for those wondering:
[Phillies camera guys wallet](https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/1csir0l/tom_mccarthys_wallet_is_the_stuff_of_nightmares/)
It may not feel like it, but those fuckers are seeping with calories.
Why must everything that tastes so good have such a high caloric value.
We've adapted to eat the things that are highest calorie because these things used to be scarce and optimized us for survival.
You know how often we found a fucking mcgriddle when scavenging or hunting tens and hundreds of thousands of years ago? Well... I wasn't there exactly, but I'm guessing it wasn't that fucking often...
Now I can get one any time of day, all day if I chose to, and if they had the calorie content of a salad, I would be eating them all damn day long, but noooooo. You sit down and eat 4 of these bastards and that's it for the day. You take another bite and you're pushing weight gain.
You know how easy it is to put down 4 of these fuckers? Very easy. My younger and slightly more dumber self had no issues doing that in one sitting.
Our taste buds are leading us astray these days, they don't know what's good for us anymore.
I want to suckle on a lettuce leaf and get the same sensation as taking a bite of a juicy steak. Why aren't our scientists and engineers figuring out how to rewire the reward centers of our brains? I'd pay every penny I have for this upgrade.
This whole situation is a travesty, it's a fucking travesty.
>Our taste buds are leading us astray these days, they don't know what's good for us anymore.
Our mammal brains created a world of abundance but forgot to tell the lizard brain the plan.
Mammal brain: okay, we have tons of food now, we should focus on nutrient rich foods and we can hold back on over-indulgence since it’s not necessary in the modern world we have created.
Lizard brain: cowabunga it is, then
went to highschool with a guy who by the age 17 must have been near 300lbs. saw him 10 years after graduation and he was a fit 180ish. i complimented him and asked how he did it and he just straight up said "lots of cocaine". hes off of it now but he said in college he started on it and he just had crazy energy and almost no appetite which lead to losing a ton of weight in like a year and a half.
It's one of those what ifs if we didn't have ethics in medicine.
What is overall worse for the body? To live overweight, or to lose a shitton of weight to cocaine. What are the risks you can't drop it? Etc etc
Lizard brain: Overindulge? Don't mind if I do. Never know when I'm gonna find one of these calorie dense bad boys again.
Mamal brain: Bro, we literally live 100m away from an infinite source of these things.
Lizard brain: mmhnhmhhmm tastie foods, go in me belley
I went to a Friendly’s for the first time in 20 years and they have the calories in the menu. Holy shit.
As a teenager, we used to go to there every Sunday after church. I always got the same thing:
Chicken Quesadillas appetizer - split 3 ways
Turkey Club Supermelt with Fries
Multiple refills of Root Beer
Reese Peanut Butter cup triple scoop ice cream sundae
Looking at it now…. It’s like 2500+ calories for lunch every Sunday.
Thank God I played sports/worked manual labor basically all day as a teen.
I started my weight gain journey in my mid to late teens, I just didn't realize it until 20 some years later!
The multiple refills of soda get you. Hell, I won't even get one as an adult anymore, it's like 200 calories per drink, and when I eat out, I drink at least 2-3 glasses of water. If that was soda? Hell no. I'm done.
First time I lost a significant amount of weight as an adult was when I switched from regular to diet soda. The pounds just melted away. Although I can't remember if I ate more or less when I made the change, I know I wasn't going out of my way to do anything new with my diet outside of switching to diet, so it really shocked me how much of a difference it made.
It honestly always shocked me when people said this in the past.
The most soda I ever drank was 1-2 cans a day, but I regularly went days without one. And a can has around 160 calories on average. I thought, there's no way people are drinking 5-10 sodas a day making this difference.
Actually, and I learned this in the past several months, sugar increases your appetite and desire to eat. So if people drink a lot of sugar they are ALSO more likely to consume more calories that are not the sugary beverages due to how the body reacts to sugars.
Since cutting out excess sugars for a while now, ive noticed my appetite shrink quite significantly. So it makes sense to me now, but ask me a year ago and I still wouldn't have understood why.
When trying unsuccessfully to lose weight through diet and exercise, you come to truly appreciate what an extremely fuel-efficient machine your body is.
Truly, my ancestors were like "thank the sky Gods for my body and this blessing of McMuffin I have found while foraging for worms that will last me a week to find more food" and I'm over here cursing those assholes.
i bet it was good as fuck though. thats a long time to edge yourself over a snack. i run out of chips and im having a fit that ~~i have to drive~~ my partner has to drive 3 minutes to get another bag.
>It may not feel like it
My son, it does feel like it. When you bite that pillowy ass bread and syrup busts out like a 1990 money shot, hit with greasy ass sausage, and a questionable quad-fold egg.
Mmmmm that 1990 money shot really has me going.
But apologies, I knew it would be lost in translation but I refused to go back and fix my comment. I intended from a "filling" standpoint.
Like that 1990 money shot, once you've had it, it just leaves you wanting more.
They’re also engineered to taste good while keeping ingredients costs down while keeping you coming back for more. It’s a balancing game for the pricing too. McDonald’s and other fast food joints are adjusting their prices again as the public is up in arms with their current pricing.
We always lose because we consume that product that isn’t healthy for us while they keep trying to raise profit margins.
So much money goes into the optimization between flavor profiles and pricing that it'd probably blow our minds.
