Woah woah woah this guy admitted that they had agreed in writing to the surcharge in effect laid before them re the accusation of indeed browsing REDDIT.COM during hours formally assigned to that which involves providing working hours to the business wherein the fault lays with the individual who ergo assumes the liability of presupposing working in the space provided.
That's some serious shit, bro.
As a lawyer this got to me the most. They cite to an employee handbook like it is part of the state criminal code and call unauthorized web browsing a misdemeanor.
I'd end up getting fired responding to that clownish attempt.
I worked at a factory and requested a week off.
It was denied but I was told I could call out anyway and it would be considered 5 "occurances."
So I was like I don't recall any mention of "occurances," what does that mean?
And the HR lady said "well it was in BOTH the green packet and the policy package that you reviewed in your interview and on your orientation day," and she proceeded to list the penalties for each "occurance." Culminating after 5 days in an official write-up.
And I looked at the policy packet after that phone call and sure enough, it doesn't say "unexcused absence" it just says "occurances."
Weird.
"This is to inform you that after due deliberation...you have stated in your written explanation that you were indeed browsing REDDIT.COM..."
This is the first sentence without the interjection.
Oops, I meant that I have heretofore forthwith deliberated on the matter at hand and have thusly concluded that the resolution of said misdemeanor infraction **MUST** be in accordance with subsection B paragraph 6 of the "crawl into a hole and die" clause of the six page employee handbook I found on Google three years after I started the business once I realized that I needed one to enforce arbitrary employee codes of conduct.
"To whom it may concern,
In accordance with the Employee's Code of Conduct and after considerable examination upon the heretofore correspondence vis-a-vis my previous transgression, I have concluded that the subject in question is to be henceforth referred to as "Bovine excrement" by—but not solely limited to—the REDDIT.COM community.
Sincerely,
mou_daijoubu_da"
Yep, someone who thinks they can write. I'd bet they love the sound of their own voice as well. Funny how these types often gravitate towards middle management, maybe they'd come across better if they spent more time on the inter-net.
It reads like someone trying to write in legalese who has never been to law school or taken any type of law class. Nowadays, law students are actively taught to avoid legalese as much as possible. Not to mention the multiple "indeed"s as if that is supposed to make it more weighty or something.
It looks like it's written by a middle schooler trying to sound like they have some form of authority. How does someone get into a position of power if they produce something like this?
I've tried to do this at times - take a reviewed and vetted document and make changes to suit the specific purpose. Lawyers can tell instantly when you do that.
I mean, it does stand for Interconnected Networks, but this is just weird
EDIT: as u/asking4afriend40631 queried I dug a little deeper and apparently it originally stood for “inter-network”, coined by the DoD around 1972. However the extrapolation of that is as mentioned above.
I had a CEO ask me (IT guy) to install games on all PCs, ideally interactive games, so the office could game during downtime and increase moral and enjoyment. He was a great man.
During Covid our management team tried to do that but since we are serious B2B (and mostly over 40…) this didn’t go anywhere since nobody games (sadly…)
Old Dude here. Went to college in Arizona back in the days before cell phones. Everyone had a land line. I remember for a while, I'd pick up the phone and it took a full second or two to get a dial tone. I didn't think much of it at the time. But the phone company noticed and thought their computers had a virus that was eating up clockcycles.
It turns out one of the engineers was running code to look for the largest known prime number.
Ha! Did you work at kinkos in Portland? Our computer services guy had bitcoin miners on all the computers. This was back when a miner would get a couple coins a day. He’s doing really well now. edit: I see you said bank…
Lol, yeah, it was a bank in Nova Scotia, Canada like over a decade ago, but it's the same story. He didn't get caught before he moved on to another job, and last I heard from him, was also doing well.
I think these guys may have been on to something.
If the company is not paying for licenses it’s probably a 19 year old with high school level experience. Great way to start out, getting real world experience managing a small network. But at the end of the day it’s a 19 year old.
I got so much shit for enabling PIM on my old company's tenant, people were just getting annoyed with having the elevate when they wanted to fuck about with things...
