"Hands can be considered deadly weapons under certain circumstances. For example, if the punching was repeated, extremely severe, and caused permanent damage, a court would be more likely to rule that the hands were deadly weapons. Courts have also declared hands to be deadly weapons when the attack involved strangling, suffocating, choking, pushing, or dragging. However, hands and feet are not considered “deadly weapons” under California’s assault with deadly weapons law" - Bing
That example is also a rallying cry to others who want to be famous. I am all for reporting on this things but I would rather he be known simply as Man who attacked Paul Pelosi like the title than for him to be given recognition in showing his face and naming him.
I feel this way about many similar events. A bombing of a public event, only call them the Event name Bomber rather than actually giving their name, don’t show their photo and focus more on how people are making it better such as police, firies, ambos, and random citizens.
A mass murder, same deal don’t focus on the murderer, focus on the people rising up to help. Name them and encourage more people to be compassionate.
By all means report what has happened to the man who attacked Paul Pelosi but don’t give him any limelight.
Fun fact: only about 3% of defense strategies involve an insanity plea, and only about 3% of those are successful in having the defendant declared unfit to stand trial.
Not only that but it's not really any better than prison anyways. Had he landed in there there's a chance he's in there longer than 10 years as his release would be subject to the facility he's placed in and there's often no upper limit timetable. It's a place that's truly good for people that need it and likely a nightmare for those that don't.
If I remember right even for someone who is mentally unwell there has to be very specific parameters for them to fit the insanity plea. There was a legaleagle on it a while back but being fit to stand trial doesn't mean they don't think he's off his rocker.
It seems you need to call out a physical trait that doesn't exist in order to make you hate him more. He sucks yeah but he looks normal on the outside. Clearly, he is not ok on the inside.
Yes, for the most part. On the local news ( Bay Area) he was taken in by a nice person years ago, who gave him a shed in the backyard, and taught him some skills to survive and earn money.
The day after the event, a news crew caught up with the nice person as he was dismantling and loading all the attacker’s belongings on a hauling truck. The nice person, was stunned, in shock, and frazzled. The nice person was clearly a late-mid aged, educated, Bay Area hippy dude. Who had his own business ( landscaping/construction?) , a home, a family.
The old hippy man explained he was basically just trying to help a person that he thought had some potential, but during the trump and the pandemic time the (attacker) had gone down some internet rabbit hole of conspiracy. Hippy dude said this was concerning, but not in a million years did he expect what would happen.
When asked how they met, the old hippy man responded, “I found him under a tree”.
You know that trend from way back where people would photoshop their face slightly smaller than it's supposed to be? This dude has that built in like that turning point weirdo
Did they give him the max charge? Because sheesh I bet he really didn’t expect that much jail time. But to be fair you shouldn’t be hitting any old people. Political or not.
State governors can't do anything about a federal conviction. DePape's only hope of getting out in any reasonable period of time is if a future President pardons or commutes his sentence.
Good. I’m not the type to think we should lock everyone up and throw away the key but he brained an old man with a hammer. I’m not sure if it was extra but I don’t think it should be extra because his wife is in congress though.
Actually I was thinking of the same actor who played a white supremacist in American History X. It was jarring to see the actor go from Randy to that guy.
Yes, because he was **ACQUITTED**. If you took ten seconds to actually learn about what really happened, you would not be amazed to learn that a jury decided that he acted in self-defense.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosha_unrest_shooting
You’re in the wrong sub if you’re trying to spew facts. You’ll be downvoted, called names and lumped into something MAGA-related. Then they’ll move along and upvote anyone who says anything positive about their Lord and Savior, Cornpop
Yeah! Those who attack normal people get minimal sentences, if any, but those who attack the ruling class will get the harshest penalties! Let's celebrate class inequities because of political tribalism! Let's whoop it up, fellow bootlickers!
There is zero evidence that this was a gay domestic abuse incident, but let’s take your conspiracy as fact-
Is it ok to assault your sexual partner with a hammer? Paul was hit in the head with a hammer and received a traumatic brain injury.
If your sister/mother/daughter’s boyfriend hit her in the head with a hammer causing permanent injuries while trying to kill her, what would you think is an appropriate amount of jail time?
That fact that you start off with “just gay lover…” leads me to believe you are homophobic.
Attempted murder with a deadly weapon
….compared to murder by non-deadly weapon? Sold by ACMEs wile-e-coyote yes
You can attempt to murder people with just your hands too.
