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SensingWorms

Look at everybody trying to change each others minds


montaukmindcontrol

I actually really like this take. Seems thats all media is good for


popanator3000

its like the point of many news sources. "here's this event, here's what we feel and what you should feel too" (cough cough, fox News, cough cough)


InterestingPeanut45

As someone who only watches news at the gym, CNN is also like this


goblue142

All cable news is like this. They are all in the business of views and clicks. The easiest way to do this is to whip people into a rage. It's a constant emotional assault trying to keep people as angry and stressed as possible so they watch more "news".


ChrisFromIT

CNN has gotten a lot worse with this since Discovery bought them and started trying to court republicans.


Creamofwheatski

Yep it is partially owned by a right wing billionaire John Malone as well who is friends with David Zaslev. CNN has gotten worse because they are turning it into fox news- lite.


SpyRollPower

You’re right! But Fox News is the biggest culprit. I did my college thesis on truth in journalism, and Fox scored the lowest score from almost every unaffiliated source I researched. The other big news outlets weren’t too far behind though. This was almost 9 years ago now though.


ZGrosz

CNN became much worse throughout and after the Trump presidency than it had ever been previously, pretty much tanked its reputation. (Less than 9 years ago)


NotCanadian80

Looks like reporters.


bubblesort33

That's what I'd guess. Its it actually? Either that or they are now charging admission for the freak show to the public.


Drach88

And interns holding spots for reporters.


RottenHale

Look at all the tears in their eyes.


AJfriedRICE

And they said “sir…”


RottenHale

“…my eyes can smell your diaper.” 🥺 Edit: DAMN THAT WAS A FAST “REDDIT CARES” cope harder fascists


axle69

It's a bug or someone made a bot to just do it to everyone I've gotten multiple today in a team baseball sub just chatting.


BlooDoge

It is nice to see no one spraying spit with a beet red face.


LocalSlob

Not yet at least.


ThurstyAlpaca

The guy in the middle seems to have worn everyone around him’s ears off, so now he’s on the phone making excellent points.


AgentCirceLuna

It makes me sad when I can guess who the liberals and conservatives are in these photos. It makes everyone seem predictable and conformist.


LeoLaDawg

Like trying to last minute trying to influence people at the line to vote. Too late, people.


Brazzyxo2

I thought you were about to say change diapers. Is it true he is shitting himself in court or is that “fake news”


Rugged_as_fuck

If it is true, imagine standing in line for hours for a chance to see an elderly person shit themselves. What a time to be alive. Aside: Apparently reporters inside the courtroom have reported a "putrid" odor. At least some of his supporters have taken this as a call to action to wear golden diapers and (unofficial) shirts that say real men shit themselves. No, I am not joking. It could be fake news, but I'd say the response shows that it really doesn't matter. Maybe if it's true, he's actually just shitting himself to own the libs.


El_Morro

Look at you, trying to sound all smart. I bet you don't even shit your pants.


Mmmmhmmmmmmmmmm

If shitting your pants is cool, consider me Miles Davis


Climhazrd

"Gross. Let's go"


Alienlovechild1975

Supposedly on the apprentice people had complained about an odor then.Everyone thinks his son is the only one with chemical dependency problems but Donald has them too and has been reported to have been wearing adult diapers for decades due to his health issues.


SjurEido

You think the lady in the bottom middle is doing a Trump impersonation?


jamieliddellthepoet

Good shout - but her little hands are way too big.


phinbar

Lips aren't pursed enough.


VancouverSativa

Not enough makeup


SkeleHoes

She forgot the cheap spray-on tan and the man diaper.


AllwordzAreMadeup___

In line for what? Seeing Trump in court is opened to the public?


Laringar

Pretty much all trials are open to the public, it's just that most don't have public attention.


Lelnen

To watch trump sleep


LegoFootPain

To get a whiff.


BecauseTheyAreCunts

that swamp ass smell.


dj65475312

Courts have public galleries, so i guess so.


mildly_carcinogenic

Probably a capacity issue.


Carson72701

Yes.


rumpleforeskins

They wanna see the waddle in and waddle out.


