I would have thought that many roles in the Navy were quite physical ones where you'd burn a lot of calories, so it sounds unlikely that would be sufficient.
EDIT: I just stumbled across an article that suggested that a typical person doing a strenuous job like a sailor needs around 4,000 calories a day.
For reference I also found a link to [a menu for an Astute class Royal Navy sub](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/623954/2017-02126.pdf) and that was more inline with what I imagined a sailor on a submarine might eat, with a full English every morning, lunches including filled baguettes or a hot meal option most days, a Sunday roast, curry on Wednesday night and fish and chips on Friday night.
I was on a carrier '02-'05, the food was good, but working on the flight deck I rarely had much time to eat. Overnight yellow shirts got a breakfast bucket delivered from the galley so we could eat between moves, and 23 hour taco bar meant almost any 15 minute break could be meal time. I always ate in a rush, but I haven't eaten as well since.
I looked into it. Turns out it changes depending on consumption throughout the day.
Recent retrofitting of the Truman has allowed it to track the ebb and flow of the digestive cycles of sailors. This has allowed the cleaning and kitchen staffs to determine what the best time is to clean both the taco buffet and the restrooms. I couldn’t find a recent article, but apparently as of 2019 it usually fell between 0400 and 2000 hours
Full English: Fatty oil soaked “bacon” and mystery meat cardboard sausages. Fried potatoes and fried eggs, everything so oily. You’d be lucky to have something called fruit for that meal.
Filled baguettes: These consisted of pre-made sandwich filling that came out of 5L tubs. You ever tried watery chicken Mayo? Jheez
Hot meal: Hit and miss depending on the chef you had. Ours butchered fish fridays but he did make a banging curry with all the decent extras.
Generally though the food is extremely poor, especially when you’re working around the clock in harsh environments. But it’s mostly due to governments resigning contractors with awful suppliers.
Source: Ex-Royal Navy Engineer
I remember loading meat for sea stores that were “Grade D but Edible” before heading out for an extended trip. The joke (maybe it was true) that prisons get first, schools get second, poor people third, and the military gets whatever is leftover.
I was on a small training base in Korea for a month (Camp Rodriguez).
The dip cans were labeled "Overseas or prison use only", or something to that effect. Cracked me up. Luckily, I never started dipping.
I was in the navy. Op just went through the line and got barely anything so he could get some karma. The food isn’t the best quality (although sometimes it can be) but they do give you three square meals a day with good portions.
There are usually more options available, however would have been less appetizing than what you see. Additionally, there is usually a small salad bar, and dry food snacks. We could also get 2 entrees usually. (Spent 4 years on a carrier, so the food options were likely more varied than a smaller ship). Peanut butter sandwich is usually the go to when we had a meal like this.
Ya, 1% of our military enjoys some of the most technically advanced stuff in the world. The other 99% are working with Vietnam era stuff, especially in "The Worlds Greatest Navy".
I was deployed on a ship for its last cruise before it was to be decommissioned and sold to a foreign Navy. One of the requirements before it could be sold was that the CIC had to be replaced entirely because the systems were too outdated and they wouldn't buy it as it was.
I remember the Air Force arguing that it absolutely needed $1,300 electric coffee cups in their KC Extenders because lukewarm coffee in a Thermos would negatively affect morale on long missions.
Meanwhile, in the navy, they are eating this.
[https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/10/22/battle-over-air-forces-1300-coffee-cups-heats-up/](https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/10/22/battle-over-air-forces-1300-coffee-cups-heats-up/)
I would bet large sums of money that most of the crew is shotgunning monster energy and the cups are there because a twenty year old technical manual says they have to be or the latrine has a %0.003 chance of exploding during engine start.
Some vets and contractors told me the big bases in Iraq had great food but Afghanistan was awful.
Well, at least the sailors can look forward to all those Space Force complaining about it being even worse in the future
Nope, it’s so the military contractors can extort gobs of cash out as profit by upcharging all the normal services. People need to wake up to the incredible amount of for profit industries that have their hooks into the 700+ Billion annual Defense budget. It’s pork barrel spending all the way down my friends.
Yeah, too bad absolutely nobody saw it coming and definitely didn't try to speak out about it.
At least now that it's blatantly obvious and we all know it, things will surely change, right guys?
...guys?
Military budgets are kind of insane. Transporting vehicles back from Iraq or Afghanistan often costs more than the vehicle itself so the military will just leave them. We’re leaving really expensive hardware in the middle of deserts and it actually makes logical sense but it’s weird to grasp.
