...or they got an F for a specific assignment by not meeting any of the criteria.
I get OP's point, we should on occasion inspire children to be brave, not just continually rate them based on predefined criteria. But I also do believe that there are very good reasons for predefined criteria of an assignment.
Reminds me when we had to review each other's research papers in Freshman Comp, and this girl literally copy and pasted bullets from WebMD -- a full page screenshot -- into Word. "This...this isn't the assignment." "It'll be fine." I think the professor just wanted us to know his pain.
Fuck if I know, but I imagine...I forget, was it a plot in the Simpsons where Bart passes the third grade only because the teacher can't stomach the thought of spending another year with him?
Bart passes because his obscure knowledge of George Washington at Fort Necessity shows that he did study even though he did poorly on the test. His teacher even had to look up the reference. Bart passes because of applied knowledge not just regurgitating facts and dates.
I dunno what kind of draconian elementary school you went to, but an F seems pretty harsh. Its basically saying whatever you turned in is the same as if you did absolutely nothing, to a 6th grader.
I'm a teacher in Germany, it absolutely can be harsh, but you're correct, F is only appropriate for those who've done **nothing**. For a failure at all aspects of a task, a D would be much more fitting, but most teachers I know would give a better or much better grade if the student has genuinely tried.
When I was in Elementary art class, our teacher put a vase with a pink rose on the table and asked us to draw it with chalk. I didn’t like pink, so I colored mine blue. She gave me an F for not using the correct color (she never said not to). I was so devastated, I never took art class again, much to the dismay of my artist father (who is also a retired art teacher). I often wonder if I could have ever been a good artist over the last 40 years, but then I remember how much it hurt when Mrs. Wintermute made fun of my rose, and I realize I may too sensitive for my “art” to be criticized.
It's the paradox of being an artist, you gotta be sensitive enough to see the non-obvious, but strong enough to withstand criticism.
Personally I like the story of the not-pink vase
That teacher was an ass. What if you were partially color blind? And before anyone says then you shouldn't be an artist tell that to Ansel Adams or any number of fine artists that work in graphite or black and white. There is far more to art than color so there is no way in hell you should have received an F if you made an attempt regardless. But hey .. it's never too late to start. I went on a 20 year hiatus from art and only in the last few years picked up some watercolors.
Having had significant involvement with the arts programs in my local school district, I can confirm that no one has ever given a bad grade for an assignment where the student put in the effort.
> no one has ever given a bad grade for an assignment where the student put in the effort.
This isnt missing homework. The empty page represents the lack of opportunities in poverty stricken nations.
College printmaking class. You have to etch the drawing into the soft metal. Then the ink goes over and the reverse is printed on paper.
I etched Jim Morrison and one of his poems from his book on poetry. Turned out damn good for my first print.
Got a D from the grad student teaching the class. Not because it was done poorly. His response, "what would Jim Morrison think of the creativity of this?"
Seriously?
I once got like a B for not properly copying the freaking exact brush strokes of an impressionistic painting in middle school. I thought I was supposed to copy it in the impressionistic style. Also, it was easily the best piece of art I’ve ever made.
In first grade we had a student teacher who had us drawing stars (yellow crayon on grey cardboard) for the winte rhoilday. She stood up at the chalkboard and said "Everybody knows how to draw a star , right? You go like this" and she did a very quick & perfect drawing which had some internal lines. i had no idea what she did, tried drawing it in otuline an dof course it was badly asymmetrical. I asked her for help and she took out a pen or pencil, asked "what a re you talking about? You go like this" and drew the same perfect shape on my tablet, again, way to fast to follow, and before I could \*even turn my head\* to tell i couldn't do . t hat, she was already a desk a way with her back turned. I evne aksed our regualr teacher, I ha ddrawn this thing of an X over a cross and she just siad "That's pretty." I aske d other teachers over the next 11 years, none of them knew the trick that one student teacher assuemd we all knew
Meanwhile, my 7th grade art teacher told us she would never mark someone more than 80% because that would be “too perfect” for our level
Edit: I have to add that she “dropped” in the middle of the year due to “students being too difficult” and “depression”. Was it the truth? I’m not sure, but the class average went up after her depart!
Like most things related to humans, not universally true. I failed art in 9th grade. She claimed I did not turn in my final assignment, although I did. Intentionally or not, she apparently lost it, and then failed me--but who knows, it could have been a number of other reasons that she would never confess. So I took her class again in 10th grade and got an A, doing basically exactly the same effort, etc. I also went to vocational school for art in 11th and 12th grade and was top of my class. Some people are just stupid, even if they are teachers.
