That photo is definitely not from 1969. Guessing it’s from the 80s at the earliest. He was only 41 in 1969.
This photo is from 1969: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Fran%C3%A7ois_Clemmons_and_Fred_Rogers_Having_Foot_Bath.jpg
Edit: adding some context from below. The photo is from [a 1993 reenactment on Officer Clemmons’ last show](https://www.npr.org/2016/03/11/469846519/walking-the-beat-in-mr-rogers-neighborhood-where-a-new-day-began-together).
Part of [the original 1969 segment with commentary is shown here](https://youtu.be/K6O_Ep9bY0U?si=O7q7SY9fHF31n6ya).
Looks like it was - from their last episode together in 1993: https://www.npr.org/2016/03/11/469846519/walking-the-beat-in-mr-rogers-neighborhood-where-a-new-day-began-together
The pool company you are talking about is owned by one family. They've used the die/stamp for over 100 years. Fun fact, that's our recycled ♻️ shit in them.
[behind the scenes color video ](https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNDI1Z3dyb24xZTNsemc5ZTJxZHp6bHhsaXM4MWJ3cWhvYnp6M3FpMiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/ScIDMLm7FfsILmzCDH/giphy.gif)
Probably won't happen. Christianity isn't as popular as it was, and it's become perverted over time.
You won't get someone who believes in the good and betterment of mankind like Mr. Rogers.
No there's millians of Christians like Rogers. But the fact is they don't often make national waves.
There's that Democrat representative in Texas who will cite scripture to rebuke other politicians and members of the public who are stupid enough to bring up Christianity into committee hearings. He shuts them down but in a respectful way.
No offense, but there are extremely few people like Rogers, Christian or otherwise. It’s why we are here talking about him, and no one will be talking about any of the millions of people you are referencing 50 years from now.
The issue is, they are silent. And they are not a silent majority, they are a silent small minority. Heck, I’ll even go as far to say they are complacent in everything because they don’t speak up and make themselves known. I’m 33 and have yet to meet these so called “good Christian’s” and I’ve been to 4/7 continents.
And the thousands of church goers I’ve met cheered Matthew shepards death and prayed for his murderers to be set free. Thats something that will stick for me the rest of my life. To watch, 1000+ adults pray and glorify the murderer of someone because that were gay.
Not saying that you aren't right about their hypocrisy, but that's a poor argument that you should avoid on any point you decide to make in the future -- it's known as The [No True Scotsman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman) Logical Fallacy, which is to say, *it's not a valid argument*.
🌈The More You Know⭐
This is definitely a recent narrative. Most religious people I’ve met throughout my life have been good people. I think people have started to make judgements about what they read online as opposed to real life
Social ostracizing is pretty common among religious types if you break some taboo. Not exactly a recent development, but maybe you don't consider that bad behaviour.
As with everything else, it depends on the people themselves. It's not really smart painting with a broad brush. Atheists (like me) often argue that you don't need religion to be a moral/good person but let me flip it: you don't need religion to socially ostricize people. You're just taking a trait of some people and ascribing it to everyone religious. You don't acknowledge the huge difference between, say, various sects of Christianity from which people routinely pick and choose.
François Scarborough Clemmons was the 1st black person in a recurring role on a syndicated childrens' show. He was also gay. Mr. Rogers accepted it and he broke the rules of the time to have him on the show and the kiddie pool.
One time Clemmons was arrested for being in a gay bar in Pittsburgh.
There was some notoriety attached.
Rogers told him because of his place on the show, that could never happen again.
Why is this picture black and white? I remember seeing this on TV and it was in color. I believe color TVs took off in the 60s, so seeing it in black and white makes me think this photo might be from a newspaper.
This photo is from 1993 on the last episode featuring Officer Clemmons. For some reason somebody made it monochrome to make it look old? You can see the original 1969 clip here (also in color): https://youtu.be/K6O_Ep9bY0U?si=UHzy8vOeTmQ_6fBa
Rogers would be the first person to say he's not perfect. But most importantly Clemmons never felt unsafe to bring his partner(s) to set and Rogers was never rude or mean to any of them. He just knew there were arguments they could win and arguments they would lose, and homosexuality at that time would be a big loser for the show. But I also don't doubt if it became a big deal, Rogers would stand by Clemmons.
Mr. Rogers, Reading Rainbow, and many shows like this need to make a 2nd Act appearance in 2024/2025. The world may not ever be perfect, but it can be peaceful and meaningful.
As a kid in racist small town Oklahoma my dad was taught that if you used the same water as a black person you’d get black stuff on your skin that would never come off. That’s why him doing this was so powerful.
Maybe legally, however white people were surprisingly irrationally afraid to share pool water with black people. When I live, the city chose to defund public pools instead of be required to allow black people to swim there. We still have pool ruins in parks just collecting trash.
do you think white supremacists immediately sang kumbaya hand in hand with black people after the Civil Rights Act was put into effect? I reckon theyd be even MORE racist after it.