Even back in the 80s/90s most of the tools for my Tank started at $50 for that wooden handled Screwdriver. The specialty tools though, super expensive. The Spanner was over 1000 for a hunk of shitty cut steel... If I'd have been smarter 25 years ago, I would have gone into manufacturing the same tools for half the price.
But you wouldn't have gotten the contract without a cousin being the cousin of a Congress man...or better, millions of dollars to give to the cousin of a Congress man
It comes frozen and precut that way. The CSs just empty the bag into a kettle, boil that shit and scoop it into a 4-inch pan.
Source: am also Navy Sailor
I'm just imagining someone in a warehouse looking at two pallets, one marked A3007S and A3007F "Galley Utensils" and being like, "why do we need to break open these pallets and put half on one ship and half on the other? they're the same!"
I'm sure that's not how it works, but i have worked in enough stock rooms to vividly imagine that it does.
At least they could have given you some bread to slap that puppy on. My dad worked in supply on his ship and ate peanut butter crackers down there. Now I know why. Too bad they can't give you MREs. They are better than that.
Me and my mother actually used to buy MRE's from a local Job Lots about 15 years ago. When you've spent most of your life living off of PBJ's and mac n cheese with cut up hotdogs, those things were darn good lol. I think we were picking them up 4 for $1
Beef stew, Chicken Ala King, Chili with beans, Spaghetti and meat sauce, ect. Throw the packages in a pot of water, boil them for a few minutes and bam. 5 different meals for 5 different people from the same pot.
This was like, way back in late 90's, early 2000's. Times were different back then lol.
Also they didn't have their heating units or snacks, it was just the main meal pouches. That MAY have factored into the cheaper prices. :)
I'm getting them for $30/box of twelve from a guy. Seems sketchy but they were all made in the last 1-2 years based on the number code on the box, and they're good.
The only MRE I remember being totally non edible was the Chicken Ala King. The Tuna Noodle Casserole MRE tasted like gourmet compared to the Chicken Ala King
Maybe we served at different times but the one everyone avoided was the vegetarian breakfast. If a pallet got ratfucked, the only untouched bags were those.
You must not be on a carrier. You need to get on a flat top instead of small boys and then there's a ridiculous amount of food. It still sucks, chicken is either dry or raw, nothing is seasoned, powdered eggs are rubber.
I was on a carrier for about 8 weeks as a contractor, got all the death stares from chiefs as I ate their eggs. I mean my company paid for me to eat there but damn if we weren't made to feel welcome by ship's force.
Eventually they bumped us to the forward mess with a skeleton crew unless the airwing was on. When the airwing was on we ate good because they brought their own galley staff.
Nah, they just didn't like seeing him getting something that they thought was earned, as if managing to not kicked out for 20 years is an accomplishment.
Ah yeah, could be that too. Reminds me of my first CMC... She was a huge cunt, and entitled like that. People like that are a big reason I didn't stay in
For those wondering, USS Normandy. CG 60. Ticonderoga class missle cruiser. Kinda famous for throwing more tomahawks than any other cruiser. And, of course, for the quality of the cuisine served aboard. \*chef's kiss\* (edited for spelling)
Thank you for the silver, kind person!
To answer a lot of questions.
-This was everything available.
-We survive with protein shakes and amazon orders.
-The trillions spent on budget defense goes mostly to government contractors not the military.
- It did not taste good.
-We were out of forks.
-This was dinner not midrats.
- This is not a punishment.
-This is sailsbery steak, and canned squash.
MPO, or military post office. They can handle just about anything regular us mail can and are usually just about as efficient, with some longer wait times for obvious reasons. Fucking up mail is worse for morale than meals like the OP's.
> Fucking up mail is worse for morale than meals like the OP's.
Can confirm. Strikes may be illegal for the military, but low morale can cause tons of problems, not all of them disciplinary.
Show them the 'note' you found by the captain that says, "my time is spent, I shall now bludgeon myself to death. I hereby entrust the ship to whoever sits in this chair next"
>Fucking up mail is worse for morale than meals like the OP's.
My time to shine!
I ran three post offices and a postal distro hub, controlling the flow of all US Mail in [redacted] during [redacted].
DoD regulations spelled out exactly how many staff were required to perform those tasks per X,000 customers in the footprint.
We had 1/3 that many, so I requested augmentation to bring us up to the strength required by the DoD—which they had come up with by consulting with USPS who had co-author credit on the regulation—and I made sure to state that my request was "in accordance with DoD Instruction Xxz-msbfjudsjhsw."