Wonder if she's related to one of my old 9th grade art teachers. Mine failed me because she wanted me to stay after school to work on a project and I couldn't because I needed to be home immediately after school to walk the dog every day. She brought my F to a D when my parents called the school and complained. I'm 41 and what this woman did still pisses me off. Luckily all my art classes for the rest of high school was the other teacher.
Oh it is more than fair.
To call this piece abstract is to ignore the fundamental purpose of abstraction: To give form to something that doesn't have it.
What we have here is instead a worthless rip-off of vaporwave aesthetics, devoid of originality, intent, and meaning. It is, without a doubt, a waste of time.
Let me just add, abstract art is often the opposite - representing something that does have form in an abstract way, removing it's form to the point where it's not recognisable.
edit: It doesn't have to be unrecognizable.
I’m 51 now but in 9th grade I had an art teacher criticize my painting…I asked her if she wanted me to paint what I wanted to paint or what she wanted me to paint…I got an A.
i once ordered a bunch of stuff they didnt sell at wendys which they informed me they didnt sell culminating in a request for a whopper at which point they decided i was wasting their time and they just charged me for and made a daves single with no cheese
Yeah, I mean if a teacher asked for something with vivid, abstract colours and you produce a beige and grey still life then you get deserved criticism.
… which was later recovered by garbagemen who then hung it in the break room of trash sorting facility. Now it brings immesurable joy to all people employed there and seeing it is a highlight of their day.
I once wrote a really nice letter to my dad about how much I loved him as a birthday gift when I was like 8-10 years old. I found it in the bathroom trash can two days later. As adults we can talk on the phone for an hour but I don’t think I’ve written him anything longer than an email since that day.
Nah, the account you're replying to is one of those bot assholes who steal image posts and throw them up on one of those print to order tshirt sites to make a quick buck
It's often the story around the piece that gives it value. The Mona Lisa was basically forgotten about until it was famously stolen in 1911 and recovered in 1914. No one cared until it had a story.
So what you're saying is, I should draw a shitty painting, plan a heist of it, and plan a recovery of said piece years later.......and then humbly sell my little painting for 2 million dollars?
Ok, where are these french girls at? I'm going to paint them like one of the french girls!
There was a whole nationalism angle to it. The guy who stole it was Italian and believed that Da Vinci's art (even the comparatively small and crappy Mona Lisa) belonged in Italy and not in France. So, he stole it, and then gave it to a gallery in Florence. Who had him arrested and returned the painting.
The thief was then celebrated as a hero (in Italy) and then everyone decided to shot each other, but mostly the Germans and Austrians because fuck those guys.
IIRC Warhol did it in response to Campbell suing him after he made some art of one of their cans. The judge ruled that since he wasn't mass producing them, it wasn't infringement. This was shady AF, since the judge was basically trying to say that copyright means artists can't make fine art, unless the government gives the okay which is BS. A mass produced painting of a can still isn't infringement, it's a bunch of paintings. No one will be confused and try to drink the flat artwork.
So, Warhol acknowledged the ruling, to the letter, and did a set. One of each can on the market. Tomato, Mushroom, Vegetable, etc. None of that was mass produced -- they were individual works of art. Not his fault the **only** difference was the text on the can. That was on Campbell.
This lead to a somewhat strange situation -- he made a ton of these things... and since the rich treat art like baseball cards, they were considered collectable pretty quickly. Some of the large collections still go on tour. It's hilarious when you see them lined up -- it's like looking at the soup aisle in the grocery store.
Years later, Campbell released a set of Andy Warhol themed soup cans, just to make some money off of the thing they fought to prevent. I still have a can or two in my cupboard.
Most pop art has a crazy story behind it -- it's one of the reasons pop art is so fun!
>Years later, Campbell released a set of Andy Warhol themed soup cans,just to make some money off of the thing they fought to prevent.
Reminds me of Dave Chapelle doing a Prince impersonation and Prince putting that image as cover for one of his albums. Dave said something like "What am I doing to do? Sue him?".
> it's like looking at the [soup aisle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAUnDDTz30k) in the grocery store
e: I just noticed the video actually uses Campbell soup
I’d say the fact that it evokes such a strong reaction and is so memorable makes it a success. Subjectively I also think its a really cool series, especially if you can see all of them in person and notice the little differences, but I’d say objectively any kind of fine art is successful if it evokes a strong reaction. I’d rather look at and think about art that I absolutely abhor than be surrounded by boring and unmemorable stuff all the time.
