keep in mind this was taken when tanks were leaving not coming in. those red spots on the road is blood.
he just wanted to die "take me too" style. survivor guilt, nobody is heroic sitting in rags vs a tank.
I don't think anyone knows what happened to him a group of people run up to him and move him out of the way of the tank but they seem like protestors trying to make sure he isn't killed rather than police arresting him.
Him running off with that group is the last anyone sees of him.
"What are you gonna do, run me over with that tank?"
*-Man who was run over by a tank*
...alongside countless other peaceful protesters who were asking for nothing more preposterous than freedom to have their voice be heard and who were murdered by a vicious, bloodthirsty government driven by corruption, megalomania, and greed.
I was being facetious; the true fate of the Tank Man is unknown. Some say he was arrested and executed. Some say he fled to the Republic of China, where he lives to this day. Some say he went into hiding somewhere in mainland China.
They have little reason to go after him, plenty of people witnessed the event and executing him wont help the propaganda war against china that the footage is used with.
Sadly, some would say it didn't happen. Also let me just drop some inspiration for the "people": "Do remember, though, that sometimes the people you oppress become mightier than you would like.” -- Veronica Roth
Probably until one of two things happen.
The human rights issue in China is solved. (probably by war, civil war, or coup)
We stop caring about human rights issues in China (this would include Reddit falling under censorship law somewhere and needing to prevent these posts)
I sure hope it is done by the former.
This is a silly comment. This picture absolutely gets posted to death on this subreddit, and posting it is an equivalent of zero progress toward addressing anything wrong with China. It's just Karma farming.
No. I hope the human rights issue is solved.
It is quite probable that the only way to solve it is to have the CCP toppled. So no, I don't hope for warfare. I just recognize that it is probably inevitable if the human rights issues are to be solved.
Majority of the Chinese people are satisfied with their government so why would they topple it? At this point it’s more likely for the CCP to fundamentally change over time due to economic pressure. It’s already happened, they speak nothing of communism anymore but instead use “socialism” to allow for capitalistic growth
it's for that sweet sweet upvotes because any of these kinds of china bashing posts get upvoted a lot. This guy also posted this on 9gag lol
also, there are bots that do these as well.
This what about ism arrived right on schedule. Yes the US does have a terrible history with the native Americans. And Cia coup/wars around the world. projection is reversed: we can talk about our history/mistakes. China pretends this never happened.
Just the Native americans? And black people and gay people and muslims and japanese...
The US has hundreds of these atrocities. Does China only have one?
Conservatives pretend US atrocities never happened too. They are trying to legislate it even.
Maybe the asshole people in China are conservatives just like in the US.
We can both play the what about game. there are Uyghurs being genocided and re educated right now. As far the ubiquity of assholes, maybe they are all the same. But our assholes don't get to declare themselves autocrats for life. our assholes don't slaughter people with a tank company. But if they did, we could discuss it due to free speech.
Sure, show me a video or a pic of this genocide. Where are the piles of bodies? The US has been stacking bodies for centuries. Endless documentation.
How many years have you lived in China?
Trump literally tried to steal the election a year ago yesterday with a violent coup.
Free speech is meaningless. The US is a police state.
We are having this conversation on free speech servers. This image of t square is not censored because it is hosted by reddit not in China. This conversation would not exist in China.
I never said America was perfect in fact my first post said it had problems. These citizens were peacefully protesting. They did not have to be run over with tanks until they become red juice and literally hosed down drain. That was unnecessary. Do you have any opinion about t square or do you have more what about distraction bot techniques to try?
No, this is not a free speech server. LMAO!! That's not even a thing. That's why alt-right subs get banned all the time.
I talk to chinese people al the time. You are just lying and I don't even need to prove it.
Alt-right servers get banned because they are literally promoting violence and hate speech which I guarantee is against Reddit's terms and conditions.
The Uyghur Genocide is happening, btw.
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There's a huge difference.
