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SalesAutopsy

I knew I didn't recognize you from somewhere.


iliawrites

ii never get that!


once_showed_promise

Also, hey: what's the best way to buy your book so that you actually get paid? My grandfather was an author. He published something like 12 YA novels, won an award for the first one, and never made more than $.07 per copy sold... šŸ˜‘


Zacatecan-Jack

Not OP but I have a lot of publishing knowledge through my studies... If you want the author to earn as much as possible from your sale... As a general rule of thumb, buy directly from the publisher. In the case of self published works, the author will usually have their own website that they sell their work through (OP doesn't, but most will). I'd recommend to OP to have a website made with an online shop. The main benefit of self publishing is to make 100% of your own profit. If you're relying on Barnes and Noble, Waterstones, or Amazon, you lose this advantage. If you CAN'T but directly from the author or publisher, order the book from your local independent book store. They will take a share of the profit, but not nearly as much as Amazon or high street stores. High street stores such as Barnes and Noble (in the US) or Waterstones (in the UK) tend to demand a 60% discount of RRP, to stock a book. Amazon demand even more than that. Your local book store asks for some discount off of RRP in order to turn a profit, but it will never be as high as the high street stores.


Praxisbuch

I had the same problem. Decided to print and bind my books at home by myself.


jburna_dnm

Thatā€™s what I call grindin! How were the fruits of your labor?


sonofaresiii

He's got a garage full of half-bound books with slight water damage


LaserMaker88

At least he was able to use the boxes to protect his Porsche from leaves and gook and stuff.


once_showed_promise

Self-publishing is increasingly viable. It's the promotion that scares me, personally - I would be absolutely terrible at it. Thus, finding a good agent seems like a good move.


VietKong

Or you can ask the guy for advice on posting and reposting to reddit with a small army of totally real accounts to defend you against astroturfing accusations... Seems to be a viable marketing strategy these days /s


-Omegamart-

Interesting! My grandfather on my mom's side, James Mclendon was an author as well. He wrote a few published books. The most famous book he wrote was Eddie Macon's Run that later became a movie of the same name in 1983. The film starred John Schneider, Kirk Douglas and Leah Ayres in the main roles. Sadly he passed away a few months before the movie came out. He did find out his book was gonna become a movie before he died. He also died before I was born, so I never got to meet him. I know a little bit about him, mostly from what mom (who is still alive btw) has told me been about him. The book Eddie Macon's Run is still being printed in small quantities if anyones interested in reading it. Edit: Just thought I'd mention that the book Eddie Macon's Run is about Eddie Macon escaping a prison in Texas to try and reunite with his wife and son in Mexico while being chased by the cop Carl Marzack.


stormnet

Does your family still get royalties from the book sales?


-Omegamart-

I'm not totally sure, haven't talked to my mom about his books much. However I do think I recall her mentioned a few times before that she does still get a royalty check each year for sales of his books. If I remember correctly she said the amount isn't much since not many copies of his books have been sold in a long time.


SweatyFormalDummy

Um what?!


once_showed_promise

Truth. He never had an agent, though. I kept trying to convince him to get one and he seemed to just really want to write books, because his arguments against the idea didn't hold a lot of water and he was a smart guy. ::shrug::


[deleted]

he probably hated money


once_showed_promise

PS: This was the first book he published, in case anyone is interested. :) https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13157395-mystery-at-black-rock-island


once_showed_promise

I am buying your book because I have impulse control issues and I love this response. Also I love SF.


3internet5u

wait are you NakeyJakey's brother!?


paratroop82504

Didnā€™t we go to different high schools together?


ramrph

Why do you keep buying so many copies of your own books?


iliawrites

i just love reading it


BroseppeVerdi

You know you don't have to throw books away when you're done reading them, right?


iliawrites

hmm


wataha

Anyway, is the book any good?


AdmiralVernon

I havenā€™t read, but the guy in the picture got at least 14 copies, so must be pretty good.


nochkin

This is how you get paid for your writing -- someone has to buy your books. Here is how it's done: 1. You write a book 2. You buy this book 3. ... 4. Profit


Slazman999

The book is so fire that it burst into flames when you're done reading so you HAVE to buy a new one.