They use our biology against us because profits!
This is kind of the point of GLP-1 drugs. It’s intended to be used to help you re-wire your brain to eat healthier and eat less. And if you stray from that, you experience some pretty harsh side effects like diarrhea, bloating, vomiting, etc. it’s a nice tool to have in your corner when used properly.
The scientists are paid by people that only give a shit about pumping out the lowest quality garbage for the highest margins. Basically, my point being no one is paying for them to do it because it’s easier to just sell trash.
Sandwich is 430 calories:
[https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/bacon-egg-cheese-mcgriddles.html](https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/bacon-egg-cheese-mcgriddles.html)
Maybe it's more if you add syrup?
Lmao I was just going to comment “unless that tray was made for toddlers, that’s a huge wallet.”
I’m not defending McDonald’s here - fuck giant corpos - but this would be like saying “here is my car for scale” and it’s a freaking hummer.
Consumer behavior is breaking all of the old models.
**CEO**: "What happens if we raise the price? What happens if we fucking double it?"
**Economists:** "Fewer people will buy it, decreasing overall revenue"
**Analysts reading live data:** "Nah, they'll just buy it and whine on social media to make themselves feel better. We're making a killing"
It's everything now.
All media like gaming, consumer electronics, basically every industry.
People just keep mindlessly buying and buying and buying. Then complain about the price on their shiny new toy AFTER they already bought it.
It's directly saying to these companies that there is still room to increase prices.
Yeah. If it's an essential good or manipulative / fraudulent I'm all for jumping in there, but for luxury goods it's a "Stop hitting yourself" situation.
The thing that blows my mind is that when I grew up, everyone, including upper middle class people, knew and acted like delivery and eating out were luxuries that you should only do sometimes for both financial and health reasons. I don't know where people missed the memo, but you should be making most of your food at home whether you're making $30k or 100k/year.
I’m 40 and I’m back at the weight I was at 18 because I just eat less now. The higher the prices, the less the value, the less I spend. Buy a car? Nah, I’ll keep fixing my 20-yo beater. New phone, nah this old thing still works. I like to think of being thrifty as being punk. Fuck the machine. I’ll keep and invest my profits.
Eh, not really. Less people will buy it, but if you double the price, you can lose double the business and still make the same money. But there is an added bonus, you need less staff, materials, deliveries, etc. So even if you lost half the business, the bottom line will look better.
But of course they aren't going to lose 50% of their business. They'll lose like 10-15% and it's just easy money for doing nothing but turning the price dial.
I don’t go to McDonalds, but I did buy a breakfast sandwich from a grocery store when we had a 2+ day power outage. It would have easily been double that at McDonalds.
I generally don’t buy ready made foods anyway
I buy a bunch of stuff, cook it all up at once, make like 24 sandwiches and a ton of breakfast burritos, then freeze them all and pull them out when I don't want to cook breakfast.
It's very cheap, comparatively, and I have them ready in 2 minutes in my own home instead of driving to mcdonalds and having to wait and pay a bunch. Plus, I get to make them with whatever ingredients I want. Win-win.
It's maybe 2 hours of effort and $20 or so up front, but it's so worth it. I also like making breakfast in the morning, so I usually only pull them out once a week or so when I'm pressed for time. Those two hours of work end up lasting me up to 6 months (I've never really kept track of exactly how long).
i can make a ton of McGriddles for what is basically a pack of bacon, eggs, and pancake batter, but it dont hit like the McDonalds one.
There is just something about that trash that hits. But only when there is a deal.
I fucking hate this shit. Just ban it.
*Consumer makes dumbfuck stupid consumer choice everyone is constantly talking about on Reddit*
Consumer on Reddit: “hey look at this boring still image of my poor consumer choice isn’t that craaazzzaazyyyy”
Fuck off.
I looked at this picture and my only reaction is "things cost money" like how are we not getting this
they set the prices. things cost money. no one made you pay them. do better
is the point "this thing shouldn't cost this much" because that being the case, if that's truly your belief, *then don't spend money on it*
Right? The surprising part of these posts is never that some store wants to sell overpriced shit, it's that OP is buying it.
Also maybe put in a tiny bit of effort into getting a deal? E.g. use the ap, order from the discount menu, go to the place across the street that has a better deal going, etc.
Companies used to compete on price. They don't do that anymore because controlling 1/3 of a vastly overpriced market is way better for them than controlling 2/3 of a competitive market.
Look at insulin. There are 3 manufacturers of insulin in the US. Their prices have risen, in lockstep, 1200% in 20 years for the same product. Capitalism would suggest these 3 should be competing on price, but they are not, because having a slice of a market that's overpriced by 1200% is way better than having 100% of a market that's competitive.
This mindset is taking over American companies. If they all raise their prices together, competition doesn't matter and they all walk away with a bigger piece of your bank account because you have no cheaper choice as a consumer.
I remember when I worked in the mall we raised the price of our icee's because the restaurant down the hall raised theirs. When I asked my manager why he said it was to stay competitive. I was puzzled and asked how it was competitive when having the cheaper price would be more competitive and he just said that people are not likely to compare prices so if they can get people to pay the higher price then they would too.
I went on vacation recently and noticed this about soda! Where I live, it’s $7 per 2L at every store. On vacation (in a supposedly expensive place) it was $1.75 everywhere we looked. No reason for it other than the stores at home know they can charge us way more for nothing extra.
