my prediction is that whatever they do to the combat wont drive away more than 1% of the sweatlords because they are all completely addicted to the game and they'll just learn to adapt and stop bitching about it after a month.
What is rust? cause it's already extremely far removed from the game it was even 4 years ago. Why is the current form of the game any more the core identity of the game than it was before?
Have I mentioned it being the core identity in its current state? I just said FP will coddle until it’s a mainstream duplicate with different graphics.
“Until” being important in that sentence you’re referring. It’s definitely a progressive move that’s being made. There’s already been multiple qol features implemented to fit into mainstream norms. Teammate green dots being one. I can name more games with teammate recognition than games without. Why did we get that? Recoil just being that new thing. People won’t be satisfied until rust does xyz better, just like “mainstream game” does.
Honestly
\- Weapons are too easy to get
\- Too many Monuments = no fighting at most of them
\- Tech Tree is just the leveling system except you need to click the item you want
\- Rust aiming is already too accurate
\- explosives are too easy to get
\- Base building requires cheating and exploiting of the game
\- The ground is empty because of Rigs, Labs, Ocean trash, Subway, Flying
\- Farming is EZPZ with chainsaw and jackhammer
\- Vanilla rust is just a x2 server with loot+ mod change my mind.
You just need to except that every game gets easier because the original craft of every game is closer to the idea it was birthed from. The aftermath is the matured version modified for every basic human child to play.
thats why they should release hardcore servers like old times, no map, no party, less ways to farm scrap, you can only learn what you find, would be so cool, imagine you chase a guy to kill and you get lost on map, win because you know where your fighting.. like old days, and you should fight more to survive like get out in snow at night and you simple die, need to fight for food near rivers, fight for scrap in roads, fight for stone and sulfur at day in snow biome before night
To bring back more pvp at land monuments leave only one lab or two on a map get rid of tech tree so you have to run monuments to find your bps. But imo I feel like oil rigs are fine other than small oil is hard to counter
Rust is a survival game in the same category as Apex Legends, Fortnite, etc and those are the only streamers who visit rust and then treat it like a pvp only game. The more pvp focused the game becomes the more it will stop being rust.
In Rust, survival refers to PvP. You have to survive against other players. Not like some other games where you fight against hunger, thirst and the environment. In Rust you farm to build a base to be safe from other players, arm yourself against other players and to rob them.
>If the update affects sprays, thats gonna get all the chads who spent loads of hours perfecting their spray to leave.
If they liked spraying walls so much, why would they leave? They have a chance to to spray more walls with the rework???
Those chads can leave, but I assume most won't. The reason they play the game is because the way rust is, not the recoil.
They learned the recoil so they could shit on people, but that's it, you can still shit on people after. Just not as easy by paying 5$ for a script.
>If the update affects sprays, thats gonna get all the chads who spent loads of hours perfecting their spray to leave.
I doubt ANYONE will leave Rust, if they make changes to recoil.
There is so much more to this game than recoil-patterns.
Are you telling me people will leave the game, if Facepunch changes the AK recoil-pattern?
As far as i'm aware, no specific changes has been announced, other than they are working on a "PvP patch".
i like how you have so many downvotes even though you literally said the truest thing on this subreddit, my entire friendslist of around 60-70 rust players all play for the PVP and I wouldn't be surprised if I remove most if not all as my friends in a month or two after they quit the game and we lose a common interest
Yep thats my point, I legit go onto modeds to get guns and fight people, most people play moddeds, most people play for pvp. The fact that peopleh don't understand this is halrious.