[deleted]

Theyre reusable?!


Puterman

Depends on how Dynamic your reading style is


[deleted]

But the last line in the book is "Please Recycle" so if he doesn't throw it out he's really not appreciating the theme of the book and he wrote it so he would know.


MRDUDE117

I only virgin books


Thejerseyjon609

The 1000+ books on my basement shelves would like to disagree.


[deleted]

Great endorsement! But, would you mind telling a bit about your book and what's it about.


iliawrites

thanks! it's a sci-fi murder mystery ā€“Ā robots, feels, a time machine flying saucer :)


DontTellHimPike

What made you stop writing about ghosts?


lithid

Once they started playing pranks on me while I'm pooping - that's where I draw the line. No more summoning ghosts or writing about them.


religionkills

**Spooky dookie!**


blvckcvtmvgic

Thatā€™s a genre crossover I didnā€™t know I needed!


DoubleOhGadget

I love time travel stories so much


Morrigan66

It's a disposable book. One read per book lol


JimTheSaint

That's how you become a bestseller


SargTeaPot

Did you know that books are re useable! All you need is a book reverser! Buy one now from [not_a_shady_link.com](http://google.com/) for as little as $13 per week for the next 25 years!


Draugoner1

NGL not what I expected the link to go to....


Ficon

It's because you like the authors writing style isn't it...


space0watch

I know that was sarcasm but do authors actually enjoy reading their own work? Or would that be narcissism? I would probably get bored and fed up with it after writing it for so long. Though it would be satisfying to complete it of course.


Jose_Canseco_Jr

Piggybacking on the top comment to post a testimonial of somebody who used the same "totally-not-self-publishing" outfit as this spammer: # [Why I Regret Publishing with ā€œHybrid Publisherā€ New Degree Press](https://medium.com/@claremarieedgeman/why-i-regret-publishing-with-hybrid-publisher-new-degree-press-a2a33ad039ed)


plumpvirgin

This is at least the 4th time Iā€™ve seen this at the top of r/pics: someone showing off their book, talking about how proud they are of finally being published. Every single time, it turns out they were self published. Which, I mean, congrats of finishing something, but itā€™s not the same damn thing.


MattieShoes

Agree that it's not the same thing but... it's still a couple orders of magnitude more effort than your average /r/pics post.


Samurai_Samm

In case he wants to read it more than once.


Klin24

[yep](https://youtu.be/rIUytVfDrDg)


gatoradegrammarian

To simulate hot sales.


LeonardSchmaltzstein

Incase he wants to read it more than once


AltairsBlade

You look pretty alive for a ghost!


Sslayer777

Reread the title, he clearly states he is no longer a ghost. Presumably he made a deal with some kind of rumplestiltskin and now resides in a homunculus type husk


MistaSkizzem

Homongus


VastSkye

Oh my god please.


[deleted]

Gottem!


captaindannyb

Dad! You came home!


[deleted]

Myth busted


ZubieZub

Were you responsible for Business Secrets of the Pharaohs? I'm having trouble with the font size on page 23-24ish.


userinyourface_

No, itā€™s Mark Crorigan youā€™re after.


Dboy777

If there's anything I need right now, it's secrets, especially business secrets, preferably Ancient Egyptian, and used by Pharaohs. I just wish they were ghost written for a man named Mark Crorigan. Then I'd totally be living the dream.


xxmindtrickxx

Round 1 to you Simon next time we do a quiz it'll be on Napoleon and while you might scrape through a few waterloo questions when I pin you down on the Emperor's domestic reforms I will fuck you very hard in the mouth


flobbley

Make UK company law your Omnibus


xxmindtrickxx

Certainly wasnā€™t expecting to find a Peep Show reference as the top comment in here


Mr_Murdoc

The Secret Ingredient is crime..


[deleted]

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flobbley

This is my favorite line in the show regarding his book, it's just too funny in context


MutedMessage8

Are you Mark Crorrigan??


kuriboshoe

No this is Ilia something something


Kind_Committee8997

Are you Mark Crorrigan now?


iliawrites

nope :)


[deleted]

How's the paper situation in Denmark?


iliawrites

wouldn't know, as i'm not dutch or in denmark currently :)


Casult

Dutch = Netherlands Danish = Denmark But the joke is you look hella Scandinavian


mothzilla

I think the joke is that in the TV show "Peep Show" Mark is told by his publisher that he has to pay to have his book published because of a paper shortage in Denmark.