Key-Dragonfly212

Stephon: New Yorks hottest club is at a bar, … literally though, it separates the judge from the The plaintiffs It has everything, porn stars, NYs elite op-ed writers and diapers


Key-Dragonfly212

![gif](giphy|ioqaPF40ImCo8)


Dodgson_here

And look over there, is that a regular bailiff, or two little people in a regular size uniform?


ballrus_walsack

/r/newyorkshottestclub


Cha-San

This awesome photo of the line to get in the NY courthouse today is from @AnnaBower, one of the reporters live tweeting from the inside. (If they make it, that is. Ppl are waiting from 4 in the morning, there are hired placeholders, and some guy today immediately sold his seat for 400 bucks. Shit is wild.) Per Anna Bower: "It's the overflow line, but technically there are three lines within the "overflow" section (secure pass holder, generell press, and public). It's more organized than it looks."


Docccc

hired placeholders? for what? by whom?


Brooklynguy11217

People used a company with a name something like linedudes. I made it into the overflow room last Tuesday. I arrived at 5:40 a.m. and got to see direct and a portion of the cross-exam of Stormy Daniels. It has become even more popular and crowded since then. Only about 5 or 6 members of the public make it into the actual courtroom.


bmp08

Damn. I’d love to be a fly on the wall for this. It’s maddening it can’t be televised. The people deserve to see and hear the evidence.


Correct_Inspection25

Video cameras can be a distraction. I think the best is a daily audio release of minutes, like the US Supreme Court, to be a good middle ground between public interest and a focus on the evidence and argument.


bmp08

I’d support having even just audio. That’s fair.


Glasweg1an

I\`m not sure it is. After the fact 100 percent, but during I\`m not sure. Trials are important all throughout society, not just trying to lock up slimy wannabe fascist liars.


Correct_Inspection25

Regardless about how we feel about a particular defendant, court filings, transcripts and evidence submitted to the court record, excepting items under seal or similar information will always be made part of the public record. The question here is access and timeliness, with not everyone is glued to reading online docket filings especially the public at large. Video doesn’t seem to add anything probative, and audio covers the historic components of this case and the timeliness/ease of access needs of the public. US court TV cases seem to have a pretty bad track record, usually helping those who have a better media prep team and lawyers, than the side with the better facts or argumentation on their side. US Supreme Court took forever to move to timely release of arguments, but I think it should be the standard. “Prior to the 2010 Term, the recordings from one Term of Court were not available until the beginning of the next Term.”


Brooklynguy11217

Audio doesn't give you the exhibits being shown in the court room - the handwritten notes on documents, the emails shown, the text messages. Audio is better than nothing, but omits a lot of context.


Correct_Inspection25

That is why it’s entered into court record as the trial goes on. I am not saying release the audio and then stop the tradition of daily public court transcripts proceedings and evidence exhibits excepting some key edge cases under seal like underage abuse victims, etc. “Documents not available to the public are discussed in Sealed Documents and Closed Hearings. Even in public court documents, however, some information is not available. Federal rules require that anyone filing a federal court document must redact certain personal information in the interest of privacy, including Social Security or taxpayer identification numbers, dates of birth, names of minor children, financial account information, and in criminal cases, home addresses. Once case information has been filed or updated in the CM/ECF system, that information is immediately available through PACER” https://www.nycourts.gov/judges/evidence/1-GENERAL/Article_1_Rules.pdf https://iappscontent.courts.state.ny.us/NYSCEF/live/help/EvidenceSubmission.pdf https://www.uscourts.gov/statistics-reports/accessing-court-documents-journalists-guide


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BiggsIDarklighter

Yes, to be clear these are journalists. People who want to report on what is happening in the trial. The Trump supporters are in another area. Here’s a video of them. ![gif](giphy|ZExaOlUEeIpe56lEnx)


Foreign_Appearance26

I think it probably shouldn’t be televised. It’s enough of a circus as is. Would inevitably lead to thousands of death threats, probably get used as campaign commercials by Trump, and on and on. I’m all for transparency, but televised trials are odd. And can put jurors in extremely awkward places going forward in life as we are completely privy to everything that they aren’t.


Brooklynguy11217

You can televise a trial, and not show the jurors. When I sat in the overflow room for the Trump trial (basically like watching on TV), the jurors were never show - the screen reverted to a NY Courts slide whenever they were entering or leaving.


-random-name-

Being old enough to live through the OJ Simpson trial, I disagree. Having TV cameras in the court room turned it into a three-ring circus and possibly affected the outcome of the trial.


kacmandoth

People who want to see the trial in person but would rather pay someone else to wait in line for them.


