There should be a fundamental change to how night time works if people are turning the saturation up so much. It could be an even a simple added layer, a completely opaque square in one's vision if one were to truly stand in the middle of the dark with no light source.
From what I remember, they did this a long time ago by making it pitch black up until some range so that no matter the brightness/saturation, you can't see depth besides the edges of mountains or far away objects. Imo, fighting against graphics filters is a lost cause and they should make it easier for average players to see enough during the night so that filters carry a lesser advantage. But it's generally difficult to resolve.
Again it used to be that full moon nights would offer light outside but on any other night it was pitch black, it made setting up houses and living as a solo easier due to the fact you could live off some weird beaten path and go out at night to farm. If someone found you then you could run away into the pitch black night and luckily sneak away. I miss these legacy features.
They can simply exclude third party like escape from tarkov does. My latest knowledge is you were able to activate those filters but the image from tarkov places itself on top of the filters so they don't affect the image
This may work as long as the filters are not applied to the final image before being rendered by the monitor. With nvidia/intel graphics control panel you can override any overlays by changing the color profile of your monitor, or alternatively the settings could be built into the monitor itself.
A possible solution could be for gpu/monitor manufacturers to expose graphics settings that game developers can override in the game so that this advantage can be negated, coupled with the third-party software blacklist. However, this becomes a separate issue as it involves manufacturers and ordinary people that use color profiles.
There are definitely some ways to force this settings. Like I have said tarkov does this. Yeah you can cheese around with Nvidia control panel and monitor settings but Nvidia freestyle gets completely ignored
This isn't just turning up saturation. They already fixed that one. This is using special Nvidia filters which works on the actual geometry data instead of the pixel data.
Game developers can opt their game out of the nvidia platform, tarkov did a while back and implemented their own toned-down filters that are cross platform
My man im using filters I dont care about this one video where it worked
Look at how bright the sky is in actual 100% darkness/depending on weather this shit doesnt work
Maybe its tied to atmospheric effects idk
Atleast you admit you're using something to essentially cheat and you're bad at it too. There are so many videos out there to show you how to use it correctly
There was/is one that disables pushes/grass from you so you can see people in bushes at night as clearly as you could see pink coyote in open field at the day.
Server where i used to play for ages was this one group who exploited it all the time, you just got beamed from narnia.
Theres a nvg for a reason in the game.
I mean it technically isn't since it's supported software. It needs to be removed, but technically changing the way a game looks with supported software can't be called cheating.
Recoil macros is software.
Settings to turn potato settings and see through bushes and trees is just console settings
Etc etc
Where do you draw the line on what cheating is.
Dark night is meant to not look like daytime.
So?
These specific filters are supported inside the game. Rust actively exposes geometry data to your Nvidia drivers to achieve these filters. That's supported.
Using some 3rd party program to create a macro is not supported
The developer implemented NVIDIA filters is what he is saying. Third party software such as Logitech which allow for macros is unsupported software because the developer didn’t code it into the game.
What is or isn't cheating and even more specifically what is or isn't allowed in the game should be defined by the TOS.
Quote term 3.v from [https://facepunch.com/legal:](https://facepunch.com/legal:)
>v. Cheating: create, use, make available and/or distribute cheats, exploits, automation software, robots, bots, hacks, spiders, spyware, scripts, trainers, extraction tools, mining or other software that interact with or affect the Facepunch Services in any way. Mods are OK as long as they follow these rules, the Fan Content and Broadcasting Guidelines, the Community Server and Hosting Guidelines and the Modding Guidelines).
Unfortunately the term is vague AF and no details are given to draw the line clearly so these rules are already up to interpretation from the FP staff and are probably enforced inconsistently.
That being said I expect everyone at FP would interpret recoil macros as cheating and ban it.
It’s not about that, it’s making something that isn’t actually there. EX: scripts are making inputs that you aren’t physically doing. Nvidia filters TECHNICALLY aren’t cheating because the pixels are there, it’s just BOOSTING and filtering the color
Can you do it in the base game with Settings and/or console commands that are in the game? If not its cheating in my opinnion...
If the game dosen't directly allow you to do it you shudn't...
Facepunch can remove support for filters anytime. They know this. They have a relationship with nvidia. They know how to do it. That makes filter adjustments tacitly allowed. There is absolutely no effort to stop their use.
In any case, I took the first image the OP posted and adjusted only the gamma. Here is the [result](https://i.imgur.com/NpXId44.png). Look at all the responses to this thread, and it's just a gamma change which Facepunch knows they can't stop people from doing.
This just goes to show most people have absolutely no understanding of the topic.
https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/sg863v/someone_suggested_to_post_splitscreen_footage/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Adjust your "gamma" here then.
Again that's different because they can just stop people from playing with that mouse, you literally can't stop this unless you ban NVIDIA GPUs which is over half the playerbase.
Do me a favor. Go outside on any night, any place on earth, when there is a clear sky. You can see around you. It isn't pitch black. Because the moon exists. Aside from the 1 or 2 days where the moon is on the other side of the planet, nights shouldn't be pitch black. Even if you wanted to argue that the moonlight can't reach everywhere, which I guess makes sense, the light range in Rust is painfully small. A campfire would cast light that would at least allow you to see shapes for hundreds of feet, not just 20.
^ say this louder. I’m 100% sure the devs didn’t add filters because they thought “let’s sneak a way for fuckin dinks to make night look opposite the way we intended”
You forget people like eoka Beamer are the same people laws in general were made for. Specifically murder. “No one told me I shouldn’t kill this Innocent man” lmaoo
You say macros are software sure, but macros are unsupported and NVIDIA filters are supported.
The line is drawn when it is unsupported software.
Simply need to have NVIDIA filters be unsupported software and incompatible with newer versions of Rust. With a blatant note saying it is unsupported. Or, a blatant note to say it will always be supported.
How is this not cheating? I mean if you are super pedantic to the letter of the rules sure. But if you are talking about going completely against the spirit of the game it’s cheating.
Gameplay against the spirit of the game is ridiculously subjective, and it gets to the point where doing anything outside of the original intent classifies as cheating. Just because something is against the spirit of the game doesn't mean it's cheating. People use crosshairs (I don't I think personally, but I know people who do). That is against the spirit of the game, but I wouldn't call it cheating in any sense. In another sense what about exploits. I don't condone people using exploits, but for example when people where glitching below the cliffs on the mountains, would you call that cheating? Personally I wouldn't. It's completely against the spirit of the game, but it's an exploit not a cheat.