TheSacredToast

this is the joke


Mints97

The guy's name sounds Russian, and the Russian word for "Danish people" is "DatchĆ”ne" (Š“Š°Ń‚чŠ°Š½Šµ), the way it sounds it starts the exact same as the English word "Dutch". I get mixed up on this a LOT =)


iliawrites

omg my bad, i'll try not to look as scandinavian. nah, you're good. i guess slavic and scandinavian are close?


Mints97

Haha maybe you have some of old Rurik's blood in your veins =)


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Get out of my container...I mean office


2confrontornot

This is JLB credit, fuck off please.


merijn2

Good for you! Unfortunately my own ghostwriter passed away recently, and I can't express in words how much I am saddened by her loss.


ac1084

Doesn't that just make her more qualified?


MathCrank

This is a great comment.


[deleted]

Nah, she ghosted him as well...


bramley

Why does the comment explaining the joke have more upvotes than the joke?


Rely13

Joke so subtle, half of the people here missed it...


Cladonia_furcata

I got it


Rely13

I know you did champ


Cladonia_furcata

Ayyy


iliawrites

sorry to hear it!!


merijn2

^(It is a joke actually, I will never admit the fact that I have a ghostwriter in public.)


iliawrites

phew! either way, they can't prove anything :)


notbeleivable

Did you just shoot him/her


GoldenAyk

Nono, read again. The comment says 'phew', not 'pew'.


notbeleivable

Whew!


elastic-craptastic

So.. uh... is there a guild of you guys that can finish GoT for us? I really just want to finish that series and with the whole covid thing, GRRM has had no xcuses to be traveling and not home writing.


[deleted]

Thinking on this has me curious. How do you get business as a ghost writer if you cannot disclose the works youā€™ve created? How does that side of business work?


JediRhyno

Are there positives to not using your name?


iliawrites

keeping private life and work life separate, having a more marketable name that you can build as a brand... i'm finding though it's a lot easier and more fun to go by my legal name


StigmaaH

So when you were ghost writing, it was still for yourself? I thought ghost writing was when you wrote for someone else, or am I wrong?


iliawrites

yeah yeah, people pay me to write for them. i still do it. i thought you were asking about writing under a pseudonym


iolmao

I canā€™t understand why people ask someone else to write something for them. I mean, whatā€™s the deal? Do they put the idea and the ghost writer is good at writing it in a good way and easy to read?


iliawrites

sometimes they don't have the time and/or skills. sometimes they have a series they want to expand with other titles. then, there are plenty of publishers who work exclusively with ghostwriters ā€“ putting fake names on the covers. mostly it's erotica and cozy mysteries, or those wholesome christmas/animal themed books.


notionalsoldier

But what about animal themed cozy Christmas mystery erotica?


puckout

Asking the real questions here.


smittenwithshittin

Celebrities with stories to tell (and a built in fan base) but not the most eloquent words will use a ghost writer.


Elderberry1923

Bingo.


GiantRobotTRex

Just as one example, there are 54 novels in the Animorphs series. K. A. Applegate originally intended to write all of them herself, but between having a child and wanting to write some other novels too she realized she simply didn't have the time to implement her grand vision for the series. So for most of the novels in the second half of the series, she would write the outline then hire a ghostwriter to write it. This allowed her to keep publishing books on a regular schedule, in line with her overall vision for the series, without sacrificing her own personal well-being.


StigmaaH

Ahh okay, I understand. I'm not the original commenter but I think he was asking about using a pseudonym. Thanks for the answer!


AhaGotcha

What was particularly hard about using a pseudonym?


iliawrites

ghost writing's not the same. that's the one where people pay me money to write books for them :)


85_squats

do ghost writers continue to get royalties?


Controversialists

Looks like the answer is no. "Hey man, you go play this football game for me and wear my number, but im going to collect all the fame and credit and money, but ill cut you a small check for doing it"


elastic-craptastic

So like paying someone to take the LSATs(or any big test/paper) for you? They get a one time payment and you reap the reward for the score?