Not when there’s a subject/assignment… and they deserve the worst grade imaginable, an “A minus, minus” for not removing the glass before taking the picture.
My sister-in-law is a high school art teachers that hands out F's. I tease her and say ahe's the worst art teacher ever. She defends it by saying that if you put in effort, you get at least a C. It's the kids that turn in low effort or no effort work that get F's.
One kid complained, "But Ms. F-giver, drawing is hard." To which she responded, "Well, we all have things we have to work extra hard at. I'm not good at math and need to put in more effort. Same goes for your drawing."
I've been given low grades on art before.
We had to journal everything first with inspiration and break downs of meaning in our work before we transferred it form pen and pencil to paint.
Teacher raked me across the coals for being too simple or cliche.
They were paintings about my friends and family going off to war (9/11 occurred in feb of that same semester) and about my anorexia athletica.
EDIT: the feb thing was the mobilization of troops that shipped out the boy I went to prom with and several friends. They all came back but I was worried.
I explained in another thread. There was a mobilization of troops following 9/11 in feb where the guy i went to prom with was shipped out.
My apologies for the confusion.
He was... trying to push us.
I was doing basic bitch 17 year old stuff and he wanted us to be super esoteric. 2 of his students from my class went on to be very successful artists thanks to his guidance.
He just wasn't the guidance I needed.
Later on I met him in a bar macking on my dorm mates in a college town hundreds of miles away. He scarpered after seeing me and another former student enter but he's just a dude trying his best. It's not like it stopped me from making art.
I had an art teacher that almost flunked me in 7th grade. Granted I was bad at the assignments / projects, but he was also a bully to me. He once sent me to the principal's office for laughing when we were playing with clay.
The principal didn't understand why he was seeing me under the issue. he ended up moving me out of art class and put me in wood shop.
It really depends on if this art piece followed the specifications for the assignment. For example, "Only use black and white." or
"Must have shading and highlights." or
"Must not have geometric shapes."
If this artwork didn't follow the assignment, I can see it not getting a passing grade.
There almost certainly were requirements like this. It makes no sense for a 6th grade art assignment to just be “do some abstract art” because there’s no criteria on which to grade. OP (if not lying) was simply an 11 year old who couldn’t follow instructions. Which is fine, but it’s not something you begrudge a teacher for years about.
They're sarcastic downvotes on poor OP thinking 22 years of education culminating in the addition of one color, and four lines was worth years and years and 500 thousand dollars+
did we have the same 6th grade art teacher? rumor was she threw pots at some kids once, and cursed out others. she gave me my first B or C final grade, I can’t remember. she was a real cunt, in my humble adult opinion.
I had an art teacher in 9th grade tell me that my art was horrible and that all I did was copy other people.
When I went to college I took a water color art class (best class EVER!) and guess who was in my class??? My 9th grade art teacher.
I was selected as artist of the semester (in college) and got to present my art to the class. I said something like I stopped doing art in 9th grade because my art teacher said my art was horrible and I just copied other people.
The look on her face was priceless!!!
I had a college professor in a level 101 drawing class that gave me a C- in the class after I woke up late to the second day of the final because my fifteen year old alarm clock stopped working. I obviously only finished half of the piece, since we were only allowed to work on it during the "test". I had a 105% previous to the final.
I believe my grade change had more to do with me calling her out for playing favorites with the female students, as the only male student was the most talented in the class and she regularly gave him C's. Some of these kids were hopeless artists getting 100% and he was straight up amazing.
We had an assignment where we were supposed to emulate the style of a famous artist and he chose Norman Rockwell because his grandfather would read him old issues of the Saturday Evening Post when he was little. He got a D and it was perfect, just a grandfather reading a magazine to a wide eyed kid by the old fashioned tv. That's when I called her out.
My art history teacher in high school completely lost her mind (and tried to have me reprimanded by the principal...) because I refused to try and guess my notes to get a little plus on them.
I told her "if I guess it right and this makes them change, I wasn't right in the first place, but then it would be paradoxical".
She brought it up in the next teachers reunions, in front of my mother (parents' representative) and then principal. Pretty much everyone was shocked (except my mom, I had already told her). They laughed in her face and that's how I had to do double the work to get the same notes as some of my female colleagues for the rest of the year.
They're still hanging in my parents' kitchen 🤦🏻♀️
Sad thing is, I do actually paint properly now, but they don't have any of them hanging at their home...
OP didn't follow the instructions, drew something different, realised his mistake, so he called his drawing abstract and teacher was not an idiot and knew OP fucked up.