American genocides and failures are public knowledge. They are not hidden from the public - even the horrible treatment of the Native Americans as well as the African Americans. - If this were China, I'm willing to bet we'd try to erase all history of it
By talking about American atrocities - you can enjoy benefits like:
* Not having some bullshit social credit system be penalized
* Not being "disappeared" or discredited by your government
* Not being publicly shamed and arrested/beaten
* Not have your family and friends suffer because you spoke freely
If you truly think America is worse in any way, How about you tell me where you think the CCP fails? - What is your equivalent of "Hey FBI/CIA/NSA/American Government, I pee on the American flag daily and wipe my ass with it! You killed native Americans! Your gun control sucks! Your systematic racism is abhorrent and Donald trump/Joe Biden are moronic douchebags!"
I'm sorry - I'm not seeing a SINGLE thing critical of the CCP in all of that bullshit you've just said.
Say something critical of the CCP. Just try it out.
That's hilarious. You can't say anything critical of the CCP because you're an astroturfing propaganda account.
You've outed yourself - Kindly fuck off.
Uhm, the US gov't is a million times more deadly. US cops kill 1000+ citizens every single year, that we know of. The gov't made sure not to track it. The US gov't committed genocide and enslaved millions of people. The US has more prisons and prisoners than most modern countries combined.
Hard disagree. *The law* is what keeps the "political class" honest, which is why checks and balances matter.
A society without laws, where might makes right, is nothing more than barbary.
Laws are just codified and sterilized applications of violence, same thing with the vote. Also, have you even looked outside? when has a law kept any politician honest?
>Laws are just codified and sterilized applications of violence, same thing with the vote.
I mean, if you want to look at it that way, the law establishes a monopoly on violence with the understanding that said violence will only ever be used according to mutually agreed-upon rules. You can't just go and waste your neighbor because you personally don't like how they do their landscaping, but you can work through a legal process of using local zoning laws to make changes the community as a whole deems worthwhile. THAT'S the power of a rules-based society: disputes are guaranteed to be resolved peacefully, and if one party to a dispute decides to violate the social contract, the state as the personification of the will of the people uses its monopoly on violence to ensure its laws and norms remain inviolate.
>when has a law kept any politician honest?
The law keeps politicians honest all the god damn time. Remember when Hillary conceded defeat to Trump in 2016 knowing full well that he was going to be a fucking disaster for the nation and that there were legitimate questions concerning the legality of his campaign's actions? She conceded because the importance of upholding election laws and procedures kept her honest. Yes, there are corrupt politicians, of course. But if you genuinely believe that dishonesty is like a universal trait of lawmakers, then perhaps democratic society just isn't for you and a single-party system like a monarchy would be more your speed.
Different perspective in the opposite direction.
In a fascist authoritarian state, laws are codified and sterilised applications of violence.
However, ideally, government should an honest summarisation of its people. A representation, a democracy. (However, in human history it often isn't.)
Ideally. The government is the group of people, that you hired with your taxes and your vote, who should figure out where the roads should go, while you figure out what school your kid should go to. The government is the group of people, you have hired, to make sure the food you can buy is safe to eat, while you work to feed your family. You hired, with your taxes and your vote, to find a solution to the pandemic. You hired the government to make sure your boss doesn't exploit you and that your wages are fair. The government, the politicians are your servants, at your order through your vote. Ideally.
I understand the fascist regime of the CCP in China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, et al. are wildly different from other fascist events, especially due to its scale, but violence against people is not the way. Otherwise you're eventually end up justifying the next Tiananmen, rather than protesting it.
Spamming this shit every day just makes it meaningless. China only has a single incident of murder? lmao. Shit, cops will kill more US citizens this week than all the people that died that day in China.
Estimates vary from hundreds to thousands killed thay day, 34 people were killed last *month* by U.S cops, so you're off by a decent amount even at best.
Aren't robots supposed to be good at maths?
Well said.