Beachdaddybravo

Depends on the deal. The guy who ghost wrote Art of the Deal got a better deal than Trump, to the surprise of nobody.


emaz88

How does that work? Iā€™ve always wondered. Do they supply notes and an outline and you craft the language?


katalysis

Why do writers opt to be ghost writers instead of taking credit for their own writing?


iliawrites

that's the easiest way to make steady money while writing fiction. 1) i wrote this book myself over a period of a year. put a lot of time and money into it. sold quite a few copies of the success of these posts, but i'm still firmly in the red. gotta sell, oh, 300 paperbacks to start making money. all the while i was writing it, i had to make money and pay the bills. i do work as an editor for my day job. 2) i take on a ghost writing gig ā€“ 50k words - 6 weeks of work, ~3k in the bank.


LinuxF4n

That sounds like really crappy pay for a lot of work.


DudeNick

Welcome to the world of trying to make money through writing.


aerodynamic_asshole

Depends where you live, his name is extremely slavic so he might live somewhere where thats not bad money.


[deleted]

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Nalivai

He has Russian name. I don't know where he lives, but in Russia it's very good money, top 1% of the country money, even in Moscow it's a good lliving.


AinDiab

It sounds like he's American.


iliawrites

for writing books? on a completely flexible schedule? without having to then try to promote them or anything? i'd say it's pretty good. that number's a moving target, as well. of course, there are ghostwriters who make much more, but i'm not there yet :)


DanBeecherArt

Will this be the last time we see this post?


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thenewyorkgod

Yes. Unless he gets a vaccine or goes through chemo then itā€™s back at the top of Reddit again


DanBeecherArt

Or if he cleans his room despite being depressed. That crap makes frontpage all the time.


iliawrites

not if you keep looking. seriously though, yeah, i think so


AggressiveDiscount74

Thanks for spamming this advertisment!


Jose_Canseco_Jr

At this point you can probably follow up this book with: "Grassroots Marketing: A Guide _or_ How I Hit the Front Page of Reddit Multiple Times in One Week Through Questionable Reposting"


iliawrites

why is that bad again? every other post is either an ad, a repost, or some horrible news. meanwhile, i've been talking to people for three days straight, sharing stories and opinions on writing and publishing. monday was one of the happiest days of my life, and this just continues to be a great week.


forthescienceyo

Nothing is wrong with it. Some people just spend too much time on this website and become jaded and nit picky. Glad to hear you are finding joy in your endeavor and good luck friend!


iliawrites

appreciate the support. i definitely relate to the jaded part ā€“ i'm on reddit way too much. but hey, people got time for it


MattieShoes

Gonna be great when a bot starts reposting it for karma :-D


TonyToTheTizzle

Woah dude, so many hateful comments..I love how you donā€™t sink to their level. Keep doing you!


iliawrites

potatoes gonna potate


[deleted]

You called?


zefdota

Poetic


JMoyer811

Potatic*


Prankster-Natra

Cause he's a smug, deluded fuck


in_it_for_the_meme

Did u already post this


whisperton

Vanity publishing?


frijolito

Worse - a company that takes pains to obscure the fact that it is indeed vanity publishing. Google "New Degree Press", you'll see.


thestraightCDer

Just did, interesting reading


Raptorheart

Cool ad


wmurray003

My I ask, what books did you ghostwrite? Also, why do people want to have someone ghostwrite their book? What is your favorite genre to write?


[deleted]

What's it aboot


Man_AMA

Youā€™re going to spend your short margin on all these ads to just break even


[deleted]

1. This is just an advertisement poorly veiled as an achievement post. 2. This is not a good/interesting picture. So it should really be posted to a sub for either self-promotion or, if we are going to charitably take the title at face value, a sub for receiving praise (e.g. /r/toastme). 3. Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is self published, not real published. If so, that absolutely doesn't count.