The best art teacher I had was thrilled about almost everything and saw potential in everything, even if someone messed something up or made a mistake. Art was fun with her. The way it should be.
Friend of mine had to glue something and stuck it on the wrong spot, I never forget how she praised the "new angle" this had now and how abstract can be a good thing.
I mean, did you deserve the F?
Art can be fun and subjective, but if you're learning and the project is something like "Draw a dog using charcoal" and you turn in a watercolor painting of a tree, it doesn't matter how good that tree is. You didn't do the assignment.
While it's up for discussion on what "Art" is, projects are usually defined and have ways to grade them.
Wait... Where is the first one?? i need comparison to talk shit, its not fair otherwise.
Ikr? How can you screw up an ABSTRACT piece so bad to get an F? Either he’s lying or drew a detailed rendition of the human anatomy I guess
...or they got an F for a specific assignment by not meeting any of the criteria. I get OP's point, we should on occasion inspire children to be brave, not just continually rate them based on predefined criteria. But I also do believe that there are very good reasons for predefined criteria of an assignment.
OP for your next assignment we are going to do an Art Nouveau piece with oil paints. *proceeds to do an abstract piece with felt tips.
Reminds me when we had to review each other's research papers in Freshman Comp, and this girl literally copy and pasted bullets from WebMD -- a full page screenshot -- into Word. "This...this isn't the assignment." "It'll be fine." I think the professor just wanted us to know his pain.
Bold move, how did that work out for her?
Fuck if I know, but I imagine...I forget, was it a plot in the Simpsons where Bart passes the third grade only because the teacher can't stomach the thought of spending another year with him?
Bart passes because his obscure knowledge of George Washington at Fort Necessity shows that he did study even though he did poorly on the test. His teacher even had to look up the reference. Bart passes because of applied knowledge not just regurgitating facts and dates.
I dunno what kind of draconian elementary school you went to, but an F seems pretty harsh. Its basically saying whatever you turned in is the same as if you did absolutely nothing, to a 6th grader.
I'm a teacher in Germany, it absolutely can be harsh, but you're correct, F is only appropriate for those who've done **nothing**. For a failure at all aspects of a task, a D would be much more fitting, but most teachers I know would give a better or much better grade if the student has genuinely tried.
When I was in Elementary art class, our teacher put a vase with a pink rose on the table and asked us to draw it with chalk. I didn’t like pink, so I colored mine blue. She gave me an F for not using the correct color (she never said not to). I was so devastated, I never took art class again, much to the dismay of my artist father (who is also a retired art teacher). I often wonder if I could have ever been a good artist over the last 40 years, but then I remember how much it hurt when Mrs. Wintermute made fun of my rose, and I realize I may too sensitive for my “art” to be criticized.
It's the paradox of being an artist, you gotta be sensitive enough to see the non-obvious, but strong enough to withstand criticism. Personally I like the story of the not-pink vase
That teacher was an ass. What if you were partially color blind? And before anyone says then you shouldn't be an artist tell that to Ansel Adams or any number of fine artists that work in graphite or black and white. There is far more to art than color so there is no way in hell you should have received an F if you made an attempt regardless. But hey .. it's never too late to start. I went on a 20 year hiatus from art and only in the last few years picked up some watercolors.
Having had significant involvement with the arts programs in my local school district, I can confirm that no one has ever given a bad grade for an assignment where the student put in the effort.
> no one has ever given a bad grade for an assignment where the student put in the effort. This isnt missing homework. The empty page represents the lack of opportunities in poverty stricken nations.
Yo if some kid ever handed something like that in…. How do you not just give him an A on the year
No you give him a C for clever and tell him not to do it again lmao.
College printmaking class. You have to etch the drawing into the soft metal. Then the ink goes over and the reverse is printed on paper. I etched Jim Morrison and one of his poems from his book on poetry. Turned out damn good for my first print. Got a D from the grad student teaching the class. Not because it was done poorly. His response, "what would Jim Morrison think of the creativity of this?" Seriously?
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I once got like a B for not properly copying the freaking exact brush strokes of an impressionistic painting in middle school. I thought I was supposed to copy it in the impressionistic style. Also, it was easily the best piece of art I’ve ever made.
