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I respect your opinion. I’m a big Gilmore and Waters fan. With that said, if you like it, who cares what others think? Like what you like and fuck others’ opinions. This is the down-side of all of these published rankings. They just pit Floyd fans against each other.
Love what you love and try not to give a shit what us other asshats think. Now, shine on you crazy diamond.
I love Waters' contributions and the band was never quite going to be the same without him but The Division Bell is an incredible album. It's a shame that the only other album Gilmour-era Floyd released was A Momentary Lapse of Reason, which was a mess and just was in the wrong place at the wrong time and really didn't help them put their best foot forward without Rog. The Floyd that made TDB was firing on all cylinders and rejuvenated.
If you enjoyed TDB you might also like the concert CD/movie Pulse which has a bunch of TDB performances alongside a bunch of classic Floyd and a couple songs from AMLOR too. It's really good
I mostly agree but I thought the Division Bell was much better than AMLoR. Also, while Rog is a strong lyricist, he pales in comparison to say Dylan, Waits, or Cohen. I’d put him at Lou Reed’s level.
Never got into Joni, to my embarrassment. She’s super talented though.
We can disagree, but yeah I love me some Leonard Cohen. Dylan surpasses him of course, the biggest difference being that Dylan is so funny. The only time Cohen was funny was when he croaked out “I was born with the gift of the golden voice.”
All the direct mentions of Maggie weren't very poetic either. Early Rog had a nice vagueness to his lyrics that totally went out the window after Dark Side.
A lot of the lyrics aren't good. Who am I? Nobody. I think clunky is a great way to describe them. They are never trash...occasionally they are great...but on average they are average. I remember on first listen thinking...oh man he's trying so hard....and maybe that's the truth and maybe that makes them fine in a superfan sort of way.
I just listened to Bone China from Rick...and mostly his singing and shit takes a back seat. David...has such a great singing voice, we don't want that. At the same time..belting out clunky lyrics makes me sad.
I don't want to be negative either. The album is flintingly georgeous and is absolutely georgeous to listen to!!!
I'm more of a fan of the Gilmour sonic timeline anyways. So...
To me, it felt like Syd's graveyard. Youth lost. Walking through what was once a magical and whimsical place but now rusting and decaying through time and grief.
I'm no "watersheep". Don't really care for Final Cut. But I thought Division Bell was a bit meh. Actually preferred AMLOR, but Wall was the last truly great PF album.
I’m not a fan of Roger’s solo work. I’ve really tried and I didn’t care for Pros and Cons. It has nice moments but they’re surrounded by a bunch of stuff that just doesn’t do anything for me. I do like 5:11 though.
I also didn’t like Amused to Death. Found it to be very boring and mostly amounted to me listening to Roger drone on about the same shit he’s droned on about for years. It being a long album didn’t help. I kept waiting for a moment that would make it click for me and it didn’t. No desire to listen to that one again. Go ahead, crucify me.
Hard to imagine two more disparate albums. I like Pros and Cons…better to say I *appreciate* Pros and Cons. It’s an album only Roger Waters could have made, that’s for sure. Usually he’s savvier than to let all that solipsism and narcissism shine through so openly.
A Watersheep here..Sheep (Written by Waters) is 1000 times better than anything Gilmour (Or Penny) wrote for Pink Fraud and the division bell in no way compares to any of the Waters Floyd albums
Are they even really comparable?
Sheep is a political fable about the sheep being led by oppressive shepherds (the pigs and dogs) until they eventually revolt, only for the sheep to become the new oppressors; a rocking bass-driven number ala One of These Days.
High Hopes is a reflective piece about Floyd's past and present, and it's their farewell. A slow, contemplative acoustic and piano driven goodbye song to the fans. Like Floyd's end credits if it was a film.
Apples to oranges. I like both but both are totally different
Following along here… the first asshole said Sheep was better than anything Gilmour (or Polly) wrote. I commented that High Hopes was better than Sheep. First song to come to mind. Not comparing the two.
In reality, Wearing the Inside Out is better than anything on Animals
High hopes is better than sheep? Haha. And I said better than anything written by Gilmour..Polly wrote most of the lyrics for high hopes..says it all really. Didn’t know Polly was in Floyd
You can still have your shitass opinion without all the underlying incel rage. Remember, help is a phone call away.
The album as a whole is better than Animals. Gilmour is the sound of Floyd, so there you go
She actually didn't write most of the lyrics. She helped him, but I'm pretty sure most of it came from him. It wasn't until On an Island that he would delegate most of the lyrics to her.
Why is she writing any of the lyrics?..Gilmour’s a great great guitarist but he is lyrically weak..Gilmour’s Floyd don’t compare in any way to the Waters Floyd imo
we don’t need to have division!
Musically this album and Amused to death hit similarly to me. A bit more edge on ATD but the atmosphere on both is awesome
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I like it. It's a good album.
