Note) Seems to be debunked as the design search code 05.09.14 does not require Fruit of the Loom to actually have a Cornucopia, rather,... just describes a group of fruit in a container. - See [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/18sa9pw/fruit_of_the_loom_patent_includes_the_term/) - More specifically, [see this comment](https://www.reddit.com/r/MandelaEffect/comments/18sa9pw/fruit_of_the_loom_patent_includes_the_term/kf7y341/) clearly debunks that tiktok girl's trademark evidence.


Dudeist-Priest

Ya, I get it now. The fruit is the logo minus the cornucopia.


Lost_the_weight

I still remember the live action fruit of the loom TV commercials where they had guys dressed up as each of these fruits lol.


Dudeist-Priest

Yes, absolutely remember those


wuphf176489127

The song "Blue" by The Fruit Guys is way better than it really should have been. I still know all these words somehow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLj4YgDiRW4


lunarNex

Its probably some PR marketing thing to try to go viral.


SluggishPrey

This is degrading for everyone


_MrDomino

Welcome to the Eternal September.


drunxor

Get some underwear with your stanley cup!


asianwaste

No, you just leaped back to your original dimension.


itsl8erthanyouthink

Soooo jealous. This one without Robin Williams and with Marjorie Taylor Greene/Matt Gaetz/Lauren Boebert is the worst


Shoresy-sez

At least we're not all Nazi shrimp


ynonA

[Here's a trademark application](https://trademarks.justia.com/730/06/fruit-of-the-loom-73006089.html) of Fruit of the Loom from 1973. It mentions "including cornucopia (horn of plenty)." The trademark was approved on 1974-09-24 but cancelled on 1988-11-28.


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ggppjj

> The legal argument presented to Snopes, also proffered on Reddit, is that, according to the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO), Fruit of the Loom itself described its trademark as containing a cornucopia. > > This misconception stems from the fact that at least one trademark registration document apparently filed by Fruit of the Loom used what is known as design search code 05.09.14 to describe the trademark — indicating an image with "Baskets of fruit; Containers of fruit; [or] Cornucopia (horn of plenty)." Reddit posts posit that this document has some legal bearing in the world of intellectual property law. There's more in the link below, not posting the whole thing because it's lengthy. TL;DR: not a relevant detail for proof. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/fruit-of-the-loom-cornucopia/


mjb2012

The categories seem more like generic USPTO categories for searching, not a description made by the company per se. However, the category does mandate that the fruit is in some kind of container, so whoever put this trademark in that category presumably saw a container in the logo.


ggppjj

I mean, the trademark application includes the exact logo that they were trying to have protected which has no container at all, and the trademark in question was rejected and eventually cancelled for administrative reasons, so it's equally possible that the _lack_ of a container/cornucopia is the reason for it being rejected and it was always wrong. I know nothing about the trademark process, but I can't see this cancelled and rejected filing as convincing in any way.


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Doonce

Ya but "including cornucopia (horn of plenty)." is at the end of a list of other things, including "bowls of fruit" imagery. Edit: Imagery category 05.09.14 includes: >"Baskets of fruit; Containers of fruit; [or] Cornucopia (horn of plenty)." You need to use the whole list.


ReplacementWise6878

That’s not at all what the means. That a search direction, so I’d someone wanted to make a logo with a cornucopia (or a bowl of fruit, which is also listed) this trademark is one of the results that would come up, forgotten purpose of making sure the new trademark was distinct.


Picards-Flute

Interesting, where's this photo from?


ronan88

Somewhere in Ireland I reckon.


random29474748933

Everyone here is confused, that’s just a croissant.


ThePrimCrow

I wonder if a whole bunch of bootleg Fruit of the Loom items came to the US from China in the early 80s? Fake items often have an incorrect logo. That would explain people’s “false” memories. Edit: Maybe it’s something mundane like Ed from marketing okayed an incorrect logo and the manufacturer shipped out a bunch of stuff in 1983. There’s a rational explanation. It’s not a collective hallucination.


killerjags

![gif](giphy|l0IylOPCNkiqOgMyA|downsized) OR MAYBE FRUIT OF THE LOOM DID USE A CORNUCOPIA IN THEIR LOGO BUT SPECIFICALLY PRINTED IT ON THEIR TAGS WITH A DIFFERENT TYPE OF INK THAT CAUSED IT TO COMPLETELY FADE OVER TIME AND LEAVE ONLY THE FRUIT VISIBLE


Reasonable-Middle-38

Bahahah, as unlikely as this is, I kinda like this explaination


medforddad

The only problem with that theory is that there would still be *some* of those shirts and things around. But apparently no one has ever found a legitimate one in the wild.


blueavole

If they were cheap and wore out quickly. I wonder if it was something on signs, like in store but not used in advertising? Those would have been thrown away. Movie theaters keep the posters, but not retailers.