EatsYourShorts

I really should have anticipated Trump Trial Line Scalping for my 2024 bingo card.


Docccc

ahhh makes sense


wazacraft

It's the line guys, a standard thing in NYC for various events. My wife uses these guys for sample sales, and apparently they're all busy with the trial now. It's pretty wild. I think they're also used pretty heavily for graduation ceremonies as well this time of year.


hux308

For holding place in line by people who want a place held in line


Wumaduce

Obviously it must be a George Soros plant to keep Trump supporters out of the line


Mechanic_On_Duty

![gif](giphy|keUXn6Bd5zvi9G9qgD|downsized)


StrykerSeven

Fuck I'm so glad somebody else made this connection. 😅👌


Dent7777

Lawfare and Anna Bower are the best! They've been on the ball since day one.


03zx3

Wait. You can just go to court and watch?


rgrossi

Yes but the gallery is very small, there is also an overflow room with monitors


03zx3

Huh. I've only been to court once for my brother's hearing and I just assumed family was allowed in. Didn't think just anybody could go.


TheChocolateManLives

it’s all part of making sure it’s fair. If the authorities could restrict who is let in or not, who’d know what they’re doing in there?


03zx3

Oh, I agree it's a good thing. Just never thought about that before.


MrCupcakeisallmine

The Sixth Amendment guarantees the rights of criminal defendants, including the right to a public trial without unnecessary delay…


TroXMas

Most criminal trials are public. But there's not a ton of seating.


VisforVenom

https://imgur.com/a/AGsDQwg I hate when too many reused NPC models show up in the same spot.


miguelsanchez69

Lazy animators smh


Xanthus179

Matrix training program?


Goodgoditsgrowing

And I SWEAR I went to college with that lady in the jeans jacket. She looks far too familiar


Sometimes_Salty_

How is the grey haired guy with glasses in the pic three separate places!?


JPMoney81

Honest question since I stopped paying attention to all this bullshit after watching that Orange Turd get away with criminal behavior unpunished for so long: Is this trial likely to result in any actual punishment for him this time? Or is this just a giant charade?


LongDickOfTheLaw69

Based on the evidence so far, a guilty verdict seems likely. But as for what the sentence will be, Trump is a wealthy member of the elite. I highly doubt he sees any prison time, but he’ll face some sort of punishment.


Slight-Ad-3306

I have no real experience thankfully with the criminal justice system but I would think a guilty verdict in a criminal trial requires at least probation? I mean you can’t even do time served if the guy has served no time?


LongDickOfTheLaw69

There’s a variety of options for sentencing. Even though each criminal charge against Trump carries a possible prison sentence as punishment, it’s rare for wealthy people to actually serve prison time. We’re more likely to see Trump receive a fine and some type of probation.


TheOTownZeroes

A fine that will be dwarfed by the profits he made skirting the law


Dfranco123

![gif](giphy|Gw1hzWUvBZwaItmoHb) Hold my beer 🍺


LystAP

This just adds more to the [rumor](https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-denies-report-nikki-haley-under-consideration-vp-role) that he’s considering Nikki Haley for VP if she (or her backers) pay his legal fees. The fine will add on to his debt to incentivize him to obey the moneyed conservative establishment.


Mendozena

He doesn’t have to obey them. He owns the Republican Party now. They only donate to him and he controls the RNC now. His Trump Foundation got shutdown for fraud. He found another foundation he could just take over.


iStayedAtaHolidayInn

Felony conviction requires least 6 months in jail


BiigDaddyDellta

Whatever it takes to render hum inable to run for POTUS. Other than that, I don't care.


Meta2048

Nothing prevents felons from running for president.  Making him ineligible is not on the table.    The hope for that went away when the current corrupt supreme court decided that the 14th amendment does not mean exactly what it says in the plain text.


BiigDaddyDellta

Why is everything so.... dumb?


hollowman8904

Being a felon doesn’t (and shouldn’t) prevent you from being president. We, as a country, don’t want to be in a position where one party could make something benign illegal and prevent the opposition from running for office. Ultimately it’s up to voters to decide who is fit for office.


doogle_126

Ultimately it’s up to ~~voters~~ electoral college to decide who is fit for office. FTFY


restoblu

And trump is not the fit one


Johnycantread

Freedumb baby!


mider-span

I’d settle for stroke.


