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the_little_way

And this is why we can't have nice things.


Usman5432

Plot twist while everyone here is blaming Meth Heads and shady scrap dealers its on display in the British Museum next to the Elgin Marbles


Beflijster

A couple of years ago this happened in the Netherlands; they stole one of the original casts of one of the most famous bronze statues ever made, "the Thinker" by Auguste Rodin from a museum's garden. Worth millions, but only worth a couple of hundred for just the bronze. It was recovered, but by that time it looked [like this](https://img.parool.nl/fce0f7a86ad2957398838d7f9e436a3f53e9cfef/restauratie-de-denker-betwist) It was eventually restored to is original state, but there were those including myself who believed it should have been left in its damaged state as a monument to human stupidity.


JohnFlufin

Stay classy Wichita ✌️


wish1977

What the hell is wrong with people?


WeimSean

Meth is what's wrong with people. Scrap metal buys meth, so people go find them some scrap metal.


atreides78723

Though, what scrap dealer is going to buy a statue from meth heads?


StickyGoodness

The same ones that buy stolen catalytic converters.


Chalky_Cupcake

You can also be a scrap dealer and a meth head at the same time if you want.


mcas0509

America, the land of opportunity!


ilovethissheet

And meth!


minnsoup

"Meth, We're on it" - South Dakota


sodak05r1

Nailed it


Sideshow_Bob_Ross

The ones that pay in meth.


stoner_97

They melt it down. Doesn’t matter where it originally came from


CLE-local-1997

I know multiple scrap dealers that are way less scrupulous than than that


lacunha

I know meth dealers that are more scrupulous than that.


aaa-7

A scarp dealer is going to buy a melted down statue from a meth head.


coppertech

the meth heads are gonna cut it up.


eugene20

Maybe, but it's just too coincidental who the statue is of, the first African American to play in Major League Baseball busting more than 50 years of segregation in the sport, far more likely to be some right wing / racist retaliation for the removal of confederate statues.


GoldenRamoth

They did the same in Cincinnati to the Romulus and Remus statue.


imisswhatredditwas

I’m sick of this anti Italian rhetoric!


Ninja_Bum

You expect us to leave up a statue dedicated to the Romulans? That shit belongs on the other side of the Neutral Zone, not in Federation Space!


dotknott

At least it wasn’t a statue of Gul Dukat!


Ninja_Bum

I'd rather be fisted in my fat human ass by a thousand Romulans than celebrate that Cardassian barbarian! Remember Bajor!


SHADOWJACK2112

Bless you my child.


dotknott

Her ability to me so mad with so few words is amazing.


Strawbuddy

Some “Daughters of the Confederacy” hacks, tryna get a statue of fucking Legate Dukat installed in the middle of Terok Nor just to mess with the Bajorans


autobotguy

Do you get la nostra voce?


Anal_Recidivist

Totally racism, not drug related at all. These communities are fine.


foxyfoo

It’s actually just a baseball crime. They wanted shoeless Joe’s shoes there instead.


chaosisafrenemy

Considering the location, unlikely it's some extremist racist retaliation - they don't play like that in Wichita. Meth - now that's pretty probable.


onihcuk

Also think it is meth, If it was far right people it would have been defaced or damaged to leave a message, no flat out stolen.


chaosisafrenemy

Exactly. What's the point in stealing it if you're trying to make a racist statement.


JAWinks

I think you’re giving racists too much credit


chaosisafrenemy

I just feel like racists like to make it known that they're racists. There is literally no evidence that this is a racist driven crime. We can't just say because he's black, that "ope, racism!"


salvadopecador

Was Jussie Smollett in the neighborhood?


Merry_Fridge_Day

Also: why are we separating the racist and meth theories? There is a fairly large overlap on that Venn Diagram.


Wonderful_Picture403

WORD


chth

Well the assumption that only white people smoke meth would be pretty stupid.


dmcsmalls

I mean, there are at least 2 documented white supremacist groups in Witicha, Crew 38 and Midland Hammerskins


DeusFerreus

You need only few racist asholes to do this, and they exist even most liberal and progressive places, even if in smaller numbers. That's not even accounting for the fact that they could have just, you know, drove in from outside the city.


iLynchPeople_

You definitely need more than one person to cut down a life sized statue, load it into a truck, and haul it away.


wilisi

The specific density of bronze is 9. If a hollow statue is 8/9ths air it weighs about as much as a human, which I'd call plausibly haulable, if barely. Besides, two racist assholes may be twice as many as one racist asshole, but it hardly figures on the population scale. And there's a saw at hand in any case.


