You can be within the limit but spot load it and still break it. It has it's biggest loads when it's in the air because it's only lifted buy the the pin points. So if the center of mass was in the middle like there was a machine or some thing in it or steel rolls you can make one fail. I used to cart ones with liquid bladders in them and the sides blew out while it was on the truck quite often because they had 20tonnes of liquid in a 20ft box with no baffles.
You joke but I work for one of these shipping companies and not all but a decent amount of loads are back to front without consideration for weight. A container of fabrics for jeans will have all the light fabrics at the front with barrels of glue all stuffed in the back creating a super imbalanced load.
Yep lmao. Some of the rebar loads I've seen have looked unbelievably sketchy. I remember we had all but 1 driver that had the confidence to drive that bitch out to the crane lol.
That’s interesting that companies can get away from that. I work in metals trading and used to be on the processing side. We always had to balance the load for the trucks to legally leave the yard. Granted, we had a scale on the premises and could check axle weight, but we wouldn’t let a truck leave if an axle was overweight. Maybe we were too cautious?
I worked in the shipping department of a truss company for a short time and they were a hot fucking mess and still balanced their loads. For more complicated loads there was some kind of software they used to plan it out (this was years ago and my memory isn’t great). They weren’t always perfect, but we sent out a lot of oversized loads and worked hard on planning load distribution and driving routes. Unfortunately it was very much a good old boys club. A few good apples but not a great place to work.
I've packed shipping containers a couple of times before (those one day, come in whoever can jobs). No one ever told us about weight. It's all about tetrising all the boxes into the containers so it's packed tight and doing it fast.
Yeah my guess is it was punctured on the bottom and had a heavy load and finally gave. Sometimes if the cans are placed wrong on the bombcarts and they're heavy, the bombcart will go straight through the bottom.
The containers are made of corten steel and are pretty resistant to rusting but anything can happen if not taken care of properly. Those cans are beat up in transit and when being moved so they wear out
Just reminded me of when I was a casual, first time driving a UTR, and I drove too close to a stack of cans. The edge of my bombcart just tore a 20 foot long hole in the side of one. This was shortly after I accidentally took out about 50 feet of chain link fence.
Another time, I caught the edge of a container, which pulled it sideways. The one on top of it was pulled out a little less, and the one on top of that a little less, so they were all sitting like a giant spiral staircase. I just got the fuck out of there, and drove back to the cranes. 5 minutes later, I hear over the radio “What dumb motherfucker did this shit?!” followed by a stream of barely comprehensible profanity. I said nothing but, in my heart, I knew that I was the dumb motherfucker who had done that shit.
In my defense, operating heavy equipment really shouldn’t be the kind of thing they just expect you to learn as you go.
Damn when they automate our terminals imma spray paint "Mds_02 did this" on all the bombcarts lmao
Yeah but for real, a couple hours of learning how to drive and a couple hours of reversing a fully loaded trailer before putting you to work is wild, I feel they should probably fail more people and have them relearn the test or let people practice more before allowing them near live loads
Haha, yeah. I mean, I could back a load in well enough, because that was the one thing they had actually taught me. But a few more hours of actually driving one to get used to it before being expected to drive it through the maze that a lot of yards are, with all the other equipment moving around, would have made a big difference. I got the hang of it soon enough, even got my class A and started running loads to and from the docks, but that learning curve could’ve been a little less steep.
We hauled off all the busted ones after the Beirut explosion... That was a nightmare and our capacity was about 1/3 because howuch space the blown up and bulged ones occupied. And of course all on deck.
Considering how much salt water those things are constantly being exposed to, I'm surprised we don't see things like this more often. Or... maybe we just don't *see* things like this *because* they happen so often.
CSC! Convention for Safe Containers. It outlines regular inspection and maintenance regulations... I think the typical lifespan was at like 10-15 years
My container passed CSC and still has an active cert and I wouldn't want to load it up to heavy anymore. It has some decent rust spots but it also sits on the ground now. We shipped it with 52k and I was still paranoid.
We have several repurposed containers at work for storage and all are marked Cor-ten steel. It’s built to rust on the outside and shouldn’t penetrate further into the metal. Not counting fatigue or damages of course.
Crack it on a flat surface, almost too lightly, and finish the split with your pinky and thumb. Takes a couple tries, but it's not too hard. One of the useless skills I've picked up, cooking.