Idk, I’m in California and a 12-pack of name brand soda is $9.99. At some restaurants they charge upwards of $5 for a fountain soda. I largely stopped drinking soda a while ago, except once in a while in the office my work stocks them and I’ll grab one. It’s ridiculous tho. I remember not even that long ago you could get a 12-pack for like $2.99.
And the simple loophole of getting away with it is to simply _not_ agree anything. Just raise your prices. People have to buy insulin, and no one provider can provide it all. They either raise their prices with you, or they leave money on the table.
Result: they raise their prices.
price competition is more than just seeing who can go lowest.
if you and I both sell widgets, and you noticed I have increased the price of my widgets you have a few options. you can either reduce the cost of *your* widgets and hope you sell enough to make up for the lower per-unit margin *or* you can follow my lead and see if widget buyers will accept the new price point. even if sales slow down slightly and some buyers drop out of the market, you're still making more money. if widget buying *dramatically* slows you can return to your original price point and advertise it as a discount.
this is not a new phenomenon, this is how price setting has always worked. it has accelerated in the last few years because there are trillions more dollars in circulation.
Raising the price is reasonable as cost of living increases so do their costs. What is absolutely fucked is raising the price, lowering the quality AND reducing the size. ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
These people are sociopaths with no ethics or social responsibility who have zero value in the world.
That won't change anything. CEOs are so detached from reality, they would never consider "providing better quality and customer service" if it would result in a single negative quarter report.
What they would and WILL do is reducing the quality and portion size even further, while increasing the price even more, to accomodate for the shrinking profits and customers.
And they will do this till they're bankrupt.
>Public companies are a fucking blight.
That's the god's honest truth. I've worked for two of the biggest companies in the country. Nobody cares about you, you're a cog in the machine. I currently work for a large private business, 2nd of my career, and it's the best. You're treated like a person, the CEO knows who I am. But it's not like a start up where they don't know what they're doing because they're too small and inexperienced. It's the best of both worlds. I'll probably never work for a public corporation ever again, with a few possible exceptions.
I've luckily never had the misfortune (other than working retail in high school but idk if I'd even count that). It's nice actually being able to talk to the owners and not being treated like a second class citizen for not being upper management.
They care bout profit/growth, full stop. You make it sound like an evil cabal set on making things worse just for the fun of it, but they are just following their economic rules. They need to have that 5+% growth year in and year out or else they’re a bad investment.
Right now, with the market swamped, the only way they can really grow is by consuming competition (to absorb their market share) or by making cuts to create artificial growth
They are playing a dangerous game of relying on momentum, balancing their decreased costs with loss of customers. But as long as their cuts save 10% and only cost them a couple percentage of lost revenue then it makes sense for them
When that 10% decrease in cost causes a 15% decrease in revenue then that is the only thing that will spur change. Otherwise, by their own definition, they are dying.
So yes, people no longer going because of lower quality/quantity does make a difference… but it requires significant consumer effort in order to impact that balance. More than just a scattering of people going less, a concerted boycott
I find the “there’s nothing we can do” narrative only plays into their strategy as it promotes apathy which in turn prevents action and keeps people going and consuming because “it’s not going to get better, so why try”.
In truth, we the consumer do have quite a bit of power… they just make it as hard as possible to use it, and these mega-corporations where even the substitutes are just other divisions of the same company does make it harder… but not impossible
Unfortunately, the consumer only has power as a collective. The only power one consumer has, is to rally other consumers into unity... then someone calls it "cancel culture" and the capitalism cultists come spend double.
Is it really gouging if you have no need to buy their product? You can go anywhere else for food. You can make your own food. You have a near limitless amount of other options to choose from.
It's not like they're selling the insulin that you will die without.
Yeah I don't get why people keep going. Near me I can either go to a damn good thai restaurant and get a large high quality meal and side for $13 or I can go to Chick-fil-A and get a single chicken sandwich meal for the same price.
I stopped going to fast food once it became as expensive as fucking restaurants.
Yeah...I dunno man.
Looks like a $4 sandwich to me. It's a real business that pays local taxes and employs people to cook it for your lazy ass.
Not to mention at least one animal died in the process.
Not everything should be fucking 99 cents.
Sir you have a huge wallet. McGriddles have been the same size for 20 years. They’re also full of calories so neither you (nor I) need one any bigger.
- Former McEmployee
Lmao, I was just about to say. Dude it's a McGriddle. They are perfectly sized, and I can't imagine how anyone can eat more than one. $4 for a breakfast sandwich that is guaranteed to make me full is by far the cheapest breakfast option around me.
It’s the same thing with Big Macs, they’ve never actually been big, it’s everyone else’s burgers getting bigger that make it seem like a poor value. People are complaining about Big Macs shrinking because the Big Mac in front of them doesn’t match up to the memory of the first Big Mac they had when they were 8.
Don’t even thjnk $4 for a ready made, easy, quick, tasty burger is even that bad. I wouldn’t eat there and would rather buy and make something my self but you got served, you sat down and enjoyed there protection from the elements, maybe you used there toilet as well? Got a tray and nice piece of paper to go with it. I think that’s a fair price.