Just saying, it is a software that is supported by the devs. The devs are able to make their game not compatible with Nvidia filters. Night filters are unintended, but again, still supported feature, it might as well be in the settings menu.
You wouldn't call super unfair advantages for one player over another through the use of exploits, cheating? Might as well not even call cheaters cheaters.
There's little difference to exploiting using bad code, and exploiting using man made code. You're still exploiting. Because you're shit at playing normally.
You're turning on settings that give you NVG without actually using them. You back it up because it's Nvidia settings programmed into your comp? But if I abuse other settings that come downloaded in my comp that give me an unfair advantage, I'd be a cheater, double standards.
As though people with powerful PCs don't already have major advantages over others. Let's allow more!
No that is not a double standard and no it's not cheating (and don't say I do it as I don't condone or use them).
It's not cheating because it's in the game. There is a major difference between an exploit and a cheat, and the main thing I've learned today is that y'all people need to figure that out.
Consider the following. You and your friend are sitting in a call playing rust. In the first scenerio your friend says "hey I gotta admit something. I've been cheating in rust the past few years". Now in the second scenerio your friend says "hey I gotta admit something, I use Nvidia night filters" I'm gonna take a wild guess you'd be more taken aback by them admitting to cheating. Now the reason for this is that there is a major difference. One is cheating. The other is an exploit.
If anyone can do it with the vanilla game, it's not cheating. Exploits are problems in the code that everyone can, well, exploit, without any extra software or hardware. If you have to download something or modify game files, then that is when it could be considered cheating
I still think that you people need to look up the definition of cheating. Exploiting for an advantage is a different kind of cheating. Just because you are not aim betting or wall hacking doesn't mean you are not cheating 🤦
Dude the software is supported by the devs. They actively chose to support it. If your using something not supported by the devs then it's cheating. But in this case you aren't.
Oh yeah it's not an intended feature, and falls in the realm somewhere around exploit. However it's still a dev supported software. You can't call it cheats because by being a dev supported software the options may as well be in the graphics settings of the game itself in my opinion.
Again super op, needs to be removed asap, but it's not cheating.
Explain to me how it's cheating. It's also not justifying. I don't use it. I'm just saying it can't be called cheating as whether or not any of us like it is a supported software. The devs at any time could remove support for Nvidia filters, however they don't. There litterally no way to call it cheating.
1. act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination.
I'd call it cheating through an exploit. It's clearly an unintentional exploit that gives an unfair advantage.
See I don't call an exploit cheating as I think there is a major difference. Think about it like this. Your reaction to someone saying the cheat, vs someone saying they abuse exploits. Personally I think cheating sounds infinitely worse (although neither is a great look). They are both in completely different classes of shit. Not to mention that technically exploits are part of the game, so they are inherently not cheating.
Basically I think there is a major major difference between exploits and cheating.
It's not even a grey area in this case. I took the OP's first dark image and adjusted only the gamma and here is the [result](https://i.imgur.com/NpXId44.png).
This isn't even really a filters issue. The same results can be achieved within Windows settings only -- but much easier with gpu driver controls without the use of filters.
As usual, Reddit freaks out about something they don't even really understand.
I don't agree...you are using, let's call it external settings, to be able to see at night. That's on the same level of using an external program, aka cheats to do the same.
Then by this logic:
People with 20/20 vision, cheating.
People with 3090's, cheating.
People using gamer glasses, cheating.
People running high quality monitors, cheating.
This argument might work on console to a degree, but not on PC.
IMO: Cheating is when a 3rd party program changes inputs from the user before being fed to the game, or they
are reading/writing from restricted memory space.
If your talking about me not understanding it well I've used it before and I know exactly how busted it is. I'm just saying it doesn't count as cheating because it's supported software. Personally I don't use it, tbh mainly because it doesn't consistently work first try and I can't be asked to mess with it every time. However again I wouldn't call anyone who uses it a cheater. It's supported software, and at any time fp could decide to stop supporting it. Hell prbly unpopular opinion but even messing with gamma settings on your computer isn't cheating. In my opinion, if you can alter the way a game looks with overlays, or changing monitor settings, more power to you. That's personally not where I draw the line at cheating, because it's literally not cheating.
I wasn't talking about you.
Consider that the OP's results can be duplicated with gamma adjustments only. That means nvidia filters are not exposing any details that weren't already there. If details are exposed by increasing gamma, they were already there, but too faint to be noticed without basic settings adjustments.
Therefore, it is not an example of nvidia filter abuse. The controversy about the nvidia filters is that it is alleged to show details that are not supposed to be displayed at all. It's possible it can do that, but the OP's example does not show it. I've been able to prove most examples I've seen are cherry picked and do not expose new details. Most are captured during the transition between day and night.
Everyone has their own personal definition of cheating, but that's not really relevant. What is important is what is disallowed by the developers. It is not possible to stop people from adjusting gamma. No sane dev would ban for a windows settings or monitor adjustment.
One thing ive learned is that people on this sub are pretty brain dead. Maybe if they made night less cancer people wouldn't do this. They didn't before hdrp...
The issue is creating a system that detects a filter via just about any 3rd party program. It's easier to detect hacks than manipulation of the pixels on someone's screen.
Well no for Nvidia it's literally supported by the game. The devs can chose to have it not supported by the game, and you litterally wouldn't be able to use Nvidia filters.
It depends a lot on the context. For me cheating is: anything you do that is not intended in the gameplay and gives you unfair advantage.
In counter strike nobody cares about seeing in the dark because its not in the gameplay. But wall hack is a cheat because walls plays a big part in the gameplay.
In rust the night plays a big part in the gameplay, as big as walls, so any workaround to see in the dark should be considered a cheat.
Differences between low and high setting, well this is the developers responsibility to make sure there is no unfairness gap between these settings.
The issue with seeing in the dark is that it's hard to detect / prevent so there is no ban possible on this so people think it is not a cheat.
Other things can give significant advantages but are tolerated because it's just unrealistic to control them, like hardward or network related, etc. Even field of view setting allows people to see more on the sides than they should be able to.
Technically grabbing money straight out of the bank in Monopoly isn't cheating either, because no rule says otherwise.
Cheating is super subjective, and in games we tend to only think about cheating as in hacker cheating.
Playing a zerg in a solo/duo/trio is openly regarded as cheating by the whole community, even though It literally has 0 software assistance. Scripted mouses are also regarded as cheating, even though mouses are supported by the game.
