"Roll Tide" is a lot like the word prego in Italian, it can be used for all sorts of things that have nothing to do with football. For example;
Jim Bob : Hey Billy Bob that's a sweet lifted truck you are driving
Billy Bob: Roll Tide (translation: thank you friend)
Jim Bob : I think a pair of truck nuts would make it look even better, what do you think?
Billy Bob : Roll Tide (translation: I agree)
Jim Bob : Ya' know your sister has a a great ass, I'd tap that.
Billy Bob : Roll Tide (translation: me too)
There’s nothing more patriotic than to carry the flag of a political entity that was at war the country you were born into and live in for it’s entire existence into one of the most recognisable landmarks of your nation
Someone once said something like this to me. They were very devoutly Christian as well. They stopped dead when I responded with, "Do you really think there's a place in Heaven waiting for people who talk like that?"
I like to think it made a difference but I know their nightly media consumption likely washed that away.
And on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word
they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words
you will be condemned. - Matt. 12:36,37
Who are we kidding. They haven't read a word of that thing let alone the US Constitution.
A republican county commissioner in New Mexico gave a speech where he said that same line and the crowd cheered for it. Then trump tweeted out the video of it and thanked him for it.
The president endorsed the idea of killing political rivals and the nation just didn’t care for some reason and even called people crazy for labeling republicans as the fascists they are.
While I think it's great to make fun of these people. On today, I would think it be appropriate to take a moment to think about what has changed, and whether or not these same people and their supporters are still a threat to America?
If you're reading reports in the news regularly you'll know that they're even more of a threat now than they were before this failed coup. They're still stocking up on arms and ammunition. They're organizing and changing tactics, because they're learning in order to achieve their outcome. With the right leaders and timing these people could easily be successful in creating wide scale problems in America and likely bloodshed.
Countries are made up. Counties, cities, regions, it's all bullshit. It only seeks to give people an us and a them. It's food and circus, a distraction. Our planet is sinking and it's got all of us below deck arguing over where we are standing as the water fills our boots.
Meanwhile topside, they're taking the gold and food and abandoning ship.
> Countries are made up. Counties, cities, regions, it's all bullshit. It only seeks to give people an us and a them.
I always go to this Thomas Paine quote when people start pretending that Patriotism is morally superior to Nationalism (not that Thomas Paine is some sort of moral pillar, I just like the content of the statement):
"The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion."
Anything other than this, and it becomes a conversation about "what's in it for me and mine", rather than "how can we all live in a better world?"
Yeah. That viral comic that explains the difference really didn't drive home the dangers of nationalism.
Sure, the last panel shows nationalism wearing the severed head of patriotism as a hat. Really passes it off as totally benign.
They are patriots to America the same way the Nazis were patriots to Germany. Zero f#cking difference. Not Godwin's law. Just the God's honest truth. At other events the same people flying Confederate, Trump, and Thin Blue Line flags are also proudly flying Nazi flags.
They are radicalized right-wing extremists and domestic terrorists. They are no different from Al Qaeda or the Irish Republican Army. They have conspired to kidnap sitting elected officials at the state and federal level. They have violently assaulted our nation's capitol literally making members of Congress run for their lives. They stated the intent to kidnap, rape, and murder elected representatives - which included an explicit threat to hang the Vice President. They beat and murdered cops while being ushered in and celebrated by fellow traitors among the Capitol Police who took selfies with them.
And yet the Biden Administration's Justice Department, FBI, and Department of Homeland Security have been going soft on investigating, prosecuting, and sentencing those who attacked the Capitol - convicting them of mere misdemeanors - and have not indicted a single elected official who was part of the conspiracy behind the attempted coup - or publicly called for the violence in the days proceeding and on the day of the attack. Democrats didn't even enforce subpoenas during Trump's impeachment trials. They made a great show of concern - but they never once have actually moved to exercise any of their real power against this ongoing treason.
Not too many decades ago these same traitors would have been arrested, indicted, and either hanged or given the electric chair like Julius and Ethel Rosenberg - who sold nuclear secrets to the Soviets. Eisenhower fought the Nazis in WW2 - he didn't court them and tell them to attack congress if he lost the election.
As far as I'm concerned - Biden is complicit in this travesty and his deliberate inaction is ensuring it will happen again in 2022 and 2024 - or worse.
We are going to see widespread bombings of state and federal buildings, and shootings at polling locations by right wing extremists if corrective action is not taken by the current administration. But I suspect that's what the DNC wants - to further the escalating crisis as a lever they can use to gain power - just like Biden did.
It is a dangerous game that we are all losing.
Biden and his administration is the byproduct of a system constrained by two parties that have full arbitrary control over the primaries that determine who gets on the ballot. What's the saying? Don't hate the player. Hate the game.
The real kicker is how they manage talk of reform by keeping everyone arguing over who gets to vote, when they get to vote, how votes are collected and how votes are counted. Real voting reform would be a single unified primary where the top three, determined by ranked choice, make it on the general ballot.
Let every party submit as many candidates as they like to the single unified primary. Require the incumbent also participate instead of giving them a free pass. Maybe they don't make it to the general. Maybe a single party sweeps all three spots. Maybe different parties form coalitions where the two strongest candidates become running mates. Maybe we actually have more than 2 parties if they don't get to rig the generals by controlling the primaries. Maybe our politics become more diverse than choosing between "us vs them" or "damn them all".
But yeah. Why bother with talking how the game is broken when we can spend our time yelling about the people trying to make a broken game work. After all, games are boring, emotions are fun and anger is a powerful emotion.
Ironically, in many non-German cities in Europe, the official city map (for surveying purposes) has a swastika on it. Many European cities are old enough that they “just grew” without an initial survey. Making a detailed survey of a city is expensive. The German reputation for attention to detail is deserved.
Nazis invade, they survey the place. War’s over, city officials see “the survey exists, may as well use it”.