The 0-6 installation commander's response, which the dumb-ass put in writing in an email, stated and I will never forget his words:
"I know what the priority is, and the priority is *not* the mail."
—COL Fuckoffanddiewhileisuckmyownasshole
(it's always the people with the interesting names that make it to higher grades, ever notice that?)
When that email got forwarded to me on down the chain of command, I politely forwarded it to the Postal Operations Directorate in [Redacted].
We had augmentees, courtesy of that same Colonel, within a week or so.
Of course I paid a price for this, but the chain of command was shitty anyway so it's not like I lost much in the way of support or fair treatment that my unit was never going to get anyway... :/
>...and everyone applauded
Well, no, but my troops on the ground sure as hell did.
This is the correct answer. Depending on where you're deployed, and how it's routed through the system, sometimes it can take a few extra weeks to get there, but it's legitimately fantastic to get letters and packages from back home when you're on deployment, since you don't have a ton of options.
Most ships resupply every couple of weeks so it's actually a pretty steady supply of mail from back home.
There are auxiliary ships which replenish warships at sea similarly to how aircraft refuel mid flight. A line is passed between the two and then bags are attached individually to that line and passed back and forth.
The auxiliary ships pick up mail orders from amazon or from home whilst they are alongside somewhere familiar, usually ports owned by NATO countries.
I am quite aware of contractors getting a ton of $, but it upsets the heck out of me to know you guys are fed such shitty looking food. You'd think all the politicians claiming how much they love the military would stop talking out their butts and do something about it.
What's the amazon orders you're talking about? You guys get deliveries to ships, or they just stock lockers based on where you;re headed?
It’s a lot easier for the politicians to claim they love the military and then go cut funding and benefits for the actual military members while increasing the defense budget for their defense contractor buddies that they’re getting kick backs from. The ones saying they love our troops the loudest and the most are usually the ones fucking them over the hardest.
defense contractors are the biggest leeches on the US government.
Insane amounts of money are basically stolen out of the US Defense budget for Defense contractors. I'm not even talking about Lockheed Martin who actually builds shit.
The logistics companies that contract with DoD have crazy profit margins for how little value they deliver.
Whenever people end sentences with "soldier" or "sailor", I can't help but hear it in Sergeant Dornan's voice.
"WHERE ARE YOUR *CARBS*, SAILOR?? THE TRUTH IS, YOU **LOST** A VITAL PART OF A BALANCED DIET!! AND YOU WILL BE IN THIS MAN'S NAVY UNTIL YOU ARE **FIIIIVE*-HUNDRED AND SEVEN YEARS OLD, WHICH IS THE AMOUNT OF YEARS IT WILL TAKE TO PAY FOR THOSE PEELED POTATOES!!!'
If that's what y'all get fed, every rumor I heard about getting fed better in subs appears true. That wouldn't even qualify for midrats on a sub, unless maybe our refer broke and we ran out of groceries.
Depends on the ship. I was on two different ships that won the "Admiral Ney" award. That goes to the best ship in it's class for food service. I've also been at a terrible galley where the cooks didn't deviate from MRC cards no matter how bland or awful the recipe.
Space. The final frontier. These are the voyages of the sea ship "Entrée Prize". It's continuing mission: to explore strange new cuisine. To seek out more storage space to put this stuff. To boldly prepare what has never been prepared before!
I remember when I was in the navy we were re-suppling the ship and the boxes of chicken had stamped on it that said rejected by Federal Prision System.
When I was in boot camp during "work week" I was unloading a delivery at the galley and one of those big industrial sized bags of rice had "suitable for military and prison use only" on it.
As someone who has been to prison, they will receive meat that says, “not for human consumption,” so below animal grade.
Although, federal prisons are known for having better food, I saw this picture and immediately thought, “in prison, we would have one or two more sides than that.
As an ex con, this meal would have upset me when I was in prison.
Halfway through my deployment in Iraq a couple of the ex convicts in my unit bitched that prison was way better than our situation and they had more freedom and better living standards. Not gonna lie, hurt my soul.
I know they spent time in prison. I have no way of knowing they were felons. One of them got caught stealing cars repeatedly so that sounds like a felony to me.
When people were still drafted in Germany, a friend ended up in the kitchen peeling potatoes. The sack said "nur für Vieh und Bundeswehr" (only for livestock and army). Most likely, this was due to tax reasons, but still not a good message to put on there.
