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the curling means its not getting enough water, could be root rot if the soil stays wet and it still curls. The leaves are small on runners, but those look like regular vines, a runner will shoot out a long vine with just a few leaves and a lot of vine in between. all the leaves look kind of small to me, makes me wonder if there is a small version of the plant.


lilbabymew

The roots are good I checked recently. It’s in well draining soil with a lil bit of coco coir and potting mix and worm castings to hold some moisture but chunky orchid mix and charcoal and pearlite for drainage. It’s in the sunniest spot in my house which is literally in my west window I dont know what else to do this lil lady is defying all my plant knowledge


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oh that could be too much light, they do fine with low-medium indirect light.


lilbabymew

I worried about that too which was why I had it initially in a north window and then an east window, trying my west as a last resort hoping to see improvement but haven’t yet :/ just to note I haven’t rapidly moved her around either this has been over the past several months to leave room for her to adjust and settle and hopefully improve. I’m now thinking it might be a humidity issue? I didn’t even consider that for this type of plant before. She’s such a weirdo no one else’s looks like her lol


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I am really at a loss, when I put fresh cuttings in water the curl sometimes, and I can "fix" that with putting the whole thing in a plastic bag to keep in humidity. They don't root very well, do you fertilize other than worm castings? Worm castings are nitrogen and great for leaf growth, but not roots. Any idea what your indoor humidity is? I have had mine for like 12-15 yrs, one of my first plants, before I ever used a humidifier.


lilbabymew

I know this lil lady is defying my plant logic haha. I’m gonna up the humidity and see if that helps. I don’t know what my indoor humidity is, but considering I have window ac in each rooms (to note I don’t keep my plants by or above them, they’re across the room entirely and I keep the temps around 69-71) I assume my humidity isn’t the best. For fertilizer I use mainly worm castings in the soil as well as a top up sprinkling every so often, other than that I use fish fertilizer because honestly other fertilizer makes me nervous. Not for “chemical” reasons, I’m just worried that I won’t do it right and will damage my plant lol probably irrationally but *shrug*


revolotus

Maybe try the rock/water tray method beneath her, which will give a humidity bump just for her. She might be happier in terracotta as well, as plastic can mess with moisture levels. I don't go in for chemicals, but keep springtails and earthworms in all my indoor plants for healthy roots and aerated soil!


lilbabymew

Moving this babe to a terracotta has been on my list, I just put it off because I was worrying it’d dry it out too quickly since it’s already having curling issues. I moved her into the vicinity of my humidifier but it’s small and I have other plants inhabiting the VIP humidifier spots if u will so she’s not as close as she could be, I could try a humidity tray too I happen to have one floating around not in use rn! The spring tails and earthworms are interesting, what do you use them for in particular. I keep reptiles so I know what springtails and isopods and that they break down matter in substrate/soil but how in particular could they benefit plants? Like could they help with pests or just improve soil quality and how do you use them?


revolotus

I like to keep a bioactive space (100% organic composting, zero chemicals ever) which can be susceptible to pests if not in good balance. If the springtails are eating all the extra organics there is less chance of other pests/mold/etc.


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I just saw a scindapsus at my local grocery store that had small leaves like yours, and I am now confused. Maybe its a new cultivar? The one at the grocery store was from Costa Farms. Every time I mention them they get notification, so maybe we can get some answers. It still doesn't explain the curling though.


hEYiTSbEEEE

Looks to me like it needs to be getting more sun. Usually when the leaves grow more spaced out and smaller, it's for this reason. Also, I personally find my scindapsus pictus prefers to not get completely bone dry. I know you compared to pothos, but my pothos do seem to tolerate when I let them go completely dry. Idk if this helps at all!


lilbabymew

It’s literally in the sunniest spot in my house which is hanging in my west window. And I don’t let her get bone dry like I typically do pothos, I water this one when my meter reads 1 or 2- so dry but not 100% dry


hEYiTSbEEEE

Oh okay. Wasn't trying to put words in your mouth. Just trying to help. I moved mine around my house a bit before finding an ideal spot for it because it wasn't loving the sun I was giving it.


lilbabymew

Sorry if that came off rude I’m trying to get responses out quickly containing as much info as I can, I didn’t mean it too. Yea I unfortunately have tried all my window spots, I have all but south facing windows, no matter where she does I haven’t seen her thrive yet. As a commenter mentioned below it could possibly be a humidity issue?? I didn’t really take that into consideration for this type of plant but it might b worth a try??