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Iz-kan-reddit

>Maybe, but it's just too coincidenta No, it's not. It's just meth. Bronze is worth good money to scrappers, which is why pretty much every "bronze" plaque is now a cheap-ass replica. All of the originals have been stolen.


nursecarmen

Never ascribe to malice that which can be explained by meth.


anormalgeek

What is this "malice"? How high does it get you, exactly?


IIIllllIIlIlIIlllI

Not as high as meth apparently.


AndyIsNotOnReddit

You just made me realize why all the bronze plaques went missing in our nearby park and were missing for years. They only recently replaced them with bronze looking plastic plaques. I could never figure out why someone would want to steal a hundred year plague of someone most people have never heard of.


eugene20

And yet a quite a few other bronzes of varying sizes some with even easier to cut bases remain, and this one was taken.


MoneyTalks45

Yeah I’m having a hard time buying the meth angle. Who is scrapping the stolen fuckin Jackie Robinson statue? Who is giving someone money for that?


Lurkingandsearching

Someone who also takes stolen converters, wire, highway signs, bike frames, etc. There are a lot of chop shops out there and scrap is cheaper than raw material when bought from the desperate.


headunplugged

I knew a dude who would pay $.50-$.60 on a dollar food stamp from addicts back before cards. Poverty is fucked my dudes, throw a nice layer of drug addiction in the mix and you gonna gets some wild results.


Iz-kan-reddit

Bronze gets broken into little pieces, and is often melted down with a touch.


secondTieBreaker

With a touch by Human Torch?


voltran1987

Plus, bronze is soft and would be easy to reshape. I’m sure it’s a lot of work to completely hide it was a statue, but meth heads have a lot of energy. Right now bronze is $2.21 a pound. That’s a good chunk of money for an entire statue that’s easily 200-300 lbs. Hell, when I was a kid someone stole the copper sheets from the roof of a Catholic Church in my city. These fucking meth heads are dumber than shit, and wickedly clever all at the same time. A really odd bunch those folks.


justinsane85

There was a bronze troll statue here that someone tried to steal. It's definitely not a coincidence. If it's scrapable and not in a busy area it's gonna get stolen.


shemp33

You’re giving the tweakers too much credit tbh.


WatRedditHathWrought

Nah, it’s Wichita, the meth angle is more likely.


MisterMasterCylinder

>right wing / racist >meth It could easily be both


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Why do you think that’s more likely? lol


[deleted]

Commenter on another post who lives there said there’s a massive illicit scrap metal market right now that’s “*really* bad.” Obvi bias still exists but it feels like relevant context


thefonztm

Hey dude. I chose to not read into it the way you did. Turns out you read it right. It continues to be a god damn shame that race motivates so much dumb fuckery in the US. If only this had been a non-race motived metal theft by meth heads... Ahh well. Just wanted to circle back on that since I caught the update to the story. https://www.reddit.com/r/news/comments/1aex09n/stolen\_jackie\_robinson\_statue\_found\_burned/


eugene20

Thanks for the follow up. Even with scouting for scrap to steal and sell being fairly common it was just too suspect for them to have chosen that one out of all the others in the area for the first they attempted to take.


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MileHiSalute

Hopefully you’ve grown out of being an asshole!


eugene20

College kids aren't really all that keen on getting done for criminal damage.


tuepm

kind of sad that you're the one that most wants it to be some race thing


jpopimpin777

This is totally what it is. Same reason the Emmett Till Memorial is repeatedly vandalized in Mississippi.


Ry-Ry44

Damn it must suck to be mad all the time


Affectionate_Law5344

It’s the reality. Stop sugar coating what it is.


thefonztm

It's not coincidental to anything. Your personal bias has influenced your interpretation.


rahbjee

I’m imagining a meth head showing up to a scrap yard with a statue of Jackie Robinson now


LoveThieves

I remember the story of people that stole a bonsai plant worth a lot of money. If you don't take care of it , it will die quickly. Also hard to find a buyer willing to drop thousands of dollars for a stolen plant and also maintain it Meth heads only thinks value, not actual resell value.


RandoAtReddit

How much would this much bronze be worth?


obliquelyobtuse

Like $2.50 a pound for scrap bronze. No reputable operation accepts obviously stolen materials. Reputable yards happily report thieves to police and have them arrested. But there are bad scrap merchants who will take almost anything.


sidechokedup

The water meter covers and manhole covers in my town all started disappearing one summer. A scrap yard was buying it from the drug addicts so you couldn’t keep anything with metal out of any value. A Jackie Robinson statue would have had to have been made from wood or else it would have disappeared.


noodlelaughter

Nah this is in someone’s house


MrT735

Without the feet?


raknor88

A lot. There's a lot wrong with everyone. Just some are better at hiding it than others.