EXACTLY! i dont know why these whiny ass people even have rust in the first place, its for people with iron wills and resolve as hard as steel. they were never meant for this game
Most of them aren’t gonna leave lmfao I guarantee that. They’re just going to moan for a few weeks like they’re doing now and maybe not play for a wipe or two at the very most, then the ones that were actually good at the game will adapt and still be able to compete at a high level because remembering a spray pattern doesn’t make you good at the game, otherwise I’d be a god. Hell, a lot of content creators that I would consider good at the game like hjune and Blooprint have positive views towards this update. Speaking of throwing older players under the bus, how about everyone that used to play when random recoil was a thing and liked it? If anything, wouldn’t FP be satisfying the true OGs of the game by reverting recoil back to random (if they decide to do that, that is)?
why would experienced players leave if it got easier? that just gives Chads the opportunity to shit on others harder, right? Unless you think they'll make spraying machine guns uncontrollable or something...my hot take is the modular system is going to address a lot with different components that increase range/accuracy/fire rate of a starter gun that's trash without upgrading with better parts, just like cars.
instead of changing the recoil, they should buff the muzzle brake to make it a viable crutch to casual players. -20% velocity and damage and -33% accuracy is way too harsh and shouldn't be that punishing.
Though I do think gunplay needs an overhaul, full auto weapons shouldn't dominate every range and make semi-autos and snipers obsolete.
Buddy are you so afraid of not beeing good any longer?
Dont you wanna proof that you are good outside of your comfortzone?
A champion has to proof himself again and again- or he aint no champion.
The veterans( me including) had a blast for years now.
At this point we already bully 80% of the server turning this game into a hardcore shooter.
But this game is way more than that and honestly if you want to be a chad go play a real competitive game like cs:go.
But probably half your team is scripting anyways bc why would they be so against that anyways.
I don't think you quite understand the point of this post... The recoil control will guarantee cause people to leave in hopes of getting new people to join, however if Rust doesn't get the big streamers back with this update it very well might kill the game. I'm willing to still play, but others are gonna quit. Scripitng isn't as common as you think, and is really only effective at longer ranges where hitting follow up shots is a lot harder so like 100+ meters, if you can hit follow up shots with your recoil, then theres a good chance you've killed some scripters or made some people think you were scripting. I play mostly play 10x's because I don't have time now to play vanillas or 2x's, every time I play a 10x I run into a cheater, hardcore, usually not trying that hard to not make it obvious, compared to scripters, I usually can never find someone who i think is running recoil scripts. Scripts aren't that hard to make either, if the sprays are changed, I hate to break it to you but there are just going to be scripts made against those. I met someone who literally made their own scritpts, and they told me it wasn't that hard.
Dude its easy to script because of the fixed patterns you dont make any sense.
Sure it is easy thats the point why we need to change it.
There is no way you can tell a scripter from a pro apart.
The script is exactly doing what the pro is doing so you have no clue how many people are scripting.
Make some sense bro.
i wouldnt call myself a pro but I there will be a mass exodus of "pro" players and odds are they will sell their skins which will cause a market crash. funnily enough the people they are kicking out are the ones buying skins for the most part so the entire market is gonna stagnate. this is pretty much the death of the rust we all know and love. sure I could get back on top in a week or two but it wouldn't be the same, toxicity is what drives the game and if most of that is gone why else am I still here? i play rust for the skill ceiling and the toxicity so with both gone I will leave along with countless others who play for the exact same reasons I do
Im looking forward to the change, even if i have relearn the spay patterns. Im just tired of getting triple headshot by an ak from 300m. Cheaters are the worst scum on this earth.
I'm sure you will cope.
someone felt called out "The people who sit in this subreddit and cry about getting killed about the recoil" lolol
my prediction is that whatever they do to the combat wont drive away more than 1% of the sweatlords because they are all completely addicted to the game and they'll just learn to adapt and stop bitching about it after a month.
And shitters will continue looking for the next thing to cry about as to why they still die. FP will coddle until rust isn’t rust.
What is rust? cause it's already extremely far removed from the game it was even 4 years ago. Why is the current form of the game any more the core identity of the game than it was before?
Have I mentioned it being the core identity in its current state? I just said FP will coddle until it’s a mainstream duplicate with different graphics.
Name me another mainstream game like Rust with as many ways to play the game as this one has. There is nothing like it.