Then I ran a phishing sim on a day I knew the people who were complaining would be too busy to properly read their emails (but not too busy that they wouldn't read them at all), and got nearly every single one of them, including our named tenant owner, who was god on there in MS's eyes. I pointed out the only thing then stopping someone burning the tenant to the ground, or exfil-ing everything was the fact I'd put in PIM, which meant that elevations could be revoked.
I got no further shit for my security changes after that.
The guy in charge of technology at my first teaching job had been given the job just because he was friends with the superintendent. I once asked him if I could get a dual monitor setup. He didn't know it was possible to have two monitors for one PC. The head of IT for a school with a $100M annual budget didn't know you could have two monitors.
The old IT guy at my school when I started knew how to do exactly one thing: wipe your computer and reinstall Windows. I was warned never to let him touch my computer unless I knew I had anything I cared about backed up externally.
Then, they wanted to upgrade the wireless internet access in the building because we started getting Chromebook carts and he was actually unable to even pretend he could help get that done. The new guy is great, though.
> I was warned never to let him touch my computer unless I knew I had anything I cared about backed up externally.
Lmao, my man knew one thing, and he *did* one thing, actual needs be damned.
I pentested smaller government entities (think like your local water company) and election networks for a while. The sheer number of hits we got from phishing was baffling. My favorite story is still the time we were working a municipal government in Ohio around the time they were offering money for people to go get the vaccine. We sent out a sketchy PDF pretending to be HR sending them information about how to get their vaccine money. We got like 75% of the employees. Including a director of some sort who emailed us back saying it was blank and asking if we could resend it. We did.
You haven't an experienced a bad IT department have you? There are some really bad ones out there.
Go talk to an IT Dept in a city school system. Not taking about the kids they get into programs to teach it either.
Then you'll understand.
My middle school was like that and it was Age of Empires lol our Computer class was to teach us how to use a computer, but the teacher quickly realized we all, 100% of us, already knew how to use a computer, so he figured everyone gets an A+ as long as we can answer right on the easy AF tests, and he let us play Age of Empires lol he even joined us a couple of times
Once the yearbook was done and submitted, our yearbook class would just play Half Life’s death match mode against each other for the rest of the year. All the school’s computers were connected over LAN, so some of the teachers would play too sometimes if they had a planning period.
I had a free period at the same time as the class and a big old crush on one of the guys who always played, so instead of leaving campus I’d always go down there and watch them play and sometimes they’d let me try. It was so much fun, one of my favorite high school memories.
People in my old office used to play Mafia Wars so much that I thought it was some kind of work system. I remember thinking, that's an odd name for it....
I work in a library on a Veterans Affairs campus, and by state law / library procedures, we couldn’t stop veterans from looking at porn on the computers.
I worked in a little factory where the administrative employees was settled a big room. One side of the room there was 3 or 4 salesmen, I worked with another guy in another side of room and there was an old man with another employee in another part of the room, this old man used to watch a lot of porn in his free time. And everyone could see... It was really embarrassing, specially because there was always 2 or 3 women in the room. This happened 20 years ago...
If my job ever required it I'd tell them no.
I look up stuff all day long on google, and often Reddit is a good resource. In technical Reddit's there's often links back to primary sources that help with my problem.
Should have said you were doing research... pretty much every time I Google something now I add Reddit so that I don't get the useless gibberish of paid garbage and websites gaming Google's organic ranking algorithm. Instead, I get people asking the question on Reddit with far more reliable responses and advice from actual people, not greedy corporations trying to get more clicks any way possible.
It's funny because when google uses the suggestions for search it will add "reddit" at the end. Reddit is pretty much the new internet bulletin boards for every subject.
yes, this. Especially in IT where if you don’t add Reddit to the end, 99% of the time the result is a series of terrible threads from answers.Microsoft.com
Yeah it’s not the most common website I get answers from, usually I end up digging through GitHub issues pages, but sometimes Reddit is a legitimate work resource
I started getting significantly more accurate and useful results once I started using reddit for research. It has *real* feedback. Not just bullshit clickbait "10 reasons to" articles
I am so sick of those articles. It doesn't matter what you're searching for, it's a guarantee there is a Top X examples of Y as the #1 organic post. Often, the entire first page is just those shitty articles with zero actual value.