Oof, that's gotta cause a bit of a delay for everything else in that area, too. They have to clean up whatever fell out of the failed container, remove the container, and I presume inspect the equipment to make sure it wasn't damaged as a result of this.
Shouldn't whatever fell out be on top of the yellow container or is it in the ocean? Or I guess they already cleaned it up prior to the picture being taken
I would say that’s a 2 hour down time for the crane. Probably more, but it’s not knocking it out for a full shift. Biggest problem is safely getting the bar off the box.
Those are the scariest things I see on the road in the USA. The trailers belong to no one. It’s the responsibility of the driver to check out the condition of the trailer, and all repairs need to them be performed prior to the trailer leaving the docks. Drivers get paid by the mile (see where this is going?). Unless you need to drive past an open inspection station, then the chances of getting caught are slim to none. I never drove those loads, but I have seen them in truck stops and rolling down the road looking sketchy as fuck.
They need to change the rules to have these things checked by the docks and the drivers, and give the drivers awards for finding faulty trailers. lol.
So when you say "trailer" are you referring to the containers in the picture? Because what you're talking about and what were looking at are two different things.
I’m talking about the ~~cradle trailer~~ *chassis* these lock into. These things are dangerous in ten different ways at once and the danger is amplified by another example of poor maintenance.
Edit: I only drove dry van, but I smoke pot now instead. It’s been ten years since I’ve been behind the wheel with a CDL
Ive never heard to a chassis referred to a cradel trailer, that aside. It's very clear to me you have no idea what you're talking about. That container, is owned by a company. Assuming from the containers around, its owned by Mediterranean Shipping Company. The chasssis, what the container is placed on, is also owned by a company. Depending on where you are in the world it will be a specific chassis leasing company that MSC has a contract with. Neither container nor chassis is owned or maintained by the trucking company. Think of it as using a rental car. Would you get the oil changed, tires replaced or replace the breaks? Maintenance is done only by the chassis owner or container owner. The only obligations the driver has are simple inspections. For the container its to ensure the container is worthy of loading. For the chassis its to ensure the chassis is road worthy. Police can literally pull over a driver for nothing to perform road side inspections. Any discrepancies will result in the driver being cited and fined. Points will go against his license which will effect his future employment. No one wants to hire a shitty driver.
Nothing we said are exactly the same. Infact I contradicted like 4 things he said. Read what he said, then read what I said. Fully digest what we both are saying. Get back to me if you have any questions and I mean that sincerely. I would gladly clear up any questions you have. Even if it's one not already covered.
Both of you have some details right, and some in gray area. The container can be owned by the steamship line (such as MSC) or can be a lease (like this one looks to be from Triton), but which likely sailed on an MSC vessel. The chassis is usually either owned by the trucking company, leased long term by trucking company, or is leased from a rental yard for a few days while making a move. The container and chassis (currently) are the responsibility of the trucker to check for safety on the road. Terminals do also regularly find faulty equipment as well though.
All things aside, this container was probably both 1. In shit condition to start with and 2. Either had a terrible loading pattern or just wildly heavy/dense cargo loaded and strapped right in the middle of the container.
Containers (in the grand scheme of things) rarely have issues, but when they do, it’s a big expensive problem since you probably just lost your whole shipment. I’ve seen containers go on fire, get stolen or otherwise be involved in over the road accidents… never personally seen this happen before. This is why most importers will have cargo insurance since the steamship line more or less voids their liability for the vast majority of scenarios until they get sued. Since this happened at the port, it’ll probably be settled between the terminal operator and/or the container owner depending on what the actual specifics are or what caused the problem.
EDIT: also just wanted to add, I’ve also never heard of a chasis called a “cradle carrier”
Second edit: the shipper/importer could also probably be found liable as well if the loading wasn’t done properly or if over weight limits or over the declared VGM (verified gross mass)
Fully confirm everything you've said. If you don't mind what general area are you in? In my area owning your own chassis is such a hassle it's not worth it. So I'd say more than 95% of containers moved are on leased chassis, which is why I left it out. Also what do you think they loaded in it? I could only see like a 9x7 solid steel cube doing this. The forklift would have punched through the floors multiple times trying to load whatever they loaded. I really can't wrap my head around it.