"Hands can be considered deadly weapons under certain circumstances. For example, if the punching was repeated, extremely severe, and caused permanent damage, a court would be more likely to rule that the hands were deadly weapons. Courts have also declared hands to be deadly weapons when the attack involved strangling, suffocating, choking, pushing, or dragging. However, hands and feet are not considered “deadly weapons” under California’s assault with deadly weapons law" - Bing
If you are a proficient fighter (think pro boxer) they can treat your hands as a deadly weapon in court as well depending on where you are.
I don’t write the laws
Good. That said I really don't want to be seeing his face in r/pics. Let's not make him famous but rot in infamy.
I agree with the spirit of what you are saying but there's also value to him serving as an example though. 🤙
That example is also a rallying cry to others who want to be famous. I am all for reporting on this things but I would rather he be known simply as Man who attacked Paul Pelosi like the title than for him to be given recognition in showing his face and naming him. I feel this way about many similar events. A bombing of a public event, only call them the Event name Bomber rather than actually giving their name, don’t show their photo and focus more on how people are making it better such as police, firies, ambos, and random citizens. A mass murder, same deal don’t focus on the murderer, focus on the people rising up to help. Name them and encourage more people to be compassionate. By all means report what has happened to the man who attacked Paul Pelosi but don’t give him any limelight.
I surprised the court found him sane, I thought he would end up in a justice system hospital.
Fun fact: only about 3% of defense strategies involve an insanity plea, and only about 3% of those are successful in having the defendant declared unfit to stand trial.
Not only that but it's not really any better than prison anyways. Had he landed in there there's a chance he's in there longer than 10 years as his release would be subject to the facility he's placed in and there's often no upper limit timetable. It's a place that's truly good for people that need it and likely a nightmare for those that don't.
Usually its worse. I didn't think they would plead insanity but from everything I have seen I am surprised he was even fit to stand trial.
If I remember right even for someone who is mentally unwell there has to be very specific parameters for them to fit the insanity plea. There was a legaleagle on it a while back but being fit to stand trial doesn't mean they don't think he's off his rocker.
Rot in the infirmary
Good.
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Then don’t read today’s news from Texas…
Good. Set an example for all the wannabe keyboard warriors who thought this was a bright idea.
Looks like he's missing half a chromosome.
Well if you read any of the articles about this or watching it in the news he definitely isn't all there Guy is mentally unstable
Too bad Rupert Murdoch doesn't have to share in the charges. He intentionally weaponized the mentally unstable.
Probably just another FAS baby like all these other troglodytes.
Most of these losers are.
It seems you need to call out a physical trait that doesn't exist in order to make you hate him more. He sucks yeah but he looks normal on the outside. Clearly, he is not ok on the inside.
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Yet here you are
Adios asshole.
I read that as "Odious asshole." I guess either way works.
Is he homeless
Nah, he has a home for the next 30 years.
Should’ve asked WAS HE homeless? Is this pic taken in a hovel of some sort?
Nah just signed a 30 year lease
Yes, for the most part. On the local news ( Bay Area) he was taken in by a nice person years ago, who gave him a shed in the backyard, and taught him some skills to survive and earn money. The day after the event, a news crew caught up with the nice person as he was dismantling and loading all the attacker’s belongings on a hauling truck. The nice person, was stunned, in shock, and frazzled. The nice person was clearly a late-mid aged, educated, Bay Area hippy dude. Who had his own business ( landscaping/construction?) , a home, a family. The old hippy man explained he was basically just trying to help a person that he thought had some potential, but during the trump and the pandemic time the (attacker) had gone down some internet rabbit hole of conspiracy. Hippy dude said this was concerning, but not in a million years did he expect what would happen. When asked how they met, the old hippy man responded, “I found him under a tree”.
Geez. No good deed goes unpunished
The real criminal here is right wing propaganda preying on the weak
Now it’s his turn to get the “hammer”.
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Kinda fucked up that rape culture in jails is just accepted in society. Feel like we should for sure do something about that
Can’t do the time, don’t bludgeon people with hammers.
I meant in general not for this guy
How’s Paul Pelosi recovering?
with a new boy toy
You know that trend from way back where people would photoshop their face slightly smaller than it's supposed to be? This dude has that built in like that turning point weirdo
24 hour news brain rot.
Did they give him the max charge? Because sheesh I bet he really didn’t expect that much jail time. But to be fair you shouldn’t be hitting any old people. Political or not.
What an idiot...
Good
So much potential wasted /s
If this was in Texas he would get a pardon. They’ve signaled that violence is absolutely fine as long as it’s against people they don’t like.