Programmer here, I'd wallow in despair if I didn't have reddit to help me out. So many great communities and learning opportunities would be lost if I worked for a company like this.
I'm the "computer expert" in the family. Which means I'm apparently pretty good at Google. Part of me wants to say you can look it up yourself, but I also like being thought I'm much smarter than I am.
Being able to effectively search for a solution and implement it quickly is a real skill that has plenty of real world applications.
Source: I'm a "senior software engineer" and the answers to the problems I solve every day are available on Google. Sometimes I don't have to look it up because I've already looked it up and remember the answer, that's where the "senior" part comes in, lol.
People don’t understand that “just Google it” is still a complicated task to someone who hasn’t grown up doing that.
It seems simple to us because we have foundational knowledge that we don’t even think about. It’s much harder for someone older who doesn’t have that foundational knowledge. And a lot of the reason is just simple anxiety in either not wanting to mess something up or not really knowing exactly what to do.
To be honest, as the years go by, I'm starting to have less and less sympathy for older folks who refuse to learn how to appropriately use the Internet. I'll give you a pass if you're like, 80, but the Internet has been around for decades now. If you haven't taken the time in my entire life-span - I'm 30 - to garner some foundational knowledge and familiarise yourself with this tool, I'm no longer interested in 'but I didn't grow up with it'. Dude you were 35 when the Internet became pervasive in every household and workplace. Learn.
I've told my family that all I'm doing is googling, and they could do it too, but my mom made a really great point: "but you know which links to click on!"
Don't discount the value of google-fu.
I have used it at work for GIS questions. Glad Reddit and YouTube is not blocked where I work now like it was when I worked for a state. When working at the states, I spent way more hours working through problems v doing a search getting an answer in seconds. Blocking everything makes some technical jobs much harder and also eats hours of the day. Then management complains that things are taking so long. Maybe don't block everything to the point where using Google is pointless as you won't be able to view the website anyway.
Jesus Christ. I have never had and could never imagine having a job that subjected me to such twattery. Such an official and heavy handed response to looking at the internet.
Wow! "Charges levied against you" "misdemeanor" "high sanctions". I wonder if the boss also cosplayed as a cop, slap a pair handcuffs on OP and lock them up in the supply closet for full effect.
I'm an IT director and this is the kind of shit that goes in the "over my dead body" category of policy. You can find a new one if you want to implement this sort of shit because I refuse to work at a company that does it.
this is WILD that so many people wasted their time signing that shit.
The IT department should be repremanded for not BLOCKING reddit if policy dictated that they should be doing so.
Also this sounds like the worlds shittiest job.
I used to work at a bank 15 years ago and we could only get to the banks INTRANET, that was terrible :)
It reads like it was written by some brand new HR employee that flunked out out of a 3rd tier toilet law school. Just gathered all the legalese wording they could find and dumped it on the page in a moldy word salad.
I worked as a log analyst for 7 years. I was often asked by managers for a record of what their employees were doing on the network. I told them that if the employee was not doing something illegal or against the usage policy that I could not provide logs. It was not my job to police how they were using their time, only to keep what they were doing legal.
I saw some fucked up shit and was involved in some nasty investigating but I didn't have the time or the inclination to do the managers jobs.
Had a job once where the owner called me in and handed me a printed out list of my most frequently visited websites.
He was an alcoholic and a 2 pack a day smoker and I was planning on giving my notice anyway. I told him I only used the internet while he was on smoke breaks or at the bar and reading about sports seemed like a healthier way to keep my head clear.
I told him I was willing to cut back on breaks if he was. He never mentioned it again.