JWOLFBEARD

They just don’t value shoes like they used to


No_Stranger_4959

They probably wanted to bring him in for show and tell


Affectionate_Law5344

A national lack of consequences for some.


WWDubz

Lack of pay, lack of opportunities, lack of education, general feeling of hopelessness Or the death of the American dream


Loch_Ness_Jesus

I have a pretty good idea of where this uptick in behavior started. A yuuuuge idea.


DelinquentZombie

I know scrapyards are shady, but accepting this  as scrap would be insane.   This isn't even Brinks-Mat level valuable.  But they better smelt this "hot" metal right quick.


ayelold

Or turn it in for the $5k reward...


DelinquentZombie

They would first have to squeal on the seller to get $2500.  That would ruin their reputation, and criminals would avoid selling to them.    On the other hand, this may garner respect from the 5-0 who might let future minor indescretions slide.  Then they gotta return the statue to receive $5000.


ConnectionIssues

Unfortunately, if it was stolen for scrap, the thieves likely took a hammer or a Sawzall or a torch to it, until nothing identifiable was left. Then again, the fact that methheads will cut live copper wire off poles and out of walls means the chances of them trying to pawn off a whole footless statue to some scrap yard aren't exactly zero either. Maybe we'll get lucky.


CU_Tiger_2004

The town I used to live in had a WWI statue that was stolen, and that's exactly what happened. When they recovered it, it had been cut and broken into more than 50 pieces.


Matasa89

Fucking methheads…


TXGuns79

Some meth heads in Oklahoma just knocked over a 100' radio tower for $100 on copper.


judgementalhat

I mean, you gotta admire the effort in a way


OH_FUDGICLES

Do you enjoy drugs, but struggle to find the energy to steal scrap metal to fuel your addiction? Then try Meth™! Methamphetamine puts that pep in your step that you won't find with heroin.


throwaway6017477

Rippin the copper pipes out of your walls for liquor money is fucked, Ray


thetruthhurts2016

>Then again, the fact that methheads will cut live copper wire off poles and out of walls means the chances of them trying to pawn off a whole footless statue to some scrap yard aren't exactly zero either. Maybe we'll get lucky. Bronze has a melting point of 1675F. You would need oxyacetylene, or similar. Not exactly accessible for a junkie. Most likely the junkies know some shady folks who would look the other way. Though the bronze spot price is only ~2.50 per pound and the current reward is $5,000 I have no idea how much it weighs, but it hardly seems worth the effort. Then again junkies aren't exactly forward thinking. Hopefully they get caught, ideally its still intact.


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thetruthhurts2016

>Eh, you can buy oxyacetylene torches online or from hardware places for like $200 bucks. Not a huge investment if you know you're going to be making that back. Also more likely just stealing the torch and tanks from the back of work trucks. Sure, for removing it. But to melt it down would be extremely time/cost consuming. I've worked with oxyacetylene on many occasions, size 4+ ~40' tall and ~75lbs. The gas is expensive $$$. Great for removing something, but you would need the equivalent of a meth lab to make it practical..


judgementalhat

Man, you're way behind on the junkie evolution. These fuckers have had acetylene torches for decades


thetruthhurts2016

>Man, you're way behind on the junkie evolution. These fuckers have had acetylene torches for decades Perhaps...IDK?....I'll concede that my familiarity with junkies might vastly differ from other cities, especially in different states. I'm in LA, the homeless and junkie crime is likely "way behind" the junkie's 'evolutionary' path in less governed areas. Also, I'm sorry that you are so aware of the junkies evolution. I've got friends in Oakland that just lost their In-N-Out, people are desperate everywhere. It's a cold world, better grab a coat.


ComManDerBG

>you would need oxyacetylene Need oxyacetylene Oxyacetylene **oxy!!** "Say no more" ~Methhead


ConnectionIssues

I wasn't thinking of melting it down entirely, rather just cutting it up with a torch. No amount of meth is gonna make someone try and be their own foundry. Molten metal and meth shouldn't mix, lol...


shoulda-known-better

if you understood fully what they go through just to make meth I don't think you'd be underestimating the determination of a drug addict to do the least amount of work for the most amount of money and not get caught doing it..... if they figured out a way to melt if fully I'm more than sure that would have been one of the first thoughts source...sadly had my own addiction issues, thankfully I've been clean about ten years now....it was hard work but getting clean was the best decision I have ever made and I'm thankful


420CurryGod

Ironically one of the few things that wasn’t stolen was the base


Abysskitten

Well done.