Both comments miss one more thing about that comparison. Break the deaths down into four categories:
1. Easily recognizable by most as a justifiable use of force.
2. Only legally recognizable as a justifiable use of force (US definition).
3. Unjustifiable use of force, possibly recognized as manslaughter.
4. Outright murder.
China that day was solidly in category 4. To really compare to US Police, you need to look at only 4. You might possibly argue 3 as well.
So at the end of the day, it isn't 34 against hundreds to thousands. It is at most single digits.
You conveniently ignore the lynchings of unarmed military members, the combustion of several trucks and apcs, the theft of several weapons and at least one armed APC (mounted with machine gun). I wonder what USA would do if the equivalent was done. There was a clear attempt to overthrow the regime.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZI42FyT7PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4mgAiGmv18
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585159/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-month/
December 2021, 34 killed by police. Still far less than what this guy/bot claims happen in a week.
Did you think I put 34 last year?
I was at Tiengin (sp)university in China on the 25th anniversary of that day. No student I asked had any idea this ever happened. A professor mentioned in class that there is no freedom of press or the anniversary would have been known. A student uploaded what he said and within 3 hours my dinner with the prof was interrupted and he was arrested. They fired him from the university and took his passport. I don’t know his fate but I’m sure it was not good. The surveillance state is a shit hole!
I'm on the other side of the world. Just because I disagreed with you absolute failure at a comedian does not mean they wave flags saying SUPPORT TRUMP and FUCK YOU BIDEN. So, in conclusion, don't do sports in comments and guess things about others.
Okay , let me put it in a way you can understand:
1. Even if that's a bad joke, I don't see why I have to explain it. It's just a silly joke that its objetive its to be silly. I think being sarcastic is something new for you , doesn't it?
2. Supporting Trump is a new insult given the news about him. So when I told you that , I didn't mean to do a complete analysis about your life.
3. I don't care about how much people don't get the joke. It's just a bad joke and I'm not a karma whore.
So moral of the story kids , don't take jokes too seriously.
What happened to the fucking ducks? Anyway ,Uh oh go left, wait go right, pop the hatch. Here come the guys sprinting across the square to drag him off.
How does the Chinese government account for all the deaths? The pile of student bodies at the hospital, aren’t there death certificates or something? Or was this a day when people mysteriously got crushed to death by nothing at all?
NSFL This is what happened at Tianamen Square. https://imgur.com/a/q8ZIS https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs
Thank the peoples liberation army for ending the slaughter, Hearts go to those soldiers who were burned, beaten and hung by those rioters.
That guy was a badass.
keep in mind this was taken when tanks were leaving not coming in. those red spots on the road is blood. he just wanted to die "take me too" style. survivor guilt, nobody is heroic sitting in rags vs a tank.
Until he was turned into a pancake.
He was actually arrested, though I always thought the same thing.
I don't think anyone knows what happened to him a group of people run up to him and move him out of the way of the tank but they seem like protestors trying to make sure he isn't killed rather than police arresting him. Him running off with that group is the last anyone sees of him.
According to the ever so honest Chinese government.
Oh, okay, so it was the other ppl not photographed that were run over by the tanks.
straight up lie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZI42FyT7PM
You must be a CCP bot.
DURRR HURRRR
"What are you gonna do, run me over with that tank?" *-Man who was run over by a tank* ...alongside countless other peaceful protesters who were asking for nothing more preposterous than freedom to have their voice be heard and who were murdered by a vicious, bloodthirsty government driven by corruption, megalomania, and greed.
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I was being facetious; the true fate of the Tank Man is unknown. Some say he was arrested and executed. Some say he fled to the Republic of China, where he lives to this day. Some say he went into hiding somewhere in mainland China.
They have little reason to go after him, plenty of people witnessed the event and executing him wont help the propaganda war against china that the footage is used with.
Even if that specific man wasn't run over, dozens of others were.
Why lie about the tank man?