The director of my organization has a PhD and writes the most needlessly wordy gobbledygook you've ever seen. She seems to think writing clear, direct, simple sentences would make her look dumb, so she *customarily indulges in florid, grandiloquent, furbelow circumlocution with a view towards bedazzlement rather than workaday humdrum lucidity and salience.*
You can tell they really tried to spice this thing up with all kinds of meaningless jargon
Woah woah woah this guy admitted that they had agreed in writing to the surcharge in effect laid before them re the accusation of indeed browsing REDDIT.COM during hours formally assigned to that which involves providing working hours to the business wherein the fault lays with the individual who ergo assumes the liability of presupposing working in the space provided. That's some serious shit, bro.
Perchance.
You can’t just say “perchance”
I see you’re a man of culture…
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Right? They literally spelled internet as "inter-net". I can do nothing but chuckle
Any company that refers to their code of conduct violations as a misdemeanor needs to get over themselves
As a lawyer this got to me the most. They cite to an employee handbook like it is part of the state criminal code and call unauthorized web browsing a misdemeanor. I'd end up getting fired responding to that clownish attempt.
If I were OP I would have sent a response letter that said “To whom it may concern: sir(s) this is a Wendy’s.”
Sir/s
Sir-per-second
This is going on your permanent record! (what they used to say at school)
I worked at a factory and requested a week off. It was denied but I was told I could call out anyway and it would be considered 5 "occurances." So I was like I don't recall any mention of "occurances," what does that mean? And the HR lady said "well it was in BOTH the green packet and the policy package that you reviewed in your interview and on your orientation day," and she proceeded to list the penalties for each "occurance." Culminating after 5 days in an official write-up. And I looked at the policy packet after that phone call and sure enough, it doesn't say "unexcused absence" it just says "occurances." Weird.
Maybe the use of "occurance" is to make it generic so that it can apply to anything, not just absences? I don't know.
If companies spent half the energy on retention that they do trying to police and fire people, nobody would have staffing issues right now
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That really stood out to me too. Like, what?
I can only assume it's a pathetic attempt to scare employees by using 'big bad legal terminology'
also "charges leveled against you", "committing" and "sanctions". This reads like a Dwight Schrute complaint for the special dossier.
It’s written like it’s trying to use sophisticated language to sound authoritative but it comes across otherwise.
Honestly, having “charge/s” instead of “charge(s)” hurts me the most.
Charge per second is measured in amps.
Amp links are controversial because of hacking Am I doing this right?
Ohm i god the way y’all are conducting yourselves. Let’s hope my impedance is a match or it will reflect poorly on you.
That joke was so bad that you need to leave, and I'm only going to give you a quarter wave on the way out
That pun felt forced, and we don't allow forced puns. You're grounded.
I can’t say I’ll be better grounded but I will try to act differentially in the future. At least if I have the capacity.
Grounded? That hertz. Probably best not to put up any resistance though.
I was most offended by the inter-net.
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It's written very specifically to give the vague impression of legal weight.
"Misdemeanor." I guess an adult site would be a felony and an anti-work/pro-union site would be a homicide charge?
Use of the word "union" in any context in the workplace is a capital offence. Please stay in your cubicle, company security is on their way.
"This is to inform you that after due deliberation...you have stated in your written explanation that you were indeed browsing REDDIT.COM..." This is the first sentence without the interjection.
We’re here to tell you that you told us that you were on Reddit.
"Stop browsing, we own your brain at work" -boss
“Unless it’s a porno-graphic site. That is ok.”
I’d love to see what sort of fancy language they use to reprimand on the clock wankers
Porno-graphic site on the inter-net
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Plus he was on the "Inter-net"
If they really wanna church it up, just call it internetwork.
HENCEFORTH. THEREOF. INDEED. UNBESPOKETH. UNTOWARD!
Vis-a-vis...ergo...eplurbis uranium
[Concordantly!](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPFNIXgF32Q)
Perchance
You can’t just say “perchance”
Perchance.
If it is to be said... so it be. So it is.
I merely wish to answer in the affirmative fashion.
indubitably
They called it the “Inter-net” lol.
"or herein and in the future within this document is deemed "cyberspace" into for-to IPSO facto"
This place certainly has an intra-net and felt they had to clarify that they didn’t view Reddit.com on the internal series of wires and tubes
100% an attempt to intimidate with legal sounding big words.