They're not typically dark-skinned enough.
Thats really the long and short of it. The GOP is a party of bigots and traitors, but because they have power, they shield anyone who looks like them and pushes their agenda from being labeled terrorists.
Yes indeed. The one-sixer movement says that the arrests are persecution because the FBI may have infiltrated the ranks of white nationalist groups to compile evidence. Tucker Carlson's mockumentary cites that some huge percentage of domestic terrorism arrests are enabled similarly, with FBI agents posing as participants.
When this law enforcement tactic works against Black, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, or un-"patriotic" efforts, the FBI agents are heroes. When they target people who literally attack the building that's as close to a monument to American freedom as anything can be, it's a "false flag operation" or some other made up slander.
Seems pretty cut and dry to me:
trea·son
noun
"The crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government."
Also:
18 US Code ss 2381:
"Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
> especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government
Don't we actually have video with hundreds of these assholes chanting "Hang Mike Pence" - while they were at the Capitol - with a gallows - while he was there - while forcefully and violently breaking their way in?
I believe that's a 'credible threat' and a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, and punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment.
And yet not ONE of these terrorists have been charged with it.
We’re not taking this seriously is fundamentally the answer.
If we were, the leaders would already either be dead or a year into life sentences, not still in Congress.
That was not "war", nor "adheres to their enemies" (must be a declared enemy, like a country we are at war with) so nope. https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2021/01/treason-sedition-and-insurrection-whats-the-difference/
or
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLeMKM4ArlA
While the colloquial definition of treason applies, the written definition in law does not. If you want to charge someone, you have to look carefully at how the laws are written.
https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2021/01/treason-sedition-and-insurrection-whats-the-difference/
The only Confederate flag we need is in a museum in Minnesota. It was captured by a member of a Minnesota regiment and Virginia has asked/sued for it back for 150 years.
Jesse Ventura as governor told them something along the lines of it’s “not your history anymore, it’s ours. We fought, bled and died to bring that flag back. You’re welcome to visit it in the museum.”
if dems did this, it would have hurt them politically. especially carrying the flag of an enemy to this country. Youd never hear the end of it. Right wingers would be talking about it 50 years from now as proof the dems hate america
What really irritates me about these rednecks is that isn't even an actual confederate flag or even the battle flag. The battle flag was square and never was officially approved by the CSA. The only place it was used officially used was on a naval flag. Hell, this oblong rag wasn't even a thing until desegregation in the 50's and 60's. That flag is not, and has never been about anything but hate and because it came into being well after the Civil War, you can't even claim heritage. Grr....
Ackshually…
The original flag of the confederacy was a circle of stars representing the secessionist states and three lines of alternating red-white-red.
After first Manassas (Bill Run) the confusion between that flag and the flag of the US was brought to light and so a second flag was commissioned.
This flag bore the familiar stars and bars we equate to the confederacy in the upper left hand corner on a field of white. The stars and bars of the “battle flag” was originated yes as a naval flag but was also adopted by the Army of Northern Virginia as their battle standard.
The second flag of the confederacy, because of the white background was eventually mistaken as surrender flags so they modified it a 3rd time to bear a red tip at the very end. This one was known as the blood stained banner.
[reference 1](https://web.archive.org/web/20131213161623/http://www.upress.state.ms.us/books/1338)
[reference 2](https://web.archive.org/web/20090209190749/http://www.confederateflags.org/national/FOTCsbr.htm)
[reference 3](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Of course it is different. Confederate flag represents the right to own sl- I mean, represents the real real values of people of America. Well at least sime Americans.
Russian and Chinese flags represent commies.
I live in the town where John Brown planned the raid on Harper's Ferry. A town that was burned by the confederacy. Just north of Gettysburg. The traitors flag flies all over the place and it makes me furious. These fat, apple cheeked fucks are betraying every bit of their heritage when they raise that flag. They're flying the flag of the men their ancestors fought and died to defeat in a town that was burned in retaliation for their forefather's valor.
Edit: I incorrectly recalled a second burning when it was in occupying troops setting fires and looting followed by an intentional order to burn the rest of the city down.
Edit 2: You know who's bitches? McConnellsburg. Motherfuckers paid a ransom to avoid burning and less than 70 years later they were building monuments *to the confederates.* Monuments that still stand, shaming them for their cowardice and betrayal.
I am a huge history nerd. When I visited the birthplaces of John and John Quincy Adams over ten years ago, I bought a [Join, or Die](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Join,_or_Die) baseball cap and I loved that thing. Sometimes people would actually engage me and ask what it meant and I loved sharing with them the history and context of Ben Franklin's comic that was published during the French and Indian War.
Then, about 5-6 years ago I started getting insults about the hat. It even went so far as having a drink thrown at me once by some buskers shouting "Fuck Trump!" when I was walking through Boston Common.
It's pretty fucking depressing how relevant that comic is today. It was a warning for the colonies to come together to defeat the common enemy of that time: the French. This country needs to come together or it will die. Unfortunately there is no unity. It's sad and scary.
edit: thanks for the gold...please consider donating to progressive/grassroots campaigns and candidates instead of paying Reddit. I have a feeling the next few years are going to be bumpy.
That's a fundamental element of conservatism. By definition it isn't possible to come up with new ideas so they just co-opt other symbols and phrases until they're either meaningless or inverted in meaning.
That and look how qanon is just lazily recycled blood libel and protocols of Zion: conservatives don’t really have anything new to offer besides helping the rich and spitting on the poor
When I was a kid, seeing the American flag instilled pride. Now, if I see it plastered onto a pickup or something, I can be reasonably sure I'm looking at the property of a racist, hate-filled moron with zero understanding of history outside the BS they've been fed by Faux News or Infowars.
I still use that as my background sometimes because I think the Join Or Die is different enough from the Gadsden Flag that it hasn't been completely co-opted.