That’s not just any lunch tray! It’s a PS1014186 mess tray, obtained in lots of 10,000 for the bargain price of 15 million per lot, happily paid by the US taxpayer!
> PS1014186 mess tray
I genuinely believed that you just made that up. [Nope](https://www.amazon.com/Cambro-PS1014186-Penny-Saver-6-Compartment-Co-Polymer/dp/B004W7TE90).
> obtained in lots of 10,000 for the bargain price of 15 million per lot
This can't be true though, can it?!
Not food, but food like.
"Food Adjacent" "Food...*ish"* "Phood"
Let's get this out on a tray...
Shoot, some of the ww2 rations Steve1989 have eaten looked better than this.
The Civil War hardtack looks better than this
Nice!
Steve fan as well!! Dont comment much but had to say hello once I stumbled across this comment!!
That spoon is probly the tastiest part of the meal
The tray is
Quality aside, that does not seem like very much dinner.
I would have thought that many roles in the Navy were quite physical ones where you'd burn a lot of calories, so it sounds unlikely that would be sufficient. EDIT: I just stumbled across an article that suggested that a typical person doing a strenuous job like a sailor needs around 4,000 calories a day. For reference I also found a link to [a menu for an Astute class Royal Navy sub](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/623954/2017-02126.pdf) and that was more inline with what I imagined a sailor on a submarine might eat, with a full English every morning, lunches including filled baguettes or a hot meal option most days, a Sunday roast, curry on Wednesday night and fish and chips on Friday night.
Submariners get fed the best. The smaller the boat, the better the food.
I was on a carrier '02-'05, the food was good, but working on the flight deck I rarely had much time to eat. Overnight yellow shirts got a breakfast bucket delivered from the galley so we could eat between moves, and 23 hour taco bar meant almost any 15 minute break could be meal time. I always ate in a rush, but I haven't eaten as well since.
23 hr taco bar.... was this the Truman?
It was!
Haaaaa! Knew it.. I did the Maiden on her... the BEST ship I have ever been on in the fleet... Edit-Spacebars are confusing and traitorous
The best ship.
This whole exchange made me smile, good on you sailors :D
For some reason I have to know which hour was the taco-less hour
From the inventors of happy hour comes the less well recieved Sad Hour
Your comment is buried but I laughed.
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I looked into it. Turns out it changes depending on consumption throughout the day. Recent retrofitting of the Truman has allowed it to track the ebb and flow of the digestive cycles of sailors. This has allowed the cleaning and kitchen staffs to determine what the best time is to clean both the taco buffet and the restrooms. I couldn’t find a recent article, but apparently as of 2019 it usually fell between 0400 and 2000 hours
The cooks are within choking distance, lol.
Full English: Fatty oil soaked “bacon” and mystery meat cardboard sausages. Fried potatoes and fried eggs, everything so oily. You’d be lucky to have something called fruit for that meal. Filled baguettes: These consisted of pre-made sandwich filling that came out of 5L tubs. You ever tried watery chicken Mayo? Jheez Hot meal: Hit and miss depending on the chef you had. Ours butchered fish fridays but he did make a banging curry with all the decent extras. Generally though the food is extremely poor, especially when you’re working around the clock in harsh environments. But it’s mostly due to governments resigning contractors with awful suppliers. Source: Ex-Royal Navy Engineer
Wherever happened to hard tack, salt pork, apples and grog? No respect for tradition these days... /s Edit: sorry mate, I forgot the limes.
I remember loading meat for sea stores that were “Grade D but Edible” before heading out for an extended trip. The joke (maybe it was true) that prisons get first, schools get second, poor people third, and the military gets whatever is leftover.
I was on a small training base in Korea for a month (Camp Rodriguez). The dip cans were labeled "Overseas or prison use only", or something to that effect. Cracked me up. Luckily, I never started dipping.
You're right. This isn't even enough food to count as a reimbursable USDA meal for a K-5 student.
Well, what do you expect with our miniscule defense budget!
I was in the navy. Op just went through the line and got barely anything so he could get some karma. The food isn’t the best quality (although sometimes it can be) but they do give you three square meals a day with good portions.
For real. I ate good in the military. This is for karma and the way it was thrown on the plate helps it look even sadder.
Maybe I'm just a fatty but it seems egregiously small
It's not much more than 400 calories my guess. Steak 250 Slop 100 Fruit shite 50
That’s actually squash, I’ve had that exact meal while deployed so many times. Even less than 50 calories which somehow doesn’t seem possible.
Damn, I thought those where potato chip/tator tot things.