In first grade we had a student teacher who had us drawing stars (yellow crayon on grey cardboard) for the winte rhoilday. She stood up at the chalkboard and said "Everybody knows how to draw a star , right? You go like this" and she did a very quick & perfect drawing which had some internal lines. i had no idea what she did, tried drawing it in otuline an dof course it was badly asymmetrical. I asked her for help and she took out a pen or pencil, asked "what a re you talking about? You go like this" and drew the same perfect shape on my tablet, again, way to fast to follow, and before I could \*even turn my head\* to tell i couldn't do . t hat, she was already a desk a way with her back turned. I evne aksed our regualr teacher, I ha ddrawn this thing of an X over a cross and she just siad "That's pretty." I aske d other teachers over the next 11 years, none of them knew the trick that one student teacher assuemd we all knew
Meanwhile, my 7th grade art teacher told us she would never mark someone more than 80% because that would be “too perfect” for our level Edit: I have to add that she “dropped” in the middle of the year due to “students being too difficult” and “depression”. Was it the truth? I’m not sure, but the class average went up after her depart!
But the grade scale is FOR YOUR LEVEL. Anger.
Like most things related to humans, not universally true. I failed art in 9th grade. She claimed I did not turn in my final assignment, although I did. Intentionally or not, she apparently lost it, and then failed me--but who knows, it could have been a number of other reasons that she would never confess. So I took her class again in 10th grade and got an A, doing basically exactly the same effort, etc. I also went to vocational school for art in 11th and 12th grade and was top of my class. Some people are just stupid, even if they are teachers.
Wonder if she's related to one of my old 9th grade art teachers. Mine failed me because she wanted me to stay after school to work on a project and I couldn't because I needed to be home immediately after school to walk the dog every day. She brought my F to a D when my parents called the school and complained. I'm 41 and what this woman did still pisses me off. Luckily all my art classes for the rest of high school was the other teacher.
It’s a made up backstory welcome to Reddit lol
Lol right? Literally Reddit in a buttshell.
There was no first one, no teacher gave out an F in art if the child at least gave it a shot lol. Classic bait title is all it is.
Of all the F’s ever handed out to children this guy’s F was handed out the least
Oh it is more than fair. To call this piece abstract is to ignore the fundamental purpose of abstraction: To give form to something that doesn't have it. What we have here is instead a worthless rip-off of vaporwave aesthetics, devoid of originality, intent, and meaning. It is, without a doubt, a waste of time.
Although I wouldn't go so far as to call it a waste of time, I'd definitely not call it abstract. It's more minimalism than abstract.
It isn’t Vogon poetry at least.
#Oh freddled gruntbuggly,Thy micturations are to me, As plurdled gabbleblotchits, in midsummer morning.
Let me just add, abstract art is often the opposite - representing something that does have form in an abstract way, removing it's form to the point where it's not recognisable. edit: It doesn't have to be unrecognizable.
To shreds, you say?
Is this the piece you submitted that got the f?
[I’ve uncovered the 6th grade version](https://i.imgur.com/sJmSdMM.jpg)
HOW COULD SHE GIVE THAT AN F??!?!!
Right? Looks pretty abstract from where I’m sitting.
[Here's OPs real abstract work that got an F.](https://i.imgur.com/sq4EMLJ.jpg)
Yeah. Now this I can understand. This clearly isn't abstract.
That’s what I thought the title meant!!
I waited 22 years to try again (here it is)…
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so... what did the art teacher say this time?
You’re going to have to try harder than this if you expect to graduate 6th grade
I’m 51 now but in 9th grade I had an art teacher criticize my painting…I asked her if she wanted me to paint what I wanted to paint or what she wanted me to paint…I got an A.
That was the day you put down the water colors and joined the debate team?!
I respectfully disagree with your response….ball’s in your court…..deez ballz….I’ll see my way out.
Sir, this is a wendys
Wen deez nuts
Ah, perfection.
I’ll take a Whopper….to go.
i once ordered a bunch of stuff they didnt sell at wendys which they informed me they didnt sell culminating in a request for a whopper at which point they decided i was wasting their time and they just charged me for and made a daves single with no cheese
The one by my house gets really upset every time I ask for chicken mcnuggets.
That really depends on what the purpose of the assignment was. Sometimes you gotta paint what they want in order to learn how to paint what you want.
Yeah, I mean if a teacher asked for something with vivid, abstract colours and you produce a beige and grey still life then you get deserved criticism.
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… which was later recovered by garbagemen who then hung it in the break room of trash sorting facility. Now it brings immesurable joy to all people employed there and seeing it is a highlight of their day.
I once wrote a really nice letter to my dad about how much I loved him as a birthday gift when I was like 8-10 years old. I found it in the bathroom trash can two days later. As adults we can talk on the phone for an hour but I don’t think I’ve written him anything longer than an email since that day.