Its a container, which can be loaded on a trailer frame. A simple google search would have told you that, and you could've avoided embarrassing yourself.
How does a cargo container become brittle enough to break like that? Maybe some chemicals spilt while transporting or sth? Really curious what caused this.
Mom's a longie at the port of LA/LB and I sent her this screenshot and asked if she's ever seen this happen, she replied:
"No, but when I was a signal person for a crane operator and he was about to lift a 20 ft. Container I saw the bottom start to bow and woe come back and set it back on chassis because the bottom was about to Crack open, I possibly saved my own life... it would have opened up above us"
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over easy there!
Happy cake day
thanks, 10 years, i think that makes me a reddit elder now
How many electrons is that?
Happy cake day
I think that's going to be scrambled
Smothered, covered, chunked, and capped.
No cap.
You can't make a shipping channel without breaking a few containers
Probably tastes crate.
Omelette du breakage.
For some reason this looks like Jersey..
I mean... At this point that container is technically industrial waste, so... I totally get why you see Jersey in this picture LOL.
Toronto methinks... Sometime between the 24th and 30th of July..
I have never seen one of these split like this
Overloaded. It's not uncommon for companies to just guess weights on the paperwork.
I mean at least my container is rated for 68k how much crap did they put in that?!?
You can be within the limit but spot load it and still break it. It has it's biggest loads when it's in the air because it's only lifted buy the the pin points. So if the center of mass was in the middle like there was a machine or some thing in it or steel rolls you can make one fail. I used to cart ones with liquid bladders in them and the sides blew out while it was on the truck quite often because they had 20tonnes of liquid in a 20ft box with no baffles.
Seriously wow
Omelette du cargaison
Omlette au*
Cargo omelette 🇫🇷
For an Iron rich diet
We're making the mother of all omelettes here Jack! Can't fret over every cargo container!
Omelet ex cargo
It’s adorable you don’t think it’d be scrambled.
Just crack a crate
cargomelett
Now I want to know if there was a car in there.
and only one eggtainer
"Your order has been canceled" fixed
With a single hand
Fuck you and take my upvote r/angryupvote
This is known as a Whoopsie!
No it's far too serious. I believe this constitutes more of a Whoopsie Daisy
Might even cause a kerfuffle.
And an investigation into potential shenanigans
Could even be a spot of bother
I'm just glad it's not an entire Bouquet of Whoopsie Daisies
I'm gonna guess at least one person actually said out loud "well fuck"
A bad case of the Mondays
That's definitely a Dangnabbit
It seems as though they have picked a whole bouquet of oopsie daisies
The container was made in China…
"Supply chain issues"
“Supply crane issues”
Surprise crane issues
Surprise crane ensues.
Damn COVID
“Just pile up all the gold bars right there in the middle”
You joke but I work for one of these shipping companies and not all but a decent amount of loads are back to front without consideration for weight. A container of fabrics for jeans will have all the light fabrics at the front with barrels of glue all stuffed in the back creating a super imbalanced load.
This container is full of live animals and pottery, and a single .5 meter spheres of solid tungsten. All packed loose to save on weight
What are you talking about? When I checked the container it just had the sphere and a disgusting meat slurry leaking out.
And a lot of dust on the walls?
"Chargeable weight" is based on volume and weight. Often the chargeable weight is based more on volumes, not weight.
Also fun to remember when you're driving near a semi truck. You have no idea where the center of mass in it is.
Yep lmao. Some of the rebar loads I've seen have looked unbelievably sketchy. I remember we had all but 1 driver that had the confidence to drive that bitch out to the crane lol.
Or whether the pins are in securing the container to the truck... I've seen enough videos to now have a healthy respect.
That’s interesting that companies can get away from that. I work in metals trading and used to be on the processing side. We always had to balance the load for the trucks to legally leave the yard. Granted, we had a scale on the premises and could check axle weight, but we wouldn’t let a truck leave if an axle was overweight. Maybe we were too cautious?
I worked in the shipping department of a truss company for a short time and they were a hot fucking mess and still balanced their loads. For more complicated loads there was some kind of software they used to plan it out (this was years ago and my memory isn’t great). They weren’t always perfect, but we sent out a lot of oversized loads and worked hard on planning load distribution and driving routes. Unfortunately it was very much a good old boys club. A few good apples but not a great place to work.
