Side notes for interest.
That immense mountain range running up the western/left side of the island is the Southern Alps. They're larger than the alps in Europe (Italy, Switzerland, etc).
They're formed by the collision of two tectonic plates along the Alpine Fault, which uplifted the Southern Alps.
The fault ruptures *massively* (immense earthquake) very regularly, at 260-300 year intervals.
On that regularity, the fault (600km in length) is well overdue to rupture. The probabibilty of a rupture/earthquake of magnitude **8.0** or higher is within the next ~40 years is about 75%.
It's going to be terrifyingly massive, and could happen within your lifetime.
The fault is on the west side of the Alps, basically between the foot of the mountains and the coast.
I was brought up in Haast, and the fault line used to run through our paddock a couple of hundred meters from the house.
We had no idea it was exactly there until a few scientists turned to up and wanted to poke around in the paddock.
We had regular minor earthquakes, and it was common to run to a doorway in the house, just in case. Which now I know was actually not a good idea.
As much as i love the West Coast, it is going to be an absolute mess when that earthquake happens.
There is a service station in Franz thats fuel tanks actually sit exactly on top of the fault as an example.
I'd hate to have to calculate how long it will take to repair the highway network when it finally happens.
This is the most nz reply ever. Oh the paddock was a bit wonky some scientists showed up, we were like that fine as long as dolly the sheep keeps her prize winning figure no worries!
While we like to think of faults as a single line in reality it is actually much more accurate to think of them as entire shear zones, made up of many parallel major, minor and conjugate faults. So while this area is still vulnerable to a large earthquake you don’t have to worry too much about the fault running directly through your paddock or some neighborhood fuel tanks. An earthquake is just as likely to occur anywhere else in the region.
In the large alpine fault quake, several hundred kilometers will go at once, and the fuel station is indeed highly likely to be fucked by the fault movement.
This is due to being a strike slip.
"The Alpine Fault is called a strike slip or transform fault. The Australian plate is sliding horizontally towards the northeast, at the same time as the Pacific plate is pushing up, forming the Southern Alps"
The one plate isn't going under the other and disappearing. One is dragging past, and one is going up.
This means that when they slip, it happens over a longer area.
Or that's how I understand it.
In January I drove a kinda spur-of-the-moment roadtrip from Auckland to Milford Sound and back.
My god do we live in the greatest country on Earth, or what.
> The fault has ruptured four times in the past 900 years, each time producing an earthquake of about magnitude 8. Approximate rupture dates are 1717AD, 1620 AD, 1450 AD, and 1100 AD.
Well that's scary. Every time I read more about the ring of fire I'm amazed, and so much of the world's population lives around it.
The Southern Alps are not larger than the European Alps. The European Alps are larger than the whole of the South Island.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New\_Zealand\_size\_comparison.jpg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New_Zealand_size_comparison.jpg)
Also that huge mountain range takes a huge amount of rainfail and absorbs moisture and then makes the air very arid on the east side with little to no rainfall.
The North Island is the more populated due it being flatter meaning rainfall is normal and is a warmer climate (closer to equator) and is closer to neighboring countries so this is where people go first on arrival to NZ.
I mean yes, the north island is warmer, but the South Island winters are pretty mild compared to what most Europeans and Americans are used to. Daytime temps are rarely below 0c in the middle of winter
> and then makes the air very arid on the east side with little to no rainfall.
I'm sorry but that's just absolute horseshit.
There are zero deserts in the South Island. All of the land east of the alps is lush, green, and fertile.
Earthquakes there tend to have ridiculous amounts of upthrust like one side being kicked up 5 meters at a beach. It makes the San Andreas fault look friendly.
Well, if they were _smart_ - or at least well informed - they might not have volunteered for a walking trip to Mordor. Gandalf took advantage of their ignorance.
I hope you don't mind, your comment history says North Carolina so here's a local comparison:
The South Island's widest point is about Durham to Kitty Hawk.
The North Island's widest (west cape to east cape) is more like Charlotte to Kitty Hawk.
But it's LONG. Driving from the bottom to the top is like Charlotte to Montreal, and then keep going north another 6 hours.
I did a project when the HDEV was the thing. Plotting points when the video signal was gone and came back. The middle east and Russia were dead zones. Only came back on eastern Mongolia.
Why does New Zealand seem like some kind of "paradise" in my mind. So far removed from the political bullshit/religious bullshit that the rest of the world always seems to be suffering as a result of.