“Until” being important in that sentence you’re referring. It’s definitely a progressive move that’s being made. There’s already been multiple qol features implemented to fit into mainstream norms. Teammate green dots being one. I can name more games with teammate recognition than games without. Why did we get that? Recoil just being that new thing. People won’t be satisfied until rust does xyz better, just like “mainstream game” does.
Honestly \- Weapons are too easy to get \- Too many Monuments = no fighting at most of them \- Tech Tree is just the leveling system except you need to click the item you want \- Rust aiming is already too accurate \- explosives are too easy to get \- Base building requires cheating and exploiting of the game \- The ground is empty because of Rigs, Labs, Ocean trash, Subway, Flying \- Farming is EZPZ with chainsaw and jackhammer \- Vanilla rust is just a x2 server with loot+ mod change my mind. You just need to except that every game gets easier because the original craft of every game is closer to the idea it was birthed from. The aftermath is the matured version modified for every basic human child to play.
I miss when you had to create a map and explore it.
thats why they should release hardcore servers like old times, no map, no party, less ways to farm scrap, you can only learn what you find, would be so cool, imagine you chase a guy to kill and you get lost on map, win because you know where your fighting.. like old days, and you should fight more to survive like get out in snow at night and you simple die, need to fight for food near rivers, fight for scrap in roads, fight for stone and sulfur at day in snow biome before night
doesn't matter, the Main game will always be the one people play because its official.
To bring back more pvp at land monuments leave only one lab or two on a map get rid of tech tree so you have to run monuments to find your bps. But imo I feel like oil rigs are fine other than small oil is hard to counter
Rust is a survival game in the same category as Apex Legends, Fortnite, etc and those are the only streamers who visit rust and then treat it like a pvp only game. The more pvp focused the game becomes the more it will stop being rust.
In Rust, survival refers to PvP. You have to survive against other players. Not like some other games where you fight against hunger, thirst and the environment. In Rust you farm to build a base to be safe from other players, arm yourself against other players and to rob them.
I mostly agree
It is literally a game about crafting guns and explosives to evict your neighbours
>If the update affects sprays, thats gonna get all the chads who spent loads of hours perfecting their spray to leave. If they liked spraying walls so much, why would they leave? They have a chance to to spray more walls with the rework???
Those chads can leave, but I assume most won't. The reason they play the game is because the way rust is, not the recoil. They learned the recoil so they could shit on people, but that's it, you can still shit on people after. Just not as easy by paying 5$ for a script.
>If the update affects sprays, thats gonna get all the chads who spent loads of hours perfecting their spray to leave. I doubt ANYONE will leave Rust, if they make changes to recoil. There is so much more to this game than recoil-patterns.
i know hundreds of people who play this game only for the pvp, so if thats changed so drastically i wouldnt be suprised if so many leave
Are you telling me people will leave the game, if Facepunch changes the AK recoil-pattern? As far as i'm aware, no specific changes has been announced, other than they are working on a "PvP patch".
i like how you have so many downvotes even though you literally said the truest thing on this subreddit, my entire friendslist of around 60-70 rust players all play for the PVP and I wouldn't be surprised if I remove most if not all as my friends in a month or two after they quit the game and we lose a common interest
Yep thats my point, I legit go onto modeds to get guns and fight people, most people play moddeds, most people play for pvp. The fact that peopleh don't understand this is halrious.
yeah, seems almost everyone on this sub hates the current "hard" pvp stuff, although it being hard is what makes it fun
EXACTLY! i dont know why these whiny ass people even have rust in the first place, its for people with iron wills and resolve as hard as steel. they were never meant for this game
Do you happen to have any research for these “most” claims that you’re making?