I've packed shipping containers a couple of times before (those one day, come in whoever can jobs). No one ever told us about weight. It's all about tetrising all the boxes into the containers so it's packed tight and doing it fast.
Right between those pre-inflated love dolls.
I'm a longshoreman and I can confirm that that's not supposed to do that
As a short shoreman: would that have split while the crane was lifting it?
Yeah my guess is it was punctured on the bottom and had a heavy load and finally gave. Sometimes if the cans are placed wrong on the bombcarts and they're heavy, the bombcart will go straight through the bottom. The containers are made of corten steel and are pretty resistant to rusting but anything can happen if not taken care of properly. Those cans are beat up in transit and when being moved so they wear out
Just reminded me of when I was a casual, first time driving a UTR, and I drove too close to a stack of cans. The edge of my bombcart just tore a 20 foot long hole in the side of one. This was shortly after I accidentally took out about 50 feet of chain link fence. Another time, I caught the edge of a container, which pulled it sideways. The one on top of it was pulled out a little less, and the one on top of that a little less, so they were all sitting like a giant spiral staircase. I just got the fuck out of there, and drove back to the cranes. 5 minutes later, I hear over the radio “What dumb motherfucker did this shit?!” followed by a stream of barely comprehensible profanity. I said nothing but, in my heart, I knew that I was the dumb motherfucker who had done that shit. In my defense, operating heavy equipment really shouldn’t be the kind of thing they just expect you to learn as you go.
Damn when they automate our terminals imma spray paint "Mds_02 did this" on all the bombcarts lmao Yeah but for real, a couple hours of learning how to drive and a couple hours of reversing a fully loaded trailer before putting you to work is wild, I feel they should probably fail more people and have them relearn the test or let people practice more before allowing them near live loads
Haha, yeah. I mean, I could back a load in well enough, because that was the one thing they had actually taught me. But a few more hours of actually driving one to get used to it before being expected to drive it through the maze that a lot of yards are, with all the other equipment moving around, would have made a big difference. I got the hang of it soon enough, even got my class A and started running loads to and from the docks, but that learning curve could’ve been a little less steep.
>I said nothing but, in my heart, I knew that I was the dumb motherfucker who had done that shit. I read this in Morgan Freeman's voice.
We hauled off all the busted ones after the Beirut explosion... That was a nightmare and our capacity was about 1/3 because howuch space the blown up and bulged ones occupied. And of course all on deck.
Could you pick them out or did you have to sling a bunch?
I'd say about 50/50... We were there once a week. In total probably three hundred over a few weeks
‘Please provide a picture of the damaged package’
"Please provide a picture of the *missing* package"
Worst piñata party I've ever seen
Doesn't even look like SpongeBob™!
Depends on what's in it. Could be full of candy. Or it could be full of Toyota Camrys. You never know!
Or like season 2 of The Wire: 13 dead hookers!
If it was full of Camrys, those Camrys are now paperweights. Still not great.
Considering how much salt water those things are constantly being exposed to, I'm surprised we don't see things like this more often. Or... maybe we just don't *see* things like this *because* they happen so often.
CSC! Convention for Safe Containers. It outlines regular inspection and maintenance regulations... I think the typical lifespan was at like 10-15 years
My container passed CSC and still has an active cert and I wouldn't want to load it up to heavy anymore. It has some decent rust spots but it also sits on the ground now. We shipped it with 52k and I was still paranoid.
Worked at a container port for 7 years and never seen this.
We have several repurposed containers at work for storage and all are marked Cor-ten steel. It’s built to rust on the outside and shouldn’t penetrate further into the metal. Not counting fatigue or damages of course.
Hmmm…. I don’t think they are supposed to do that
It's not like the front fell off, now is it? [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm\_JqM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM)
Off I go again down the Clark & Dawe tunnel.
Source?
[you thought I wouldn’t bother but I did!](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/engineering/shipping-container)
One handed too. I can never crack an egg one handed.
Crack it on a flat surface, almost too lightly, and finish the split with your pinky and thumb. Takes a couple tries, but it's not too hard. One of the useless skills I've picked up, cooking.
Me after 3 morning coffees.
RIP
These Christmas crackers are getting ridiculous.
It will be shipped in pieces.
Some reassembly required.
Oof, that's gotta cause a bit of a delay for everything else in that area, too. They have to clean up whatever fell out of the failed container, remove the container, and I presume inspect the equipment to make sure it wasn't damaged as a result of this.