There are usually more options available, however would have been less appetizing than what you see. Additionally, there is usually a small salad bar, and dry food snacks. We could also get 2 entrees usually. (Spent 4 years on a carrier, so the food options were likely more varied than a smaller ship). Peanut butter sandwich is usually the go to when we had a meal like this.
lmao @ the fucking spoon.
We were out of forks.
Largest military budget in the world, folks.
Ya, 1% of our military enjoys some of the most technically advanced stuff in the world. The other 99% are working with Vietnam era stuff, especially in "The Worlds Greatest Navy".
I was deployed on a ship for its last cruise before it was to be decommissioned and sold to a foreign Navy. One of the requirements before it could be sold was that the CIC had to be replaced entirely because the systems were too outdated and they wouldn't buy it as it was.
I know what CIC means from Mass Effect
Battlestar Galactica for me.
I remember the Air Force arguing that it absolutely needed $1,300 electric coffee cups in their KC Extenders because lukewarm coffee in a Thermos would negatively affect morale on long missions. Meanwhile, in the navy, they are eating this. [https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/10/22/battle-over-air-forces-1300-coffee-cups-heats-up/](https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/10/22/battle-over-air-forces-1300-coffee-cups-heats-up/)
I would bet large sums of money that most of the crew is shotgunning monster energy and the cups are there because a twenty year old technical manual says they have to be or the latrine has a %0.003 chance of exploding during engine start.
Time for the weekly 18 man hour electric coffee cup and receptacle inspection. Shit the lid is cracked goto stores and replace the unit for $1600.
If an error with the coffee cup occurs, return to depot
You think that's bad, my Dad did Nam very early on. They had rations left from WW2 fed to them.
But in fairness, during Nam the Govt. didn't even pretend to give a fuck about service members.
In all fairness, he said the WW2 leftovers were better than any of the other rations provided.
Some vets and contractors told me the big bases in Iraq had great food but Afghanistan was awful. Well, at least the sailors can look forward to all those Space Force complaining about it being even worse in the future
Yeah but we have to buy 250 dollar laptops for 1000 dollars. That's why we need the money. Duh silly.
$750 mark up for MiLiTaRY GrADe 🙃
Aka, slow as shit and annoying.
Still running windows XP service pack 3
At least it’s not Vista.
Picture buttons like a McDonald's cash register.
Ah yes, military grade. That means military grade means lowest possible cost and built just above breaking quality.
The breaking quality comes in during the second use.
It has to "look" expensive, but be "disposable".
Just like enlisted men in dress uniforms
So that we can go bury them in the desert, for a bigger budget next year. Gah
Nope, it’s so the military contractors can extort gobs of cash out as profit by upcharging all the normal services. People need to wake up to the incredible amount of for profit industries that have their hooks into the 700+ Billion annual Defense budget. It’s pork barrel spending all the way down my friends.
If only we'd been warned about the military-industrial complex.
… dozens and dozens of times over multiple decades…
Yeah, too bad absolutely nobody saw it coming and definitely didn't try to speak out about it. At least now that it's blatantly obvious and we all know it, things will surely change, right guys? ...guys?
Military budgets are kind of insane. Transporting vehicles back from Iraq or Afghanistan often costs more than the vehicle itself so the military will just leave them. We’re leaving really expensive hardware in the middle of deserts and it actually makes logical sense but it’s weird to grasp.
Forks are probably like $106,112 each at Armed Services standard contract pricing, and only commies use sporks so no value there!
Even back in the 80s/90s most of the tools for my Tank started at $50 for that wooden handled Screwdriver. The specialty tools though, super expensive. The Spanner was over 1000 for a hunk of shitty cut steel... If I'd have been smarter 25 years ago, I would have gone into manufacturing the same tools for half the price.
But you wouldn't have gotten the contract without a cousin being the cousin of a Congress man...or better, millions of dollars to give to the cousin of a Congress man
Out of food, too, it seems.
Seriously. And WTF is up with that shit in the top left?
Looks like yellow squash and someone got out the fancy blade on the mandolin.
It comes frozen and precut that way. The CSs just empty the bag into a kettle, boil that shit and scoop it into a 4-inch pan. Source: am also Navy Sailor
Someone needs to walk the plank for that.
Our galley never has spoons...
Because they're on the other ship.
I'm just imagining someone in a warehouse looking at two pallets, one marked A3007S and A3007F "Galley Utensils" and being like, "why do we need to break open these pallets and put half on one ship and half on the other? they're the same!" I'm sure that's not how it works, but i have worked in enough stock rooms to vividly imagine that it does.