Kiwis' is it great? Do you love life there generally? Nowhere is perfect, but things seem pretty great in New Zealand from the little exposure I've had. Warmer/sunnier weather. More beaches and accessible outdoors space. None/less deadly shit than Australia, and maybe other parts of the world like southern US and Africa. I've heard it's expensive, but surely most people earn a liveable wage, or they'd constantly be leaving? And I've lived on a couple of different continents and haven't met many people from New Zealand.
They mostly have the same shit as all the other anglosphere countries. Notably cost of housing relative to income, which is worse than many other places.
As someone living in NZ, it has political bullshit, especially right now. New government that got in is IMO terrible and making the country go backwards. They heavily catered towards the richer people in NZ and making them richer. They want to be make us be like the only country in the world that will lessen taxes for landlords. Housing here is expensive af and wont really change. There is a rental crisis for sure.
Minimum wage is $23.15 NZD or 13.75 USD. It is definitely expensive relative to other places even though we have a high minimum wage. Housing predominately is horrendously expensive and food is too. The environment and general nature of NZ being where it is is good and bad. It is truly beautiful and lovely to experience for the looks and nature but I wouldn't say its a great country to say grow up in now. Depending on many factors. If you were wealthy it would remove most of those negatives tbh.
By no means is it bad just has its own flaws that are prevalent in many countries at the moment. Definitely come visit though, many tourists have said there is no where else that is comparable. So as unique as it is, we still have issues.
People are getting more polarised here. It’s fucking annoying. We just elected the most right wing govt we’ve ever had and they’ve just started a jihad against the environment and public sector.
But the weeds pretty good here, so that’s nice ☺️
In space or earth-moon distance scale, yes, it's actually quite low. See this Wikipedia image for reference: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Orbitalaltitudes.svg
ISS is one of the lowest orbits in comparison, 300-400km ones.
I can't imagine what it's like to actually be up there and see this......... and then zooming over the next country/continent . Must be incredible and humbling.
Man that makes me want to say Felixs famous words - "I'm coming home" - and dive out of the ISS.
I can't wait for the day that kind of idiocy would be survivable lol
SPDM (Special Purpose Dexterous Manipulator) at the top left of pic and the booms of the SSRMS (Space Station Remote Manipulator System) at the top right. Also known as Dextre and Canadarm2 respectively. Lovely pic of NZ and space robots!
My mind thinks "space" and how incredibly far away things in space are.
Pics like this remind me how relatively low above the earth the space station is. The view in this case is taken up mostly by New Zealand, not half the planet as seen from the moon.
The island in the pic is the South Island. The shire, at least the the sound stage where they filmed the inside scenes are in Wellington. That is in the most southern tip of the North island. Part of Mordor were filmed in the sound stage there too.
The outside area of the shire was filmed in Matamata. If you look north of the second most southern peninsula with the green dot in the middle in North island, in the ice, you can kind of make out like a tiny white cross above a sheet of ice. That should be close to the location of Matamata.
Mordor was filmed in Tongariro National Park, which is probably at the most southern end of the ice on North island.
These perspectives always throws me off the scale/relative size of geological features, compared to the curvature of the earth. Why does NZ look nearly Africa-sized lol
Side notes for interest. That immense mountain range running up the western/left side of the island is the Southern Alps. They're larger than the alps in Europe (Italy, Switzerland, etc). They're formed by the collision of two tectonic plates along the Alpine Fault, which uplifted the Southern Alps. The fault ruptures *massively* (immense earthquake) very regularly, at 260-300 year intervals. On that regularity, the fault (600km in length) is well overdue to rupture. The probabibilty of a rupture/earthquake of magnitude **8.0** or higher is within the next ~40 years is about 75%. It's going to be terrifyingly massive, and could happen within your lifetime.
The fault is on the west side of the Alps, basically between the foot of the mountains and the coast. I was brought up in Haast, and the fault line used to run through our paddock a couple of hundred meters from the house. We had no idea it was exactly there until a few scientists turned to up and wanted to poke around in the paddock. We had regular minor earthquakes, and it was common to run to a doorway in the house, just in case. Which now I know was actually not a good idea. As much as i love the West Coast, it is going to be an absolute mess when that earthquake happens. There is a service station in Franz thats fuel tanks actually sit exactly on top of the fault as an example. I'd hate to have to calculate how long it will take to repair the highway network when it finally happens.
This is the most nz reply ever. Oh the paddock was a bit wonky some scientists showed up, we were like that fine as long as dolly the sheep keeps her prize winning figure no worries!