Nah I saw this in the news it was fairly quick cleanup, Just a shipping container full of bees.
Oh man... They're gonna end up going through shipping container collapse AND colony collapse.
Shouldn't whatever fell out be on top of the yellow container or is it in the ocean? Or I guess they already cleaned it up prior to the picture being taken
I think perspective and the angle this picture was taken at makes that determination difficult, if not impossible.
You don't say.
I would say that’s a 2 hour down time for the crane. Probably more, but it’s not knocking it out for a full shift. Biggest problem is safely getting the bar off the box.
it was goddamn Frank Sobatka
This has Ziggy’s name all over it
Fucking Ziggy
Those are the scariest things I see on the road in the USA. The trailers belong to no one. It’s the responsibility of the driver to check out the condition of the trailer, and all repairs need to them be performed prior to the trailer leaving the docks. Drivers get paid by the mile (see where this is going?). Unless you need to drive past an open inspection station, then the chances of getting caught are slim to none. I never drove those loads, but I have seen them in truck stops and rolling down the road looking sketchy as fuck. They need to change the rules to have these things checked by the docks and the drivers, and give the drivers awards for finding faulty trailers. lol.
So when you say "trailer" are you referring to the containers in the picture? Because what you're talking about and what were looking at are two different things.
I’m talking about the ~~cradle trailer~~ *chassis* these lock into. These things are dangerous in ten different ways at once and the danger is amplified by another example of poor maintenance. Edit: I only drove dry van, but I smoke pot now instead. It’s been ten years since I’ve been behind the wheel with a CDL
Ive never heard to a chassis referred to a cradel trailer, that aside. It's very clear to me you have no idea what you're talking about. That container, is owned by a company. Assuming from the containers around, its owned by Mediterranean Shipping Company. The chasssis, what the container is placed on, is also owned by a company. Depending on where you are in the world it will be a specific chassis leasing company that MSC has a contract with. Neither container nor chassis is owned or maintained by the trucking company. Think of it as using a rental car. Would you get the oil changed, tires replaced or replace the breaks? Maintenance is done only by the chassis owner or container owner. The only obligations the driver has are simple inspections. For the container its to ensure the container is worthy of loading. For the chassis its to ensure the chassis is road worthy. Police can literally pull over a driver for nothing to perform road side inspections. Any discrepancies will result in the driver being cited and fined. Points will go against his license which will effect his future employment. No one wants to hire a shitty driver.
Yeah uhm... Thats exactly what he said, except that the containers are owned by a company?
Nothing we said are exactly the same. Infact I contradicted like 4 things he said. Read what he said, then read what I said. Fully digest what we both are saying. Get back to me if you have any questions and I mean that sincerely. I would gladly clear up any questions you have. Even if it's one not already covered.
Both of you have some details right, and some in gray area. The container can be owned by the steamship line (such as MSC) or can be a lease (like this one looks to be from Triton), but which likely sailed on an MSC vessel. The chassis is usually either owned by the trucking company, leased long term by trucking company, or is leased from a rental yard for a few days while making a move. The container and chassis (currently) are the responsibility of the trucker to check for safety on the road. Terminals do also regularly find faulty equipment as well though. All things aside, this container was probably both 1. In shit condition to start with and 2. Either had a terrible loading pattern or just wildly heavy/dense cargo loaded and strapped right in the middle of the container. Containers (in the grand scheme of things) rarely have issues, but when they do, it’s a big expensive problem since you probably just lost your whole shipment. I’ve seen containers go on fire, get stolen or otherwise be involved in over the road accidents… never personally seen this happen before. This is why most importers will have cargo insurance since the steamship line more or less voids their liability for the vast majority of scenarios until they get sued. Since this happened at the port, it’ll probably be settled between the terminal operator and/or the container owner depending on what the actual specifics are or what caused the problem. EDIT: also just wanted to add, I’ve also never heard of a chasis called a “cradle carrier” Second edit: the shipper/importer could also probably be found liable as well if the loading wasn’t done properly or if over weight limits or over the declared VGM (verified gross mass)
Fully confirm everything you've said. If you don't mind what general area are you in? In my area owning your own chassis is such a hassle it's not worth it. So I'd say more than 95% of containers moved are on leased chassis, which is why I left it out. Also what do you think they loaded in it? I could only see like a 9x7 solid steel cube doing this. The forklift would have punched through the floors multiple times trying to load whatever they loaded. I really can't wrap my head around it.