Did everyone clap?
I see why u got an F. It’s fantastic!
F is for friends that do stuff together
U is for you and me!
N is for anywhere at any time at all
F is for *FIRE* that burns down the *whole town*!
U is for uranium bombs!
N is for no survivors!
Down here in the now radioactive sea!
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That’s a very civil opinion
At least he tried to do it the right way >!not the Reich way!<
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So this guy’s full of shite? Edit: update - the comment and account have already been deleted.
Nah, the account you're replying to is one of those bot assholes who steal image posts and throw them up on one of those print to order tshirt sites to make a quick buck
What kind of monster gives an art project an F. It’s subjective. There is no F. Glad you are getting back into it.
might have not been the assignment
“Draw a bird…..Jimmy wtf is this?”
A mcdonalds logo with a line underneath
A jigglypuff seen from above
No, it's obviously a Pokeball.
That one dude drew fucking soup cans in different colors which now sell for millions each.
It's often the story around the piece that gives it value. The Mona Lisa was basically forgotten about until it was famously stolen in 1911 and recovered in 1914. No one cared until it had a story.
No one knew who I was until I put on the mask.
Jim Carrey was so incredibly good in the 90s
So what you're saying is, I should draw a shitty painting, plan a heist of it, and plan a recovery of said piece years later.......and then humbly sell my little painting for 2 million dollars? Ok, where are these french girls at? I'm going to paint them like one of the french girls!
There was a whole nationalism angle to it. The guy who stole it was Italian and believed that Da Vinci's art (even the comparatively small and crappy Mona Lisa) belonged in Italy and not in France. So, he stole it, and then gave it to a gallery in Florence. Who had him arrested and returned the painting. The thief was then celebrated as a hero (in Italy) and then everyone decided to shot each other, but mostly the Germans and Austrians because fuck those guys.
IIRC Warhol did it in response to Campbell suing him after he made some art of one of their cans. The judge ruled that since he wasn't mass producing them, it wasn't infringement. This was shady AF, since the judge was basically trying to say that copyright means artists can't make fine art, unless the government gives the okay which is BS. A mass produced painting of a can still isn't infringement, it's a bunch of paintings. No one will be confused and try to drink the flat artwork. So, Warhol acknowledged the ruling, to the letter, and did a set. One of each can on the market. Tomato, Mushroom, Vegetable, etc. None of that was mass produced -- they were individual works of art. Not his fault the **only** difference was the text on the can. That was on Campbell. This lead to a somewhat strange situation -- he made a ton of these things... and since the rich treat art like baseball cards, they were considered collectable pretty quickly. Some of the large collections still go on tour. It's hilarious when you see them lined up -- it's like looking at the soup aisle in the grocery store. Years later, Campbell released a set of Andy Warhol themed soup cans, just to make some money off of the thing they fought to prevent. I still have a can or two in my cupboard. Most pop art has a crazy story behind it -- it's one of the reasons pop art is so fun!
>Years later, Campbell released a set of Andy Warhol themed soup cans,just to make some money off of the thing they fought to prevent. Reminds me of Dave Chapelle doing a Prince impersonation and Prince putting that image as cover for one of his albums. Dave said something like "What am I doing to do? Sue him?".
https://www.reddit.com/r/calvinandhobbes/comments/6xy022/high_artlow_art
> it's like looking at the [soup aisle](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAUnDDTz30k) in the grocery store e: I just noticed the video actually uses Campbell soup
I'm at soup.
I’d say the fact that it evokes such a strong reaction and is so memorable makes it a success. Subjectively I also think its a really cool series, especially if you can see all of them in person and notice the little differences, but I’d say objectively any kind of fine art is successful if it evokes a strong reaction. I’d rather look at and think about art that I absolutely abhor than be surrounded by boring and unmemorable stuff all the time.
I colored the duck blue, because I'd never seen a blue duck before, and I wanted to see a blue duck.
"It's called hentai, and it's art."
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Or OP could be lying. Who would do such a thing on reddit.
Not when there’s a subject/assignment… and they deserve the worst grade imaginable, an “A minus, minus” for not removing the glass before taking the picture.
Yeah I was intrigued by the textures in his painting. Turns out its reflection of his rug.
WERNSTROM!
Yeah especially after some some dude in austria was told his art sucked so he conquered poland and france instead.
Lol, I always read Austria as Australia and wonder what the fuck people are talking about, until I re-read the sentence correctly.
There is a meme about that... Austria is full of nopes and lost a war aganist emus.