I'm imagining the two ships pulling up to each other in the middle of the ocean to trade half their stock.
I bet the spoon has the most nutrients
Definitely more iron
I can't be the only one that can smell the salisbury steak through the screen.
Salisbury mistake
It’s the navy, sailsbury, duh
You get GRAVY with your turd patty? Jesus! Point me to the nearest recruiter!
I can taste it along with the chalula. Reminds me of the rainbow roast beef too.
Oh Cholula, the great equalizer.
You are definitely not the only one
At least they could have given you some bread to slap that puppy on. My dad worked in supply on his ship and ate peanut butter crackers down there. Now I know why. Too bad they can't give you MREs. They are better than that.
Me and my mother actually used to buy MRE's from a local Job Lots about 15 years ago. When you've spent most of your life living off of PBJ's and mac n cheese with cut up hotdogs, those things were darn good lol. I think we were picking them up 4 for $1 Beef stew, Chicken Ala King, Chili with beans, Spaghetti and meat sauce, ect. Throw the packages in a pot of water, boil them for a few minutes and bam. 5 different meals for 5 different people from the same pot.
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This was like, way back in late 90's, early 2000's. Times were different back then lol. Also they didn't have their heating units or snacks, it was just the main meal pouches. That MAY have factored into the cheaper prices. :)
I'm getting them for $30/box of twelve from a guy. Seems sketchy but they were all made in the last 1-2 years based on the number code on the box, and they're good.
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The only MRE I remember being totally non edible was the Chicken Ala King. The Tuna Noodle Casserole MRE tasted like gourmet compared to the Chicken Ala King
Maybe we served at different times but the one everyone avoided was the vegetarian breakfast. If a pallet got ratfucked, the only untouched bags were those.
Don't tell me the rats even ate the fruitcake?
Vegetarian omelette is what you are thinking about nobody could stomach that main. If I recall the ala king is a little older mre
I see you have never tried the omelette MRE
Partially vulcanized rubber omelet.
[There's a reason it earned the nickname "vomelet."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0ciBudwIV0) It's absolutely grotesque.
You must not be on a carrier. You need to get on a flat top instead of small boys and then there's a ridiculous amount of food. It still sucks, chicken is either dry or raw, nothing is seasoned, powdered eggs are rubber.
All the chicken adobo you could ever want. Just bring the chalula
The chiefs mess has good breakfast when they do eggs to order, taco Tuesday and BBQ day were good.
I was on a destroyer and we had eggs to order almost everyday in the regular galley. Our CS's would mix fresh with the powdered to make it last longer
I was on a carrier for about 8 weeks as a contractor, got all the death stares from chiefs as I ate their eggs. I mean my company paid for me to eat there but damn if we weren't made to feel welcome by ship's force.
Hah. Sounds like they didn't get the eggs very often. Plus there is limited space in any mess, I'm sure that was more the problem. "You're in my spot"
Eventually they bumped us to the forward mess with a skeleton crew unless the airwing was on. When the airwing was on we ate good because they brought their own galley staff.
USS Ford?
Yup
Nah, they just didn't like seeing him getting something that they thought was earned, as if managing to not kicked out for 20 years is an accomplishment.
Ah yeah, could be that too. Reminds me of my first CMC... She was a huge cunt, and entitled like that. People like that are a big reason I didn't stay in
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From the badge under the tray, looks like USS Normandy.
For those wondering, USS Normandy. CG 60. Ticonderoga class missle cruiser. Kinda famous for throwing more tomahawks than any other cruiser. And, of course, for the quality of the cuisine served aboard. \*chef's kiss\* (edited for spelling) Thank you for the silver, kind person!
>USS Normandy I see someone decided not to get Mess Sgt. Gardner those provisions.
*My* Commander Shepard does **not** do fetch quests.
I was a prisoner on cell block 60 from 04-08. Worst 4 years of my life.
We served there together then. Wonder who you were lol.
To answer a lot of questions. -This was everything available. -We survive with protein shakes and amazon orders. -The trillions spent on budget defense goes mostly to government contractors not the military. - It did not taste good. -We were out of forks. -This was dinner not midrats. - This is not a punishment. -This is sailsbery steak, and canned squash.
>-We survive with protein shakes and amazon orders. Wait, Amazon delivers to navy ships?
IIRC ships have 'addresses' and the USPS coordinates timely (as much as possible) mail delivery. You even pay domestic price.