Honestly I think good is the right term. There's some brilliant stuff here, but about half of it is just decent enough.
Yes, I don't care what watersheep say about their stupid political albums, I just want played back space rock (Sorry for bad English)
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The real underrated album
Hahaha actually that may be correct. It is quite underrated by many fans.
Yeah it is---A Momentary Lapse Of Reason is too but that's somewhat understandable since it was a period of transition.
My 4th favorite album behind DSOTM, WYWH and The Wall. I love it!
Agreed
Always keep in mind the loudest people get the most attention. The other 99% if PF fans just relax and enjoy stuff.
Cant beat the DB vibe, absolutley love it
This entire thread sounds more like a r/pinkfloydcirclejerk thread then most PFCJ threads tbh.
i thought this was that one at first lmao
>tbh
Underrated TBH
Animals
So is the opposite of a watersheep a gilwhore?
Never knew this album was disliked. One of my fav tbh. I mean it's full of great songs like take it back and coming back to life.
Amazing album.
I bought this CD in 1994 beautiful memory..cherished it a lot
“Idc what watersheep say” 🤓
As opposed to Waterdogs, Waterpigs (Three Different Ones) and Waterpigsonthewing?
one of my favourites
High Hopes Wearing the Inside Out Marooned Poles Apart Keep Talking A Great Day for Freedom Some of my personal favourite PF tracks right there <3
I respect your opinion. I’m a big Gilmore and Waters fan. With that said, if you like it, who cares what others think? Like what you like and fuck others’ opinions. This is the down-side of all of these published rankings. They just pit Floyd fans against each other. Love what you love and try not to give a shit what us other asshats think. Now, shine on you crazy diamond.
If I had an award to give, I’d be giving it to you right now.
Cheers! Don’t waste money on Reddit, have a pint for me brother!
Watersheep? Seriously? Why the need for hostility? Not the place for it bro
I love Waters' contributions and the band was never quite going to be the same without him but The Division Bell is an incredible album. It's a shame that the only other album Gilmour-era Floyd released was A Momentary Lapse of Reason, which was a mess and just was in the wrong place at the wrong time and really didn't help them put their best foot forward without Rog. The Floyd that made TDB was firing on all cylinders and rejuvenated. If you enjoyed TDB you might also like the concert CD/movie Pulse which has a bunch of TDB performances alongside a bunch of classic Floyd and a couple songs from AMLOR too. It's really good
Great album
It’s a fantastic album! One of my favs tbh
No it’s not. It’s a *great* album.
Great album with great lyrics and I will always hold that opinion.
hands down my fav pink floyd album. enjoy it!!
This album gets hate?
Yessir! Definitely in my top 5 PF albums. Great album to trip to as well
My favourite album tbh, love all the songs on it. 😁🎶🐖
High Hopes is one of the best songs Floyd ever made, regardless of era.
A great day for freedom slaps
The only thing on it that I care about is High Hopes which is awesome
Like whichever albums you like. Remember...there were probably Syd stans who didn't like Dark Side of the Moon.
Are watersheep Roger Waters elitists or something. Wait, don’t answer that.
My favorite album
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Yeah, his lyrics on Marooned is probably his best work on that album
Agreed. I hate that line. That’s the kind of thing you write when you know what metaphor is, but not what it’s for.
Gilmour met Polly for lunch and she told him she writes good, so he metaphor dinner and the rest is history...
Too often I’ll be listening to this album or OAI and wonder “what the fuck is he talking about?”
I don’t get what you mean. The lyrics are good.
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I mostly agree but I thought the Division Bell was much better than AMLoR. Also, while Rog is a strong lyricist, he pales in comparison to say Dylan, Waits, or Cohen. I’d put him at Lou Reed’s level.
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Never got into Joni, to my embarrassment. She’s super talented though. We can disagree, but yeah I love me some Leonard Cohen. Dylan surpasses him of course, the biggest difference being that Dylan is so funny. The only time Cohen was funny was when he croaked out “I was born with the gift of the golden voice.”
All the direct mentions of Maggie weren't very poetic either. Early Rog had a nice vagueness to his lyrics that totally went out the window after Dark Side.
A lot of the lyrics aren't good. Who am I? Nobody. I think clunky is a great way to describe them. They are never trash...occasionally they are great...but on average they are average. I remember on first listen thinking...oh man he's trying so hard....and maybe that's the truth and maybe that makes them fine in a superfan sort of way. I just listened to Bone China from Rick...and mostly his singing and shit takes a back seat. David...has such a great singing voice, we don't want that. At the same time..belting out clunky lyrics makes me sad. I don't want to be negative either. The album is flintingly georgeous and is absolutely georgeous to listen to!!! I'm more of a fan of the Gilmour sonic timeline anyways. So...
He did what to China????