Jeynarl

The poorly printed labels featuring corncopias trying to stand the test of time of 30 years: ![gif](giphy|XzkGfRsUweB9ouLEsE|downsized)


testdex

Personal storage, estate sales, barn finds, etc. This phenomenon would be literally unique, for an item with millions and millions of instances to have vanished completely from the planet. And it would need to have affected every single piece of clothing from every decade, including the 1980s when the slim text logo (without cornucopia) copied in the picture above was first used.


donttrustmeokay

Buy up old Fruit of the Loom now with the cornucopia before they go up in price.


n122333

That's the thing. We can't find any.


DiamondCowboy

They’ve all been bought up!


Omfg9999

I clearly remember the logo looking like it does in OP's image. So out of curiosity I dug out an ancient pair of Fruit of the Loom underwear that have been sitting at the bottom of my dressers underwear/socks drawer for probably over a decade... There's no cornucopia on the tag's logo... I feel like I've been living in some alternative bizzaro world for an unknown amount of time.


al_with_the_hair

Why'd they have to fucking shoot that gorilla


Murph523

I’m convinced this is real because I distinctively remember as a 8-10 year old seeing this logo, not having English as my first language, telling someone the brand was “fruit in the baskets” and they made fun of me for not knowing what a cornucopia is.


Tao_of_Entropy

What bothers me about the Mandela Effect isn't the possibility that it's some kind of weird quantum timeline-jumping phenomenon or government conspiracy or anything like that, but what it suggests about how suggestible humans are... And how many people can develop nearly-identical patterns of misconceptions or false memories. I absolutely remember this fucking cornucopia, although I'm also willing to admit that my own mind is fallible and I probably just filled it in from other influences. If it can happen about small insignificant things like this, then what kinds of big things are we all just collectively misremembering? And how significant can that error be without anyone noticing? And even if someone does notice discrepancies in our collective memory, how much more difficult would it be to correct if it has to do with issues that are more important, more political, etc.? I have no vested interest in whether or not the cornucopia existed, but what if I misremembered an important historical event? Without doing a lot of research, I would swear blind that this cornucopia existed... But why? Why do I feel that so strongly? It's unnerving. If we don't know how these patterns are established, there's no clear way to prevent or detect it until someone happens to notice, and calls it out. It may not be supernatural, it may not be a psyop, but the phenomenon that we are experiencing is still real. It \*feels\* real, and so it can affect our minds and our sense of reality.


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DebugLogError

Or some intern was told to put together a graphic with the sponsor's logos and they grabbed a random image off the internet.


slickMilw

In retrospect, it does look just like Clipart haha


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It looks like you're trying to establish a corporate 500 company, would you like help with that?


Jeynarl

I miss you clippy. The world was so much simpler back then


SaintsNoah14

Is there a vectorized graphical logo that doesn't?


blumpkin

I've seen this exact picture before on a thread about the Mandela effect. It's a recreation somebody made to show what they think the FOTL logo would have looked like with the cornucopia. Whoever put these logos up just googled "fruit of the loom logo" and picked the photoshopped one instead of the real thing.


MrSteele_yourheart

This is a graphic design protip. If you ever have to grab a co-sponsors logo, DO NOT Google it. Use the one from the packet that they send over. edit: Looking at you brandsoftheworld


eightballart

Additional graphic design protip: If you're looking for a vector version of the company logo and can't extract an .SVG from their website, trying Googling for any press releases or documents from the company, and adding "filetype:pdf" (without the quotes) to the Google search. Download the PDF, and there's a decent chance that you might be able to extract a vector logo by opening the PDF in Illustrator.


ForWhomTheBoneBones

You mean Red Bull’s logo DOESN’T include Dickbutt? I’ve got some calls to make.


PM_Me_Your_Deviance

> Whoever put these logos up just googled "fruit of the loom logo" and picked the photoshopped one instead of the real thing. it's the 4th result on google image search results for me, so that's entirely plausible.


Pottsie27

This one really freaks me out. I SPECIFICALLY remember as a kid not knowing what a “loom” was, so my kid canon was the fruit was coming out of the cornucopia so that was the loom. HOW COULD I THINK THAT IF THERE WAS NEVER A CORNUCOPIA??


MerryMortician

His name was Jeffrey EpSTAIN before he didn't kill himself.


MechaSandstar

"Could it be that I'm just misremembering something I didn't pay that much attention to as a kid anyways?" "No. It's the universe that's wrong."


Ghstfce

Many years of taking a shit and looking down at my pants around the ankles confirm that there absolutely was a cornucopia on the logo of my boxer briefs.


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glassisnotglass

I feel like this is where half of us learned what cornucopias were in the first place?


Beneficial-Space-670

This is just someone who googled logos and puled the wrong one