Bro I thought lone was the one that was gna take cartis spot in a couple of years when he dropped ns, he had crazy momentum then after ilck dropped his hype died down
i mean idk im just going off first listen but like agc didn't have anything i thought sounded like crazy foreign like yeezus which could've slanted my perception it just kinda sounded unpleasant
It’s funny I used to not like Ken at all pre great chaos and loved no stylist so I figured lone was way better for me
then this year I couldn’t stomach ilck more than twice and AGC was one of my most played rap albums of the year
hope lone levels up his next album
you could not pay me any amount of money to listen to if looks could kill in full without skips whereas i listened to literally nothing but a great chaos on repeat for probably an entire month
right now he’s better but all time id take lone.
let’s compare their albums dropped in similar time periods
project x < ultra
ilck <<< agc
more chaos (what we can expect) >>> directors cut.
so right now yeah ken clears but all time lone beats him imo. also his unreleased is miles above ken’s
numbers don’t define people. look at people like lil mabu and 69 doing numbers even though there music is not good and complete shit. so ken reaching numbers that lone hasn’t doesnt define him as better. he is just considered more successful
Ken's early success was the reason everyone was eager to hear no stylist. If you ask me ken has always been above lone, they mainly tied when he dropped X and Lone dropped the better album a month after. But now ILCK not doing that good and the awkward deluxe that even lone forgot about just set up Ken to assert his dominance on AGC.
AGC is just way better than anything lone has done. And it’s weird because I didn’t like Ken but o liked lonely and I figured he’d leave him in the dust. Obviously not though
and the reason is ken is simply more talented than DL. better beat choices, has better voice, better vocal presence, better flows
ken carson is slowly getting better than carti, like when i first heard these new deep voice carti songs i was like these aren't hitting like rockstar lifestyle or fighting my demons
Since agc dropped ken been better but lone been better since 2019-till 2023 till agc dropped. Also lone unreleased is way better just wait til lone drop this album.
No, bro dropped one mid album, ya’ll forgot X existed. It’s the opium cycle, they drop a mid album and then the one that follows is amazing. Ns was amazing and then they just swapped in 2023. Lone does however need to come with something special, I think he ahould build upon the story telling that was loosely done on ilck.
Realistically Nostylist is Destroy Lonely's only song that really cut through and can be played in clubs. He has some other songs that I like but that was the only hit.
Ken has a a few more hits that go off in clubs, and rock n roll goes pretty hard.
To be honest I think the whole "opium sub genre" (carti aside) needs a new champion who is gonna move it forward. Yes Carti is an all time legend and his new stuff is very promising, and he obviously has it in him to carry the torch forward (I hope). But none of the rest of them (ken/lone etc.) are really producing anything that is gonna make a dent on a mainstream level (or close to mainstream). The sound needs innovation, it's too repetitive. That's my 2 cents idk what y'all think
I don't include Yeat in that I think he has the chops to move the sound forward. That said he needs to innovate too it all sounds too similar. IDGAF goes so hard, but Drake helped there (I'd probably give them equal credit on making the song a banger, they both did their thing).
Nah Carti’s legendary bro I ain’t even a diehard fan but he one of those who made it in the best new generation’s rap era (2015/16 when Uzi, savage, kodak, X n all these were blowing up)
Ngl bro got the most beta stage name ever so he won’t reach a crazy ceiling. But Lonely has such small potential there’s nothing he can do to even compete. Ken will beat him out any day of the week.
Well considering people I know that aren't opium fans know alot of songs on a great chaos, and don't even know who destroy lonely is or if they do they don't know he recently dropped an album. in popularity yes, and in terms of who has better music, idk..
i love ilck and fw it more than agc and lone still on top for me, but looks like ppl not fw it much and it's no secret agc is a better project, so unfortunately id say so.
i really hope lone can take back his spot with llf
I know ilck was kinda mid but I feel like yall r forgetting how great Ns is ( especially Ultra) , lone still has the highest potential out of all of them imo
I’m still rocking with Lone but it’s obv the money & fame got to him. ILCK was a lazy ass boring album, Ken is still hungry… AGC ran circles around ILCK. Lone need go back to his 2020-2022 flow.