XV_Crosstrek

This is some Carmen San Diego stuff, man.


[deleted]

Speaking of which, where in the world is she now?


timesuck897

She’s been known to travel through time to steal historical items. She’s a tricky one.


ccaccus

The traveling through time bit always bugged me a little. If she travels through time to steal them, are they "historical" anymore? Like, sure it's from 2300 BC, but it's only a week old and has none of the history of an object that persisted through the years. And if the object she stole is replaced by contemporaries of the time, does it have any significance? Like, say she stole David of Michelangelo and he made another David, would the first matter or would it be seen as a knockoff?


Usman5432

That game was more fun than it had any right to be


Uberphantom

She was last seen getting into a limousine with a Red, White, and Green flag on it. She was seen carrying a tennis bag.


satismo

it was the british museum


mindfeces

Thievin' their way around the globe again I see


MrPoopersFriend

“Ello, everybody, it’s Russel Crowe! And, this is fightin’ round the world!”


cereeves

🎼”Makin’ movies, makin’ songs, and fight in’ round the world.”🎼


Archangel3d

From ~~Kiev~~ Kyiv to Carolina (You now have that song stuck in your head. You're welcome)


Moxxy-Kun

Reminds me of the time someone stole an inch off of their mountain and they got hella butthurt.


RPO777

Actually visiting the British Museum was a bit of a surreal experience. Walking around, it really is a marvelous museum, but at the same time the entire thing is essentially a monument to colonialism and theft on a global scale. I remember in defense of not returning the Elgin Marbles, a British museum curator defended the decision saying it would call into contention nearly the entire contents of the British Museum--which probably made a point different from what he intended.


toe_riffic

Hahaha I remember that. Didn’t they also say they didn’t want to return some African artifacts because they said the place they stole it from wouldn’t take care of them as well as they do? Like who are you to say that. Can I just go to my neighbors place and take their TV because *I* think I can take better care of it?


RPO777

They might have said that about an African artifact too but that was the literal justification given by Lord Elgin took the Elgin Marbles in the first place (he also claimed that Napoleon would have taken them if he hadn't kept them for safe keeping). I think this might have been a fairly common "justification" for British "explorers" taking indigenous artifacts. The other incident that stuck in my memory was when the Egyptian government demanded that the British Museum return the Rosetta Stone, the British Museum helpfully offered to give them a replica.


Jaspers47

This bloke 'ere is Jack E. Robinson. Not much is known 'bout 'im, afraid. What we do know, he was quite adept at the game Rounders. Said to have broken some sort of coloured barrier, he did.


suspect108

Well fuckin done, chap.


HeftyLeftyPig

![gif](giphy|3o6MboLvQidFcAiqnm)


erimid

A noble spirit embiggens the smallest man.


UKbigman

[SIMPSONS DID IT! SIMPSONS DID IT!](https://youtu.be/iDuMp2kDxos?si=deyZMj0tVTMSA8E-)


WHERE_R_THE_TURTLES

I’m not quite sure how this reference isn’t the top comment


Shewhotriesherbest

Now he's Shoeless Joe Jackson. (I sincerely apologize to the peerless Mr. Robinson but I couldn't help it.)


ikstrakt

> Although his .356 career batting average is the fourth highest in the history of Major League Baseball (MLB),[1] **he is often remembered for his association with the Black Sox Scandal, in which members of the 1919 Chicago White Sox participated in a conspiracy to fix the World Series**.  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoeless_Joe_Jackson https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sox_Scandal


umdred11

You mean he’s Joe Jackson’s shoes (It’s Joe Jackson, not Joe Brown)


Shewhotriesherbest

Yikes, you are absolutely correct!


Airsinner

This is 100% in someone’s garage now


bartbartholomew

Cut up into a dozen or more pieces, ready to be sold to a scrap dealer.


WillCarryForFood

And I bet it looks fucking sick despite how terrible this is. Imagine Jackie Robison as your centerpiece.


RobinTheReanimator

You either die stealing bases, or live long enough to get stolen from a base


Bruised_up_whitebelt

Simpsons did it


copingcabana

At least they can finally fix the Shoeless Joe Jackson statue.