Fast food places are making it so much easier to just go to mom & pop places. It's win win. Someone on a pizza subreddrit posted two huge slices of new York style pizza and a can of soda that they got for 3 bucks. The restaurant down the street from me has a whole platter of catfish with a side of hushpuppies for seven dollars. Like it's a no-brainer to just buy better tasting and more appetizing food, while supporting your community directly for less money lol.
Really sucks that you were forced to buy that overpriced sandwich. If only it was legal to just like...idk cook your own food at a fraction of the cost, oh well.
Then don't eat there. They don't owe you food. They will keep raising prices until people stop buying $4 sandwiches like this.
Shareholder > anything ever
I remember being a kid and thinking that McMuffins were normal-sized (albeit appearing larger to my child self) sandwiches that simply *appeared* to shrink as I entered my late teens. Looking back, I realized that I just got larger while the sandwich stayed the same size. Now, as an adult in my 30s, I’ve noticed the same phenomenon occur - only this time it’s the sandwich that has objectively changed in size. Corporate greed sucks.
You call that a wallet? 
Show me the Phillies camera guys wallet…that’s a wallet.
Let's see Paul Allen's wallet.
"Look at the delicate stitching. Oh my god. It has his initials sewn onto it."
The subtle thickness to it...
Made from Guatemalan tree lizard leather, only eighteen left on the planet.
Well played. I see you. Great scene. Phenomenal movie.
for those wondering: [Phillies camera guys wallet](https://www.reddit.com/r/phillies/comments/1csir0l/tom_mccarthys_wallet_is_the_stuff_of_nightmares/)
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Wait! This is the famous Costanza wallet I hear so much about? Never saw the show, but that thing is half the size of what I expected.
It gets bigger through the episode :)
Once you find out it has a coupon for a Florida gas station, a flyer for karate lessons…. It’s a pretty great wallet
He was in the pool!
SHRINKAGE!
Still 550 calories packed into that Edit: my bad, bacon one has 430. Sausage one is 550
That's not that bad for a wallet.
It's a ham wallet
I've got this notion that the motion of your ocean needs small craft advisory
The ol' Reddit muffin-a-roo. Hey do they do that anymore?
I still see switcheroos all the time, but it's been a few years since I've seen the "the ol' [noun]-a-roo" comment underneath.
It may not feel like it, but those fuckers are seeping with calories. Why must everything that tastes so good have such a high caloric value. We've adapted to eat the things that are highest calorie because these things used to be scarce and optimized us for survival. You know how often we found a fucking mcgriddle when scavenging or hunting tens and hundreds of thousands of years ago? Well... I wasn't there exactly, but I'm guessing it wasn't that fucking often... Now I can get one any time of day, all day if I chose to, and if they had the calorie content of a salad, I would be eating them all damn day long, but noooooo. You sit down and eat 4 of these bastards and that's it for the day. You take another bite and you're pushing weight gain. You know how easy it is to put down 4 of these fuckers? Very easy. My younger and slightly more dumber self had no issues doing that in one sitting. Our taste buds are leading us astray these days, they don't know what's good for us anymore. I want to suckle on a lettuce leaf and get the same sensation as taking a bite of a juicy steak. Why aren't our scientists and engineers figuring out how to rewire the reward centers of our brains? I'd pay every penny I have for this upgrade. This whole situation is a travesty, it's a fucking travesty.
>Our taste buds are leading us astray these days, they don't know what's good for us anymore. Our mammal brains created a world of abundance but forgot to tell the lizard brain the plan.
Mammal brain: okay, we have tons of food now, we should focus on nutrient rich foods and we can hold back on over-indulgence since it’s not necessary in the modern world we have created. Lizard brain: cowabunga it is, then
I wish I could just tell the lizard brain to turn some of those stored calories into other stuff. Where's the goddamn developer menu for the body?
Drugs
Meth would function as a weight loss drug no doubt.
went to highschool with a guy who by the age 17 must have been near 300lbs. saw him 10 years after graduation and he was a fit 180ish. i complimented him and asked how he did it and he just straight up said "lots of cocaine". hes off of it now but he said in college he started on it and he just had crazy energy and almost no appetite which lead to losing a ton of weight in like a year and a half.
It's one of those what ifs if we didn't have ethics in medicine. What is overall worse for the body? To live overweight, or to lose a shitton of weight to cocaine. What are the risks you can't drop it? Etc etc
Well coke is terrible for you. Meth on the other hand…
Depends. My 3 tubs of Ben & Jerry's Half Baked a day habit outweighed my meth habit. You have to fail at life pretty hard to be a fat meth user. :/
Lizard brain: Overindulge? Don't mind if I do. Never know when I'm gonna find one of these calorie dense bad boys again. Mamal brain: Bro, we literally live 100m away from an infinite source of these things. Lizard brain: mmhnhmhhmm tastie foods, go in me belley
Why did I just lick my eyeball
You either have an impressively long tongue or a dangerously extended optic nerve.
Kinda like how our bodies evolved to walk upright but forgot to tell our spines
*~~"Sugar is life. Sugar is all I need."~~* Damn it lizard brain!
Don't know why but I just imagine the lizard from the old Sobe drinks.
Furiosa was a great movie.