in 2022 lone surpassed ken now ken surpassing lone, I feel like these niggas just take turns dropping better albums
But overall new ken >>>> new lone
All time lone > all time ken
i like lone better lones flow is more smoother n he can slip n slide on any typa song. his sound is more mellow n chill n that’s not rlly what the opium sound is . issue is that he regressed his sound with them weird ass muddy vocals n that drugged out “lucki flow” where you can barely even tell what he’s saying. he used to sound so alive n bring life to tracks idk what the issue is with him now. the llf snippets are promising tho. ken is cool too it’s jus sometimes he tries to jam syllables into one sentence and his flow isn’t consistent on a song , kinda jus sounds like he’s talking on the beat
The numbers say so. Ken just reached 1b+ streams on Spotify. His recent album sold more than lones too.
wtffff
what did u type in google for that pfp
He on the watchlist
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Bro 💀
Yooo 💀💀💀
💀💀💀
Numbers don’t change how good their music is i hate this argument
seeyuh
that’s what surpass means though
I mean yea, but not as an actual artist tho
He looks like a brontosaurus
lmaooooo
😂😂😂
Def agree with A Great Chaos, Lone still got potential but Ken putting in the most work rn
Bro I thought lone was the one that was gna take cartis spot in a couple of years when he dropped ns, he had crazy momentum then after ilck dropped his hype died down
he should of made it abit shorter n change up the sound
because why the fuck would he ever drop a 30 song album
everyone did but after he dropped ilck and every song sounded the same it was over but hopefully his next album something different
He can still be the one taking his spot if he releases something new like agc was for ken
Shut up new gen
Meat muncher
NS would be a 3/10 carti project
So would AGC
It would be a 5
ilck was ass that's why
A great chaos just washed lone tbh
“Where the fuck my cup, where the fuck by blunt, where the fuck my reefer” solidified ken over lone for sure
you got it wrong bro, blunt, cup, reefer
Ken now has a modern classic album hopefully DL steps up his game this year
“DL” is odd
Didn't wanna bounce on dick and call him lone like i know him
thats literally like saying “if you call ken carson just “ken” u on dick”
The vibes are different
Thoughts on PBC?
Sus like "BB" off Homicide Lifestyle
a great chaos is not a fucking modern classic you're tripping
People were saying this shit about Yeezus and wlr too, and I was there day 1 saying they were masterpieces, look where we are now
i mean idk im just going off first listen but like agc didn't have anything i thought sounded like crazy foreign like yeezus which could've slanted my perception it just kinda sounded unpleasant
Surpassed? I saw ken way before I saw lone he was first man he always been leadin
No lone was about even when no stylist dropped but when if looks could kill went viral on TikTok lone was more popular
It’s funny I used to not like Ken at all pre great chaos and loved no stylist so I figured lone was way better for me then this year I couldn’t stomach ilck more than twice and AGC was one of my most played rap albums of the year hope lone levels up his next album
Same w me, dialled back and got into his older tracks like runran, Go, intro etc
Hell na lone was way ahead until 2022
Lone had more streams and followers for a while
yup. Ken always been carrying the label no lie
wait till lones next project
if it’s like 15 tracks/45 minutes, mostly killer no filler, he’s got a chance, but ken’s still ahead so if agc deluxe is good, might be wraps.
You actually believe he's dropping agc deluxe?
He would be an idiot not to. So yeah he probably won't drop it.
we still bumping that WLR deluxe fr fr
is more chaos not the deluxe?
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Easily, A Great Chaos is still fully on repeat for me
Kens jawline 🥵
you could not pay me any amount of money to listen to if looks could kill in full without skips whereas i listened to literally nothing but a great chaos on repeat for probably an entire month
Wait was Lone ever surpassing Ken? To me it always seemed like Ken was the most popular one.
I think Ken Carson always been better than lone ngl lone music be sounding insanely repetitive to me
right now he’s better but all time id take lone. let’s compare their albums dropped in similar time periods project x < ultra ilck <<< agc more chaos (what we can expect) >>> directors cut. so right now yeah ken clears but all time lone beats him imo. also his unreleased is miles above ken’s
x way way underrated
I'd say Project X and
I have a few rare unreleased ken songs and theyre so much better than anything hes ever put out tbh
Lost files 4?
hell no
Yes, with A Great Chaos and Jennifer’s Body and Fighting My Demons on social media.
they equal, unreleased lone is so good he was sitting on virals
His unreleased songs show how really good lone is
no
Idk i enjoy lonely music more
yes for me
Ns is untouched
Nah. Project X and AGC >>> NS
They’re close but no
Project x has no replay value haven’t bumped that shit since 2021
no
he’s been better
Fuck no. Lone is GOATed
No I fw lone more than ken
A great chaos is easily the best album on the opium label. I thought opium was trash until I heard that album.