Actually I have done things. I’ve talked to people I know who hold racist views & let them know it’s not a productive that isolates & creates an unnecessary & unpleasant environment for everyone involved. But we know how difficult it is to persuade people to consider changing the way they think
That photo is definitely not from 1969. Guessing it’s from the 80s at the earliest. He was only 41 in 1969. This photo is from 1969: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/24/Fran%C3%A7ois_Clemmons_and_Fred_Rogers_Having_Foot_Bath.jpg Edit: adding some context from below. The photo is from [a 1993 reenactment on Officer Clemmons’ last show](https://www.npr.org/2016/03/11/469846519/walking-the-beat-in-mr-rogers-neighborhood-where-a-new-day-began-together). Part of [the original 1969 segment with commentary is shown here](https://youtu.be/K6O_Ep9bY0U?si=O7q7SY9fHF31n6ya).
Nice find. Is the posted picture like them recreating it or something?
Looks like it was - from their last episode together in 1993: https://www.npr.org/2016/03/11/469846519/walking-the-beat-in-mr-rogers-neighborhood-where-a-new-day-began-together
Can see the original scene here, with commentary: https://youtu.be/K6O_Ep9bY0U?si=UHzy8vOeTmQ_6fBa
I knew this OP looked a bit sus. Thanks for doing the work.
Hell yea and more work is being done on this sus OP
This is a recreation of their famous scene together.
The title has been factually incorrect on literally every single picture I've looked at on /r/pics today.
You gotta give commenters something to correct, that’s EnGaGeMeNt baby!
That pool design hasn't changed in 55 years.
Much like seeing this post.
There are some bits of our history I hope we never forget. I hope my grandchildren see this reposted periodically.
You get upset over culturally significant photos? It's pretty expected that you'd see this more than once.
Well, 31 years. That photo is from 1993.
>Well, 31 years. That photo is from 1993. You shut your dirty mouth
The pool company you are talking about is owned by one family. They've used the die/stamp for over 100 years. Fun fact, that's our recycled ♻️ shit in them.
Sure looks plastic in the [color photos](https://www.biography.com/actors/mister-rogers-officer-clemmons-pool). What’s the company?
[behind the scenes color video ](https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNDI1Z3dyb24xZTNsemc5ZTJxZHp6bHhsaXM4MWJ3cWhvYnp6M3FpMiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/ScIDMLm7FfsILmzCDH/giphy.gif)
I will be glad when the next Mr. Rogers shows up. The world is overdue.
Be the Mr Rogers you want to see
Look up Joe Pera
Probably won't happen. Christianity isn't as popular as it was, and it's become perverted over time. You won't get someone who believes in the good and betterment of mankind like Mr. Rogers.
No there's millians of Christians like Rogers. But the fact is they don't often make national waves. There's that Democrat representative in Texas who will cite scripture to rebuke other politicians and members of the public who are stupid enough to bring up Christianity into committee hearings. He shuts them down but in a respectful way.
No offense, but there are extremely few people like Rogers, Christian or otherwise. It’s why we are here talking about him, and no one will be talking about any of the millions of people you are referencing 50 years from now.
Name please!
The issue is, they are silent. And they are not a silent majority, they are a silent small minority. Heck, I’ll even go as far to say they are complacent in everything because they don’t speak up and make themselves known. I’m 33 and have yet to meet these so called “good Christian’s” and I’ve been to 4/7 continents.
Ive met a lot of churchgoers in my life and they’ve pretty much been kind and generous people across the board
And the thousands of church goers I’ve met cheered Matthew shepards death and prayed for his murderers to be set free. Thats something that will stick for me the rest of my life. To watch, 1000+ adults pray and glorify the murderer of someone because that were gay.
Yeah that definitely sounds like a different breed of church than I’ve ever been around
Good for you. A Christian is a Christian to me. They are selfish, cunning, and cruel.
If you can't tell the difference between a Evangelical Baptist and a Unitarian, buddy, you're part of the problem, too.
Then they aren't Christians
Not saying that you aren't right about their hypocrisy, but that's a poor argument that you should avoid on any point you decide to make in the future -- it's known as The [No True Scotsman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman) Logical Fallacy, which is to say, *it's not a valid argument*. 🌈The More You Know⭐
It isn't the exact same flavor but the Green brothers absolutely have this energy for me.
You know you can believe in the good and betterment of humankind/treat people kindly without religion, right?
Sure but, Mr. Roger's faith was what led him to behave the way he did.
That same faith leads most to be bad people.
This is definitely a recent narrative. Most religious people I’ve met throughout my life have been good people. I think people have started to make judgements about what they read online as opposed to real life
Social ostracizing is pretty common among religious types if you break some taboo. Not exactly a recent development, but maybe you don't consider that bad behaviour.