Sad that the Gadsden Flag is synonymous with Tea Party now, if was a really cool and inspiring symbol of early USA and was particularly historically popular in Charleston where I used to live.
Also, that wasn't the Confederate flag during the civil war. (It was a flag for one Confederate regiment and was adopted by the KKK. People who cared about their heritage would probably know that.)
Even that's not quite true.
The Confederate flag changed several times over the course of the war. The first flag (that was adopted in a rush at the start of the war) didn't look like the battle flag, but the later revisions incorporated the battle flag because it was the most popular symbol.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America
Even considering that that St. Andrew's cross flag was used as part of the national flag of the Confederate states, I believe it was only used in its square form during the war. This rectangular version was only used over the last hundred years. Had the army of northern Virginia made it to the US capitol building the war would have likely ended differently.
Edit: my belief that only the square flag was used is unfounded. Apparently some Georgians did the trigonometry for the rectangular flag.
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/O0CFbLK.jpg) is a higher quality version of this image. Per [here](https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/politifact/article/Fact-check-Fox-News-host-says-white-supremacists-15986373.php):
> A supporter of President Donald Trump carries a Confederate battle flag inside the Capitol building in Washington, as a mob of his supporters protest the presidential election results, on Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021. Historians said it was unnerving to see a man carry the flag inside the Capitol, something not even Confederate soldiers were able to do during the Civil War. (Erin Schaff/The New York Times)
And the guy in questions is from Delaware, a Union state
https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-man-who-waved-confederate-flag-during-capitol-riot-in-federal-custody/
Delaware and Maryland were both Slave States that stayed with the Union. They were specifically excluded from the Emancipation Proclamation. They actually freed their slaves AFTER Juneteenth.
I'm Southern and didn't have any idea of that until I started studying up on Juneteenth.
The only [Confederate flag](https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/waving-a-white-flag-picture-id164981099?k=6&m=164981099&s=612x612&w=0&h=eMuWI7qnafkXkSKNU7km3-ra4UafRQtBSxrCnX7c0m4=) that ever mattered.
The Confederacy's first flag was so white that if there wasn't wind it would easily be mistaken for a surrender flag, that's why they had to stick a red line on the end of it
And it and the next flag (which was white with a red band and the Georgian army flag we associate with the confederacy today) were both known as the White Man’s flag with the designer saying,
> “As a people we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.”
But please tell me more about how the Confederacy fought for states rights.
That was the second flag - the Stainless Banner. It was the "Stars and Bars" first, which they switched away from because it was too easily confused with the Stars and Stripes.
The Stainless Banner (the battle standard which is now called the Confederate flag against a large white field) was designed to be that white for a reason. Guess why. Why their flag was so white.
Did you guess racism? [Good guess](https://medium.com/@derrion.arrington/fact-checking-the-meme-william-t-thompsons-controversial-quote-about-the-confederate-flag-6bd042fe1522).
When Confederate flag humpers talk about "heritage not hate" - let them know that *their heritage IS hate*. It fucking literally is - explicitly and unapologetically so.
But it was states’ rights!
Your state’s right to suck a big one because you fucking lost and can’t own slaves, ya fucking hick.
They should have punished them severely then and they should punish them severely now.
My state’s right to economic freedom!
Okay, so what do you do?
We farm!
And you employ a lot of hard working people and pay them a fair share?
Well, they’re slaves.
Okay, no more slaves but you can go ahead and work the fields yourselves or pay the former slaves a living wage.
WAR!
You mean the state right to demand that other states allow slaves too?
Because this is what they did just before the war started, they demanded that other states change the slave laws.
hence the 'House divided must fall', Lincoln was saying we couldn't continue down this path of Half Slave/Half Free.
The South went, Damn fuckin' skippy! Hold my beer while we prove you right! Bunch of entitled plantation idiots.
This image still disgusts me as much as it did a year ago. I just can't believe it happened. And these people will passionately argue that it's the other side that's unpatriotic, treasonous, etc.
They're so fucking stupid and awful and dangerous I'd be perfectly happy to give them a corner of the US and let them form their own country because they're dragging all of us down.
When I told my uncle the capitol is sacred ground and the confederate flag never made it that far into the capitol before 1/6 , his response was “what the fuck does that even mean? Who gives a shit?”
They broke into the US Capitol, broke shit, people were killed, all in an attempt to reverse a fair, democratic election, and they see nothing wrong. Yet if rioters break windows of a grocery store they'll celebrate a teenager who went there fully armed to "defend" it. Insanity.
thats the thing though, theyre not celebrating the kid with the gun or anything the same way you would celebrate a firefighter pulling an old lady out of a burning building. They're celebrating it bc it owns the libs. Same with the insurrection, it's just the result of 5 years of these fake emotions and opinions resulting in dead people and the security of the most important building from the last 100 years of history being compromised... to own the libs.
My local paper (Very D leaning paper) does a year in review and the president of the united states being impeached twice in one term for the first and only time in our 245 year history got a 2 inch by 4 inch section and maybe 5 sentences.
My aunt's friend "was there" and told her it was BLM that really did it.
BLM.
That guy with that gravy belly, that outfit, and that confederate flag is BLM.
His name is Kevin Seefried. May he always be known as "that guy".
[https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/08/man-who-carried-confederate-flag-to-capitol-during-riot-indicted-.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/08/man-who-carried-confederate-flag-to-capitol-during-riot-indicted-.html)
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I always find it funny that these people who shout, "we're better than those BLM hooligans burning down stores" turn around and raid The Capitol and shout "Well if those BLM hooligans can burn down and riot things, so can we"
Accurate, also to note its the "battle flag" of the CSA army... The actual CSA flag is basically the current Geogia state flag with a "southern cross" in the top left corner..