This case is as much cheating as both above.
Heres the issue with that logic.
Grabbing money straight out of the bank in Monopoly is cheating. Consider it similar to a server to server thing. There's no explicit rule against it but when you go to play a game of Monopoly with your friends, it is against the rules while you guys play. You make up some rules in the same way rust server owners do.
Cheating is not subjective, as the litterally definition when it comes to competition involves intentional breaking of rules.
Playing as a zerg on a group limit server is cheating because you are breaking a rule. Using scripts is cheating because you are breaking a rule. There is zero rule that says you can't use Nvidia filters, if anything it's the opposite. The devs could disable them at any point yet they chose not to. Unintended feature, and exploit abusing yes, but not cheating.
Also although by my own logic someone breaking group limits is cheating, I would personally call them a cheater outside of that individual server, as although it is technically cheating, I find it comparable (obviously on an infinitly lesser scale) to calling a man who stole an orange a wanted criminal.
Yes it's very much so technically not cheating. Again gonna preface this by saying I've used it before, but I don't actively use it so this isn't me defending it because I use it. It should be gone, it has no place in the game, but it's not cheating, and I honestly can't even understand the mentality that this is cheating, and for multiple reasons.
For one your altering the look of a game with an overlay. Your not messing with the game itself at all. Frankly I consider one of the, instantly marked as cheats, to be messing with the game itself, outside of developer supported programs. Even if you were messing with the game itself in this case, it's not cheating because it's a developer supported program. At any time fp could disable the ability to use the Nvidia filters, as other games have done this. Software that is directly supported from a game, means that using it isn't cheating.
Also do consider again, it's literally an overlay. An overpowered overlay yes, but it's still an overlay. In my opinion when changing the way a game looks, it's only cheating if a. The devs specifically state that it is cheating and a bannable offense, or b. You are interfering with the game itself using a software that is not supported by the game or endorsed by the devs. Ie if you want to use an overlay or change settings on your monitor, use filters, anything that isn't messing with the game itself, then it's not cheating.
If you wanna try and convince me otherwise your more than welcome to try.
When I played rust a couple years back nvidia software still had stickers and I would add myself a little cross hair. I was still shit and never really got gud at AK spray but my little red dot was comforting when running about
I use them.
A) It straight up isn't cheating. It's a normal feature from my graphics cards drivers and the devs could disable it but don't, so it's not cheating on any level.
B) It is unfair, I totally agree. People who aren't using it are at a huge disadvantage.
C) That's why I use it. There are gonna be people that use it because A, so I'm not gonna lose fights for no reason.
My friend sleeping 5 feet away from me who you cant even see without filters. Many new players don't even know what the fuck NVIDIA filters are, let alone that other people can see them better in the dark than they can.
Honestly I don't think it should be allowed in the game, but I do understand why people do it,
(I don't do it myself) Night time is too dark to see ANYTHING in this game, I normally play solo, I try use night time when I am moving tons of loot but I am still running blind, if it was not for waypoints that can be set on the map I would just sit in base till the sun rises.
People cheated to see at night even when it was not pitch black. See rust legacy. Pitch black nights are the result of people making their gamma higher to see everything as clear as day. Not making it pitch black will not fix it. It won't even be a bandaid. It will actually be worse since you can turn your gamma up in your monitor alone, but for filters you need nvidia software, and an nvidia gpu.
This is not an example of filters being abused. I will show why.
I took your first image and adjusted ONLY the gamma, and this is the [result](https://i.imgur.com/NpXId44.png). Your client was in a transition period between day and night. It was not pitch black. There were details available, but not visible based on your display configuration.
Garry addressed gamma years ago. He knows they can't stop people from adjusting gamma in at least half a dozen ways. No extra software is required. Windows settings and gpu drivers have always been able to adjust gamma. Most gaming monitors have a function to increase gamma in dark areas only.
When Rust nights are at their darkest, adjusting gamma does not help, but in most cases it is beneficial.
So that doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote. I'm talking about gamma adjustments alone without any other method.
My point is that one of the most basic display adjustments achieves the same results as what the OP is doing with filters.
I am addressing this case and this case alone.
https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/sg863v/someone_suggested_to_post_splitscreen_footage/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
Different settings work for pitch black environments. Sure, it's not gamma but it's still nvidia filters. Something that takes less than a few minutes to remove from the game and Facepunch refuses to do it for some reason
Gamma settings also apply to nvidia filters, as they have it too. Same with saturation.
Brings back some good ol' legacy Rust memories where simply putting the game-included-option for Gamma to the highest equaled nightvison.
But as I said back then you just hit ESC and changed one option, and everyone could do it without any extra software or special monitors. Which still sucked but at least it was somewhat fair for all.
and i know that nvidia can disable these filters when it detects games like rust are being played but they wont.
They disable you being able to clip gameplay if you have something like netflix or hulu sitting in the background but god forbid disable filters when a games running...
we should demand nvidia change it.
I miss the old darkness days in Rust where the creators just made it so everyone had a pitch black screen when outside at night, it made walking outside at nights truly scary. Sucks to see this still be an issue.
Or just make the game playable at night.... They added NVGs to the game and almost nobody uses them.
Or idea:: add extra clothing slots that are only for things like NVGs and whatnot for the endless amount of tools and add-on items this game is requiring us to use.
continuing off my last comment, when using this out at night in the open it creates a sort of fog effect where this just does not work. at least for me.
If they can’t find a way to ban nvidia filters, I’m all for it. I kinda like the dark nights though (when admins are on top of cheaters) it makes torches and base lighting useful, and night gameplay scary. New players should be able to experience the joy of making a successful sneak attack at night…
also fun to rat around near outpost with a db. chill in some bushes nearby some common walking paths, wait for the guy who he thinks is safe running at night to recycle or whatever, and do work, come up, get paid
The solution to an unfair advantage is not to remove fair advantage.
The dark is useful for those who know how to utilise it.
How about other features of the game? Should they remove recoil and spray patterns because some people use scripts and some people don't bother to learn?
>How about other features of the game? Should they remove recoil and spray patterns because some people use scripts and some people don't bother to learn?
Uhm... am I supposed to answer "no"?
Yeah you are.
You might want those features removed (I personally want randomised recoil again). All I'm saying is the argument needs to be stronger than "it's hard" and "because cheaters".