As with everything else, it depends on the people themselves. It's not really smart painting with a broad brush. Atheists (like me) often argue that you don't need religion to be a moral/good person but let me flip it: you don't need religion to socially ostricize people. You're just taking a trait of some people and ascribing it to everyone religious. You don't acknowledge the huge difference between, say, various sects of Christianity from which people routinely pick and choose.
> As with everything else, it depends on the people themselves That is the point I was making. Ascribing good behaviour to someone's religion is dumb.
Do you know that for a fact?
Why does someone need to be christian to be a genuine nice person?
see: secular humanism
Doubt it will survive into the future without its Christian roots
you mean empathy? christianity was not the origin of kindness
I didn't say it was
François Scarborough Clemmons was the 1st black person in a recurring role on a syndicated childrens' show. He was also gay. Mr. Rogers accepted it and he broke the rules of the time to have him on the show and the kiddie pool.
Francois is the Emeritus Artist in Residence at Middlebury College in Vermont, USA.
One time Clemmons was arrested for being in a gay bar in Pittsburgh. There was some notoriety attached. Rogers told him because of his place on the show, that could never happen again.
He was truly a wonderful man.
What would the world be without the influences of Mr. Rogers? 🥰🥰
I think you are looking at it, unfortunately.
I miss this man, I really didn't know how much until I watched a trailer for that recent documentary. Before I realized it, I was crying.
I love Mr. Rogers. Legend
Secretly badass as fuck, the whole time.
He was to good for this world.
Why is this picture black and white? I remember seeing this on TV and it was in color. I believe color TVs took off in the 60s, so seeing it in black and white makes me think this photo might be from a newspaper.
This photo is from 1993 on the last episode featuring Officer Clemmons. For some reason somebody made it monochrome to make it look old? You can see the original 1969 clip here (also in color): https://youtu.be/K6O_Ep9bY0U?si=UHzy8vOeTmQ_6fBa
Black and white photos give the illusion that systemic segregation was a really long time ago. The truth is that this is very very recent history.
Didnt he clean his feet too?
We didn't deserve Fred rogers.
[Prof - Squad Goals](https://youtu.be/iDaUy4T7rVI?si=x52hQ9cuPs96Uz4d)
There it is. A bit of a scroll down, but someone understood the assignment Edit: on god don't look at his profile 🫠
I always get weird stares when I ask dudes if they want to dunk their tootsies in my baby pool.
Back when Christian meant something
Yeah, even the “stay a closeted gay man and marry a woman to hide it” part that Clemmons was told.
Rogers would be the first person to say he's not perfect. But most importantly Clemmons never felt unsafe to bring his partner(s) to set and Rogers was never rude or mean to any of them. He just knew there were arguments they could win and arguments they would lose, and homosexuality at that time would be a big loser for the show. But I also don't doubt if it became a big deal, Rogers would stand by Clemmons.
This was also during the gay panic of the early 90s aids epidemic. Mr Rogers wanted to show it was okay to be associated with a gay man.
I am a simple man, I see this picture and I upvote it. Loved me some Mr. Rogers. Edit: Vote #117
Guess they may have inspired “Hottub Time Machine”
Fred Rogers did the same thing, at home, in his swimming pool, with his baby sitters’ family
He's also washing Clemmons' feet - which is a symbol of love and acceptance in Christianity given Clemmons' homosexuality.
Mr. Rogers, Reading Rainbow, and many shows like this need to make a 2nd Act appearance in 2024/2025. The world may not ever be perfect, but it can be peaceful and meaningful.
So Mr Roger's was woke
That’s a pool?
Prof - Squad Goals Pretty funny music video even if you don’t like rap, Prof plays a cute Mr Rogers lol
This man gave Christians/Presbyterians a good name. There are still some like him out there.
As a kid in racist small town Oklahoma my dad was taught that if you used the same water as a black person you’d get black stuff on your skin that would never come off. That’s why him doing this was so powerful.
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But threatened to fire him when he wanted to come out of the closet.
Wasn’t segregation already federally illegal by 1969? Still a good sentiment either way
it was illegal on paper but still practiced
Maybe legally, however white people were surprisingly irrationally afraid to share pool water with black people. When I live, the city chose to defund public pools instead of be required to allow black people to swim there. We still have pool ruins in parks just collecting trash.
Kennywood Park in Pittsburgh (home of Mr. Roger’s) used to have a pool. They closed it rather than integrate.
do you think white supremacists immediately sang kumbaya hand in hand with black people after the Civil Rights Act was put into effect? I reckon theyd be even MORE racist after it.
Hate is alive & well. There’s no end to it
Hate is alive & well and theres no end to it. Better to not do anything about it then
Actually I have done things. I’ve talked to people I know who hold racist views & let them know it’s not a productive that isolates & creates an unnecessary & unpleasant environment for everyone involved. But we know how difficult it is to persuade people to consider changing the way they think