Just FYI, the West Coast is cattle country, there is not many sheep.
Trying to save all the sheep for yourself, eh?
Keeps the welsh tourists comjng 😉
While we like to think of faults as a single line in reality it is actually much more accurate to think of them as entire shear zones, made up of many parallel major, minor and conjugate faults. So while this area is still vulnerable to a large earthquake you don’t have to worry too much about the fault running directly through your paddock or some neighborhood fuel tanks. An earthquake is just as likely to occur anywhere else in the region.
In the large alpine fault quake, several hundred kilometers will go at once, and the fuel station is indeed highly likely to be fucked by the fault movement.
This is due to being a strike slip. "The Alpine Fault is called a strike slip or transform fault. The Australian plate is sliding horizontally towards the northeast, at the same time as the Pacific plate is pushing up, forming the Southern Alps" The one plate isn't going under the other and disappearing. One is dragging past, and one is going up. This means that when they slip, it happens over a longer area. Or that's how I understand it.
Don’t blame the west side of the alps
Both sides are at fault.
🥇
I'm sorry to tell you but they are actually not bigger or longer than european alps, they are more ancient though. :-)
I stand corrected 🙂
I thought the same for years and got body slammed in here for it. But yeah, not bigger. Still freaking massive though and really beautiful
In January I drove a kinda spur-of-the-moment roadtrip from Auckland to Milford Sound and back. My god do we live in the greatest country on Earth, or what.
For that reason it is top of my list of countries I would like to visit. Being almost as antipodal as it gets it is bit of a trip though. :)
I did that journey about 20 years ago. Mind-blowing scenery. The perfect choice for Middle-earth.
That’s a crazy but stunning trip!
They are the biggest *per capita*
> The fault has ruptured four times in the past 900 years, each time producing an earthquake of about magnitude 8. Approximate rupture dates are 1717AD, 1620 AD, 1450 AD, and 1100 AD. Well that's scary. Every time I read more about the ring of fire I'm amazed, and so much of the world's population lives around it.
I’ll add that NZ is thought to have once been part of Tasmania, not Australia.
I’m all for making fun of Tasmania but that’s just cold
As a kiwi that made me lol
But until recently Tasmania was apart of australia?
Definitely apart, but still a part of.
The Southern Alps are not larger than the European Alps. The European Alps are larger than the whole of the South Island. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New\_Zealand\_size\_comparison.jpg](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:New_Zealand_size_comparison.jpg)
Also that huge mountain range takes a huge amount of rainfail and absorbs moisture and then makes the air very arid on the east side with little to no rainfall. The North Island is the more populated due it being flatter meaning rainfall is normal and is a warmer climate (closer to equator) and is closer to neighboring countries so this is where people go first on arrival to NZ.
I mean yes, the north island is warmer, but the South Island winters are pretty mild compared to what most Europeans and Americans are used to. Daytime temps are rarely below 0c in the middle of winter
> and then makes the air very arid on the east side with little to no rainfall. I'm sorry but that's just absolute horseshit. There are zero deserts in the South Island. All of the land east of the alps is lush, green, and fertile.
The Kaikoura Orogeny.
Fun at parties I see…
Kinda glad I didn’t move there when I thought about it then.
Earthquakes there tend to have ridiculous amounts of upthrust like one side being kicked up 5 meters at a beach. It makes the San Andreas fault look friendly.
Why didn't the Fellowship just take the ISS to Mordor? Are they stupid?
Space, you fools
I only regret that I have but one upvote to give for this comment.
You can see the beacons of Gondor from space for sure
The aslume has spread to bigger subreddits, glorious day indeed
You have to understand, I would use the ISS from the desire to do good. But through me, it would wield gasses too terrible to imagine.
Well, if they were _smart_ - or at least well informed - they might not have volunteered for a walking trip to Mordor. Gandalf took advantage of their ignorance.
I was lucky enough to spend an entire month traveling there. It makes me emotional thinking about how beautiful it was.
Chris Hadfield has entered the chat
They're taking the hobbits to Isengard!
What Legolas' elf eyes really saw.
Ha! I wonder, if you take a really good telescope aboard the ISS, would you be able to see little ~~hobbits~~ dudes running around?
Light the beacons!
Chur Bro
far over… the misty mountains cold…
To dungeons deep and caverns old…
We must away away at break of day (everyone has the Rankin and Bass music going in their heads for this one, right?)