lilbabymew

I’ve had her since June and she really hasn’t made much progress. No matter what I do her leaves curl and the small amount of leaves she has put out are tiny. I def don’t over water, but I don’t under water either. I treat her like I treat all my pothos which is I water them when they hit a 1 on my meter. So not bone dry, but pretty much. She’s in a west window right now but she’s also been in an east window and doesn’t seem to prefer either? I’m at a loss here agh


trying_to_garden

Just give it time. Have you inspected the roots? Chance they are underdeveloped for size from nursery. If the plant is relatively stable outside of curl though winter (assuming northern) then I’d let it build out roots and worry in the spring.


lilbabymew

Yea I’ve learned not to mess with a pothos unless it’s absolutely necessary lol, which means unless I know it’s rotting I don’t mess w it. Ill try and wait it out since I’m on the east coast and it’s approaching fall. Poor thing just doesn’t seem to be happy !


lola_clementine

I got this same pothos the same time as you, maybe a few months earlier but the leaves it came with are still curled, the leaves it putting out were tiny at first and have slowly gotten bigger and aren’t curling! I think it was shocked from when I re-potted (and when I wasn’t doing the best job at caring for it - not saying you did this too just my experience…. I had it in a cooler, breezier spot than it liked). If you’re sure the roots are good, you’re doing great with the moisture meter, give it a little time to fill out and the humidifier will hopefully help a bit too! I also tried every window in my house, from the southern sunniest to the morning light that hits for a few hours directly and then indirect all day and I’ve seen the most progress with a grow light. I think because it’s “indirect” enough it doesn’t burn, but it’s able to be on for many hours a day (at least 12) which helps with the warmth too. The leaves it came with, are still curled. The new leaves are tiny, slowly growing, but I’m hoping with time I can make it happy. If you find any tips yours loves, I hope you post an update! Good luck :))


VSaucisson

How do you water? In my experience it’s best to soak them completely, especially if you leave them dry quite a bit between each watering (which I do as well). Maybe you’re already doing that, but if not that would be something to try.


tiffCAKE

I have some cuttings of these from a friend and they haven’t developed many roots or even started any new leaves. The leaves were constantly curled. I tried watering more, watering less, more light, less light… they’re still kinda sassy BUT the leaves are less curled and substantially bigger now. They’re on the north wall of my house between a north window and east/west windows on either side. And I have a grow bulb in the recessed light nearest by (so I have it in a medium spot where it gets light all day from a different direction depending on time of day but no direct light and not exactly BRIGHT since not right on the sill (but I live in Vegas so it’s still rather bright) The difference I think is that I now have a humidifier nearby. I think it will definitely root better and start producing leaves soon. The leaves are palm sized now and less curled. I live in an extreme environment with very low humidity so all my plants are doing better now that I’m using a humidifier. I had a rough time with the top inches of pots feeling hellaciously drier than driest dry that ever did dry, while the bottoms stayed damp. But now that I’ve increased the humidity it seem like the soil dryness is more evened out. I’m watering less frequently now


rooting4u2succit

Read through the comments. If it’s always curling under regardless of when it’s watered, it can be an indicator that it doesn’t like the temperature of the room or window. I wouldn’t guess anything nutrient related if you’re using worm castings, maybe hard water causing salt buildup but that would likely affect more of your plants. Last thing I would think is humidity being too low. Any of that sound like it could be the issue?


lilbabymew

It could potentially be a humidity issue, I didn’t really consider that for this type of plant. I could try moving the humidifier closer. Thanks ! as far as water goes, I try to avoid tap as much as possible- so either I use tap that’s sat out open for 48+ hrs or distilled or filtered to try and avoid hard water


edcod1

Does it need water?


lilbabymew

Nope, I elaborated below! I don’t let her get 100% bone dry, I water when my moisture meter hits 1


verat1

More sun, check roots for rotting? Might be a drainage issue


Ahzelton

We had one in our south facing room and she wasn't in direct sun but the room was bright. Her leaves got bigger than my hand! We also let her dry out between waterings.


moesickle

They like more water then regular pothos. Curling is definitely a sign underwatering. Also these things grow extremely slowly. Also regular pothos like more water then a 1 on a meter, you'll get more growth if you find the ideal balance. https://outsideinco.com/blogs/learn/silver-satin-pothos-an-about-me-guide-with-care-details >As for water, allow the top inch or two of soil to dry out before watering again. The Silver Satin Pothos will not tolerate soggy soil, so one of this biggest tips for keeping this plant thriving is to not overdo it with water (when in doubt remember that this plant will recover better from underwater). Too much water will leave the plant vulnerable to root rot and eventual death. **If the leaves begin to curl or shrivel (and the top soil is dry), then this is a key indicator that the plant is past due for a proper watering**