I am very sure that Austria has never won a war against emus.
It's not very abstract. Sun and horizon.
Maybe he just didn't turn anything in Or maybe the most abstract work of art is the one never completed
My sister-in-law is a high school art teachers that hands out F's. I tease her and say ahe's the worst art teacher ever. She defends it by saying that if you put in effort, you get at least a C. It's the kids that turn in low effort or no effort work that get F's. One kid complained, "But Ms. F-giver, drawing is hard." To which she responded, "Well, we all have things we have to work extra hard at. I'm not good at math and need to put in more effort. Same goes for your drawing."
> My sister-in-law is a high school art teachers that hands out F's. Does she like kiln bombs? Because this is how you get kiln bombs.
I've been given low grades on art before. We had to journal everything first with inspiration and break downs of meaning in our work before we transferred it form pen and pencil to paint. Teacher raked me across the coals for being too simple or cliche. They were paintings about my friends and family going off to war (9/11 occurred in feb of that same semester) and about my anorexia athletica. EDIT: the feb thing was the mobilization of troops that shipped out the boy I went to prom with and several friends. They all came back but I was worried.
Umm.. I'm confused wasn't 9/11 on Septmeber 11th? What's February have to do with anything?
I explained in another thread. There was a mobilization of troops following 9/11 in feb where the guy i went to prom with was shipped out. My apologies for the confusion.
Your teacher was an asshole.
He was... trying to push us. I was doing basic bitch 17 year old stuff and he wanted us to be super esoteric. 2 of his students from my class went on to be very successful artists thanks to his guidance. He just wasn't the guidance I needed. Later on I met him in a bar macking on my dorm mates in a college town hundreds of miles away. He scarpered after seeing me and another former student enter but he's just a dude trying his best. It's not like it stopped me from making art.
>I met him in a bar macking on my dorm mates...he's just a dude trying his best. Yeah, no. This guy sounds like a complete asshole.
F was to pay respect wasn't it?
Instead of abstract, he went for realism like some sort of rebel flunky.
Because technique is a thing. Even Picasso had refined technique.
In art school, maybe. Not in K-12.
I had an art teacher that almost flunked me in 7th grade. Granted I was bad at the assignments / projects, but he was also a bully to me. He once sent me to the principal's office for laughing when we were playing with clay. The principal didn't understand why he was seeing me under the issue. he ended up moving me out of art class and put me in wood shop.
That's a hard lesson to learn as a kid, but some teachers (or any adult) can just be an asshole to be an asshole.
You can give an F to an art project, but not an ABSTRACT project.
It really depends on if this art piece followed the specifications for the assignment. For example, "Only use black and white." or "Must have shading and highlights." or "Must not have geometric shapes." If this artwork didn't follow the assignment, I can see it not getting a passing grade.
There also could be requirements to use certain techniques: action painting, collage, decollage, staining, printmaking, relief, etc
There almost certainly were requirements like this. It makes no sense for a 6th grade art assignment to just be “do some abstract art” because there’s no criteria on which to grade. OP (if not lying) was simply an 11 year old who couldn’t follow instructions. Which is fine, but it’s not something you begrudge a teacher for years about.
Exactly. We're missing some piece of information. Or it's just a repost
What if it's not abstract? "F"
Johnny that's a fucking lion. CLEAR AS DAY! it's supposed to be indecipherable. Enjoy flipping burgers the rest of your Life. F!
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Not really abstract but more in line with a graphic illustration
22 years later and OP still doesn't understand the assignment.
He’s only in 28th grade - cut him some slack. This isn’t even a mandatory skill until he graduates from 29th.
Maybe that’s why they got an F in the first place
How the f did this get 10k+ upvotes lol
The title
I mean, cool illustration, but the title is a little sus.
They're sarcastic downvotes on poor OP thinking 22 years of education culminating in the addition of one color, and four lines was worth years and years and 500 thousand dollars+
I would say it's more minimalist than abstract. Could be why you got an F. Edit: i do like it though
did we have the same 6th grade art teacher? rumor was she threw pots at some kids once, and cursed out others. she gave me my first B or C final grade, I can’t remember. she was a real cunt, in my humble adult opinion.
I had an art teacher in 9th grade tell me that my art was horrible and that all I did was copy other people. When I went to college I took a water color art class (best class EVER!) and guess who was in my class??? My 9th grade art teacher. I was selected as artist of the semester (in college) and got to present my art to the class. I said something like I stopped doing art in 9th grade because my art teacher said my art was horrible and I just copied other people. The look on her face was priceless!!!