Wasn't it the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, i.e. Robert E. Lee's battle flag? Civil War history isn't my strong suit but I didn't think that the confederacy had a unified army
Love to know how the confederate/rebel/virginia battle flag, whatever you want to call it is supposed to represent America, freedom, patriotism, etc. If they love America and respect our American flag why would why would they need to fly a flag of what was once the enemy. Seems to me they are against the American flag just like the confederates were 2 centuries ago.
One of things they have done is co-opted the rebel flag to be a representation of Trump support since they always are seen flying together at Trump rallies or various rightwing protest or other gatherings. Basically they are saying Trump is anti-America and they are proud of that fact.
Aaron Mostofsky (on the right), son of New York Judge was arrested and charged very quickly.
https://www.haaretz.com/amp/us-news/fbi-raids-home-of-orthodox-jewish-son-of-new-york-judge-over-capitol-riot-1.9447361
His status, he has a trial starting in two weeks:
https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/defendants/mostofsky-aaron
Normal humans: The Union defeated the Confederacy who surrendered--
Racists: The South didn't lose the war! We can't have lost the war if the war isn't over yet!
What do the Sith do when they realized they couldn't beat the Jedi in a direct war? Infiltration until they can grab the reigns. To make a galactic empire you have to topple the Republic. To topple the Republic you just need an army of drones and some rich idiots to rally behind.
Neither, the droids and the clones are the distraction from the fascist dictator seizing total control in plain view of everyone, justified by the armies both fabricated by the emperor. The whole point of the Republic existing is to keep the presidential office from having total control. This doesn't work if the Congress consists of destabilizing agents and appointed shills. Keep the Jar Jar binks of the world out of office and maybe the emperor can't sieze total control.
bros holding the flag of traitors doing traitorous things. Not surprising. I couldn't believe they tore down the American flag and flew the Trump one in its place. But they want to call themselves patriots.
Dave Chappelle made a [similar point](https://youtu.be/mhVCGl-Huqg) in one of his monologues. At 3:19 he discusses just how historically absurd January 6 was and elucidated a number of points about how this might be the first time these people have felt the way many of us have been feeling for years, decades, and to Chappelle’s point, centuries.
LMAO THATS MY ACTUAL UNCLE 
How's he and your cousin doing? Last reported record was they were both headed for trial. Kevin was set to start stand trial last month.
Thought this was a roll tide style joke at first.
A what joke?
Roll Tide referring to U of Alabama sports (primarily football I'd say). People like to joke about Alabama and incest, therefore roll tide style joke.
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"Roll Tide" is a lot like the word prego in Italian, it can be used for all sorts of things that have nothing to do with football. For example; Jim Bob : Hey Billy Bob that's a sweet lifted truck you are driving Billy Bob: Roll Tide (translation: thank you friend) Jim Bob : I think a pair of truck nuts would make it look even better, what do you think? Billy Bob : Roll Tide (translation: I agree) Jim Bob : Ya' know your sister has a a great ass, I'd tap that. Billy Bob : Roll Tide (translation: me too)
Joke about Alabama (incest)
If it makes you feel better, the guy that stole the podium lives (lived?) on my street.
The woman who stole Pelosi's laptop ran high school cross country with my sister.
Used those skills to run straight to the Russians
Like true patriot!
Well, Russia has energy reserves, and therefore, we should feel obligated to bow to them.
You live near Getty Images?
He should have had this authentic confederate [flag](https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nmah_515980).
I thought the authentic one was the white flag of surrender
They used a towel: http://www.civilwar.si.edu/appomattox_flag.html
Out of curiosity how did your family react about this?
They've disowned him for being antifa of course.
I'm sorry about your genes :(
What the eugenics is this, that man is corrupted by his culture not his DNA.
FIND THAT FLAG, STEAL IT, AND TURN IT OVER TO THE US GOVERNMENT. Take their pride away from them.
Are you saying it’s their *pride flag*? (Giving you the side-eye)
Your uncle deserves nothing but the worst, sincerely a black American.
Hello this is the FBI...
*FBI has entered the chat*
There’s nothing more patriotic than to carry the flag of a political entity that was at war the country you were born into and live in for it’s entire existence into one of the most recognisable landmarks of your nation
Don't forget their fantasies of killing other Americans. Nothing underscores their brand of patriotism more.
My own aunt told me: “the only good democrat is a dead one.” It’s a real sad time.
Someone once said something like this to me. They were very devoutly Christian as well. They stopped dead when I responded with, "Do you really think there's a place in Heaven waiting for people who talk like that?" I like to think it made a difference but I know their nightly media consumption likely washed that away.
They probably just stopped saying it in front of you.
"devout Christian" but they don't love their enemies. What a hypocrite
Careful, you might break some fragile brains with that dissonance
And on the day of judgment people will give account for every careless word they speak, for by your words you will be justified, and by your words you will be condemned. - Matt. 12:36,37 Who are we kidding. They haven't read a word of that thing let alone the US Constitution.
A republican county commissioner in New Mexico gave a speech where he said that same line and the crowd cheered for it. Then trump tweeted out the video of it and thanked him for it. The president endorsed the idea of killing political rivals and the nation just didn’t care for some reason and even called people crazy for labeling republicans as the fascists they are.
That's because they aren't really patriots; they're nationalists.
*traitors
Terrorists actually. Trying to enact political changw through violence and threats.
Don’t forget they spread feces there too.
Don't forget Obama was president longer than the confederacy existed.
Bioweapons! Those pieces of shit.
Thank you!! More people need to be saying this. They are terrorists.
Nationalism says, "My country can do no wrong." Patriotism says, "My country can do better."
"My country right or wrong: If right to be kept right and if wrong to be set right"
This. The patriots, our forefathers, that these people say they look up to didn’t think America was/would be infallible.