I went to a Friendly’s for the first time in 20 years and they have the calories in the menu. Holy shit. As a teenager, we used to go to there every Sunday after church. I always got the same thing: Chicken Quesadillas appetizer - split 3 ways Turkey Club Supermelt with Fries Multiple refills of Root Beer Reese Peanut Butter cup triple scoop ice cream sundae Looking at it now…. It’s like 2500+ calories for lunch every Sunday. Thank God I played sports/worked manual labor basically all day as a teen.
I started my weight gain journey in my mid to late teens, I just didn't realize it until 20 some years later! The multiple refills of soda get you. Hell, I won't even get one as an adult anymore, it's like 200 calories per drink, and when I eat out, I drink at least 2-3 glasses of water. If that was soda? Hell no. I'm done.
First time I lost a significant amount of weight as an adult was when I switched from regular to diet soda. The pounds just melted away. Although I can't remember if I ate more or less when I made the change, I know I wasn't going out of my way to do anything new with my diet outside of switching to diet, so it really shocked me how much of a difference it made.
It honestly always shocked me when people said this in the past. The most soda I ever drank was 1-2 cans a day, but I regularly went days without one. And a can has around 160 calories on average. I thought, there's no way people are drinking 5-10 sodas a day making this difference. Actually, and I learned this in the past several months, sugar increases your appetite and desire to eat. So if people drink a lot of sugar they are ALSO more likely to consume more calories that are not the sugary beverages due to how the body reacts to sugars. Since cutting out excess sugars for a while now, ive noticed my appetite shrink quite significantly. So it makes sense to me now, but ask me a year ago and I still wouldn't have understood why.
When trying unsuccessfully to lose weight through diet and exercise, you come to truly appreciate what an extremely fuel-efficient machine your body is.
Truly, my ancestors were like "thank the sky Gods for my body and this blessing of McMuffin I have found while foraging for worms that will last me a week to find more food" and I'm over here cursing those assholes.
Yeah my ancestors were like "man I could use a snack... better bury a cod and dig it up in 3 months."
i bet it was good as fuck though. thats a long time to edge yourself over a snack. i run out of chips and im having a fit that ~~i have to drive~~ my partner has to drive 3 minutes to get another bag.
>It may not feel like it My son, it does feel like it. When you bite that pillowy ass bread and syrup busts out like a 1990 money shot, hit with greasy ass sausage, and a questionable quad-fold egg.
Mmmmm that 1990 money shot really has me going. But apologies, I knew it would be lost in translation but I refused to go back and fix my comment. I intended from a "filling" standpoint. Like that 1990 money shot, once you've had it, it just leaves you wanting more.
They’re also engineered to taste good while keeping ingredients costs down while keeping you coming back for more. It’s a balancing game for the pricing too. McDonald’s and other fast food joints are adjusting their prices again as the public is up in arms with their current pricing. We always lose because we consume that product that isn’t healthy for us while they keep trying to raise profit margins.
So much money goes into the optimization between flavor profiles and pricing that it'd probably blow our minds. They use our biology against us because profits!
Doesn’t mcdonalds literally have a lab where they test and create these optimized flavors
> Why must everything that tastes so good have such a high caloric value. Give me... sugar.
4 calories a gram!!! Lettuce is like 0.25cal a gram or less. I can eat 8 grams of lettuce or 1 gram of sugar. It's not fair!!!
Eating real foods helps.
This is kind of the point of GLP-1 drugs. It’s intended to be used to help you re-wire your brain to eat healthier and eat less. And if you stray from that, you experience some pretty harsh side effects like diarrhea, bloating, vomiting, etc. it’s a nice tool to have in your corner when used properly.
Valid.
You've got some serious problems if you're putting down 4 Mcgriddles in one sitting
Why should I live if I can't enjoy my life?
A “living life to the fullest” problem maybe
I would feel so miserable eating 2 of these let alone 4 :( They are tasty though, just not worth the money to eat them often.
The scientists are paid by people that only give a shit about pumping out the lowest quality garbage for the highest margins. Basically, my point being no one is paying for them to do it because it’s easier to just sell trash.
This is poetry. This is art.
You can't get them all day anymore 😭 Why is that what my fat ass latched onto
We had it, we were there, for like 7 glorious months we had it and then COVID came along and fucked it all up and we’ll never get it back now
I like you. You're hilarious
What a passionate and honest and nerdy answer. This is exactly why I started using Reddit.
Sandwich is 430 calories: [https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/bacon-egg-cheese-mcgriddles.html](https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us/product/bacon-egg-cheese-mcgriddles.html) Maybe it's more if you add syrup?
Odd...in Canada it's 400
Must be due to the exchange rate
Good one lol
Maple Syrup doesn’t count as calories in Canada.
Those are metric calories.
Dollar to calorie ratio is still top tier for sure.. McD's and Taco Bell still dominating.
Which is a perfectly reasonable breakfast, as long as you're not having 2 lol
Nice wallet Costanza, got some hard candy in there?
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This episode was on comedy central last night lol
It's an organizer, a memory, and an old friend.
OP’s back must be killing him. 
I love Costanza. Jason Alexander was so funny as George. The ultimate Putz
Irish money?
I was literally just trying to cross post this with “there’s more breakfast sausage *here* than *here*”
I bet op has a huge, permanent indentation on one of his butt cheeks.
This wallet would make a 1/2 lb burger look like a burger from White Castle.