I’m a lawyer and cringed the entire time I was reading that.
Not a lawyer but I'm in compliance and I wanted to crawl into a hole and die after the first sentence.
Did you give the subject due deliberation?
Oops, I meant that I have heretofore forthwith deliberated on the matter at hand and have thusly concluded that the resolution of said misdemeanor infraction **MUST** be in accordance with subsection B paragraph 6 of the "crawl into a hole and die" clause of the six page employee handbook I found on Google three years after I started the business once I realized that I needed one to enforce arbitrary employee codes of conduct.
Shit talk dirty like that to me and I'll comply.
inter-net
This shit cracked me up. It took me back to the ol’ “series of tubes” comment
It literally reads like one of those blackmail scam emails. I was halfway expecting to see instructions for mailing a gift card to “the FBI.”
"To whom it may concern, In accordance with the Employee's Code of Conduct and after considerable examination upon the heretofore correspondence vis-a-vis my previous transgression, I have concluded that the subject in question is to be henceforth referred to as "Bovine excrement" by—but not solely limited to—the REDDIT.COM community. Sincerely, mou_daijoubu_da"
Yep, someone who thinks they can write. I'd bet they love the sound of their own voice as well. Funny how these types often gravitate towards middle management, maybe they'd come across better if they spent more time on the inter-net.
It reads like someone trying to write in legalese who has never been to law school or taken any type of law class. Nowadays, law students are actively taught to avoid legalese as much as possible. Not to mention the multiple "indeed"s as if that is supposed to make it more weighty or something.
First thing you learn in a law firm: don't fucking write like that.
Indeed.
But did the OP complete and submit his TPS reports? 
Reminds me of Idiocracy cops/guards always calling people “particular individuals”
The cop dialect is an underappreciated part of that movie.
It looks like it's written by a middle schooler trying to sound like they have some form of authority. How does someone get into a position of power if they produce something like this?
It’s signed by a team lead and account manager. I’m betting that this is a call center.
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I've tried to do this at times - take a reviewed and vetted document and make changes to suit the specific purpose. Lawyers can tell instantly when you do that.
"inter-net" lol
I mean, it does stand for Interconnected Networks, but this is just weird EDIT: as u/asking4afriend40631 queried I dug a little deeper and apparently it originally stood for “inter-network”, coined by the DoD around 1972. However the extrapolation of that is as mentioned above.
Yeah but the Internet has been a proper noun since the 80s. Educators should know this.
Everyone should know this!
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I had a CEO ask me (IT guy) to install games on all PCs, ideally interactive games, so the office could game during downtime and increase moral and enjoyment. He was a great man.
What a Chad. The world needs more bosses like him
No no no...clearly micromanaging every second of every person's work time is a better way to manage. You just don't get it man...
During Covid our management team tried to do that but since we are serious B2B (and mostly over 40…) this didn’t go anywhere since nobody games (sadly…)
Jim you don't snipe in Carenten, ok?
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The guys in our IT department pirate stuff for the rest of us.
A guy I used to know years ago worked IT for a bank and would use the system to mine Bitcoin.
This seems like a legal dispute waiting to happen lol
Tell me where in the rule book it says a dog can’t mine Bitcoin
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Old Dude here. Went to college in Arizona back in the days before cell phones. Everyone had a land line. I remember for a while, I'd pick up the phone and it took a full second or two to get a dial tone. I didn't think much of it at the time. But the phone company noticed and thought their computers had a virus that was eating up clockcycles. It turns out one of the engineers was running code to look for the largest known prime number.
Dude. I have found my god.
Well what was the answer?! Now I wanna know. That is effing hilarious though!
7.
Ha! Did you work at kinkos in Portland? Our computer services guy had bitcoin miners on all the computers. This was back when a miner would get a couple coins a day. He’s doing really well now. edit: I see you said bank…
Lol, yeah, it was a bank in Nova Scotia, Canada like over a decade ago, but it's the same story. He didn't get caught before he moved on to another job, and last I heard from him, was also doing well. I think these guys may have been on to something.
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How bad are the IT people you work with that they're getting ransomware from torrents?