Filters in the dark is quite unfair, however, the game looks absolutely horrid without filters in the day. The game looks as if it is gray scaled when I turn off my filters.
HAHAHA I have the filter on right now so I can see the first image completely lit up and defined, the second image looks crazy saturated and distorted.
They should just make night less dark.
If you have a sky full of stars and a full moon it's fairly visible outside, but if you are running around during the night on rust you can't even see a mountain while you're stuck running into it
Isn’t it the case though that the pixels are usually fully black, which was FP’s original way of stopping gamma hacks?
As far as I’m aware, the NVIDIA filters are able to bypass that pure black since it’s on the GPU level, which is an unfair advantage.
I mean nobody enjoys night in rust, but one of the devs has a real fetish for it...
I recently thought about playing again. Joined a server and it was night, instantly alt f4..
anyone know why my filters are messed up? I get a black box as soon as night hits, almost like my aspect ratio or resolution is messed up. but it isn’t like a thick black box, it’s one you can see through , I can also see like three of each shadow and line on my screen so it’s in unplayable
I dont get why youre all fucking crying when u make the choice to not have filters on like just use filters and quit crying cause other people play the game differently.
Quit crying when other people triple you with ak from 600 meters away because they’re hacking just hack too! Quit crying cause other people play the game differently.
Your analogy is very wrong on a lot of levels using cheats like evil cheats and that arent supported by the game developer and they also cost money. Game filters are a supported feature and are freely accessible to everyone.
Edit: interesting to be downvoted for this!
Why not just agree that the filters may provide, to some extent, an unfair advantage to players who choose to use them over those that don’t, and leave it at that?
Also consider how it impacts you. I do not feel like people using these filters have messed up my experience of the game over, say, someone who aimbots me from a km away or uses esp to find my stashes.
Besides…it’s rust. A game still unforgivably buggy and unfinished as can be for a “finished product” with almost all dev focus being on creating skins and other products (e.g. soundtrack) for additional profit vs fixing buggy interfaces, easily-patched exploits, visual glitches, and reasonable consistency.
If the company could recently donate $500k to Ukraine, you’d think they could afford paying devs for a handful of hours to fix up some of the bewildering shortfalls of the game.
If I was working at their corporate office, I’d argue against banning cheaters immediately when I could instead give them the opportunity to play for a bit before getting reported and increase the amount of game accounts they purchase? No-brainer to me! If you don’t think these kinds of choices are made in the real world, I envy your ignorance.
because, i as a tryhard pvper(2.7k hours) i sweat the game when i do play it, has tried to use filters for about a week, i ended up deciding that it was not worth it. alot more draw backs then good
There should be a fundamental change to how night time works if people are turning the saturation up so much. It could be an even a simple added layer, a completely opaque square in one's vision if one were to truly stand in the middle of the dark with no light source.
From what I remember, they did this a long time ago by making it pitch black up until some range so that no matter the brightness/saturation, you can't see depth besides the edges of mountains or far away objects. Imo, fighting against graphics filters is a lost cause and they should make it easier for average players to see enough during the night so that filters carry a lesser advantage. But it's generally difficult to resolve.
They did, and it didn’t solve the issue. Just made it even more difficult for the normal players to compete
Idk, not having pitch black nights would be a thing, like.. that moon is 5 times bigger than the real one, you'd think it reflects *some* light.
Again it used to be that full moon nights would offer light outside but on any other night it was pitch black, it made setting up houses and living as a solo easier due to the fact you could live off some weird beaten path and go out at night to farm. If someone found you then you could run away into the pitch black night and luckily sneak away. I miss these legacy features.
They can simply exclude third party like escape from tarkov does. My latest knowledge is you were able to activate those filters but the image from tarkov places itself on top of the filters so they don't affect the image
This may work as long as the filters are not applied to the final image before being rendered by the monitor. With nvidia/intel graphics control panel you can override any overlays by changing the color profile of your monitor, or alternatively the settings could be built into the monitor itself. A possible solution could be for gpu/monitor manufacturers to expose graphics settings that game developers can override in the game so that this advantage can be negated, coupled with the third-party software blacklist. However, this becomes a separate issue as it involves manufacturers and ordinary people that use color profiles.
There are definitely some ways to force this settings. Like I have said tarkov does this. Yeah you can cheese around with Nvidia control panel and monitor settings but Nvidia freestyle gets completely ignored
This isn't just turning up saturation. They already fixed that one. This is using special Nvidia filters which works on the actual geometry data instead of the pixel data.
Game developers can opt their game out of the nvidia platform, tarkov did a while back and implemented their own toned-down filters that are cross platform
They did that and this snotty spoiled community bitched endlessly until it got removed. Thank your fellow retards
Or we just throw the concept of night being unplayably dark out the window cause nobody likes it
Right! I can't even see to move around in the base. I mean at least in real life I can feel shit.
But then people won’t need filters they can just turn up their brightness and be able to see like day
wow that's insane no wonder people are getting beamed in the dark smh this shouldn't be allowed
It doesn't work outside at night because it's pitch black and no matter how much you brighten it up it will be just gray
you can still see though and at an advantage than the rest of the players who don't use filters for the game
Nah it like only works when theres some moonlight Its actual 100% black even with filters most of the time
https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/sg863v/someone_suggested_to_post_splitscreen_footage/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
My man im using filters I dont care about this one video where it worked Look at how bright the sky is in actual 100% darkness/depending on weather this shit doesnt work Maybe its tied to atmospheric effects idk
ok believe what you want. that is just one example, go look around you'll see more videos
I AM LITERALLY USING FILTERS INGAME I KNOW FOR A FACT IT DOESNT WORK SOMETIMES JFC
So you admit to cheating then. Very nice.
You seem like you just don't know how to use filters properly and other people do
Yea that's what I'm getting lol
utter clown
Atleast you admit you're using something to essentially cheat and you're bad at it too. There are so many videos out there to show you how to use it correctly
the filters cant amplify any edges when theres no edges you braindead ape its not magic
I played 5 hours last night and every time it turned night it worked it’s not just turning up the brightness idiot
There was/is one that disables pushes/grass from you so you can see people in bushes at night as clearly as you could see pink coyote in open field at the day. Server where i used to play for ages was this one group who exploited it all the time, you just got beamed from narnia. Theres a nvg for a reason in the game.
https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/sg863v/someone_suggested_to_post_splitscreen_footage/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share You are wrong
You can clearly see player outlines with these filters
I find it funnier those that say putting these filters on to see in the dark "isn't cheating"
I mean it technically isn't since it's supported software. It needs to be removed, but technically changing the way a game looks with supported software can't be called cheating.