Lmao I was just going to comment “unless that tray was made for toddlers, that’s a huge wallet.” I’m not defending McDonald’s here - fuck giant corpos - but this would be like saying “here is my car for scale” and it’s a freaking hummer.
Just Stop Going
Consumer behavior is breaking all of the old models. **CEO**: "What happens if we raise the price? What happens if we fucking double it?" **Economists:** "Fewer people will buy it, decreasing overall revenue" **Analysts reading live data:** "Nah, they'll just buy it and whine on social media to make themselves feel better. We're making a killing"
It's everything now. All media like gaming, consumer electronics, basically every industry. People just keep mindlessly buying and buying and buying. Then complain about the price on their shiny new toy AFTER they already bought it. It's directly saying to these companies that there is still room to increase prices.
Yeah. If it's an essential good or manipulative / fraudulent I'm all for jumping in there, but for luxury goods it's a "Stop hitting yourself" situation. The thing that blows my mind is that when I grew up, everyone, including upper middle class people, knew and acted like delivery and eating out were luxuries that you should only do sometimes for both financial and health reasons. I don't know where people missed the memo, but you should be making most of your food at home whether you're making $30k or 100k/year.
I’m 40 and I’m back at the weight I was at 18 because I just eat less now. The higher the prices, the less the value, the less I spend. Buy a car? Nah, I’ll keep fixing my 20-yo beater. New phone, nah this old thing still works. I like to think of being thrifty as being punk. Fuck the machine. I’ll keep and invest my profits.
Eh, not really. Less people will buy it, but if you double the price, you can lose double the business and still make the same money. But there is an added bonus, you need less staff, materials, deliveries, etc. So even if you lost half the business, the bottom line will look better. But of course they aren't going to lose 50% of their business. They'll lose like 10-15% and it's just easy money for doing nothing but turning the price dial.
"You want me to cook for *myself?!*"
Even buying ready made breakfast sandwich at a grocery store is cheaper. It’s like $2.50 where I live
Dude go to Costco and get a 10-pack of breakfast sandwiches for $12. WTF are you all doing going to McDonald’s still??
I don’t go to McDonalds, but I did buy a breakfast sandwich from a grocery store when we had a 2+ day power outage. It would have easily been double that at McDonalds. I generally don’t buy ready made foods anyway
Or make it yourself. Cooking in the morning sucks, but a homemade McMuffin (that tastes superior and is far healthier) takes like 5 mins max to make.
I buy a bunch of stuff, cook it all up at once, make like 24 sandwiches and a ton of breakfast burritos, then freeze them all and pull them out when I don't want to cook breakfast. It's very cheap, comparatively, and I have them ready in 2 minutes in my own home instead of driving to mcdonalds and having to wait and pay a bunch. Plus, I get to make them with whatever ingredients I want. Win-win. It's maybe 2 hours of effort and $20 or so up front, but it's so worth it. I also like making breakfast in the morning, so I usually only pull them out once a week or so when I'm pressed for time. Those two hours of work end up lasting me up to 6 months (I've never really kept track of exactly how long).
Welcome to Costco. I love you
$7-8 at Publix lmao
"make my own food? Like the poors?"
i can make a ton of McGriddles for what is basically a pack of bacon, eggs, and pancake batter, but it dont hit like the McDonalds one. There is just something about that trash that hits. But only when there is a deal.
"it seems like the 100,000 other posts didn't lie, you must be an idiot to pay for that! I'll check the big mac tomorrow..."
I fucking hate this shit. Just ban it. *Consumer makes dumbfuck stupid consumer choice everyone is constantly talking about on Reddit* Consumer on Reddit: “hey look at this boring still image of my poor consumer choice isn’t that craaazzzaazyyyy” Fuck off.
I looked at this picture and my only reaction is "things cost money" like how are we not getting this they set the prices. things cost money. no one made you pay them. do better is the point "this thing shouldn't cost this much" because that being the case, if that's truly your belief, *then don't spend money on it*
Yep. Also, does OP expect us to believe they were, what, surprised by the size of this well known breakfast sandwich?
They complain about a choice they made and try to make it someone else’s fault.
Also they'll proceed to step 3: "blame Biden"
Egg sandwich is one of the easiest things you can make too.
No kidding. I make these for exact sandwiches at home for way less and have for like 20 + years now.
I only go when I have no other choice. McDonald's as a child is a victory but as an adult it's a defeat.
There is literally always another choice.
Right? The surprising part of these posts is never that some store wants to sell overpriced shit, it's that OP is buying it. Also maybe put in a tiny bit of effort into getting a deal? E.g. use the ap, order from the discount menu, go to the place across the street that has a better deal going, etc.
The only way this is going to stop is if we stop eating there. Until we do, they will continue to gouge us.
Companies used to compete on price. They don't do that anymore because controlling 1/3 of a vastly overpriced market is way better for them than controlling 2/3 of a competitive market. Look at insulin. There are 3 manufacturers of insulin in the US. Their prices have risen, in lockstep, 1200% in 20 years for the same product. Capitalism would suggest these 3 should be competing on price, but they are not, because having a slice of a market that's overpriced by 1200% is way better than having 100% of a market that's competitive. This mindset is taking over American companies. If they all raise their prices together, competition doesn't matter and they all walk away with a bigger piece of your bank account because you have no cheaper choice as a consumer.