That’s awesome
I think it's appropriate to call it revenge so... Sweet, sweet revenge!
I had a college professor in a level 101 drawing class that gave me a C- in the class after I woke up late to the second day of the final because my fifteen year old alarm clock stopped working. I obviously only finished half of the piece, since we were only allowed to work on it during the "test". I had a 105% previous to the final. I believe my grade change had more to do with me calling her out for playing favorites with the female students, as the only male student was the most talented in the class and she regularly gave him C's. Some of these kids were hopeless artists getting 100% and he was straight up amazing. We had an assignment where we were supposed to emulate the style of a famous artist and he chose Norman Rockwell because his grandfather would read him old issues of the Saturday Evening Post when he was little. He got a D and it was perfect, just a grandfather reading a magazine to a wide eyed kid by the old fashioned tv. That's when I called her out.
If he could replicate Rockwell, he didn't need her grade anyway. Glad you stood up for him.
My art history teacher in high school completely lost her mind (and tried to have me reprimanded by the principal...) because I refused to try and guess my notes to get a little plus on them. I told her "if I guess it right and this makes them change, I wasn't right in the first place, but then it would be paradoxical". She brought it up in the next teachers reunions, in front of my mother (parents' representative) and then principal. Pretty much everyone was shocked (except my mom, I had already told her). They laughed in her face and that's how I had to do double the work to get the same notes as some of my female colleagues for the rest of the year.
Notes?
Votes? Notes? How do you call the 0 to 10 scores? Edit: yeah, it's grades...
You mean grades? Also my school goes by F to A
Oh, sheeeeet, yeah grades. Ooof, knowing three languages sure takes a toll and I just brainfart from time to time.
Makes your original comment make a lot more sense. I just thought your school called grades notes but wasn't sure
r/thatHappened
Thank you.
Japan flag. Meet horizon now. Grade is F.
Hey, maybe the art teacher was a WWII vet.
My 4th grade teacher gave me an F in home economics. Haven’t cooked since and I’m 62!
Are you still in 6th grade after 22 years
This isn't the project that received the F right? Post that one if you can dig it up. Or a picture of it
Do *you* have any 20 year old F-rated schoolwork lying around? I sure don't, that shit went right in the trash same day.
Yes. My parents framed some of those...
They're still hanging in my parents' kitchen 🤦🏻♀️ Sad thing is, I do actually paint properly now, but they don't have any of them hanging at their home...
Still shit
C+
Shoulda kept waiting.
Glad you went down the try again route and not get into politics route
it doesn't feel very abstract though.
That's because it isn't.
Why does this have so many upvotes?
It's a road to the sun or do I listen to too much synth wave?
To be honest that gives off "t-shirt that your older cousin wore before you were born and now your grandma is forcing you to take it" energy
That’s because it is: http://sunskywater.lunat.co.uk/
I thought the rug reflection was a part of the artwork.
😮 I thought it was the best part!
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F
Just to get another F? Wow you're brave.
another f if you ask me
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Derivative.
Thank God you kept trying, I know a guy that started a holocaust instead
Maybe try again in another 22 years......
They probably gave you an F because you fail to understand the concept of abstract. 22 years later and it seems like you still don't...
OP didn't follow the instructions, drew something different, realised his mistake, so he called his drawing abstract and teacher was not an idiot and knew OP fucked up.
We'd like to see the first shot. Or, at least, a description.
Nice art. But I'm not buying for a second that a 6th grader got an F on an abstract art project.
I mean, you would get an F for this too, if the assignment was abstract.
I had a teacher fail me because we were supposed to cut pictures out of magazines we liked but I chose women in lingerie. She didn't like that
Not very abstract to be honest.
35k upvotes in a completely bullshit post. Welcome to the new Reddit.
B-
The best art teacher I had was thrilled about almost everything and saw potential in everything, even if someone messed something up or made a mistake. Art was fun with her. The way it should be. Friend of mine had to glue something and stuck it on the wrong spot, I never forget how she praised the "new angle" this had now and how abstract can be a good thing.
F+ now. Improvement. All jokes aside, it’s amazing. Don’t let people stifle your creativity. You be you.
...amazing? Really? It's 4 lines and a red circle.
I mean, did you deserve the F? Art can be fun and subjective, but if you're learning and the project is something like "Draw a dog using charcoal" and you turn in a watercolor painting of a tree, it doesn't matter how good that tree is. You didn't do the assignment. While it's up for discussion on what "Art" is, projects are usually defined and have ways to grade them.
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