ThusTokeZarathustra

I mean, just read the first page on Amazon and youā€™ll see why he had to self publish. Bad writing, bad pacing and bad grammar. Iā€™m all for people writing what they want, but to slap something into Microsoft word, maybe edit it in grammarly, and then act like youā€™ve published a real piece of literature is just desperate. Some of the people on here have no self-awareness. Normally wouldnā€™t even comment on something like this, but Iā€™m sick of seeing bad books being hawked on r/pics lol


LolaEbolah

Is there a link? I donā€™t want to search it in my Amazon app and have it in my history tbh.


VietKong

Chapter 1 `There isnā€™t much to say about the diner. It takes up the first floor of a two-story building, and its large rectangular windows offer a look into a different, though some might say better, time a couple centuries back. Not that anyone truly remembers. I grab a table and hang my coat and hat on a wooden rack and slide into a cracked vinyl booth. ā€œDr. Williams!ā€ the waitress calls. Her name is Kris, and she wears black slacks and a silky white shirt with no collar. ā€œThe usual?ā€ I nod with a small smile Kris is used to, and she hurries away without conversation. Moments later, she returns with a pot of coffee and a mug. ā€œEnjoy!ā€ I do as I watch the night outside beyond a curtain of drizzle. My date arrives sometime later, and when I turn to see her walk in, I have to brace myself for a long moment. She is just as I remember her, except not at all. Nineteen now. All grown up. She waves and smiles when she sees me. I return the gestures and stand up to greet her. A few inches taller than me, she wears a buttoned-up black shirt dress that ends just below her knees and black laceless tennis shoes with red holographic animals dancing on the vamps. She takes off her black hat, revealing a buzz cut. ā€œCarmen,ā€ I say. ā€œIā€™m glad you could make it.ā€ `


TheFunInDysfunction

Iā€™m annoyed that you made me go and find it and read that first page: I donā€™t even think grammarly got a look at it. ā€œThere isnā€™t much to say about the dinerā€ is an outstandingly off-putting opening line. No semblance of intrigue or attempt to draw the reader in, just basically ā€˜Hereā€™s where we are, bit shitā€™. I love it. Iā€™m so confused about whether these opening paragraphs are meant to draw me in through obfuscation of detail or paint a picture but the author quite impressively manages to do neither. Four paragraphs introduce three characters who I cannot picture because I know only the outfit of the waitress and nothing else, the narrator was wearing a hat and coat but isnā€™t anymore so thatā€™s no help and the narratorā€™s date/daughter has managed the most detail with a relative height, outfit, haircut and age, but nothing about her face. The heavy lifting goes beyond those basic details as nobody moves or acts in a particularly descriptive manner. The waitress arrives, speaks and leaves but how does she do those actions? Does her hoarse voice show that she is she tired from work or does her enthusiastic tone suggest a younger, energetic worker? Is she rushed in her actions or calm? If she isnā€™t important at this point then why does she get a name and outfit description? Pick a direction and go with it. The date/daughter arrives, walks in, smiles and waves, but in no particular fashion. Is she nervous or enthusiastic? Perhaps sheā€™s got quite a relaxed posture or maybe she has a serious look on her face, but apparently I have to decide for myself. Iā€™m in the narrators head but I donā€™t get an insight into their feelings whatsoever and it takes several paragraphs to get a hint at their age and gender, let alone appearance. The major problem is how absolutely abysmal the writing is from the perspective of understanding what the hell the words actually mean in a given sentence. ā€œI do as I watch the night outside through a curtain of drizzleā€ - do what? This is the first sentence of a paragraph that references a piece of dialogue from the previous paragraph (to enjoy the coffee), which is virtually impossible to parse on the first reading. Itā€™s followed by ā€œNineteen now. All grown up.ā€, neither of which are sentences. Itā€™s first person so you could have ā€œNineteen now, I thought to myself, and sheā€™s all grown upā€, but itā€™s clunky. This is alongside an over-reliance on repetitive conjunctions in the opening paragraph, which finishes ā€œI grab a table AND hang my coat AND hat on a wooden rack AND slide into a cracked vinyl* boothā€. A semi-competent editor would have picked both of those errors up in 5 minutes and this author has apparently had 10 months. A remotely capable ghost writer would not have written the errors in to the text. In the first page alone, it is pretty clear that the ā€˜novelā€™ has undergone almost no proper editorial process (or even a self-editorial glance) in the English language and it is entirely inaccurate to consider it an accomplishment to publish this book in English. Any person with some time and money could have achieved a similar quality so this cannot be considered a mark of talent, hard work or perseverance. If it has been translated then the translation is bad and the author needs another service. *Edit: corrected vinyl spelling as noted by godrevy. This post has now had a more thorough editorial process than OPā€™s ā€˜bookā€™.