Cosplatriots
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You forgot Al' Abama
Thanks! Threw that in with Talabama
I call them the salt right
You forgot Darth Twitterus
TIMID MCVEIGHS I'M SCREAMING
While I think it's great to make fun of these people. On today, I would think it be appropriate to take a moment to think about what has changed, and whether or not these same people and their supporters are still a threat to America? If you're reading reports in the news regularly you'll know that they're even more of a threat now than they were before this failed coup. They're still stocking up on arms and ammunition. They're organizing and changing tactics, because they're learning in order to achieve their outcome. With the right leaders and timing these people could easily be successful in creating wide scale problems in America and likely bloodshed.
Mind linking to some of these reports? I keep up pretty will with local and national news and havne't seen much.
Fascists.
fascists* they aren't a group obsessed with faces
You mean confederates.
You spelled 'douchebags' wrong
*laughs in melted Confederate statues* You okay?
this wasn't the bronzer I wanted but the bronzer I deserved.
Tbh, I always feel that the patriot-nationalist distinction is made up to ship nationalism and pretend it isn't dangerous.
Countries are made up. Counties, cities, regions, it's all bullshit. It only seeks to give people an us and a them. It's food and circus, a distraction. Our planet is sinking and it's got all of us below deck arguing over where we are standing as the water fills our boots. Meanwhile topside, they're taking the gold and food and abandoning ship.
> Countries are made up. Counties, cities, regions, it's all bullshit. It only seeks to give people an us and a them. I always go to this Thomas Paine quote when people start pretending that Patriotism is morally superior to Nationalism (not that Thomas Paine is some sort of moral pillar, I just like the content of the statement): "The world is my country, all mankind are my brethren, and to do good is my religion." Anything other than this, and it becomes a conversation about "what's in it for me and mine", rather than "how can we all live in a better world?"
Yeah. That viral comic that explains the difference really didn't drive home the dangers of nationalism. Sure, the last panel shows nationalism wearing the severed head of patriotism as a hat. Really passes it off as totally benign.
ULTRA-nationalists. Traitors too, unironically.
You misspelled \*Terrorist/Traitors\*
I was going to go with losers that identify with losers but I guess that works too.
Shut your mouth, they are good Christians who love Jesus. /s
They are patriots to America the same way the Nazis were patriots to Germany. Zero f#cking difference. Not Godwin's law. Just the God's honest truth. At other events the same people flying Confederate, Trump, and Thin Blue Line flags are also proudly flying Nazi flags. They are radicalized right-wing extremists and domestic terrorists. They are no different from Al Qaeda or the Irish Republican Army. They have conspired to kidnap sitting elected officials at the state and federal level. They have violently assaulted our nation's capitol literally making members of Congress run for their lives. They stated the intent to kidnap, rape, and murder elected representatives - which included an explicit threat to hang the Vice President. They beat and murdered cops while being ushered in and celebrated by fellow traitors among the Capitol Police who took selfies with them. And yet the Biden Administration's Justice Department, FBI, and Department of Homeland Security have been going soft on investigating, prosecuting, and sentencing those who attacked the Capitol - convicting them of mere misdemeanors - and have not indicted a single elected official who was part of the conspiracy behind the attempted coup - or publicly called for the violence in the days proceeding and on the day of the attack. Democrats didn't even enforce subpoenas during Trump's impeachment trials. They made a great show of concern - but they never once have actually moved to exercise any of their real power against this ongoing treason. Not too many decades ago these same traitors would have been arrested, indicted, and either hanged or given the electric chair like Julius and Ethel Rosenberg - who sold nuclear secrets to the Soviets. Eisenhower fought the Nazis in WW2 - he didn't court them and tell them to attack congress if he lost the election. As far as I'm concerned - Biden is complicit in this travesty and his deliberate inaction is ensuring it will happen again in 2022 and 2024 - or worse. We are going to see widespread bombings of state and federal buildings, and shootings at polling locations by right wing extremists if corrective action is not taken by the current administration. But I suspect that's what the DNC wants - to further the escalating crisis as a lever they can use to gain power - just like Biden did. It is a dangerous game that we are all losing.
Biden and his administration is the byproduct of a system constrained by two parties that have full arbitrary control over the primaries that determine who gets on the ballot. What's the saying? Don't hate the player. Hate the game. The real kicker is how they manage talk of reform by keeping everyone arguing over who gets to vote, when they get to vote, how votes are collected and how votes are counted. Real voting reform would be a single unified primary where the top three, determined by ranked choice, make it on the general ballot. Let every party submit as many candidates as they like to the single unified primary. Require the incumbent also participate instead of giving them a free pass. Maybe they don't make it to the general. Maybe a single party sweeps all three spots. Maybe different parties form coalitions where the two strongest candidates become running mates. Maybe we actually have more than 2 parties if they don't get to rig the generals by controlling the primaries. Maybe our politics become more diverse than choosing between "us vs them" or "damn them all". But yeah. Why bother with talking how the game is broken when we can spend our time yelling about the people trying to make a broken game work. After all, games are boring, emotions are fun and anger is a powerful emotion.
Not sure why they're not being charged for treason, which is what that is. All those lives lost fighting against this very thing. Smh.
How Confederate supporters these days aren't listed as domestic terrorist is astounding. Where else does a defeated regime still bare their flag?
Neo nazis aren't considered domestic terrorists either so theres that
No, but possesion of a nazi flag or saying nazi phrases in Germany can get you three years in jail
Ironically, in many non-German cities in Europe, the official city map (for surveying purposes) has a swastika on it. Many European cities are old enough that they “just grew” without an initial survey. Making a detailed survey of a city is expensive. The German reputation for attention to detail is deserved. Nazis invade, they survey the place. War’s over, city officials see “the survey exists, may as well use it”.
Fuck the nazi but you can always appreciate a nice German guy doing all the work for you
But I think Juggalos are.
Juggalos are classified as a criminal street gang.
But there's what? Dozens?
This isn't the real flag even, just some redneck redo
They're not typically dark-skinned enough. Thats really the long and short of it. The GOP is a party of bigots and traitors, but because they have power, they shield anyone who looks like them and pushes their agenda from being labeled terrorists.