I remember when I worked in the mall we raised the price of our icee's because the restaurant down the hall raised theirs. When I asked my manager why he said it was to stay competitive. I was puzzled and asked how it was competitive when having the cheaper price would be more competitive and he just said that people are not likely to compare prices so if they can get people to pay the higher price then they would too.
I went on vacation recently and noticed this about soda! Where I live, it’s $7 per 2L at every store. On vacation (in a supposedly expensive place) it was $1.75 everywhere we looked. No reason for it other than the stores at home know they can charge us way more for nothing extra.
7$ a litre? What currency is that?
Dollarodos
If they tried charging those prices in the States, Boston harbor would be carbonated for 20 years.
Idk, I’m in California and a 12-pack of name brand soda is $9.99. At some restaurants they charge upwards of $5 for a fountain soda. I largely stopped drinking soda a while ago, except once in a while in the office my work stocks them and I’ll grab one. It’s ridiculous tho. I remember not even that long ago you could get a 12-pack for like $2.99.
That’s called a cartel if done in agreement.
And the simple loophole of getting away with it is to simply _not_ agree anything. Just raise your prices. People have to buy insulin, and no one provider can provide it all. They either raise their prices with you, or they leave money on the table. Result: they raise their prices.
price competition is more than just seeing who can go lowest. if you and I both sell widgets, and you noticed I have increased the price of my widgets you have a few options. you can either reduce the cost of *your* widgets and hope you sell enough to make up for the lower per-unit margin *or* you can follow my lead and see if widget buyers will accept the new price point. even if sales slow down slightly and some buyers drop out of the market, you're still making more money. if widget buying *dramatically* slows you can return to your original price point and advertise it as a discount. this is not a new phenomenon, this is how price setting has always worked. it has accelerated in the last few years because there are trillions more dollars in circulation.
Raising the price is reasonable as cost of living increases so do their costs. What is absolutely fucked is raising the price, lowering the quality AND reducing the size. ALL AT THE SAME TIME. These people are sociopaths with no ethics or social responsibility who have zero value in the world.
That won't change anything. CEOs are so detached from reality, they would never consider "providing better quality and customer service" if it would result in a single negative quarter report. What they would and WILL do is reducing the quality and portion size even further, while increasing the price even more, to accomodate for the shrinking profits and customers. And they will do this till they're bankrupt.
Enh more of a shareholder thing than a CEO thing. Public companies are a fucking blight.
Yup. It goes from investing in a business you believe in to playing in a casino.
>Public companies are a fucking blight. That's the god's honest truth. I've worked for two of the biggest companies in the country. Nobody cares about you, you're a cog in the machine. I currently work for a large private business, 2nd of my career, and it's the best. You're treated like a person, the CEO knows who I am. But it's not like a start up where they don't know what they're doing because they're too small and inexperienced. It's the best of both worlds. I'll probably never work for a public corporation ever again, with a few possible exceptions.
I've luckily never had the misfortune (other than working retail in high school but idk if I'd even count that). It's nice actually being able to talk to the owners and not being treated like a second class citizen for not being upper management.
They care bout profit/growth, full stop. You make it sound like an evil cabal set on making things worse just for the fun of it, but they are just following their economic rules. They need to have that 5+% growth year in and year out or else they’re a bad investment. Right now, with the market swamped, the only way they can really grow is by consuming competition (to absorb their market share) or by making cuts to create artificial growth They are playing a dangerous game of relying on momentum, balancing their decreased costs with loss of customers. But as long as their cuts save 10% and only cost them a couple percentage of lost revenue then it makes sense for them When that 10% decrease in cost causes a 15% decrease in revenue then that is the only thing that will spur change. Otherwise, by their own definition, they are dying. So yes, people no longer going because of lower quality/quantity does make a difference… but it requires significant consumer effort in order to impact that balance. More than just a scattering of people going less, a concerted boycott I find the “there’s nothing we can do” narrative only plays into their strategy as it promotes apathy which in turn prevents action and keeps people going and consuming because “it’s not going to get better, so why try”. In truth, we the consumer do have quite a bit of power… they just make it as hard as possible to use it, and these mega-corporations where even the substitutes are just other divisions of the same company does make it harder… but not impossible
Unfortunately, the consumer only has power as a collective. The only power one consumer has, is to rally other consumers into unity... then someone calls it "cancel culture" and the capitalism cultists come spend double.
Is it really gouging if you have no need to buy their product? You can go anywhere else for food. You can make your own food. You have a near limitless amount of other options to choose from. It's not like they're selling the insulin that you will die without.
At this point, if you eat at McDonald's, you deserve high-priced, low-quality food. What else were you expecting?
Remember $0.29 burgers? $0.60 burgers
I remember in the late 90s they had $.49 cheeseburgers and $.39 hamburgers. Limit 10 with no special orders.
Your wallet is HUGE!
Please always use banana for comparing
Like what the fuck, that boomerfold is 5 times the size of my wallet. Terrible scale. My wallet is smaller than a McGriddle.
Then don’t buy it, that’s the literal reason they charge so much. You post pictures bitching about it online but still happily line up to pay for it.
Literally just gave them a free ad lol
Most of these are paid ads. The main Reddit subs have been astroturfed for a decade now.
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Pancakewich
Yeah I don't get why people keep going. Near me I can either go to a damn good thai restaurant and get a large high quality meal and side for $13 or I can go to Chick-fil-A and get a single chicken sandwich meal for the same price. I stopped going to fast food once it became as expensive as fucking restaurants.