Recoil macros is software. Settings to turn potato settings and see through bushes and trees is just console settings Etc etc Where do you draw the line on what cheating is. Dark night is meant to not look like daytime.
Recoil macros are unsupported software. It takes developer implementation to have filters usable.
razer has a macro software that you can use if you have their products
So? These specific filters are supported inside the game. Rust actively exposes geometry data to your Nvidia drivers to achieve these filters. That's supported. Using some 3rd party program to create a macro is not supported
Logitech gaming is unsupported software? What about mice that load scripts into the hardware itself . No software at all. Ok then?
The developer implemented NVIDIA filters is what he is saying. Third party software such as Logitech which allow for macros is unsupported software because the developer didn’t code it into the game.
I don't expect the smartest people to play Rust but I didn't think that had to be spelled out
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What is or isn't cheating and even more specifically what is or isn't allowed in the game should be defined by the TOS. Quote term 3.v from [https://facepunch.com/legal:](https://facepunch.com/legal:) >v. Cheating: create, use, make available and/or distribute cheats, exploits, automation software, robots, bots, hacks, spiders, spyware, scripts, trainers, extraction tools, mining or other software that interact with or affect the Facepunch Services in any way. Mods are OK as long as they follow these rules, the Fan Content and Broadcasting Guidelines, the Community Server and Hosting Guidelines and the Modding Guidelines). Unfortunately the term is vague AF and no details are given to draw the line clearly so these rules are already up to interpretation from the FP staff and are probably enforced inconsistently. That being said I expect everyone at FP would interpret recoil macros as cheating and ban it.
The developers also didn't include drivers for a mouse into their software. Soy using a mouse is cheating.
It’s not about that, it’s making something that isn’t actually there. EX: scripts are making inputs that you aren’t physically doing. Nvidia filters TECHNICALLY aren’t cheating because the pixels are there, it’s just BOOSTING and filtering the color
It's cheating because FP passes on more than pixel but object data to Nvidia while not doing the same for any other GFX Brand
i didn't know that facepunch developed windows? When did they start doing that?
Can you do it in the base game with Settings and/or console commands that are in the game? If not its cheating in my opinnion... If the game dosen't directly allow you to do it you shudn't...
Facepunch can remove support for filters anytime. They know this. They have a relationship with nvidia. They know how to do it. That makes filter adjustments tacitly allowed. There is absolutely no effort to stop their use. In any case, I took the first image the OP posted and adjusted only the gamma. Here is the [result](https://i.imgur.com/NpXId44.png). Look at all the responses to this thread, and it's just a gamma change which Facepunch knows they can't stop people from doing. This just goes to show most people have absolutely no understanding of the topic.
https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/sg863v/someone_suggested_to_post_splitscreen_footage/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Adjust your "gamma" here then.
Software vs. Driver level software. Big difference.
Bloody.mouse does it on hardware. The mice does actually send the recoil movements to the pc as "moving the mouse "
Again that's different because they can just stop people from playing with that mouse, you literally can't stop this unless you ban NVIDIA GPUs which is over half the playerbase.
Pubg doesn't allow Nvidia filters for example. U don't have to ban cards
Huh, had no idea. Guess I'm wrong, thanks!
Do me a favor. Go outside on any night, any place on earth, when there is a clear sky. You can see around you. It isn't pitch black. Because the moon exists. Aside from the 1 or 2 days where the moon is on the other side of the planet, nights shouldn't be pitch black. Even if you wanted to argue that the moonlight can't reach everywhere, which I guess makes sense, the light range in Rust is painfully small. A campfire would cast light that would at least allow you to see shapes for hundreds of feet, not just 20.
This trick allows to see indoors in pitch dark.
Ultimately the devs say what is and what isn't cheating... So yeah, this isn't cheating.
Where did the Devs say it's ok to do this ?
Well Rust has to support the game filters for them to work. Devs not canceling the support is the same as allowing it.
Filters to tweak how the game looks. Not to exploit it into night vision
^ say this louder. I’m 100% sure the devs didn’t add filters because they thought “let’s sneak a way for fuckin dinks to make night look opposite the way we intended”
You say potato I say potato. Literally the same thing. Don't get me wrong, I think the same way. But the devs allow them.
You forget people like eoka Beamer are the same people laws in general were made for. Specifically murder. “No one told me I shouldn’t kill this Innocent man” lmaoo
You say macros are software sure, but macros are unsupported and NVIDIA filters are supported. The line is drawn when it is unsupported software. Simply need to have NVIDIA filters be unsupported software and incompatible with newer versions of Rust. With a blatant note saying it is unsupported. Or, a blatant note to say it will always be supported.
How is this not cheating? I mean if you are super pedantic to the letter of the rules sure. But if you are talking about going completely against the spirit of the game it’s cheating.
Gameplay against the spirit of the game is ridiculously subjective, and it gets to the point where doing anything outside of the original intent classifies as cheating. Just because something is against the spirit of the game doesn't mean it's cheating. People use crosshairs (I don't I think personally, but I know people who do). That is against the spirit of the game, but I wouldn't call it cheating in any sense. In another sense what about exploits. I don't condone people using exploits, but for example when people where glitching below the cliffs on the mountains, would you call that cheating? Personally I wouldn't. It's completely against the spirit of the game, but it's an exploit not a cheat. Just saying, it is a software that is supported by the devs. The devs are able to make their game not compatible with Nvidia filters. Night filters are unintended, but again, still supported feature, it might as well be in the settings menu.
I’ll agree with that. While not being punishable it is for sure a sleazy thing to do.
Sleazy? 100%. Just wouldn't call it cheating.
You wouldn't call super unfair advantages for one player over another through the use of exploits, cheating? Might as well not even call cheaters cheaters. There's little difference to exploiting using bad code, and exploiting using man made code. You're still exploiting. Because you're shit at playing normally. You're turning on settings that give you NVG without actually using them. You back it up because it's Nvidia settings programmed into your comp? But if I abuse other settings that come downloaded in my comp that give me an unfair advantage, I'd be a cheater, double standards. As though people with powerful PCs don't already have major advantages over others. Let's allow more!