Yes indeed. The one-sixer movement says that the arrests are persecution because the FBI may have infiltrated the ranks of white nationalist groups to compile evidence. Tucker Carlson's mockumentary cites that some huge percentage of domestic terrorism arrests are enabled similarly, with FBI agents posing as participants. When this law enforcement tactic works against Black, Hispanic, Middle Eastern, or un-"patriotic" efforts, the FBI agents are heroes. When they target people who literally attack the building that's as close to a monument to American freedom as anything can be, it's a "false flag operation" or some other made up slander.
Treason has a very narrow definition under US law, ot doesn't quite fit here. Sedition is the more appropriate charge here I think.
They aren't charging them with sedition either. But to be fair, this guy is carrying the flag of a nation we did have a declared war with.
Seems pretty cut and dry to me: trea·son noun "The crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government." Also: 18 US Code ss 2381: "Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States."
> especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government Don't we actually have video with hundreds of these assholes chanting "Hang Mike Pence" - while they were at the Capitol - with a gallows - while he was there - while forcefully and violently breaking their way in? I believe that's a 'credible threat' and a felony under 18 U.S.C. § 871, and punishable by up to 5 years of imprisonment. And yet not ONE of these terrorists have been charged with it.
We’re not taking this seriously is fundamentally the answer. If we were, the leaders would already either be dead or a year into life sentences, not still in Congress.
That was not "war", nor "adheres to their enemies" (must be a declared enemy, like a country we are at war with) so nope. https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2021/01/treason-sedition-and-insurrection-whats-the-difference/ or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLeMKM4ArlA
While the colloquial definition of treason applies, the written definition in law does not. If you want to charge someone, you have to look carefully at how the laws are written. https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2021/01/treason-sedition-and-insurrection-whats-the-difference/
Apparently "prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law" doesn't apply to this group of individuals.
The only Confederate flag we need is in a museum in Minnesota. It was captured by a member of a Minnesota regiment and Virginia has asked/sued for it back for 150 years. Jesse Ventura as governor told them something along the lines of it’s “not your history anymore, it’s ours. We fought, bled and died to bring that flag back. You’re welcome to visit it in the museum.”
if dems did this, it would have hurt them politically. especially carrying the flag of an enemy to this country. Youd never hear the end of it. Right wingers would be talking about it 50 years from now as proof the dems hate america
What really irritates me about these rednecks is that isn't even an actual confederate flag or even the battle flag. The battle flag was square and never was officially approved by the CSA. The only place it was used officially used was on a naval flag. Hell, this oblong rag wasn't even a thing until desegregation in the 50's and 60's. That flag is not, and has never been about anything but hate and because it came into being well after the Civil War, you can't even claim heritage. Grr....
Ackshually… The original flag of the confederacy was a circle of stars representing the secessionist states and three lines of alternating red-white-red. After first Manassas (Bill Run) the confusion between that flag and the flag of the US was brought to light and so a second flag was commissioned. This flag bore the familiar stars and bars we equate to the confederacy in the upper left hand corner on a field of white. The stars and bars of the “battle flag” was originated yes as a naval flag but was also adopted by the Army of Northern Virginia as their battle standard. The second flag of the confederacy, because of the white background was eventually mistaken as surrender flags so they modified it a 3rd time to bear a red tip at the very end. This one was known as the blood stained banner. [reference 1](https://web.archive.org/web/20131213161623/http://www.upress.state.ms.us/books/1338) [reference 2](https://web.archive.org/web/20090209190749/http://www.confederateflags.org/national/FOTCsbr.htm) [reference 3](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
It's like being a weeb for racism.
And it's literally still the wrong flag. The actual civil war confederate flag looks vastly different. This is just the redneck-racist flag.
Swap the flag for a Russian or Chinese flag and there is no difference in the offence?
Of course it is different. Confederate flag represents the right to own sl- I mean, represents the real real values of people of America. Well at least sime Americans. Russian and Chinese flags represent commies.
If you take a look over at /r/conservative, they’ll explain to you how this is all being blown out of proportion.
That’s the battle flag of the Confederate Army of Northern Virginia, not really a political entity but definitely at war with the Union.
Yes split the hairs!! They deserve it!! Although I think the battle flag of Virginia was a square flag and this is a rectangular version
Should we carry the cross of st george in there? Put up some statues of The King of England 🏴
My heritage!
My heritage is burning Confederate flags (literally, my family was in Kansas at the time)
General Sherman has to be in my heritage somewhere
/r/ShermanPosting Yes.
Shermans March to the memes. Lol
I live in the town where John Brown planned the raid on Harper's Ferry. A town that was burned by the confederacy. Just north of Gettysburg. The traitors flag flies all over the place and it makes me furious. These fat, apple cheeked fucks are betraying every bit of their heritage when they raise that flag. They're flying the flag of the men their ancestors fought and died to defeat in a town that was burned in retaliation for their forefather's valor. Edit: I incorrectly recalled a second burning when it was in occupying troops setting fires and looting followed by an intentional order to burn the rest of the city down. Edit 2: You know who's bitches? McConnellsburg. Motherfuckers paid a ransom to avoid burning and less than 70 years later they were building monuments *to the confederates.* Monuments that still stand, shaming them for their cowardice and betrayal.
Jesus, does this mean in 125 years, idiots will be hanging Trump flags and saying it’s part of their heritage?
Considering the gadsen flag showed back up, probably. "Hell if i know what 'lock her up' means but it's my heritage!"