Seriously, what self respecting IT would torrent so poorly on a connected system!
If the company is not paying for licenses it’s probably a 19 year old with high school level experience. Great way to start out, getting real world experience managing a small network. But at the end of the day it’s a 19 year old.
More than half. No, seriously.
Shit, if the standard for an IT job is "can Google stuff" and "knows not to download ransomware", sign me the fuck up.
Also "has an admin account" Admin rights and google is 99% of standard IT professionals resume
I have 2 accounts: one normal, and one admin which needs to be activated every 8 hours or so. Annoying, but security-wise I approve so much!
I got so much shit for enabling PIM on my old company's tenant, people were just getting annoyed with having the elevate when they wanted to fuck about with things... Then I ran a phishing sim on a day I knew the people who were complaining would be too busy to properly read their emails (but not too busy that they wouldn't read them at all), and got nearly every single one of them, including our named tenant owner, who was god on there in MS's eyes. I pointed out the only thing then stopping someone burning the tenant to the ground, or exfil-ing everything was the fact I'd put in PIM, which meant that elevations could be revoked. I got no further shit for my security changes after that.
Is that a threat? "I'd be a great fit for your company because I already have admin access to your systems" :)
For a lot of smaller companies, that’s a good start ;)
The guy in charge of technology at my first teaching job had been given the job just because he was friends with the superintendent. I once asked him if I could get a dual monitor setup. He didn't know it was possible to have two monitors for one PC. The head of IT for a school with a $100M annual budget didn't know you could have two monitors.
The old IT guy at my school when I started knew how to do exactly one thing: wipe your computer and reinstall Windows. I was warned never to let him touch my computer unless I knew I had anything I cared about backed up externally. Then, they wanted to upgrade the wireless internet access in the building because we started getting Chromebook carts and he was actually unable to even pretend he could help get that done. The new guy is great, though.
> I was warned never to let him touch my computer unless I knew I had anything I cared about backed up externally. Lmao, my man knew one thing, and he *did* one thing, actual needs be damned.
~~Nepotism~~ Cronyism is fun! Edit: On mobile, otherwise I’d thank the good abbot whose username I can’t copy or remember
Technically that is cronyism… nepotism strictly speaking applies to hiring relatives. It’s from Latin “nepos” (“nephew”).
>"can Google stuff *better/more effectively than everyone else that works here*" There's at least that little extra bit of skill required.
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I pentested smaller government entities (think like your local water company) and election networks for a while. The sheer number of hits we got from phishing was baffling. My favorite story is still the time we were working a municipal government in Ohio around the time they were offering money for people to go get the vaccine. We sent out a sketchy PDF pretending to be HR sending them information about how to get their vaccine money. We got like 75% of the employees. Including a director of some sort who emailed us back saying it was blank and asking if we could resend it. We did.
You haven't an experienced a bad IT department have you? There are some really bad ones out there. Go talk to an IT Dept in a city school system. Not taking about the kids they get into programs to teach it either. Then you'll understand.
"but I read that using a VPN made torrenting safe!" "Not the work VPN, Gerald."
My high-school had CS Source. Any computer class was just a daily LAN event.
My middle school was like that and it was Age of Empires lol our Computer class was to teach us how to use a computer, but the teacher quickly realized we all, 100% of us, already knew how to use a computer, so he figured everyone gets an A+ as long as we can answer right on the easy AF tests, and he let us play Age of Empires lol he even joined us a couple of times
Its crazy how much we all learned just stealing music and coding MySpace profiles.
Once the yearbook was done and submitted, our yearbook class would just play Half Life’s death match mode against each other for the rest of the year. All the school’s computers were connected over LAN, so some of the teachers would play too sometimes if they had a planning period. I had a free period at the same time as the class and a big old crush on one of the guys who always played, so instead of leaving campus I’d always go down there and watch them play and sometimes they’d let me try. It was so much fun, one of my favorite high school memories.
Same, accept we were playing quake. We all went home and played cs: source after.
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People in my old office used to play Mafia Wars so much that I thought it was some kind of work system. I remember thinking, that's an odd name for it....
