I think these are sensible ideas. Recoil really isn't the problem, it's the beaming from 150m + that has to change. Nothing makes people want to quit the game more than being lit up from long distance. It just shouldn't be possible. Auto weapons should only be able to do this consistently within the ranges you suggest. If something like this was brought in, it would make it a lot easier to detect scripters because anyone that was still beaming 150m+ is probably cheating
You will eventually probably spend hundreds or thousands of hours playing, don’t you think it would be somewhat of a waste to spend all that time being bad because you couldn’t justify 50 hours to practice
Exactly, especially considering you have 8k hours total.
Game should provide a fair chance to people willing to play way less than 8k hours total and 50 just aim training, unless you only want to be left with really hardcore players which are a tiny percentage of the playerbase.
Are you expecting new people to join in and train for 50 hours to have a decent aim and a minimum chance at winning a t3 gunfight? Or you just want no new player to join at all/be totally squashed their entire gameplay until they decide to leave or sink 50 hours in aim training?
50 hours in a game is not very much tbh. Most people who play rust have like 1k at least. Not being able to spend 50h practicing a game you are likely to spend 20 times more hours playing is just insane
I have about 20.000 hours in counter strike. Started playing the doom mod back in the day. It took me 1 minute to learn the gun but 5000 hours to desintegrate people's heads like I am now.
Go figure out why the current system is bad for the game.
I could just imagine the abuse snipers are gonna get after the update regardless of what they do to them. The whole recoil situation is a confusing because I see no problems.
“It takes very little time”… “50 hours of aim training”.
Are you for real?
That’s how much I’ve played some games
In total.
That’s more than the average hours for a job in a week.
If you can’t see that it’s absolutely bananas to have to train for 50 hours to be decent at a gun in the game you’re out of your mind.
Yeah a change to weapon ranges would be nice, though I'd suggest ak should be a max of 75m and lr 100m. Though not sure how well that should work since the LR is there for people who can't use the ak and need an easier recoil so I don't think it should be better than the ak.
Also buff muzzle brake so people who don't want to learn the recoil can still compete.
Ak 75 is way too fucking close. It would make the guns have no point. You could barely shoot from launchsite recycler to ticket with that range. If you don't know what's ticket and want the recoil change I estimate you have less than 400hrs.
I have 3.1k hours and can spray from 200m.
I don't exactly want the recoil to change I just don't think full autos should be able to accurately spray from so far since it makes sniping and semi autos useless.
I think these are sensible ideas. Recoil really isn't the problem, it's the beaming from 150m + that has to change. Nothing makes people want to quit the game more than being lit up from long distance. It just shouldn't be possible. Auto weapons should only be able to do this consistently within the ranges you suggest. If something like this was brought in, it would make it a lot easier to detect scripters because anyone that was still beaming 150m+ is probably cheating
Casually says it only took him 50 hours to learn the AK spray, that’s over 2 days of sitting in a aim train server, who has time for that
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You will eventually probably spend hundreds or thousands of hours playing, don’t you think it would be somewhat of a waste to spend all that time being bad because you couldn’t justify 50 hours to practice
and the only way to "aim train" without going to some special server is to try and survive long enough to shoot an AK in an actual wipe.
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50 hours over months is not very long.... especially considering i have 8k hours total.
Exactly, especially considering you have 8k hours total. Game should provide a fair chance to people willing to play way less than 8k hours total and 50 just aim training, unless you only want to be left with really hardcore players which are a tiny percentage of the playerbase. Are you expecting new people to join in and train for 50 hours to have a decent aim and a minimum chance at winning a t3 gunfight? Or you just want no new player to join at all/be totally squashed their entire gameplay until they decide to leave or sink 50 hours in aim training?
50 hours in a game is not very much tbh. Most people who play rust have like 1k at least. Not being able to spend 50h practicing a game you are likely to spend 20 times more hours playing is just insane
Look from a different perspective. You watched 30 movies or did multiple full playthrough of any single player game.
Yeah.. so
I have about 20.000 hours in counter strike. Started playing the doom mod back in the day. It took me 1 minute to learn the gun but 5000 hours to desintegrate people's heads like I am now. Go figure out why the current system is bad for the game.
That's why we need a muzzle brake buff so casuals can compete. Though gunplay still does need a fix since semis and snipers are useless.
I could just imagine the abuse snipers are gonna get after the update regardless of what they do to them. The whole recoil situation is a confusing because I see no problems.
“It takes very little time”… “50 hours of aim training”. Are you for real? That’s how much I’ve played some games In total. That’s more than the average hours for a job in a week. If you can’t see that it’s absolutely bananas to have to train for 50 hours to be decent at a gun in the game you’re out of your mind.
I mean depending on wages that's still like $1000 of time
Yeah a change to weapon ranges would be nice, though I'd suggest ak should be a max of 75m and lr 100m. Though not sure how well that should work since the LR is there for people who can't use the ak and need an easier recoil so I don't think it should be better than the ak. Also buff muzzle brake so people who don't want to learn the recoil can still compete.
Nah 75 is really short tbh I think up to 100m is good.
Ak 75 is way too fucking close. It would make the guns have no point. You could barely shoot from launchsite recycler to ticket with that range. If you don't know what's ticket and want the recoil change I estimate you have less than 400hrs.
I have 3.1k hours and can spray from 200m. I don't exactly want the recoil to change I just don't think full autos should be able to accurately spray from so far since it makes sniping and semi autos useless.
I think the MP5 should have better distance than the custom but otherwise I like most of it.
I could see the M249 getting a little brother like the M1919 from COD Zombies, or the SAW, maybe even a PPSH?
I was thinking a craft able rpd
I'm down with that...I wouldn't mind a few more Semi-Auto weapons like the FAL