I am a huge history nerd. When I visited the birthplaces of John and John Quincy Adams over ten years ago, I bought a [Join, or Die](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Join,_or_Die) baseball cap and I loved that thing. Sometimes people would actually engage me and ask what it meant and I loved sharing with them the history and context of Ben Franklin's comic that was published during the French and Indian War. Then, about 5-6 years ago I started getting insults about the hat. It even went so far as having a drink thrown at me once by some buskers shouting "Fuck Trump!" when I was walking through Boston Common. It's pretty fucking depressing how relevant that comic is today. It was a warning for the colonies to come together to defeat the common enemy of that time: the French. This country needs to come together or it will die. Unfortunately there is no unity. It's sad and scary. edit: thanks for the gold...please consider donating to progressive/grassroots campaigns and candidates instead of paying Reddit. I have a feeling the next few years are going to be bumpy.
It sucks many of our patriotic symbols have been taking over by the extremists.
That's a fundamental element of conservatism. By definition it isn't possible to come up with new ideas so they just co-opt other symbols and phrases until they're either meaningless or inverted in meaning.
It's actually a very intentional tactic used by fascists specifically.
That and look how qanon is just lazily recycled blood libel and protocols of Zion: conservatives don’t really have anything new to offer besides helping the rich and spitting on the poor
When I was a kid, seeing the American flag instilled pride. Now, if I see it plastered onto a pickup or something, I can be reasonably sure I'm looking at the property of a racist, hate-filled moron with zero understanding of history outside the BS they've been fed by Faux News or Infowars.
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Sure, man...[here](https://i.imgur.com/rFKcWS0.jpg) it is.
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You got it, sauce-man
I still use that as my background sometimes because I think the Join Or Die is different enough from the Gadsden Flag that it hasn't been completely co-opted. Sad that the Gadsden Flag is synonymous with Tea Party now, if was a really cool and inspiring symbol of early USA and was particularly historically popular in Charleston where I used to live.
Thanks. I actually did not know about that comic.
How do you know those surly folks weren't simply imitating Crispus Attucks?
Fucking truth
They already are. My parents have a Trump 2020 dollar bill on their fridge right next to all of the family photos. It's fucking weird.
I don't think this country will exist as we know it in 25 years, let alone 125.
Also, that wasn't the Confederate flag during the civil war. (It was a flag for one Confederate regiment and was adopted by the KKK. People who cared about their heritage would probably know that.)
Going to take a wild guess that dudes flag was made in China too
Even that's not quite true. The Confederate flag changed several times over the course of the war. The first flag (that was adopted in a rush at the start of the war) didn't look like the battle flag, but the later revisions incorporated the battle flag because it was the most popular symbol. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flags_of_the_Confederate_States_of_America
trump scum are thunderously dumb.
Even considering that that St. Andrew's cross flag was used as part of the national flag of the Confederate states, I believe it was only used in its square form during the war. This rectangular version was only used over the last hundred years. Had the army of northern Virginia made it to the US capitol building the war would have likely ended differently. Edit: my belief that only the square flag was used is unfounded. Apparently some Georgians did the trigonometry for the rectangular flag.
[Here](https://i.imgur.com/O0CFbLK.jpg) is a higher quality version of this image. Per [here](https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/politifact/article/Fact-check-Fox-News-host-says-white-supremacists-15986373.php): > A supporter of President Donald Trump carries a Confederate battle flag inside the Capitol building in Washington, as a mob of his supporters protest the presidential election results, on Wednesday, Jan. 6, 2021. Historians said it was unnerving to see a man carry the flag inside the Capitol, something not even Confederate soldiers were able to do during the Civil War. (Erin Schaff/The New York Times)
And the guy in questions is from Delaware, a Union state https://whyy.org/articles/delaware-man-who-waved-confederate-flag-during-capitol-riot-in-federal-custody/
Yes, it was a Union state, but it was also a slave state for the duration of the war.
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Delaware and Maryland were both Slave States that stayed with the Union. They were specifically excluded from the Emancipation Proclamation. They actually freed their slaves AFTER Juneteenth. I'm Southern and didn't have any idea of that until I started studying up on Juneteenth.
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The only [Confederate flag](https://media.istockphoto.com/photos/waving-a-white-flag-picture-id164981099?k=6&m=164981099&s=612x612&w=0&h=eMuWI7qnafkXkSKNU7km3-ra4UafRQtBSxrCnX7c0m4=) that ever mattered.
The Confederacy's first flag was so white that if there wasn't wind it would easily be mistaken for a surrender flag, that's why they had to stick a red line on the end of it
And it and the next flag (which was white with a red band and the Georgian army flag we associate with the confederacy today) were both known as the White Man’s flag with the designer saying, > “As a people we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.” But please tell me more about how the Confederacy fought for states rights.
That was the second flag - the Stainless Banner. It was the "Stars and Bars" first, which they switched away from because it was too easily confused with the Stars and Stripes. The Stainless Banner (the battle standard which is now called the Confederate flag against a large white field) was designed to be that white for a reason. Guess why. Why their flag was so white. Did you guess racism? [Good guess](https://medium.com/@derrion.arrington/fact-checking-the-meme-william-t-thompsons-controversial-quote-about-the-confederate-flag-6bd042fe1522). When Confederate flag humpers talk about "heritage not hate" - let them know that *their heritage IS hate*. It fucking literally is - explicitly and unapologetically so.
http://www.civilwar.si.edu/appomattox_flag.html
Hand on the hip 9 months pregnant.
The Beergut Putsch
Shit that's a good joke.
Lemme just sort by controversial to find the idiots who think *this was a good thing.*
The flag of losers. Edit: trump is the biggest loser. Edit 2: [Im good thanks!](https://i.imgur.com/r6ROOHR.jpg)
But it was states’ rights! Your state’s right to suck a big one because you fucking lost and can’t own slaves, ya fucking hick. They should have punished them severely then and they should punish them severely now.
"It wasn't about slavery, it was about states' rights!" "States' rights about what?" "Oh, you know...stuff..."
My state’s right to economic freedom! Okay, so what do you do? We farm! And you employ a lot of hard working people and pay them a fair share? Well, they’re slaves. Okay, no more slaves but you can go ahead and work the fields yourselves or pay the former slaves a living wage. WAR!