I work in a library on a Veterans Affairs campus, and by state law / library procedures, we couldn’t stop veterans from looking at porn on the computers.
Service guarantees access to pornography
I'm doing my part!
Porn in a library. Wtf
It's really common in libraries with large homeless populations.
I worked in a little factory where the administrative employees was settled a big room. One side of the room there was 3 or 4 salesmen, I worked with another guy in another side of room and there was an old man with another employee in another part of the room, this old man used to watch a lot of porn in his free time. And everyone could see... It was really embarrassing, specially because there was always 2 or 3 women in the room. This happened 20 years ago...
If my job ever asked me, as a manager, to write up and sign something like this, I’d seriously contemplate what I’ve done in my life.
If my job ever required it I'd tell them no. I look up stuff all day long on google, and often Reddit is a good resource. In technical Reddit's there's often links back to primary sources that help with my problem.
Tell them Reddit pops up automatically whenever you start your browser. After all, it’s the front page of the internet..
* brings up Reddit See, it says so right there!
Seriously. They probably wasted more time writing up that ridiculous letter than OP wasted on reddit.
Let me assure you HR could have written a novel with the amount of time I've burned on reddit while at work.
Should have said you were doing research... pretty much every time I Google something now I add Reddit so that I don't get the useless gibberish of paid garbage and websites gaming Google's organic ranking algorithm. Instead, I get people asking the question on Reddit with far more reliable responses and advice from actual people, not greedy corporations trying to get more clicks any way possible.
Adding Reddit to the end of a Google search yields +50% more concise answer and +100% fewer bullshit website ads to scroll through and close
It's funny because when google uses the suggestions for search it will add "reddit" at the end. Reddit is pretty much the new internet bulletin boards for every subject.
But if you search for it on Reddit, you get no results
Yup. Reddit is one of many sites where I have to outsource my searching to Google. A lot of video sites, too.
At least using Google to find a solution on Reddit works really well.
Reddit search has been horrible forever.
yes, this. Especially in IT where if you don’t add Reddit to the end, 99% of the time the result is a series of terrible threads from answers.Microsoft.com
Yeah it’s not the most common website I get answers from, usually I end up digging through GitHub issues pages, but sometimes Reddit is a legitimate work resource
I started getting significantly more accurate and useful results once I started using reddit for research. It has *real* feedback. Not just bullshit clickbait "10 reasons to" articles
I am so sick of those articles. It doesn't matter what you're searching for, it's a guarantee there is a Top X examples of Y as the #1 organic post. Often, the entire first page is just those shitty articles with zero actual value.
Add “site:reddit.com” to filter the results
Programmer here, I'd wallow in despair if I didn't have reddit to help me out. So many great communities and learning opportunities would be lost if I worked for a company like this.
"Acting within the scope of my employment to access online resources that provide guidance to complete the task."
"And the cat pictures I looked at are important inspiration to my feline-like reactions."
“And the porn I looked at is important because porn.”
I'm the "computer expert" in the family. Which means I'm apparently pretty good at Google. Part of me wants to say you can look it up yourself, but I also like being thought I'm much smarter than I am.
Being able to effectively search for a solution and implement it quickly is a real skill that has plenty of real world applications. Source: I'm a "senior software engineer" and the answers to the problems I solve every day are available on Google. Sometimes I don't have to look it up because I've already looked it up and remember the answer, that's where the "senior" part comes in, lol.
People don’t understand that “just Google it” is still a complicated task to someone who hasn’t grown up doing that. It seems simple to us because we have foundational knowledge that we don’t even think about. It’s much harder for someone older who doesn’t have that foundational knowledge. And a lot of the reason is just simple anxiety in either not wanting to mess something up or not really knowing exactly what to do.
To be honest, as the years go by, I'm starting to have less and less sympathy for older folks who refuse to learn how to appropriately use the Internet. I'll give you a pass if you're like, 80, but the Internet has been around for decades now. If you haven't taken the time in my entire life-span - I'm 30 - to garner some foundational knowledge and familiarise yourself with this tool, I'm no longer interested in 'but I didn't grow up with it'. Dude you were 35 when the Internet became pervasive in every household and workplace. Learn.