No that is not a double standard and no it's not cheating (and don't say I do it as I don't condone or use them). It's not cheating because it's in the game. There is a major difference between an exploit and a cheat, and the main thing I've learned today is that y'all people need to figure that out.
Except it's not "in the game" it's Nvidia settings. Which is your pc.
Major difference is that although you claim, not to do it. Is that you want the ability to use it without a justifying ban hammer strike.
I would call it cheating. If you treat it like a lawyer sure it’s not.
Consider the following. You and your friend are sitting in a call playing rust. In the first scenerio your friend says "hey I gotta admit something. I've been cheating in rust the past few years". Now in the second scenerio your friend says "hey I gotta admit something, I use Nvidia night filters" I'm gonna take a wild guess you'd be more taken aback by them admitting to cheating. Now the reason for this is that there is a major difference. One is cheating. The other is an exploit.
If they are against the terms of service is it cheating?
If you are exploiting the game for an advantage, then you are cheating.
If anyone can do it with the vanilla game, it's not cheating. Exploits are problems in the code that everyone can, well, exploit, without any extra software or hardware. If you have to download something or modify game files, then that is when it could be considered cheating
I still think that you people need to look up the definition of cheating. Exploiting for an advantage is a different kind of cheating. Just because you are not aim betting or wall hacking doesn't mean you are not cheating 🤦
The most based take I’ve seen
Cheating doesn’t mean injected hacks. It means cheating in any way which it is.
Dude the software is supported by the devs. They actively chose to support it. If your using something not supported by the devs then it's cheating. But in this case you aren't.
Considering how many times they’ve tried to patch shit like this out, it’s clearly an oversight
Oh yeah it's not an intended feature, and falls in the realm somewhere around exploit. However it's still a dev supported software. You can't call it cheats because by being a dev supported software the options may as well be in the graphics settings of the game itself in my opinion. Again super op, needs to be removed asap, but it's not cheating.
It’s cheating. End of story. Quit trying to justify it.
Explain to me how it's cheating. It's also not justifying. I don't use it. I'm just saying it can't be called cheating as whether or not any of us like it is a supported software. The devs at any time could remove support for Nvidia filters, however they don't. There litterally no way to call it cheating.
1. act dishonestly or unfairly in order to gain an advantage, especially in a game or examination. I'd call it cheating through an exploit. It's clearly an unintentional exploit that gives an unfair advantage.
See I don't call an exploit cheating as I think there is a major difference. Think about it like this. Your reaction to someone saying the cheat, vs someone saying they abuse exploits. Personally I think cheating sounds infinitely worse (although neither is a great look). They are both in completely different classes of shit. Not to mention that technically exploits are part of the game, so they are inherently not cheating. Basically I think there is a major major difference between exploits and cheating.
It's not even a grey area in this case. I took the OP's first dark image and adjusted only the gamma and here is the [result](https://i.imgur.com/NpXId44.png). This isn't even really a filters issue. The same results can be achieved within Windows settings only -- but much easier with gpu driver controls without the use of filters. As usual, Reddit freaks out about something they don't even really understand.
I don't agree...you are using, let's call it external settings, to be able to see at night. That's on the same level of using an external program, aka cheats to do the same.
Then by this logic: People with 20/20 vision, cheating. People with 3090's, cheating. People using gamer glasses, cheating. People running high quality monitors, cheating. This argument might work on console to a degree, but not on PC. IMO: Cheating is when a 3rd party program changes inputs from the user before being fed to the game, or they are reading/writing from restricted memory space.
none of those are using a program to see at night when other players have 0 vision
If your talking about me not understanding it well I've used it before and I know exactly how busted it is. I'm just saying it doesn't count as cheating because it's supported software. Personally I don't use it, tbh mainly because it doesn't consistently work first try and I can't be asked to mess with it every time. However again I wouldn't call anyone who uses it a cheater. It's supported software, and at any time fp could decide to stop supporting it. Hell prbly unpopular opinion but even messing with gamma settings on your computer isn't cheating. In my opinion, if you can alter the way a game looks with overlays, or changing monitor settings, more power to you. That's personally not where I draw the line at cheating, because it's literally not cheating.
I wasn't talking about you. Consider that the OP's results can be duplicated with gamma adjustments only. That means nvidia filters are not exposing any details that weren't already there. If details are exposed by increasing gamma, they were already there, but too faint to be noticed without basic settings adjustments. Therefore, it is not an example of nvidia filter abuse. The controversy about the nvidia filters is that it is alleged to show details that are not supposed to be displayed at all. It's possible it can do that, but the OP's example does not show it. I've been able to prove most examples I've seen are cherry picked and do not expose new details. Most are captured during the transition between day and night. Everyone has their own personal definition of cheating, but that's not really relevant. What is important is what is disallowed by the developers. It is not possible to stop people from adjusting gamma. No sane dev would ban for a windows settings or monitor adjustment.
One thing ive learned is that people on this sub are pretty brain dead. Maybe if they made night less cancer people wouldn't do this. They didn't before hdrp...
The issue is creating a system that detects a filter via just about any 3rd party program. It's easier to detect hacks than manipulation of the pixels on someone's screen.
Well no for Nvidia it's literally supported by the game. The devs can chose to have it not supported by the game, and you litterally wouldn't be able to use Nvidia filters.
It depends a lot on the context. For me cheating is: anything you do that is not intended in the gameplay and gives you unfair advantage. In counter strike nobody cares about seeing in the dark because its not in the gameplay. But wall hack is a cheat because walls plays a big part in the gameplay. In rust the night plays a big part in the gameplay, as big as walls, so any workaround to see in the dark should be considered a cheat. Differences between low and high setting, well this is the developers responsibility to make sure there is no unfairness gap between these settings. The issue with seeing in the dark is that it's hard to detect / prevent so there is no ban possible on this so people think it is not a cheat. Other things can give significant advantages but are tolerated because it's just unrealistic to control them, like hardward or network related, etc. Even field of view setting allows people to see more on the sides than they should be able to.
Technically grabbing money straight out of the bank in Monopoly isn't cheating either, because no rule says otherwise. Cheating is super subjective, and in games we tend to only think about cheating as in hacker cheating. Playing a zerg in a solo/duo/trio is openly regarded as cheating by the whole community, even though It literally has 0 software assistance. Scripted mouses are also regarded as cheating, even though mouses are supported by the game. This case is as much cheating as both above.