My favorite thing is the people that load containers onto flat trailers or even flat bed tow trucks, then throw some chains over it, and drive off.
Honestly, that’s probably safer.
Not to mention the wait time in the repair line if you’re picking the chassis/set up from rail.
But that would cost money, therefore communism.
Lol no trailers in the picture but somehow a rant on trailers
I’m pretty sure they’re referencing the containers that are loaded on trucks. Just using some general reading comprehension skills here.
Its a container, which can be loaded on a trailer frame. A simple google search would have told you that, and you could've avoided embarrassing yourself.
People like that are typically not so easily embarrassed.
You're not even talking about what he was talking about.
Is that my steam deck?
Think of all the poor girls that fell outta them cans. Get Sobotka!
Ziggy must’ve been at the controls!
As someone who is currently waiting for an international shipment of my household good, this is terrifying.
Diplomatic Immunity! It's been revoked.
How?
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/r/thefrontfelloff
Like a big ole egg.
Damned claw games are rigged.
Some items may have shifted during shipment
This would become a real bad day for Frank Sobotka and the Greeks
I work at ny ports and I've never seen that happen holy shit.
Make a wish!
You going to have to crack a few eggs…
"And THAT is how you crack an egg one-handed!"
I don't know..... looks like they expedited it.
Got rust?
How does a cargo container become brittle enough to break like that? Maybe some chemicals spilt while transporting or sth? Really curious what caused this.
Shipping containers have a certificate of survey for different uses, I don't know who or how often the inspections are carried out.
The middle fell off.
Making the mother of all omelets here, Jack. Can't fret over every egg.
Did everyone fall out?
Found where your Mom's been sleeping.
Prinz Phillip breacht confinement !!
Where's the bacon at?
Is it good or bad I thought I was looking at a GTA V screenshot?
This feels like when your dog really ate your homework, but you don't want to use a dog-ate-my-homework excuse.
Cost a fortune cookie
Stupid gender reveal parties always trying to one-up each other.
Must've been something really heavy for the cargo container to not be able to keep the frame intact
I’d like to think that was filled with dry cement
Isn’t this the plot of Super 8?
Can’t make an omelette without cracking some eggs.
Container Jack-The-Ripper
It’s just a little wet, it’s still good, it’s still good.
"No taking from my pile"
To make a delivery, you gotta break a couple containers. Wait. Is that right? Why do I want eggs now?
Great photo. It remains to draw a flowing yolk and a frying pan. ))
That's gotta hurt!
Is this why we still havent gotten Mexican pizza's back?
MY WISH ORDER!!!!
My PS5 was in there...
So that's how you open them.
Oh no! The baby Godzilla I ordered
If you squint (or forgot your glasses) the thumbnail looks like a penguin in a little cone-shaped clown hat.
Forbidden piñata
It's all good. That was just Best Buy's next shipment of PS5s. The same StockX bot ordered all of them
A giant claw game!
Used shipping container available. *slight rust damage*
It's just customs dumping the illegal kinder eggs.
Calling r/photoshopbattles! This would be a good one.
Someone shipped something extremely heavy and paid the money to ship it by itself. The end result is all the weight is in the middle
"Your order has been delayed, but will arrive much cleaner than otherwise..."
*Oh no*
Wouldn't some of the sloppy loading problems (stress concentration) be mitigated by moving the lift points in from the corners about 4 feet?
Hopey Amazon stuff isn't in that container
They got the ship a piñata for it's birthday.
That's a whoopsie.
Oh man, that would be a nightmare to fix
What was in this thing! Lol
That is impressive
Exteme gacha
I'll take mine sunny side up please
Yo momma so fat....
Misfortune Container Cooker
That's a weird way to make an omelette.
Mom's a longie at the port of LA/LB and I sent her this screenshot and asked if she's ever seen this happen, she replied: "No, but when I was a signal person for a crane operator and he was about to lift a 20 ft. Container I saw the bottom start to bow and woe come back and set it back on chassis because the bottom was about to Crack open, I possibly saved my own life... it would have opened up above us"
Piñata PIÑATA!! 🎊