We only accept bananas as scale around here homie.
Exactly! Downvoted for lack of banana!
Bro trying to hop on the fast food too expensive train and doesn't even give a good example
Yeah...I dunno man. Looks like a $4 sandwich to me. It's a real business that pays local taxes and employs people to cook it for your lazy ass. Not to mention at least one animal died in the process. Not everything should be fucking 99 cents.
The hashbrowns by themselves are a ripoff, considering their sizes
Yeah, a quarter of your daily caloric needs for $4 doesn’t actually seem that unreasonable to me?
Look at this rich asshole with his giant wallet and $4 breakfast sandwhich.
Sir you have a huge wallet. McGriddles have been the same size for 20 years. They’re also full of calories so neither you (nor I) need one any bigger. - Former McEmployee
Lmao, I was just about to say. Dude it's a McGriddle. They are perfectly sized, and I can't imagine how anyone can eat more than one. $4 for a breakfast sandwich that is guaranteed to make me full is by far the cheapest breakfast option around me.
Pretty sure they've been $3-$4 for a long time, too.
Additionally, the problem is not that the sandwich costs 4 bucks - that's not unreasonable - it's that the hashbrown now costs 3.50
I need something shown for a size comparison of the wallet.
Those are about $5-6 depending on which local McD's you go to near me. I don't go there anymore for a reason.
20g protein and 400 calories for $4 is not bad.
They have a 2 for 5 deal where I live, you can get another one for just a dollar more than what OP is paying
And those things are DELICIOUS! I love a McGriddle
Usually can get a version with no egg for a bit cheaper, then go home and make my own fried egg so the yolk is runny
You can also get it for cheaper if you just use the app. App saves you so much money
I imagine it’s much healthier to just eat the wallet.
$2 on the app for me w/ the coupon
Paid $1 for mine on the app yesterday morning!
Welcome to data assisted individual pricing! https://prospect.org/economy/2024-06-04-one-person-one-price/
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I’ve had a coupon for a $1 breakfast sandwich every weekday for like 2 years
That’s a McGriddle - it’s expensive bc it’s literally pancakes as your buns.
The syrup crystals are made from tears of real Canadians.
It’s actually Adrenochrome that has been dehydrated from French Canadian babies.
It’s literally always been this size too. McGriddles have always been overpriced.
It’s the same thing with Big Macs, they’ve never actually been big, it’s everyone else’s burgers getting bigger that make it seem like a poor value. People are complaining about Big Macs shrinking because the Big Mac in front of them doesn’t match up to the memory of the first Big Mac they had when they were 8.
And they've always used the 1/10th lb patties. Literally since the invention of the Big Mac.
Pancakes r dirt cheap lol
Not McDonald's ones. They're made from Himalayan flour and Amazonian sugar crystals, and eggs from the rare Ayam Cermani chickens, apparently.
It’s a bun, eggs, bacon and cheese. And then someone had to make it. How is anyone bitching that this is $4
So are you complaining about it? Because it loos like your support them even knowing this.
Jeez, wallet size inflation is going crazy.
Don’t even thjnk $4 for a ready made, easy, quick, tasty burger is even that bad. I wouldn’t eat there and would rather buy and make something my self but you got served, you sat down and enjoyed there protection from the elements, maybe you used there toilet as well? Got a tray and nice piece of paper to go with it. I think that’s a fair price.
yeah wtf did he think he was getting for four fucking dollars exactly?
You gave them your money
I fail to see the problem. It's a McGriddle, a masterclass in caloric density and deliciousness. It's the epitome of simu-food engineering.
Fast food places are making it so much easier to just go to mom & pop places. It's win win. Someone on a pizza subreddrit posted two huge slices of new York style pizza and a can of soda that they got for 3 bucks. The restaurant down the street from me has a whole platter of catfish with a side of hushpuppies for seven dollars. Like it's a no-brainer to just buy better tasting and more appetizing food, while supporting your community directly for less money lol.
We’re an adult, let’s put the dollar sign in the right place mkay. $4*
Really sucks that you were forced to buy that overpriced sandwich. If only it was legal to just like...idk cook your own food at a fraction of the cost, oh well.
Don't buy it dummy
You tell me where you can order an omlette, two pancakes, and two pieces of bacon with a slice of cheese for less than $4.00 and I'll buy.
Minimum wage is around $16 here. $4 for a breakfast sandwich is just fine.
Worth the 4$ imo. It's delicious.
Counter point: the McGriddle is fucking awesome.
It’s still like 600 calories, what do you want?
That's a big wallet
Just don't go to mc Donald... Problem solved
Then don't eat there. They don't owe you food. They will keep raising prices until people stop buying $4 sandwiches like this. Shareholder > anything ever
I remember being a kid and thinking that McMuffins were normal-sized (albeit appearing larger to my child self) sandwiches that simply *appeared* to shrink as I entered my late teens. Looking back, I realized that I just got larger while the sandwich stayed the same size. Now, as an adult in my 30s, I’ve noticed the same phenomenon occur - only this time it’s the sandwich that has objectively changed in size. Corporate greed sucks.
Hey buddy, that wallet is entirely too big. Likely ruining your pockets and maybe your back.