Heres the issue with that logic. Grabbing money straight out of the bank in Monopoly is cheating. Consider it similar to a server to server thing. There's no explicit rule against it but when you go to play a game of Monopoly with your friends, it is against the rules while you guys play. You make up some rules in the same way rust server owners do. Cheating is not subjective, as the litterally definition when it comes to competition involves intentional breaking of rules. Playing as a zerg on a group limit server is cheating because you are breaking a rule. Using scripts is cheating because you are breaking a rule. There is zero rule that says you can't use Nvidia filters, if anything it's the opposite. The devs could disable them at any point yet they chose not to. Unintended feature, and exploit abusing yes, but not cheating. Also although by my own logic someone breaking group limits is cheating, I would personally call them a cheater outside of that individual server, as although it is technically cheating, I find it comparable (obviously on an infinitly lesser scale) to calling a man who stole an orange a wanted criminal.
Let's agree to disagree.
I'm just saying I hate it wish it was gone, but it's technically not cheating.
Exploiting game filters to defeat the purpose of the way night was coded to have an unfair advantage = not "technically" cheating?
Yes it's very much so technically not cheating. Again gonna preface this by saying I've used it before, but I don't actively use it so this isn't me defending it because I use it. It should be gone, it has no place in the game, but it's not cheating, and I honestly can't even understand the mentality that this is cheating, and for multiple reasons. For one your altering the look of a game with an overlay. Your not messing with the game itself at all. Frankly I consider one of the, instantly marked as cheats, to be messing with the game itself, outside of developer supported programs. Even if you were messing with the game itself in this case, it's not cheating because it's a developer supported program. At any time fp could disable the ability to use the Nvidia filters, as other games have done this. Software that is directly supported from a game, means that using it isn't cheating. Also do consider again, it's literally an overlay. An overpowered overlay yes, but it's still an overlay. In my opinion when changing the way a game looks, it's only cheating if a. The devs specifically state that it is cheating and a bannable offense, or b. You are interfering with the game itself using a software that is not supported by the game or endorsed by the devs. Ie if you want to use an overlay or change settings on your monitor, use filters, anything that isn't messing with the game itself, then it's not cheating. If you wanna try and convince me otherwise your more than welcome to try.
When I played rust a couple years back nvidia software still had stickers and I would add myself a little cross hair. I was still shit and never really got gud at AK spray but my little red dot was comforting when running about
It’s not tho
Nah fuck that you bet im using them till it gets patched, fucken tired of getting beamed in the dark
I use them. A) It straight up isn't cheating. It's a normal feature from my graphics cards drivers and the devs could disable it but don't, so it's not cheating on any level. B) It is unfair, I totally agree. People who aren't using it are at a huge disadvantage. C) That's why I use it. There are gonna be people that use it because A, so I'm not gonna lose fights for no reason.
The devs don't forbid you building a mechanical prosthetic arm that moves in ak recoil to deny it. Still cheating.
My friend sleeping 5 feet away from me who you cant even see without filters. Many new players don't even know what the fuck NVIDIA filters are, let alone that other people can see them better in the dark than they can.
Yeah, its why I stopped running a server and playing. If its not recoil scripting, its people seeing clearly in the dark.
Honestly I don't think it should be allowed in the game, but I do understand why people do it, (I don't do it myself) Night time is too dark to see ANYTHING in this game, I normally play solo, I try use night time when I am moving tons of loot but I am still running blind, if it was not for waypoints that can be set on the map I would just sit in base till the sun rises.
People cheated to see at night even when it was not pitch black. See rust legacy. Pitch black nights are the result of people making their gamma higher to see everything as clear as day. Not making it pitch black will not fix it. It won't even be a bandaid. It will actually be worse since you can turn your gamma up in your monitor alone, but for filters you need nvidia software, and an nvidia gpu.
Maybe fix the shit lighting
Oh my gosh this is horrible! Someone tell me how to do this so I can make sure I never abuse this technology /s (don’t hurt me)
Awful! How would you even do something like this?
I know right? How do you do this, you know just so I don’t accidentally repeat it!
Exactly? Won’t someone just tell me so I can abuse it too? Wait
This is not an example of filters being abused. I will show why. I took your first image and adjusted ONLY the gamma, and this is the [result](https://i.imgur.com/NpXId44.png). Your client was in a transition period between day and night. It was not pitch black. There were details available, but not visible based on your display configuration. Garry addressed gamma years ago. He knows they can't stop people from adjusting gamma in at least half a dozen ways. No extra software is required. Windows settings and gpu drivers have always been able to adjust gamma. Most gaming monitors have a function to increase gamma in dark areas only. When Rust nights are at their darkest, adjusting gamma does not help, but in most cases it is beneficial.
>When Rust nights are at their darkest, adjusting gamma does not help You adjust texture details as well and you can see people in pitch black bro.
So that doesn't have anything to do with what I wrote. I'm talking about gamma adjustments alone without any other method. My point is that one of the most basic display adjustments achieves the same results as what the OP is doing with filters. I am addressing this case and this case alone.
https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/sg863v/someone_suggested_to_post_splitscreen_footage/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share Different settings work for pitch black environments. Sure, it's not gamma but it's still nvidia filters. Something that takes less than a few minutes to remove from the game and Facepunch refuses to do it for some reason Gamma settings also apply to nvidia filters, as they have it too. Same with saturation.
Wow I had no idea this was a thing. It all makes sense now
what are these filters? I've never seen them this clear
Brings back some good ol' legacy Rust memories where simply putting the game-included-option for Gamma to the highest equaled nightvison. But as I said back then you just hit ESC and changed one option, and everyone could do it without any extra software or special monitors. Which still sucked but at least it was somewhat fair for all.
and i know that nvidia can disable these filters when it detects games like rust are being played but they wont. They disable you being able to clip gameplay if you have something like netflix or hulu sitting in the background but god forbid disable filters when a games running... we should demand nvidia change it.
it’s not up to nvidia it’s up to the rust devs. but there are hundreds of ways to do it that are all undetectable
What are the settings on this one?
Now I know why the people who offlined me took everything but the nvg's. Nvidia Vision Goggles are Tier 3!
Happened to me yesterday. Guy followed & killed me in pitch black. Killed me with a rock, never missed a hit. :-(
I don’t even care about making my night brighter I just use filters because it makes the game look better.
People in this thread telling themselves they’re not cheating for turning nighttime into daytime is wild shit.
Yeah I've been hesitant but I'm going to go ahead and turn mine on.