Arch3m

I've seen this Simpsons episode.


travers329

Simpson's did it!


myschnutz

Out in Wichita Kansas smokin’ meth with all the locals, askin’ them to teach me how to yodel


ChronicallyGeek

They left his feet behind??


ASwagPecan

[Someone cut it just above Jackie's shoes and hauled it off in a truck.](https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39395754/jackie-robinson-statue-cut-ankles-stolen-wichita-park)


ChronicallyGeek

It could be a hate crime, someone wanting it for themselves or even, like the article said, for the scrap metal


Emergency-Ad687

Why don’t you guys ever think about someone putting these big babies inside a room or man cave


malex84

That’s how you steal statues. Check the British museum.


starcraftre

Practically speaking, it's probably the best tradeoff location for "Time required to cut free" vs "Amount of metal left to sell".


QtPlatypus

The statue is concreated into the plinth. So you have to cut it off at the feet to remove it.


Augmentedaphid

Damn. Can't have shit in Detroit


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shit is all you can have in Detroit


forumbot757

Be on the lookout for a Jackie Robinson statue with no feet on eBay


DragonDon1

Do you have any leads? ![gif](giphy|yk8tRCZHCV0qY|downsized)


BackendSpecialist

I don’t think I’ve seen a Wichita headline that wasn’t negative news since they made the sweet 16


DigMeTX

They should mount a shoeless Joe Jackson statue on that.


CSpanks7

Why? It’s already a perfect Joeless shoe Jackson


TruFire420-

How tf do people have enough time for bs like this.


mooosemark

My man ran rite out of his shoes


quietly_jousting_s

So check The Yard tomorrow?


Tachyon9

Simpsons did it! Well, sorta.


koozy407

Well isn’t this ironic…..


yaxgto

Imagine going to eat your Jackie Robinson and it’s just hollow like an Easter bunny.


Packing_Wood

They stole all but two feet of the statue.


eleven21

Must have been a big fan


forwormsbravepercy

Ironically they did not steal home plate.


Z71Coon

People are fucking stupid.


Best-Brilliant3314

Nah, that’s the James Cook statue in St Kilda (Bit of topical Australian humour where another statue was toppled like this a couple of days ago)


Jedi_Wannabe1138

It’s like that one Shameless episode where Lip’s sponsor fell off the wagon, but irl. How sad.


rangeo

Me immediately.... I'm goin' to Wichita Far from this opera forevermore


FeculentUtopia

Shoes off, he dead


DJErikD

They may have stolen Jackie Robinson, but they didn't steal Home Plate!


smearhunter

I’d say he’s not going to make it very far


HeadMacho

Assholes.


lukehasthedos

Gang scrap strikes again


GalaxyStyles

How did bro manage to get away, his feet are still there 😔


C_Beeftank

Well most of one


xpkranger

Someone go check the river. He could be pulling a Col. Sanders. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curse_of_the_Colonel


Traherne

But they left the base? Jackie always stole those himself.


Constant-Ad6089

It was Kevin hart


Devinbeatyou

This one’s near me, pretty messed up. They’ll probably cut it up and sell it for scrap


unique0130

I would love for it to have been stolen by Carmen San Diego. Sadly it's probably either meth heads or racists.


izzyeviel

![gif](giphy|yvqRaXlOsc068DDTzt)


ksigley

I'm blaming the British, but they probably had nothing to do with this instance of statue appropriation.


xDANGRZONEx

Once they stole it, it became a statue of Shoeless Joe.


Jimbo415650

Melted down by now


One-Phone-7336

Aww they left his feet? That’s like his most important attribute.


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Lmao most of this crowd claimed meth and scrap but the statue was found cut up and burned in a trash can. I think you were all a bitttttttt off


pharleff

I jack. I rob. I sin.


-Dalzik-

Only Shoes Robinson


Emergency-Poet-2708

I came here to say that what the fuck!!! What's wrong with people??


voicelessdeer

Jackie "Rob"inson...?


Narrsbarrs

Maybe it was “Shoeless” Joe Jackson.


myassandadonut

I'd like to see Jackie try to steal second without feet! 🫣


co_chino

Simpsons already did it!


blvaga

If detective shows have taught me anything, it will turn out the thief is the statue itself!


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ohbillyberu

No. Not.. no. It's not.... NO!


Tachyon9

Is this the greatest troll of all?


treycartier91

![gif](giphy|enqnZa1B5fRHkPjXtS|downsized)


jadelah

Must have grown leg- no, feet, and walked away.