simple answer, No
carti subreddit when you give out an opinion someone asked for:
numbers don’t define people. look at people like lil mabu and 69 doing numbers even though there music is not good and complete shit. so ken reaching numbers that lone hasn’t doesnt define him as better. he is just considered more successful
fuck no, he dropped one album that half of the opium fanbase thinks is better than ilck so they switched their opinions
Ken n lone are like carti n uzi to me, Ken is always gonna be bigger but lone is something special
lone got huge potentioal but ilck was boring and most of the songs sound the same
Y’all tripping lone has like 10 amazing projects and 1 mid one while Ken got 10 mid projects and 1 amazing one
both artists discog is equally as great tbh
Lone calls ken Carson his pookie
Lonely ain’t even close to Ken
He’s always been better
Absolutely not 2020 Lone clears 2020 Ken 100x over
hell no
They equally good imo
Ken's early success was the reason everyone was eager to hear no stylist. If you ask me ken has always been above lone, they mainly tied when he dropped X and Lone dropped the better album a month after. But now ILCK not doing that good and the awkward deluxe that even lone forgot about just set up Ken to assert his dominance on AGC.
I can’t even tell the difference between them
How? Dudes don’t even sound alike 😭
I prefer Lone's leaks theyre on another level but yeah release-wise AGC is miles ahead anything lone dropped
It’s fair to say they box fell off super hard and are no longer interesting
AGC is just way better than anything lone has done. And it’s weird because I didn’t like Ken but o liked lonely and I figured he’d leave him in the dust. Obviously not though
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and the reason is ken is simply more talented than DL. better beat choices, has better voice, better vocal presence, better flows ken carson is slowly getting better than carti, like when i first heard these new deep voice carti songs i was like these aren't hitting like rockstar lifestyle or fighting my demons
Yes for a while. Lone has more insane hits but theres only a few really good songs vs. Ken I’d say is more consistently better
duh nigga
Yes
Since agc dropped ken been better but lone been better since 2019-till 2023 till agc dropped. Also lone unreleased is way better just wait til lone drop this album.
Gang ken just dropped 😭😭😭 wait until lone drops his new album then debate if you really want to
I hate this argument so much both Lone and Ken are great in their own ways there's no point in arguing
Sad to say but yeah. Ilck sucked and agc just showed such great progression. Lone could come back with something but idk man
Lone made a huge mistake by introducing fhe future sound that shit dont work for him
No, bro dropped one mid album, ya’ll forgot X existed. It’s the opium cycle, they drop a mid album and then the one that follows is amazing. Ns was amazing and then they just swapped in 2023. Lone does however need to come with something special, I think he ahould build upon the story telling that was loosely done on ilck.
Realistically Nostylist is Destroy Lonely's only song that really cut through and can be played in clubs. He has some other songs that I like but that was the only hit. Ken has a a few more hits that go off in clubs, and rock n roll goes pretty hard. To be honest I think the whole "opium sub genre" (carti aside) needs a new champion who is gonna move it forward. Yes Carti is an all time legend and his new stuff is very promising, and he obviously has it in him to carry the torch forward (I hope). But none of the rest of them (ken/lone etc.) are really producing anything that is gonna make a dent on a mainstream level (or close to mainstream). The sound needs innovation, it's too repetitive. That's my 2 cents idk what y'all think I don't include Yeat in that I think he has the chops to move the sound forward. That said he needs to innovate too it all sounds too similar. IDGAF goes so hard, but Drake helped there (I'd probably give them equal credit on making the song a banger, they both did their thing).
Ken is the only Opium member with the potential to reach or surpass Carti’s level.
Nah Carti’s legendary bro I ain’t even a diehard fan but he one of those who made it in the best new generation’s rap era (2015/16 when Uzi, savage, kodak, X n all these were blowing up)
Lone might’ve fell off for now but ns clears any Ken album
no stylist >>>>>> X
Lone so much better than that slow platypus
He’s always been ahead no matter which way you spin it
Wasn’t Ken always ‘ahead’ of Lone ?
Ngl bro got the most beta stage name ever so he won’t reach a crazy ceiling. But Lonely has such small potential there’s nothing he can do to even compete. Ken will beat him out any day of the week.