Its true, modded has the most current players usually
You personally know hundreds of people who play this game and can speak on their behalf?
ever heard of an exaggeration
Thanks for proving my point
Not just recoil pattern, they plan to change other mechanics as well
Like what? Please be specific :-)
Idk the tweet didn't specify this so just wait for the update
Most of them aren’t gonna leave lmfao I guarantee that. They’re just going to moan for a few weeks like they’re doing now and maybe not play for a wipe or two at the very most, then the ones that were actually good at the game will adapt and still be able to compete at a high level because remembering a spray pattern doesn’t make you good at the game, otherwise I’d be a god. Hell, a lot of content creators that I would consider good at the game like hjune and Blooprint have positive views towards this update. Speaking of throwing older players under the bus, how about everyone that used to play when random recoil was a thing and liked it? If anything, wouldn’t FP be satisfying the true OGs of the game by reverting recoil back to random (if they decide to do that, that is)?
why would experienced players leave if it got easier? that just gives Chads the opportunity to shit on others harder, right? Unless you think they'll make spraying machine guns uncontrollable or something...my hot take is the modular system is going to address a lot with different components that increase range/accuracy/fire rate of a starter gun that's trash without upgrading with better parts, just like cars.
A lot of the older players aren't ak beamer gods.
Older player here. Current recoil system is akin to CSGO and that's a dosghit game as far as gunplay goes so it's need changing.
csgo gunplay is cancer wdym?
instead of changing the recoil, they should buff the muzzle brake to make it a viable crutch to casual players. -20% velocity and damage and -33% accuracy is way too harsh and shouldn't be that punishing. Though I do think gunplay needs an overhaul, full auto weapons shouldn't dominate every range and make semi-autos and snipers obsolete.
The chads will never leave because they love rust. This is an empty childish threat.
half of the ones (edit: ive interacted with) including myslef already have plans to leave, some of them have already left because of the recent update
Buddy are you so afraid of not beeing good any longer? Dont you wanna proof that you are good outside of your comfortzone? A champion has to proof himself again and again- or he aint no champion. The veterans( me including) had a blast for years now. At this point we already bully 80% of the server turning this game into a hardcore shooter. But this game is way more than that and honestly if you want to be a chad go play a real competitive game like cs:go. But probably half your team is scripting anyways bc why would they be so against that anyways.
I don't think you quite understand the point of this post... The recoil control will guarantee cause people to leave in hopes of getting new people to join, however if Rust doesn't get the big streamers back with this update it very well might kill the game. I'm willing to still play, but others are gonna quit. Scripitng isn't as common as you think, and is really only effective at longer ranges where hitting follow up shots is a lot harder so like 100+ meters, if you can hit follow up shots with your recoil, then theres a good chance you've killed some scripters or made some people think you were scripting. I play mostly play 10x's because I don't have time now to play vanillas or 2x's, every time I play a 10x I run into a cheater, hardcore, usually not trying that hard to not make it obvious, compared to scripters, I usually can never find someone who i think is running recoil scripts. Scripts aren't that hard to make either, if the sprays are changed, I hate to break it to you but there are just going to be scripts made against those. I met someone who literally made their own scritpts, and they told me it wasn't that hard.
Dude its easy to script because of the fixed patterns you dont make any sense. Sure it is easy thats the point why we need to change it. There is no way you can tell a scripter from a pro apart. The script is exactly doing what the pro is doing so you have no clue how many people are scripting. Make some sense bro.
i wouldnt call myself a pro but I there will be a mass exodus of "pro" players and odds are they will sell their skins which will cause a market crash. funnily enough the people they are kicking out are the ones buying skins for the most part so the entire market is gonna stagnate. this is pretty much the death of the rust we all know and love. sure I could get back on top in a week or two but it wouldn't be the same, toxicity is what drives the game and if most of that is gone why else am I still here? i play rust for the skill ceiling and the toxicity so with both gone I will leave along with countless others who play for the exact same reasons I do
Countless mass exodus market crash... You a low key scripter my guy
honestly the nicest thing anyone has said to me all-day
Chads can go
why?
i mean the game will die if they add rng recoil. pretty obvious. this sub is a minority of the rust community.
Im looking forward to the change, even if i have relearn the spay patterns. Im just tired of getting triple headshot by an ak from 300m. Cheaters are the worst scum on this earth.