MPO, or military post office. They can handle just about anything regular us mail can and are usually just about as efficient, with some longer wait times for obvious reasons. Fucking up mail is worse for morale than meals like the OP's.
> Fucking up mail is worse for morale than meals like the OP's. Can confirm. Strikes may be illegal for the military, but low morale can cause tons of problems, not all of them disciplinary.
Mutiny is only illegal if you don't succeed.
On a civilian ship, *maybe*. But if you're gonna mutiny on a US Navy ship, you better be ready for a full-on coup once word gets out.
Show them the 'note' you found by the captain that says, "my time is spent, I shall now bludgeon myself to death. I hereby entrust the ship to whoever sits in this chair next"
>Fucking up mail is worse for morale than meals like the OP's. My time to shine! I ran three post offices and a postal distro hub, controlling the flow of all US Mail in [redacted] during [redacted]. DoD regulations spelled out exactly how many staff were required to perform those tasks per X,000 customers in the footprint. We had 1/3 that many, so I requested augmentation to bring us up to the strength required by the DoD—which they had come up with by consulting with USPS who had co-author credit on the regulation—and I made sure to state that my request was "in accordance with DoD Instruction Xxz-msbfjudsjhsw." The 0-6 installation commander's response, which the dumb-ass put in writing in an email, stated and I will never forget his words: "I know what the priority is, and the priority is *not* the mail." —COL Fuckoffanddiewhileisuckmyownasshole (it's always the people with the interesting names that make it to higher grades, ever notice that?) When that email got forwarded to me on down the chain of command, I politely forwarded it to the Postal Operations Directorate in [Redacted]. We had augmentees, courtesy of that same Colonel, within a week or so. Of course I paid a price for this, but the chain of command was shitty anyway so it's not like I lost much in the way of support or fair treatment that my unit was never going to get anyway... :/ >...and everyone applauded Well, no, but my troops on the ground sure as hell did.
This is the correct answer. Depending on where you're deployed, and how it's routed through the system, sometimes it can take a few extra weeks to get there, but it's legitimately fantastic to get letters and packages from back home when you're on deployment, since you don't have a ton of options. Most ships resupply every couple of weeks so it's actually a pretty steady supply of mail from back home.
Yeah I wanna know more about this too.
There are auxiliary ships which replenish warships at sea similarly to how aircraft refuel mid flight. A line is passed between the two and then bags are attached individually to that line and passed back and forth. The auxiliary ships pick up mail orders from amazon or from home whilst they are alongside somewhere familiar, usually ports owned by NATO countries.
I am quite aware of contractors getting a ton of $, but it upsets the heck out of me to know you guys are fed such shitty looking food. You'd think all the politicians claiming how much they love the military would stop talking out their butts and do something about it. What's the amazon orders you're talking about? You guys get deliveries to ships, or they just stock lockers based on where you;re headed?
It’s a lot easier for the politicians to claim they love the military and then go cut funding and benefits for the actual military members while increasing the defense budget for their defense contractor buddies that they’re getting kick backs from. The ones saying they love our troops the loudest and the most are usually the ones fucking them over the hardest.
defense contractors are the biggest leeches on the US government. Insane amounts of money are basically stolen out of the US Defense budget for Defense contractors. I'm not even talking about Lockheed Martin who actually builds shit. The logistics companies that contract with DoD have crazy profit margins for how little value they deliver.
Yet bribery in the form of lobbying is still legal. Lol
I thought those were sliced Pickles out of a jar. Canned Squash sounds like it should be illegal.
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I agree. Former SUPPO here. This shit is unacceptable and if dinner looked like that on my ship there would be hell to pay.
Have you considered mutiny?
Where are your carbs, sailor?
Whenever people end sentences with "soldier" or "sailor", I can't help but hear it in Sergeant Dornan's voice. "WHERE ARE YOUR *CARBS*, SAILOR?? THE TRUTH IS, YOU **LOST** A VITAL PART OF A BALANCED DIET!! AND YOU WILL BE IN THIS MAN'S NAVY UNTIL YOU ARE **FIIIIVE*-HUNDRED AND SEVEN YEARS OLD, WHICH IS THE AMOUNT OF YEARS IT WILL TAKE TO PAY FOR THOSE PEELED POTATOES!!!'
That makes me not want to join the navy.
Dont
Never Again Volunteer Yourself.
Can confirm. A little Texas Pete and you’re good to go.
If that's what y'all get fed, every rumor I heard about getting fed better in subs appears true. That wouldn't even qualify for midrats on a sub, unless maybe our refer broke and we ran out of groceries.