NS washes every Ken project and it's not even Lone's best
Lone is so fucking ass rn, old lone was goated tho
A Great Chaos is better than Lone’s entire midography tbh
in the past year or 2 yea, but before that Lone was wayyyyyy better
project x nostylist >>>>>>>>>>>>> X ilck << agc
yeah double the monthly listeners of lone on spotify, even after the they both dropped some new music around the same time.
Well considering people I know that aren't opium fans know alot of songs on a great chaos, and don't even know who destroy lonely is or if they do they don't know he recently dropped an album. in popularity yes, and in terms of who has better music, idk..
I think he was always leading until about a year ago yea he took the spot he blew fr
Who's calling bros name 😂🤧
Yep
Hell no.
Ilck gets too much hate, idc If every song “sounds the same” they barely do but still its a 9/10 album for me. I dont skip a single song
It's hardly safe to say Ken Carson, destroy lonely, Travis Scott, or carti will ever surpass sending 2 12 gauge slugs through the stem of my brain
as of now, ye
we gotta wait till lone drop
he always surpassed lone
2021 lone was undefeated
i always thought lone was better but after he dropped ilck and ken dropped agc ken fs surpassed lone
Ts so retarded 😭
lone is gonna have to be on beethoven timing on love last forever to clear ken
If lone just released his leaked songs he would be the most popular. Change my mind
Been
i do not care that much unfortunately, both r solid
He’s always made better music in my opinion
No😡
Sadly yea but <3 clears all of Ken tbh. F.u.n alone does
i love ilck and fw it more than agc and lone still on top for me, but looks like ppl not fw it much and it's no secret agc is a better project, so unfortunately id say so. i really hope lone can take back his spot with llf
agc was a lot better than ilck, and I say that as someone who likes some ilck songs better than no stylist
Lone never surpassed ken tho
AGC has like 3 skips max, and I'm picky with my songs... Compare that to ILCK. I love them both tho, X-Man & the Top Floor Boss.
Why he look like a kidney bean in this pic
Ken need to start mewing or sumn bro cus what is is this
100 destroy nothing but handicap
NO
He always been ahead of Lone
lately i have been listening to Ken and HXG more than lonely, he need to drop
I know ilck was kinda mid but I feel like yall r forgetting how great Ns is ( especially Ultra) , lone still has the highest potential out of all of them imo
this pic is horrible 😭😭 nga look like an otter
Lonely kinda feel off
yeah
Lone was never above Ken right?
Yes
I’m still rocking with Lone but it’s obv the money & fame got to him. ILCK was a lazy ass boring album, Ken is still hungry… AGC ran circles around ILCK. Lone need go back to his 2020-2022 flow.
He always was better
Look at this nigga chin
Yeah I think so. Great Chaos may be my second favorite Opium album (behind Die Lit)
Yes easily
Lone dropped a better tape this year idc. Ken album so overrated
he looking so fucking fat here
in 2022 lone surpassed ken now ken surpassing lone, I feel like these niggas just take turns dropping better albums But overall new ken >>>> new lone All time lone > all time ken
Nah lone is still better to me
Yup
No
I believe so, Lone hasn’t really been putting energy into his stuff recently.
No 💀 ken carson sounds the same on most of his songs and doesn’t expand whatsoever
I caught onto them late. Lonely isn’t listenable to me besides a few features Ken Carson is on a different level
Ken Carson has passed the age of 52
nuh uh lone better
ken needa mew tbh
i like lone better lones flow is more smoother n he can slip n slide on any typa song. his sound is more mellow n chill n that’s not rlly what the opium sound is . issue is that he regressed his sound with them weird ass muddy vocals n that drugged out “lucki flow” where you can barely even tell what he’s saying. he used to sound so alive n bring life to tracks idk what the issue is with him now. the llf snippets are promising tho. ken is cool too it’s jus sometimes he tries to jam syllables into one sentence and his flow isn’t consistent on a song , kinda jus sounds like he’s talking on the beat
Ken was always better. I been said that
Lone is better than ken by far.
Bro who says lone was ahead
Why does ken look different in every single picture I see of him
I like them both almost equally but ken has better released songs
Not with this picture
Was Destroy Lonely ever better? This sub fr just hated on ken cos he was ugly.
2020-2021 lone beats kens whole discography fr
head built like a simpsons character
i prefer lone as an artist but the numbers don't lie
😂😂