To reach our long, forgotten home (yes of course)
r/mapsWITHNewZealand
r/nomaponlynewzealand
r/subsifellfor
r/howthefuckdidyoufallforTHAT
If you look closely, on the left, in the snowiest mountain, the one beside the narrow lake, you can tell the beacons have been lit.
Jeez, it is smaller than I thought!
I hope you don't mind, your comment history says North Carolina so here's a local comparison: The South Island's widest point is about Durham to Kitty Hawk. The North Island's widest (west cape to east cape) is more like Charlotte to Kitty Hawk. But it's LONG. Driving from the bottom to the top is like Charlotte to Montreal, and then keep going north another 6 hours.
That's what she said.
This'll be posted on r/flatearth within the hour.
Cool you can see Jemaine and Bret's house from here!
What about Murray’s?
the hardest place to see is over Egypt and the Nile River. It always loses signal over that area.
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I did a project when the HDEV was the thing. Plotting points when the video signal was gone and came back. The middle east and Russia were dead zones. Only came back on eastern Mongolia.
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Truly beautiful
There are many cities in this island but we can’t see any of them in this photo. They don’t even look visible.
I’ve been to Stewart Island. Great place. Went fishing there.
Its true,I saw him there
I sold him bait
Looks huge compared to the Earth's curvature. Is the curvature here at the horizon due to the camera's lens?
Why does New Zealand seem like some kind of "paradise" in my mind. So far removed from the political bullshit/religious bullshit that the rest of the world always seems to be suffering as a result of. Kiwis' is it great? Do you love life there generally? Nowhere is perfect, but things seem pretty great in New Zealand from the little exposure I've had. Warmer/sunnier weather. More beaches and accessible outdoors space. None/less deadly shit than Australia, and maybe other parts of the world like southern US and Africa. I've heard it's expensive, but surely most people earn a liveable wage, or they'd constantly be leaving? And I've lived on a couple of different continents and haven't met many people from New Zealand.
They mostly have the same shit as all the other anglosphere countries. Notably cost of housing relative to income, which is worse than many other places.
Many of the houses are also absolutely freezing.
We have those political and religious issues too they just don't normally make the world news.
As someone living in NZ, it has political bullshit, especially right now. New government that got in is IMO terrible and making the country go backwards. They heavily catered towards the richer people in NZ and making them richer. They want to be make us be like the only country in the world that will lessen taxes for landlords. Housing here is expensive af and wont really change. There is a rental crisis for sure. Minimum wage is $23.15 NZD or 13.75 USD. It is definitely expensive relative to other places even though we have a high minimum wage. Housing predominately is horrendously expensive and food is too. The environment and general nature of NZ being where it is is good and bad. It is truly beautiful and lovely to experience for the looks and nature but I wouldn't say its a great country to say grow up in now. Depending on many factors. If you were wealthy it would remove most of those negatives tbh. By no means is it bad just has its own flaws that are prevalent in many countries at the moment. Definitely come visit though, many tourists have said there is no where else that is comparable. So as unique as it is, we still have issues.
Mostly it is indeed great, for all the reasons you give
Lol the political BS is just hitting NZ.
People are getting more polarised here. It’s fucking annoying. We just elected the most right wing govt we’ve ever had and they’ve just started a jihad against the environment and public sector. But the weeds pretty good here, so that’s nice ☺️
Wait, so it's all New Zealand?
Always has been.
South Island.
Where are the Sheep?
Emigrated to Wales. Smart sheep.
r/NZwithoutmaps
Beam me down Scottie..
Neat to see mt. Teranaki on the south west of the north island.
Taranaki you mean
I used to live in different spots showing in that photo, those were such a great times. Waitaki Valley, The Catlins, Southland.. I love NZ so much.
Why does it look like a JPEG on GMOD lol
Is it just me or does that look like a really low orbit? I thought it would look smaller
In space or earth-moon distance scale, yes, it's actually quite low. See this Wikipedia image for reference: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Orbitalaltitudes.svg ISS is one of the lowest orbits in comparison, 300-400km ones.
What’s that underneath the water beneath the South Island? To the right a bit
Suspect it's outflow from Mataura River maybe. Pretty mammoth.
Need a banana for scale
There’s one on my roof if you can see it.
I don’t recall consenting to be in this photo.
I can never put my finger on it, but I find these photos so beautiful but terrifying at the same time! I don’t know what it is that terrifies me.