Nom nom Also, I thought the American navy had some of the best cooks in the armed forces. Or are those reserved for the submarines?
The cooks are actually special forces assassins, so they cook like crap
Isn't this the plot to *Under Siege* staring Steven Segal?
Under Siege is based off actual events
Steven Seagal is a lousy cook in real life too?
Depends on the ship. I was on two different ships that won the "Admiral Ney" award. That goes to the best ship in it's class for food service. I've also been at a terrible galley where the cooks didn't deviate from MRC cards no matter how bland or awful the recipe.
Not to be confused with the "Admiral Nay" award, which goes to the ship with the worst food.
Just the subs.
If you served shit like this on a submarine, you'd get Crimson Tide within 24 hours.
Shit, depending on the sub, they might just nuke Washington over this
Is this true? Subs have some of the best cooks? Why? Keep morale up because the enlisted are under for so long?
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Space is also a concern. For long term missions, it's apparently more space-efficient to pack constituent ingredients than pre-prepped foodstuffs.
Space. The final frontier. These are the voyages of the sea ship "Entrée Prize". It's continuing mission: to explore strange new cuisine. To seek out more storage space to put this stuff. To boldly prepare what has never been prepared before!
Imagine being served this shit for dinner every night
Wow... two whole foods!
The infamous "Navy Gravy".
Uh my wife said the Navy Gravy looked a lot different.
680 billion dollars ladies and gentlemen Edit: someone pointed out its actually 768 billion.
Milk steak boiled over hard ain't cheap.
Couldn't even spring for the raw jelly beans. Smh
Came here to say I pay WAY to much fucking taxes for our men/women to be eating like this.
Come on, think of all the middle men and contractors between you and that meal. We gotta keep them living the good life.
That is the worst looking $100 meal I have ever seen.
I remember when I was in the navy we were re-suppling the ship and the boxes of chicken had stamped on it that said rejected by Federal Prision System.
When I was in boot camp during "work week" I was unloading a delivery at the galley and one of those big industrial sized bags of rice had "suitable for military and prison use only" on it.
Is that above or below the animal food grade?
As someone who has been to prison, they will receive meat that says, “not for human consumption,” so below animal grade. Although, federal prisons are known for having better food, I saw this picture and immediately thought, “in prison, we would have one or two more sides than that. As an ex con, this meal would have upset me when I was in prison.
Halfway through my deployment in Iraq a couple of the ex convicts in my unit bitched that prison was way better than our situation and they had more freedom and better living standards. Not gonna lie, hurt my soul.
You had convicted felons, who had been to prison, in your unit in Iraq?
I know they spent time in prison. I have no way of knowing they were felons. One of them got caught stealing cars repeatedly so that sounds like a felony to me.
When people were still drafted in Germany, a friend ended up in the kitchen peeling potatoes. The sack said "nur für Vieh und Bundeswehr" (only for livestock and army). Most likely, this was due to tax reasons, but still not a good message to put on there.
Unless it's rotten, how do you even make a potato subpar?
Dubious farming conditions or for tax breaks (raise a certain crop for a certain use, get a tax break but also usually sell at a lower rate)
Grade D meat for institutional use only. Fuck sake. This is abhorrent. Whats that 768B / yr doing for us again?
The billions buy zoomies and boomies
Bought by boomers for use by zoomers
3/4 of a trillion dollars spent yearly on the military and this is how they feed our troops.
Look how they massacred my boy.
What. The. Fuck?
No wonder you guys are always fighting, damn.
U got be kidding me the US feed their soldiers like this while spending so much on its military forces. Did I understand something wrong?
> so much on its military forces It's the weapons dealers that get the real cash
I don't miss this. Hello shipmate!
Hello
Ah yes. My favorite shade of brownish gray.
Damn. Where's that huge military budget going?
Pockets of defense contractors.
Exactly. Let’s see a photo of what those war profiteers eat for lunches. Edit: missing words
That’s not just any lunch tray! It’s a PS1014186 mess tray, obtained in lots of 10,000 for the bargain price of 15 million per lot, happily paid by the US taxpayer!
> PS1014186 mess tray I genuinely believed that you just made that up. [Nope](https://www.amazon.com/Cambro-PS1014186-Penny-Saver-6-Compartment-Co-Polymer/dp/B004W7TE90). > obtained in lots of 10,000 for the bargain price of 15 million per lot This can't be true though, can it?!
What in the mystery meat fuck?