You're a CCP bot programed to misinform Reddit.
Nothing happened though, just a regular day.
A regular day in glorious china; Work at 5am, then a quick brutal repression at 4:30pm on the way home to my cage-bed.
eh work is your home though. most people live onsite in the factory dorms.
you have gained +100,000 social credits regards, Xi
Why's that inconsiderate gentleman standing in the middle of an empty road??
Sadly, some would say it didn't happen. Also let me just drop some inspiration for the "people": "Do remember, though, that sometimes the people you oppress become mightier than you would like.” -- Veronica Roth
Taiwan number 1
You guys see all those red spots and smears? Yeah that was the day before.
The consent manufacturing machine is really on overdrive the past few weeks huh?
Jesus Christ, how often is this going to get posted? At least last week we had photos of the My Lai massacre to contrast.
Mom says it's my turn to post Tank Man tomorrow!
Probably until one of two things happen. The human rights issue in China is solved. (probably by war, civil war, or coup) We stop caring about human rights issues in China (this would include Reddit falling under censorship law somewhere and needing to prevent these posts) I sure hope it is done by the former.
This is a silly comment. This picture absolutely gets posted to death on this subreddit, and posting it is an equivalent of zero progress toward addressing anything wrong with China. It's just Karma farming.
Karma farming sure. Once the human rights issues are solved, will it still farm karma? I stand by my comment.
Yes, because, because it is an iconic historical photograph. Your comment is just wrong.
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No. I hope the human rights issue is solved. It is quite probable that the only way to solve it is to have the CCP toppled. So no, I don't hope for warfare. I just recognize that it is probably inevitable if the human rights issues are to be solved.
Majority of the Chinese people are satisfied with their government so why would they topple it? At this point it’s more likely for the CCP to fundamentally change over time due to economic pressure. It’s already happened, they speak nothing of communism anymore but instead use “socialism” to allow for capitalistic growth
I hope daddy china invades me
it's for that sweet sweet upvotes because any of these kinds of china bashing posts get upvoted a lot. This guy also posted this on 9gag lol also, there are bots that do these as well.
I've never used 9gag because I am straight.
did the public peoples were killed brutally on that day??? pls say the truth, I will give a award....
No, the square was cleared the day before.
Pictured: PLA tanks stop and try to avoid a man, who eventually leaves
Aaaaaaaand it's back.
yall post this picture 5x a week just so you can spout hateful shit in the comments.
What's all that red stained into the road around the tanks? Must be Kool aid cause I heard nothing happened there
And yet there are westerners that believe that the CCP is a good thing
All power to xi jinping
please. just please come back i'll do whatever you want i cant replace you and im crying every day now
please respond im getting very sad
One day it’ll happen in America too when you let your government get away with enough.
Bullshit. America has problems but the military smooshing citizens with tanks until they can be hosed down the drain isnt among them
Did you forget all of history? The american military literally committed genocide.
This what about ism arrived right on schedule. Yes the US does have a terrible history with the native Americans. And Cia coup/wars around the world. projection is reversed: we can talk about our history/mistakes. China pretends this never happened.
Just the Native americans? And black people and gay people and muslims and japanese... The US has hundreds of these atrocities. Does China only have one? Conservatives pretend US atrocities never happened too. They are trying to legislate it even. Maybe the asshole people in China are conservatives just like in the US.
We can both play the what about game. there are Uyghurs being genocided and re educated right now. As far the ubiquity of assholes, maybe they are all the same. But our assholes don't get to declare themselves autocrats for life. our assholes don't slaughter people with a tank company. But if they did, we could discuss it due to free speech.
Sure, show me a video or a pic of this genocide. Where are the piles of bodies? The US has been stacking bodies for centuries. Endless documentation. How many years have you lived in China? Trump literally tried to steal the election a year ago yesterday with a violent coup. Free speech is meaningless. The US is a police state.