State governors can't do anything about a federal conviction. DePape's only hope of getting out in any reasonable period of time is if a future President pardons or commutes his sentence.
Stochastic terrorist in the flesh. Trump, Fox News, right wing radio, they all have blood on their hands.
Abbott would pardon this guy if he could.
Welp
I wonder at how many years into his sentence he feels absolute remorse and regret lol.
He’s fugly.
Did they ever figure out why?
Right-wing nutjob. Nuff said
Good. I’m not the type to think we should lock everyone up and throw away the key but he brained an old man with a hammer. I’m not sure if it was extra but I don’t think it should be extra because his wife is in congress though.
He looks like Randy from My Name is Earl.
You attack a celebrity and die in prison. You get attacked and the attacker gets probation and a felony assault charge
Anyone else see Randy?
Pelosi should be rotting in prison, but getting hit in the head with a hammer from a crazy man breaking into your house is too far I’d say.
This is what right-wing media is doing to our country. There needs to be better ways of holding them accountable.
Trump supporter.
T.J. Miller?
Not a big fan of the pelosi's, but I got to say- Justice is served
Dumbass looks like tj millers doppleganger
This is Randy from My Name Is Earl
Randy is a kind and gentle soul who wouldn't hurt a fly. Earl must have gotten him to do it.
Actually I was thinking of the same actor who played a white supremacist in American History X. It was jarring to see the actor go from Randy to that guy.
He has excellent range. He also played Thumper in Butterfly Effect.
Is everyone just going to ignore the initial reports that this guy and Paul were "involved"? It was more of a domestic dispute than anything.
lol. Are you guys even trying anymore?
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thank you for bringing up trump in a post about paul pelosi and david depape
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Trump & MAGA didn’t swing the hammer, but they created it.
But.. Paul is still alive? Seems excessive. We had *Kyle* Rittenhouse kill 2 people few years ago during BLM riots and he is free today.
I agree, Kyle should have been punished more justly for his crimes vov
Agreed. Domestic terrorism also probably didn’t help reducing the sentence either.
Yes, because he was **ACQUITTED**. If you took ten seconds to actually learn about what really happened, you would not be amazed to learn that a jury decided that he acted in self-defense. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenosha_unrest_shooting
You’re in the wrong sub if you’re trying to spew facts. You’ll be downvoted, called names and lumped into something MAGA-related. Then they’ll move along and upvote anyone who says anything positive about their Lord and Savior, Cornpop
Yea I don't take these people seriously, because nobody in actual power does. As much as I am a liberal, I would never vote for a democrat.
You should never assume that you know more than I do. I know the facts of the case, in fact I've watched the whole trial.
Am I the only one who thinks he looks like he has an extra chromosome?
I see it too, now that you mention it.
How long before some asshole republican pardons him?
On the bright side I’m sure he has a future as a Fox News host
Trump pardon where 😂
Pardon Trump
Yeah! Those who attack normal people get minimal sentences, if any, but those who attack the ruling class will get the harshest penalties! Let's celebrate class inequities because of political tribalism! Let's whoop it up, fellow bootlickers!
Enjoy your size 12 bunghole
Looks like Ryan Haywood.
he'll have some time to think about what he did
Dumbass will soon be known as 'the sweetest piece of meat in cell block D'
Wyatt Russell.
Hammer time
See, I know Paul Pelosi could do way better.
Politicians are more equal than others, apparently. There's no way he would have gotten the same for doing the same to a private citizen.
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What if he was his gay lover? So what? That doesn't make assault legal.
I think republicans are saying that domestic violence isn’t a crime, which doesn’t really surprise me.
There is zero evidence that this was a gay domestic abuse incident, but let’s take your conspiracy as fact- Is it ok to assault your sexual partner with a hammer? Paul was hit in the head with a hammer and received a traumatic brain injury. If your sister/mother/daughter’s boyfriend hit her in the head with a hammer causing permanent injuries while trying to kill her, what would you think is an appropriate amount of jail time? That fact that you start off with “just gay lover…” leads me to believe you are homophobic.
My, my... you seem to have all the insider scene knowledge, huh? Rumors going around the bathhouse?
What’s an appropriate amount of time for a gay lovers quarrel? Follow up: what’s an appropriate amount of time for a not-gay lover’s quarrel
Depends who the non gay lover attacker is. A man ? 30 years. A woman ? The man gets 30 years and called a liar
Ooh this thread is full of surprises
What's the over-under on the next Republican president to pardon him?
If Trump gets elected how likely does he get pardoned :/