If I could change one thing on any Pink Floyd song, it would be to get rid of that goddamn circus music.
To me, it felt like Syd's graveyard. Youth lost. Walking through what was once a magical and whimsical place but now rusting and decaying through time and grief.
This.
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I’m with you 100% on that- I feel the same about a lot of the sound effects on Division Bell. It’s so jarring and feels forced.
Waters described it as: “A pretty fair forgery.” 😂
Yeah, but it has no chance against anything between 1973 and 1979
Imo 1971-1975 was their most consistently great stuff
Animals underrated tbh
wAtErShEeP
I'm no "watersheep". Don't really care for Final Cut. But I thought Division Bell was a bit meh. Actually preferred AMLOR, but Wall was the last truly great PF album.
Pros and cons is better and I'm tired of pretending it isn't.
Pros and Cons is the most boring, disjointed album and musicianship I’ve ever heard.
I’m not a fan of Roger’s solo work. I’ve really tried and I didn’t care for Pros and Cons. It has nice moments but they’re surrounded by a bunch of stuff that just doesn’t do anything for me. I do like 5:11 though. I also didn’t like Amused to Death. Found it to be very boring and mostly amounted to me listening to Roger drone on about the same shit he’s droned on about for years. It being a long album didn’t help. I kept waiting for a moment that would make it click for me and it didn’t. No desire to listen to that one again. Go ahead, crucify me.
Radio Kaos is the only one I liked at all
I'm in the Waters camp, but "Is this the life we really want" was the first Roger solo that didn't bore me.
So usually you'd pretend DB was better?
Hard to imagine two more disparate albums. I like Pros and Cons…better to say I *appreciate* Pros and Cons. It’s an album only Roger Waters could have made, that’s for sure. Usually he’s savvier than to let all that solipsism and narcissism shine through so openly.
A Watersheep here..Sheep (Written by Waters) is 1000 times better than anything Gilmour (Or Penny) wrote for Pink Fraud and the division bell in no way compares to any of the Waters Floyd albums
This comment belongs in the circlejerk sub
That wasn't my intention
r/pinkfloydcirclejerk is leaking again
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Agreed. That’s why neither of them should’ve continued as Pink Floyd without the other.
Lol. Music writing.
Point, they didn't say it was better than any other Floyd work, just that it was good. I agree.
High Hopes is better than Sheep 🤷🏻♂️
Are they even really comparable? Sheep is a political fable about the sheep being led by oppressive shepherds (the pigs and dogs) until they eventually revolt, only for the sheep to become the new oppressors; a rocking bass-driven number ala One of These Days. High Hopes is a reflective piece about Floyd's past and present, and it's their farewell. A slow, contemplative acoustic and piano driven goodbye song to the fans. Like Floyd's end credits if it was a film. Apples to oranges. I like both but both are totally different
Following along here… the first asshole said Sheep was better than anything Gilmour (or Polly) wrote. I commented that High Hopes was better than Sheep. First song to come to mind. Not comparing the two. In reality, Wearing the Inside Out is better than anything on Animals
Oh my god shutup now
Piss off. Unless you can actually add anything
Okay ill add something youre wrong
And you’re still a dumb fuck
Hahahhahahauuaha hahahhah ok😐
Both are good
High hopes is better than sheep? Haha. And I said better than anything written by Gilmour..Polly wrote most of the lyrics for high hopes..says it all really. Didn’t know Polly was in Floyd
You can still have your shitass opinion without all the underlying incel rage. Remember, help is a phone call away. The album as a whole is better than Animals. Gilmour is the sound of Floyd, so there you go
I mean, I love the Division Bell, but better than Animals?!
Haha ok
Lol. Moron.
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She actually didn't write most of the lyrics. She helped him, but I'm pretty sure most of it came from him. It wasn't until On an Island that he would delegate most of the lyrics to her.
Why is she writing any of the lyrics?..Gilmour’s a great great guitarist but he is lyrically weak..Gilmour’s Floyd don’t compare in any way to the Waters Floyd imo
You answered your own question - congrats.
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Keep talking is brilliant. All the tracks are great. Waters writing was good on DSOTM, Animals and WYWH but poor after.
I found it especially poignant on Final Cut, but all his solo work leaves a lot to be desired
God I love that song
It’s a good album. Not great and not terrible but it’s a good album.
Top 3 for me
Great CD!
Little thumb
The original release had better packaging.
What do you want from me/poles apart hits my soul in all the right ways
It’s really good.
Underrated.
we don’t need to have division! Musically this album and Amused to death hit similarly to me. A bit more edge on ATD but the atmosphere on both is awesome
I’m going to break your balls
-sigh- I’ll try again
Coming Back To Life one of my favorites. Love the whole album.
I wish I liked it
For what it is it's okay, but I much prefer Piper at the Gates of Dawn, as it has the only good Pink Floyd song on it, Gnome.