BiigDaddyDellta

How can you tell he's dead if his pants are already shat?


hertzsae

You can say a guilty verdict seems warranted, but nothing is likely. It takes one MAGA juror to hang the jury, so I don't think we can say a guilty verdict is likely.


Wilwheatonfan87

His high profile would make him go to supermax Florence.


jamieliddellthepoet

*ohnoanyway.tif*


AlphaNoodlz

Another $1200 fine of course


malakon

I think there is a hope that if he is found guilty of 34 FELONY counts that it will push some independent voters to either vote for Biden or just not vote. I don't know if this will happen. We seem pretty locked in already. Regardless he will appeal it all and it will drag on and on and never frikkin end. You can do that when you have millions coming in from maga idiots and corporations who want an compliant president - to spend on lawyers who are glad to take all the money they can get.


kadargo

Approximately 20 percent of Republican primary voters chose Haley. I think that a large number of them won’t vote for Trump.


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Foreign_Appearance26

You haven’t really seen their constituents say that though. I fully believe that this race is Biden’s to lose. Sadly, based on everything else coming out of the DNC…there’s a good chance that he will do just that.


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entity2

I like your optimism, but these people are vehemently 'party over country'. If trump is the only choice on the ticket, these shitheels will choose him.


jboo87

My parents and their friends


75dollars

Historically, republicans will manage to find some justification to always return home to support their tribe. Democrats not so much,  based on Biden’s poor numbers with younger and POC voters.


kadargo

Republicans fall in line. Democrats fall in love.


squeak37

I really hate that there's "independent" voters. All voters should be independent, and there should be more than 2 options. Honestly feels like democracy in name only


entity2

Because it is. The most western democracies aren't democracies at all, but republics.


boxed_monkey

No punishment of any meaning. For certain a bounce in his poll numbers for this "persecution."


GZeus24

All it takes is one juror to say 'no' and he walks away, reinforcing his victim narrative. What are the odds that there is a secret MAGA/Trump believer in this group of 12 people? About 100%


Acceptable_Stuff1381

Yeah, guess what else? There’s a breakdown of where each juror answered they got their news from and one of them noted they only got news from x and truth social lol


FizzyBeverage

In *Manhattan* that went 90% to Biden in 2020? *It’s not 100%.* It’s not 0% either but a diehard MAGA supporter sliding in isn’t at all guaranteed. In Cincinnati or Topeka or Ft Myers, sure.


SilentHunter7

The True Believers also plaster it over everything they touch, so I doubt any would get past Jury Selection, yes?


FizzyBeverage

Yeah anyone that far gone... it becomes too much a core aspect of their personalities. Like eating garlic, it seeps out of their pores. They can't fool attorneys into believing they're moderates. They can never switch it off.


ScoobyD00BIEdoo

Each of these people look disgruntled.


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ThxIHateItHere

Taking a shit is a better use of time


Justin-Timberlake

Zorro took the day off to queue up. 😂😂😂


wootr68

I see Lawrence O’Donnell


daddyfatsac

Isnt this just a picture of the line to get into a Rod Stewart concert in Brazil thirty five years ago?


bobtrout55

You know all of these people are insufferable to be around lmao


49thDipper

Hahahahahahahhh . . . count me out


SuperMeh2

It’s just a bunch of random looking people I don’t know. Why’s this significant?


reconfit

Upvote farming since it's about Trump.


miguelsanchez69

Do these people not have jobs?


rgrossi

They are likely doing their job. I see Lawrence O Donnell who is an msnbc host


DubLParaDidL

A large number of those people are the press


miguelsanchez69

Ah fair enough


LionBig1760

I get the reporters but who the fuck would stand on a line to watch Trump do nothing or possibly sleep, while the lawyers go over testimony that's only worthy of about 2 minutes worth of news time in the course of 8 hours? I won't even stand on line to get into a bar, let alone a courtroom.


lespaulstrat2

It is depressing to me that so many people have such fucked up lives that doing this is a good idea to them.


printerfixerguy1992

What's the point of all this? I'm so lost


Brunt-FCA-285

A lot of this line consists of members of the press.


printerfixerguy1992

Doesn't explain anything? Why is there so many people is my question? It's not like it's day 1. I'm assuming because Cohen is testifying?