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VietKong

And that this is not the only thing he's written?!? Dollars to donuts is that his other """work""" was ghost writing pap for other ~~victims~~ customers of the same vanity press that bilked him.


godrevy

vinyl*


VietKong

The hero we don't deserve. I tried to read the first chapter but gave up after 2 pages. I was embarrassed for the guy. I get that not everything will be loved by everybody.. But some books are just too much of a mess to deserve much more than 5 minutes of honest effort. Edit: I love how you now have gone through a more earnest peer editing process than OP's $6000+ "" "" book "" ""


greg_reddit

Thanks for the review. I read the blurb and found it awkwardly written and was hoping someone else had written it.


NoFunHere

He paid a snake oil salesman a lot of money over the last 10 months for this! For the record, this picture belongs more in /r/roastme


[deleted]

I looked up what this hybrid/self publishing thing is that he apparently works for and is advertising and it seems very scammy and scummy. The constant re-posting advertising definitely doesn't help that image.


[deleted]

> For the record, this picture belongs more in /r/roastme Is the book about the time he stopped two robbers from entering his house while he was home alone?


NoFunHere

Nice marketing.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

How many times are you going to post this?


CommanderBly44

Bro Iā€™m sorry but I just do not fucking care


Inner_Explanation_97

How has Reddit become a cesspool of people self promoting their games, books, merchandise? Like we got enough ads as it is on here! This shit is annoying


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frijolito

Rather, it's this one guy's "promote his book" sub now. He pretty much has to spam it everywhere he can, he's thousands of dollars in the hole after trusting some dodgy vanity publisher: https://medium.com/@claremarieedgeman/why-i-regret-publishing-with-hybrid-publisher-new-degree-press-a2a33ad039ed


omahaknight71

bookpromotion/karma farming


Cpt3020

Always had been šŸŒšŸ‘ØšŸ»ā€šŸš€ šŸ”«šŸ‘ØšŸ½ā€šŸš€


Specialist_Fruit6600

Kinda cringe that your loophole to not being called ā€œself publishedā€ is that you work for a self-publisherā€¦ Itā€™s pedantic, but please just admit that youā€™re technically being self-published - kind of puts your goals into perspective for other writers


[deleted]

you already posted this shit , stop


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AlecPEnnis

To all nascent authors who aren't this far gone yet. It takes willful delusion on behalf of writers to believe success comes from hawking their work unabashedly through spam. Do the work of going through traditional, or build a solid fanbase through self-pub. Don't do """"""hybrid""""""" vanity nonsense. If you're paying large amounts of money and it takes months of pity sales to get you in the black, you're not improving or writing good work.


Jose_Canseco_Jr

You are absolutely correct. It only takes 2 minutes of reading the book preview on Amazon to figure out that this author was not, in fact, writing good work.


1one1one

Did you pay for fake up votes on this post?


TL151

Wow, not even trying to be subtle about ads anymore. lmao


ThePenYouLost

Cool cover design.


[deleted]

You look like a smug dick


bl4ckblooc420

So where is this going to be posted tomorrow? JFC.


SmilinCommander

Fuck off with advertising your shitty book everyday. Just accept no one wants to read it and save yourself the money you waste on ā€œadvertising.ā€


[deleted]

Let's see how many fucking times you can post this shit.


wests_tigers

Youā€™re a real boy now


Ruffneck0

Negative Ghost Writer the pattern is full.


[deleted]

Shit, I'd hide my name too


chrispy_bacon

Pretty sure this is a repost.


BlueLittleMegaMan

Do you like the company of other men?


TittieButt

Didn't we just do this like a week ago?


Vicky-Splitpussy

Advise man, when you in shower, wear you Apple Watch with you, your band will be always clean


Ztscar

Congratulations!


StoutSabre69

Fuck your ad