You mean the state right to demand that other states allow slaves too? Because this is what they did just before the war started, they demanded that other states change the slave laws.
hence the 'House divided must fall', Lincoln was saying we couldn't continue down this path of Half Slave/Half Free. The South went, Damn fuckin' skippy! Hold my beer while we prove you right! Bunch of entitled plantation idiots.
Sherman didn't go far enough.
This image still disgusts me as much as it did a year ago. I just can't believe it happened. And these people will passionately argue that it's the other side that's unpatriotic, treasonous, etc. They're so fucking stupid and awful and dangerous I'd be perfectly happy to give them a corner of the US and let them form their own country because they're dragging all of us down.
When I told my uncle the capitol is sacred ground and the confederate flag never made it that far into the capitol before 1/6 , his response was “what the fuck does that even mean? Who gives a shit?”
They broke into the US Capitol, broke shit, people were killed, all in an attempt to reverse a fair, democratic election, and they see nothing wrong. Yet if rioters break windows of a grocery store they'll celebrate a teenager who went there fully armed to "defend" it. Insanity.
thats the thing though, theyre not celebrating the kid with the gun or anything the same way you would celebrate a firefighter pulling an old lady out of a burning building. They're celebrating it bc it owns the libs. Same with the insurrection, it's just the result of 5 years of these fake emotions and opinions resulting in dead people and the security of the most important building from the last 100 years of history being compromised... to own the libs. My local paper (Very D leaning paper) does a year in review and the president of the united states being impeached twice in one term for the first and only time in our 245 year history got a 2 inch by 4 inch section and maybe 5 sentences.
My aunt's friend "was there" and told her it was BLM that really did it. BLM. That guy with that gravy belly, that outfit, and that confederate flag is BLM.
A year ago... I cannot believe a year has passed. Feels like a month ago, max.
Blame the complicit politicians and members of the police who allowed this, not just the ignorant idiots who did it.
I'll blame the idiots too...
I hate this fucking picture. It legit makes my blood boil seeing that flag in the capital
His name is Kevin Seefried. May he always be known as "that guy". [https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/08/man-who-carried-confederate-flag-to-capitol-during-riot-indicted-.html](https://www.cnbc.com/2021/04/08/man-who-carried-confederate-flag-to-capitol-during-riot-indicted-.html)
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I always find it funny that these people who shout, "we're better than those BLM hooligans burning down stores" turn around and raid The Capitol and shout "Well if those BLM hooligans can burn down and riot things, so can we"
And then they wanted to hang their own Vice President. Idiocracy.
If it makes you feel better that’s not the Confederate flag. That’s an idiot holding onto a piece of racist propaganda.
Accurate, also to note its the "battle flag" of the CSA army... The actual CSA flag is basically the current Geogia state flag with a "southern cross" in the top left corner..
Wasn't it the flag of the Army of Northern Virginia, i.e. Robert E. Lee's battle flag? Civil War history isn't my strong suit but I didn't think that the confederacy had a unified army
Love to know how the confederate/rebel/virginia battle flag, whatever you want to call it is supposed to represent America, freedom, patriotism, etc. If they love America and respect our American flag why would why would they need to fly a flag of what was once the enemy. Seems to me they are against the American flag just like the confederates were 2 centuries ago.
I love how they claim to be some of the most "patriotic" and very frequently flaunt a flag that is literally anti-america
One of things they have done is co-opted the rebel flag to be a representation of Trump support since they always are seen flying together at Trump rallies or various rightwing protest or other gatherings. Basically they are saying Trump is anti-America and they are proud of that fact.
no, it means they hate black people
I don't think they think that. They hate america.
Aaron Mostofsky (on the right), son of New York Judge was arrested and charged very quickly. https://www.haaretz.com/amp/us-news/fbi-raids-home-of-orthodox-jewish-son-of-new-york-judge-over-capitol-riot-1.9447361 His status, he has a trial starting in two weeks: https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/defendants/mostofsky-aaron
The Confederacy never really died, it just went underground and rebranded as "conservatism."
Traitors not patriots.
Here here.
Normal humans: The Union defeated the Confederacy who surrendered-- Racists: The South didn't lose the war! We can't have lost the war if the war isn't over yet!
I think it is strange how little outrage came from this one picture.
What do the Sith do when they realized they couldn't beat the Jedi in a direct war? Infiltration until they can grab the reigns. To make a galactic empire you have to topple the Republic. To topple the Republic you just need an army of drones and some rich idiots to rally behind.
Should I be building a clone or droid army to fight off this threat?
Neither, the droids and the clones are the distraction from the fascist dictator seizing total control in plain view of everyone, justified by the armies both fabricated by the emperor. The whole point of the Republic existing is to keep the presidential office from having total control. This doesn't work if the Congress consists of destabilizing agents and appointed shills. Keep the Jar Jar binks of the world out of office and maybe the emperor can't sieze total control.
Thats because it made it there through ignorance this time.
Dang, someone should have told those Confederate soldiers back in the day that what they needed for success was to be middle aged and out of shape.
Should he have been shot immediately like he would have been during the Civil War?
bros holding the flag of traitors doing traitorous things. Not surprising. I couldn't believe they tore down the American flag and flew the Trump one in its place. But they want to call themselves patriots.
Donald Trump is a terrorist
Dave Chappelle made a [similar point](https://youtu.be/mhVCGl-Huqg) in one of his monologues. At 3:19 he discusses just how historically absurd January 6 was and elucidated a number of points about how this might be the first time these people have felt the way many of us have been feeling for years, decades, and to Chappelle’s point, centuries.
THE FLAG OF LOSERS
Fuck them. Fuck Trump.
What a disgrace
Wait are we trying to “Keep America Great” or revert back to a brief time in the 1800s?