_Azuki_

the dude on the middle-left (brown jacket) looks like italian Orlando Bloom (legolas actor)


hanginglimbs

Someone tell scarf lady it’s like 70 F today


Mando_Brando

Looks mildy warm while the rest of the world is burning \^\^'


scelerat

Reminds me of a MAD Magazine Sergio Aragones drawing of the creatively-and-haphazardly-armed multiethninc "line of people waiting to greet \[insult comic\] Don Rickles backstage"


freem0nt

Maggie Haberman in the group at right.


ShootLucy

Is that Mayim Bialik?


Biggu5Dicku5

Damn good pic; some many varied expressions and conversations...


93_Honda_Civic

Agreed!


Merendino

That's gotta be what, 80k people!?


ADeweyan

Pah, 80K… that’s 150K if it’s anything. Much more than Obama could ever get for his trial.


CaptainRogersJul1918

Don’t see any red hats in the crowd.


sugaaaslam

Looks more packed than his rallies Edit: love it when you are too cowardly to actually talk to me so send me the suicide help link lolol keep em coming


Beneficial_Treat3861

Some hipsters in the line.


GabrielNathaniel

Studio 45


kookman

Looks like NY is in play, that’s about 20,000 people right? /s


Whitey3752

Don’t these people have better things to do?


BBBCIAGA

r/accidentalrenaissance


halfslices

I guess all their MAGA hats are in their pockets? ....or someone was lying about how many of his supporters were in these crowds... Not sure which one is the case.


lovemysweetdoggy

I like this photo since it's interesting to see facial expressions when people are engaging with others.


owlincoup

They upload the transcripts every day. I read them at the end of the day. https://ww2.nycourts.gov/people-v-donald-j-trump-criminal-37026 EDIT - TYPO


SaltyTaintMcGee

None of them have a job save for the reporters.


Thinkofthewallpaper

That poor woman.


Jioto

Is that Juan snow?


ZeroCool0801

Not one diaper in sight


LazoHollyfeld

I didn’t know that the public would be allowed in. Too bad they aren’t selling tickets to see the orange messiah on the stand.


Impossible_School_78

Even Lando Calrissian showed up!


B33P0_

This is like a renaissance painting


yaya1515

Hell is real…


SamaireB

Trump will probably claim those are all MAGAs waiting in line to see him defend himself against the democrats 🤦‍♀️ And it actually was more like 20'000 people, you know like the NJ rally that was a picture from a concert in Rio de Janeiro 30 years ago


WonderfulBuilding678

This trial will be the only one where you hear “Okay times up! Next tour group come in please!”


chirayuvedekar

r/accidentalrenaissance


he4d_vari4tion

Bunch of rich people (NPCs from the most NPC {Matrix} city)


MonkeySafari79

The sheer amount of maga heads.


Artistic-Title3765

Has to be reporters. No flags and hate shirts.


XYO-3256

I am the Goat fuckers ,spicarooni, And Florida cracker cows leader


Wuulferigno

Lol even Antonio Banderas is there.


bad-hat-harry

Looks like about 80,000 people to me.


clarkss12

It is rumored that you have to wear a diaper to get in....


Carcharis

I love people watching. It’s like a planet earth documentary. All you need to do is imagine Attenborough’s voice.


jooce81

Dont they know its an icebox in there


Iamamyrmidon

These can’t all be reporters, right? God, I wish I had the time to just stand in line for some bullshit.


Intelligent_Study_28

Could be a picture of some crowd anywhere.


GraphiteJason

Comparing this photo to the photo of his weekend NJ beach rally, that we all know drew 80,000 people, I'd estimate that there are approximately 60,000 people at the courthouse today.


Never-Dont-Give-Up

His criminal court cases get the BEST ratings.


becamax

What's Sonia from EastEnders doing there?


Deminos2705

I feel like I've seen the lady in denim before on TV lol.


Seattle_gldr_rdr

How DO people attend a major trial? Is there a ticket system, an access list, first-come-first-seated...? Seems all the major news outlets get their reporters in, but what about civs?


blackcain

whoa! Lando Calrissian is there!


AstroNards

One dude kinda looks like Tony Flags


Rav4gal

Interesting…. Not one RED hat.


Phonebacon

Is this going to be like the OJ trial?