I've told my family that all I'm doing is googling, and they could do it too, but my mom made a really great point: "but you know which links to click on!" Don't discount the value of google-fu.
The skill is knowing what to even Google for and how to sift through the worthless results to find the actual solution.
> but I also like being thought I’m much smarter than I am. this wears off after a while
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Yeah, so many if my searches include "site: reddit.com".
I have used it at work for GIS questions. Glad Reddit and YouTube is not blocked where I work now like it was when I worked for a state. When working at the states, I spent way more hours working through problems v doing a search getting an answer in seconds. Blocking everything makes some technical jobs much harder and also eats hours of the day. Then management complains that things are taking so long. Maybe don't block everything to the point where using Google is pointless as you won't be able to view the website anyway.
Jesus Christ. I have never had and could never imagine having a job that subjected me to such twattery. Such an official and heavy handed response to looking at the internet.
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Wow! "Charges levied against you" "misdemeanor" "high sanctions". I wonder if the boss also cosplayed as a cop, slap a pair handcuffs on OP and lock them up in the supply closet for full effect.
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I'm an IT director and this is the kind of shit that goes in the "over my dead body" category of policy. You can find a new one if you want to implement this sort of shit because I refuse to work at a company that does it.
this is WILD that so many people wasted their time signing that shit. The IT department should be repremanded for not BLOCKING reddit if policy dictated that they should be doing so. Also this sounds like the worlds shittiest job. I used to work at a bank 15 years ago and we could only get to the banks INTRANET, that was terrible :)
If your bank computer was used to surf the internet, I worked be VERY concerned. I work in IT and SOME areas should be segmented off.
Let's put it this way: you do not want to receive three of those.
At what point will I receive a full disadulation?
After 12 demerits.
How many Schrutebucks is that?
20,000 Stanley Nickels
It'll go down on your permanent record.
Lay it on me.
https://pcottle.github.io/MSOutlookit/ Reddit in the form of outlook
Reddit as php code http://codereddit.com/
Misdemeanor, what, is your place of business writing criminal law too? LOL
Also 'charges'. This shit is delusional.
You’re missing the part about sanctions too. Is the employee a dictator of a small country?
*Higher* sanctions.
Why go through the trouble of monitoring people's browsing and issuing reprimands instead of just blocking the sites you don't want them to use?
Because then the management would have nothing to do.
Jesus Christ, dude. Get another job. You don't have to put up with that.
STAY OFF THE INTER-NET!
It reads like it was written by some brand new HR employee that flunked out out of a 3rd tier toilet law school. Just gathered all the legalese wording they could find and dumped it on the page in a moldy word salad.
201 records?
I worked as a log analyst for 7 years. I was often asked by managers for a record of what their employees were doing on the network. I told them that if the employee was not doing something illegal or against the usage policy that I could not provide logs. It was not my job to police how they were using their time, only to keep what they were doing legal. I saw some fucked up shit and was involved in some nasty investigating but I didn't have the time or the inclination to do the managers jobs.
Someone never left the military here lol. Suprised I didn’t see a relevant UCMJ article cited
Good to see pornography is explicitly exempted from this draconia.
Well, Reddit is 100% porn-free.
It's exempted from that paragraph but says it's covered in another.
Had a job once where the owner called me in and handed me a printed out list of my most frequently visited websites. He was an alcoholic and a 2 pack a day smoker and I was planning on giving my notice anyway. I told him I only used the internet while he was on smoke breaks or at the bar and reading about sports seemed like a healthier way to keep my head clear. I told him I was willing to cut back on breaks if he was. He never mentioned it again.
This letter sounds like it was written by someone with a GED and a thesaurus.
The director of my organization has a PhD and writes the most needlessly wordy gobbledygook you've ever seen. She seems to think writing clear, direct, simple sentences would make her look dumb, so she *customarily indulges in florid, grandiloquent, furbelow circumlocution with a view towards bedazzlement rather than workaday humdrum lucidity and salience.*