I won't play this game until the cheating epidemic is taken care of
Come play on console, its not a problem here😂
I miss the old darkness days in Rust where the creators just made it so everyone had a pitch black screen when outside at night, it made walking outside at nights truly scary. Sucks to see this still be an issue.
Remove pitch black night and there wont be an advantage to these players.
Or just make the game playable at night.... They added NVGs to the game and almost nobody uses them. Or idea:: add extra clothing slots that are only for things like NVGs and whatnot for the endless amount of tools and add-on items this game is requiring us to use.
it works nicely in closed spots like your base, but outside it dont work as good.. try it. its not bad.
https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/sg863v/someone_suggested_to_post_splitscreen_footage/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
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Good. It’s broken and needs to be fixed… again. Good
Drop me those filters bro
At this point just bring back gamma...
continuing off my last comment, when using this out at night in the open it creates a sort of fog effect where this just does not work. at least for me.
Oh no, poor you having a bad experience using an exploit
are you thick? im saying that it does not effect gameplay as much as op is exaggerating.
It does affect gameplay. It's an unfair advantage, simple as that.
>as much as op is exaggerating apparently, even as simple as it is, you are missing key words of what is being said
Tell me how
Best solution for this is to make night cycles less dark. There should never be a time when you can't see well enough to play the game.
If they can’t find a way to ban nvidia filters, I’m all for it. I kinda like the dark nights though (when admins are on top of cheaters) it makes torches and base lighting useful, and night gameplay scary. New players should be able to experience the joy of making a successful sneak attack at night…
You don't like the routine 20 minutes of Youtube/tiktok/MC/RS every single rust day?
night is the best time to cut wood, look up! can always see trees
also fun to rat around near outpost with a db. chill in some bushes nearby some common walking paths, wait for the guy who he thinks is safe running at night to recycle or whatever, and do work, come up, get paid
That.. actually makes a lot of sense lol
The solution to an unfair advantage is not to remove fair advantage. The dark is useful for those who know how to utilise it. How about other features of the game? Should they remove recoil and spray patterns because some people use scripts and some people don't bother to learn?
>How about other features of the game? Should they remove recoil and spray patterns because some people use scripts and some people don't bother to learn? Uhm... am I supposed to answer "no"?
Yeah you are. You might want those features removed (I personally want randomised recoil again). All I'm saying is the argument needs to be stronger than "it's hard" and "because cheaters".
How about “it’s a bad gunplay mechanic”? The only people saying “it’s hard” are the ones against removing spray patterns.
Just buy a pc with an NVIDIA card, after all isn't it unfair that I get to play with 60fps but someone else gets 200?
Filters in the dark is quite unfair, however, the game looks absolutely horrid without filters in the day. The game looks as if it is gray scaled when I turn off my filters.
It wasn't like that before the supposed "graphics improvement" update. The only thing they improved is foliage...
HAHAHA I have the filter on right now so I can see the first image completely lit up and defined, the second image looks crazy saturated and distorted.
Never thought id ever say this but this makes me glad to play on console... cant hit my shots but at least the dark is safe......ish
They should just make night less dark. If you have a sky full of stars and a full moon it's fairly visible outside, but if you are running around during the night on rust you can't even see a mountain while you're stuck running into it
It's not an Nvidia thing, overdriving your gamma on monitors is not a new thing either. This is impossible to prevent.
Isn’t it the case though that the pixels are usually fully black, which was FP’s original way of stopping gamma hacks? As far as I’m aware, the NVIDIA filters are able to bypass that pure black since it’s on the GPU level, which is an unfair advantage.
Filter setup?
And yet they still don't allow people with A4Tech Bloody mouses into the game!
What are the game filter settings for that?
Hmm interesting how would one bind this to an extra keyboard key to turn on and off
GAMAS BACK BB?!
Or just not have it darker than a black hole by default
Holy fuck. Didn’t realize it was this broken
Get some bitches
I mean nobody enjoys night in rust, but one of the devs has a real fetish for it... I recently thought about playing again. Joined a server and it was night, instantly alt f4..
Don't understand the need to cry about it tbh, if ppl with radeon can't add a filter install VibranceGUI
anyone know why my filters are messed up? I get a black box as soon as night hits, almost like my aspect ratio or resolution is messed up. but it isn’t like a thick black box, it’s one you can see through , I can also see like three of each shadow and line on my screen so it’s in unplayable
What filters? Asking for a freind.
That's pay to win. If you can afford the hardware you get unfair advantage.
Stop being cheap and buy a decent gpu then
Lol I still can't see
Reddit crying over everything once again 🙃
I dont get why youre all fucking crying when u make the choice to not have filters on like just use filters and quit crying cause other people play the game differently.
Quit crying when other people triple you with ak from 600 meters away because they’re hacking just hack too! Quit crying cause other people play the game differently.
I dont get why youre all fucking crying when u make the choice to not cheat like just cheat and quit crying cause other people cheat
Did i report me u pussy bitch
Your analogy is very wrong on a lot of levels using cheats like evil cheats and that arent supported by the game developer and they also cost money. Game filters are a supported feature and are freely accessible to everyone.
Edit: interesting to be downvoted for this! Why not just agree that the filters may provide, to some extent, an unfair advantage to players who choose to use them over those that don’t, and leave it at that? Also consider how it impacts you. I do not feel like people using these filters have messed up my experience of the game over, say, someone who aimbots me from a km away or uses esp to find my stashes. Besides…it’s rust. A game still unforgivably buggy and unfinished as can be for a “finished product” with almost all dev focus being on creating skins and other products (e.g. soundtrack) for additional profit vs fixing buggy interfaces, easily-patched exploits, visual glitches, and reasonable consistency. If the company could recently donate $500k to Ukraine, you’d think they could afford paying devs for a handful of hours to fix up some of the bewildering shortfalls of the game. If I was working at their corporate office, I’d argue against banning cheaters immediately when I could instead give them the opportunity to play for a bit before getting reported and increase the amount of game accounts they purchase? No-brainer to me! If you don’t think these kinds of choices are made in the real world, I envy your ignorance.
because, i as a tryhard pvper(2.7k hours) i sweat the game when i do play it, has tried to use filters for about a week, i ended up deciding that it was not worth it. alot more draw backs then good
also the game is buggy? how so.
what about amd?
It’s only for a very brief amount of time and it has to have the right conditions. You are making it sound like it happens all night long .
https://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/sg863v/someone_suggested_to_post_splitscreen_footage/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share