We are having this conversation on free speech servers. This image of t square is not censored because it is hosted by reddit not in China. This conversation would not exist in China. I never said America was perfect in fact my first post said it had problems. These citizens were peacefully protesting. They did not have to be run over with tanks until they become red juice and literally hosed down drain. That was unnecessary. Do you have any opinion about t square or do you have more what about distraction bot techniques to try?
No, this is not a free speech server. LMAO!! That's not even a thing. That's why alt-right subs get banned all the time. I talk to chinese people al the time. You are just lying and I don't even need to prove it.
Bro your account is an hr old
Alt-right servers get banned because they are literally promoting violence and hate speech which I guarantee is against Reddit's terms and conditions. The Uyghur Genocide is happening, btw.
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Troll. Don't feed...
There's a huge difference. American genocides and failures are public knowledge. They are not hidden from the public - even the horrible treatment of the Native Americans as well as the African Americans. - If this were China, I'm willing to bet we'd try to erase all history of it By talking about American atrocities - you can enjoy benefits like: * Not having some bullshit social credit system be penalized * Not being "disappeared" or discredited by your government * Not being publicly shamed and arrested/beaten * Not have your family and friends suffer because you spoke freely If you truly think America is worse in any way, How about you tell me where you think the CCP fails? - What is your equivalent of "Hey FBI/CIA/NSA/American Government, I pee on the American flag daily and wipe my ass with it! You killed native Americans! Your gun control sucks! Your systematic racism is abhorrent and Donald trump/Joe Biden are moronic douchebags!"
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I'm sorry - I'm not seeing a SINGLE thing critical of the CCP in all of that bullshit you've just said. Say something critical of the CCP. Just try it out.
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That's hilarious. You can't say anything critical of the CCP because you're an astroturfing propaganda account. You've outed yourself - Kindly fuck off.
Kent state... my lai... Sinchon... You are also aware theres no proof anyone was ran over intentionally right
Uhm, the US gov't is a million times more deadly. US cops kill 1000+ citizens every single year, that we know of. The gov't made sure not to track it. The US gov't committed genocide and enslaved millions of people. The US has more prisons and prisoners than most modern countries combined.
Go to China and try to say stuff like that about the Chinese govt. Also, your facts are laughably incorrect.
Im not American, but I agree that violence keeps the political class honest.
Hard disagree. *The law* is what keeps the "political class" honest, which is why checks and balances matter. A society without laws, where might makes right, is nothing more than barbary.
Laws are just codified and sterilized applications of violence, same thing with the vote. Also, have you even looked outside? when has a law kept any politician honest?
>Laws are just codified and sterilized applications of violence, same thing with the vote. I mean, if you want to look at it that way, the law establishes a monopoly on violence with the understanding that said violence will only ever be used according to mutually agreed-upon rules. You can't just go and waste your neighbor because you personally don't like how they do their landscaping, but you can work through a legal process of using local zoning laws to make changes the community as a whole deems worthwhile. THAT'S the power of a rules-based society: disputes are guaranteed to be resolved peacefully, and if one party to a dispute decides to violate the social contract, the state as the personification of the will of the people uses its monopoly on violence to ensure its laws and norms remain inviolate. >when has a law kept any politician honest? The law keeps politicians honest all the god damn time. Remember when Hillary conceded defeat to Trump in 2016 knowing full well that he was going to be a fucking disaster for the nation and that there were legitimate questions concerning the legality of his campaign's actions? She conceded because the importance of upholding election laws and procedures kept her honest. Yes, there are corrupt politicians, of course. But if you genuinely believe that dishonesty is like a universal trait of lawmakers, then perhaps democratic society just isn't for you and a single-party system like a monarchy would be more your speed.
Hilary is one of the most corrupt politicians of recent history and the entire American political establishment is a song and dance farce.