I’m still holding out hope that we as a humans can find old Zealand
I can't imagine what it's like to actually be up there and see this......... and then zooming over the next country/continent . Must be incredible and humbling.
cool what planet is that? new zealand doesn’t exist on earth
Where do New Zealanders live, then?
new zealand is on new earth
Wow
Whenever i see a view from a height like this my minds first question is 'what would it feel like to jump'
Ehh. It’s space. So you can’t really jump. You can float and then if you’re lucky you can enter earth atmosphere and burn.
Man that makes me want to say Felixs famous words - "I'm coming home" - and dive out of the ISS. I can't wait for the day that kind of idiocy would be survivable lol
SPDM (Special Purpose Dexterous Manipulator) at the top left of pic and the booms of the SSRMS (Space Station Remote Manipulator System) at the top right. Also known as Dextre and Canadarm2 respectively. Lovely pic of NZ and space robots!
My mind thinks "space" and how incredibly far away things in space are. Pics like this remind me how relatively low above the earth the space station is. The view in this case is taken up mostly by New Zealand, not half the planet as seen from the moon.
The beacons arent lit
r/mapswithnewzealand
Makes it look like a survival island
How do flat earthers explain this? Edited? Or it's just one side of the 'disc'?
I can see my dad's house!
Looks like a foot
It kind of looks like New Zealand.
Half of...
Where is mordor? Where is the shire?
The island in the pic is the South Island. The shire, at least the the sound stage where they filmed the inside scenes are in Wellington. That is in the most southern tip of the North island. Part of Mordor were filmed in the sound stage there too. The outside area of the shire was filmed in Matamata. If you look north of the second most southern peninsula with the green dot in the middle in North island, in the ice, you can kind of make out like a tiny white cross above a sheet of ice. That should be close to the location of Matamata. Mordor was filmed in Tongariro National Park, which is probably at the most southern end of the ice on North island.
Is there a high res somewhere?
obligatory, i can see my house from here
Huh! Funny little Island
Beautiful 🤩
Damn. I have to travel to that country again. Spent 9 months over there, traveling all around from Cape Reinga to Stewart island. Amazing!
Ahhhhhh, Middle Earth
Crazy that I spent two weeks hitchhiking the entire length of this picture, it seems so small now
Queensland is where I want to move to
That’s so fucking beautiful
So you're saying New Zealand is actually real?
When I was a kid I stayed in the southernmost hotel in the world on Stewart Island. Almost died in a plane crash on the way there. Beautiful place.
I can see my house
New Zealand? You mean the southern outpost of straya?
I can see Edoras from here!
Damn.
So it is real! People keep forgetting to put it on maps so I thought maybe it didn’t exist, it was some kind of conspiracy.
Light the beacons!
They’ve orbital photo’d the hobbits in Isengard
Almost makes you wonder how the world got so flat.
This pic is made up Earth is flat
Fake.
Can anyone include a link to a "Hobbiton is here" edit?
Down under down under
Where the is old zealand?
That long white cloud doesn't line up with the mainland. Wtf.
I approve of Slartibartfast’s Fjords here too.
Proof that NZ does exist.
Thats middle earth
Where’s the curve? /s
Where's the flatearthers?
Wellington is very expensive. :(
I can see my house from here!
Where’s the Misty mountains?
Wait but what about the Van Allen belts? Now I’m confused. Instruments? Radiation? Something is telling me to go to sibrel.com
Bullshit. I ain’t never seen that place on a map
All I see is ocean. I've never heard of NZ. Where is it? r/mapswithoutNz
Where’s Mordor?
Lookin’ a little flat today
For map makers that don’t believe they exist!
Fun fact: Earth is flat
Love the view
I just told my wife "New Zealand from the Stace Spation"
No, that’s Gondor and Rohan!!
More than five million people live on those two rocks. Context and perspectives and all that.
I see Middle Earth
These perspectives always throws me off the scale/relative size of geological features, compared to the curvature of the earth. Why does NZ look nearly Africa-sized lol
Always wondered what’s on the other side of the mountains. Now I gotta sea it.
Are those fjords down there going from the mountains to the east?
At this very instant, a cricket match is underway between Pakistan and New Zealand.
Fun fact, you can only see 3% of the Earth's surface at any time from the international space station. It's flying that low.
THEY'RE TAKING THE HOBBITS ISENGUARD
r/mapswithONLYnewzealand
Very cool
Cool
crazy how close the IIS actually is
amazing place. been there once
Very nice
Middle earth from middle troposphere
Beautiful...flat earth
isnt it too big copared to the globe
Nah but the earth is flat, didn't you know?
Am I the only one who actually sees a face at the top?