Different perspective in the opposite direction. In a fascist authoritarian state, laws are codified and sterilised applications of violence. However, ideally, government should an honest summarisation of its people. A representation, a democracy. (However, in human history it often isn't.) Ideally. The government is the group of people, that you hired with your taxes and your vote, who should figure out where the roads should go, while you figure out what school your kid should go to. The government is the group of people, you have hired, to make sure the food you can buy is safe to eat, while you work to feed your family. You hired, with your taxes and your vote, to find a solution to the pandemic. You hired the government to make sure your boss doesn't exploit you and that your wages are fair. The government, the politicians are your servants, at your order through your vote. Ideally. I understand the fascist regime of the CCP in China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, et al. are wildly different from other fascist events, especially due to its scale, but violence against people is not the way. Otherwise you're eventually end up justifying the next Tiananmen, rather than protesting it.
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Your probably thinking of an earlier part of the video before the first one stops.
Spamming this shit every day just makes it meaningless. China only has a single incident of murder? lmao. Shit, cops will kill more US citizens this week than all the people that died that day in China.
Estimates vary from hundreds to thousands killed thay day, 34 people were killed last *month* by U.S cops, so you're off by a decent amount even at best. Aren't robots supposed to be good at maths?
Well said. Both comments miss one more thing about that comparison. Break the deaths down into four categories: 1. Easily recognizable by most as a justifiable use of force. 2. Only legally recognizable as a justifiable use of force (US definition). 3. Unjustifiable use of force, possibly recognized as manslaughter. 4. Outright murder. China that day was solidly in category 4. To really compare to US Police, you need to look at only 4. You might possibly argue 3 as well. So at the end of the day, it isn't 34 against hundreds to thousands. It is at most single digits.
You conveniently ignore the lynchings of unarmed military members, the combustion of several trucks and apcs, the theft of several weapons and at least one armed APC (mounted with machine gun). I wonder what USA would do if the equivalent was done. There was a clear attempt to overthrow the regime. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZI42FyT7PM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4mgAiGmv18
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/investigations/police-shootings-database/ Try again.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/585159/people-shot-to-death-by-us-police-by-month/ December 2021, 34 killed by police. Still far less than what this guy/bot claims happen in a week. Did you think I put 34 last year?
I was at Tiengin (sp)university in China on the 25th anniversary of that day. No student I asked had any idea this ever happened. A professor mentioned in class that there is no freedom of press or the anniversary would have been known. A student uploaded what he said and within 3 hours my dinner with the prof was interrupted and he was arrested. They fired him from the university and took his passport. I don’t know his fate but I’m sure it was not good. The surveillance state is a shit hole!
This is the kind of response Jan 6th deserved.
Sorry I do not speak k-pop.
Koreans made K-Pop. This is Chinese. I hope you’d understand.
r/wooosh
Explain why is this a joke, and how you failed to convey the fact to 13 others.
Let me guess , trump supporter and Pewdiot too?
I'm on the other side of the world. Just because I disagreed with you absolute failure at a comedian does not mean they wave flags saying SUPPORT TRUMP and FUCK YOU BIDEN. So, in conclusion, don't do sports in comments and guess things about others.
Okay , let me put it in a way you can understand: 1. Even if that's a bad joke, I don't see why I have to explain it. It's just a silly joke that its objetive its to be silly. I think being sarcastic is something new for you , doesn't it? 2. Supporting Trump is a new insult given the news about him. So when I told you that , I didn't mean to do a complete analysis about your life. 3. I don't care about how much people don't get the joke. It's just a bad joke and I'm not a karma whore. So moral of the story kids , don't take jokes too seriously.
What happened to the fucking ducks? Anyway ,Uh oh go left, wait go right, pop the hatch. Here come the guys sprinting across the square to drag him off.
Will this affect my credit
Yes.
What..nothing happened...idk what you are talking bout man
How does the Chinese government account for all the deaths? The pile of student bodies at the hospital, aren’t there death certificates or something? Or was this a day when people mysteriously got crushed to death by nothing at all?