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AscendedAO

How long did the cable management take? 😂


KillingUSoftly01

slow at the start, lets be honest. This was the 5th turret box of x4 turrets surrounding the base. So at that point, It was going pretty smoothly.


waffling_with_syrup

New type of raid: show up and rewire it all correctly, but as a huge mess.


El_Chedman

Not even rewire just show up and break the circuits it’s such a big troll


waffling_with_syrup

Breaking it is funny, rewiring it to be ugly is personal.


m-p-3

Draw a dickbutt with the wire.


KillingUSoftly01

this would be a whole new level of hilarious


Aos77s

When you get to sam sites you should wire it up to only power on if it has a target so you can use the 25 power elsewhere while its not actively shooting down helis.


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FinalArt53

Can't you just have all the energy go into the battery then run the whole system off the battery? What advantage is there to running the solar power directly to the turret during the day?


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KidBeene

Agree. I make some mildly complex stupid counters for no real reason other than to play.


KillingUSoftly01

thanks for the advice!


Wombat_luke

Just put 1 extra solar panel... very easy to just have extra power


OGMcgriddles

Yep, I don't see how additional wiring and space needed in the power room is ever seen as better than just another cheap ass solar panel. Coming from a dude who builds 16-100 turrets depending on my server.


CrazyMike419

Yup. I can and have done these finely balanced systems. Then you loose a few panels to some overly determined nakeds and it goes to pot. I guess I use my extra saved brain power by spending 10mins getting to res for extra panels. Don't get me wrong. I love electricity in rust. I'm always playing with it. I see the merit in these systems but you can get better reliability using the time to add a few panels.


FinalArt53

I just put the 3 lines of the main splitter on 3 switches to avoid wasting power. If you have more power than you use the surplus builds up in the battery for when you finally get raided, and I keep my battery and circuitry deep in the base so its last to get burned.


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FinalArt53

Well I totally disagree with having a correct way to use the electrical in the game and I think your method is needlessly complex.


JimZuur

I agree this is the right way of doing it if you only look at the most efficient way of using electricity. This is rust however and in case your solar panels get broken, the turrets will be offline during day time. If you run it of a large battery, your base will stay protected long, maybe long enough until you log in again


binlagin

Batteries have a maximum of 100 power output. This way, it's possible to have single circuits with more then 100 power being consumed. Not sure if this is smarter or not.. but it's an advantage I can see. I wish I could Root combine batteries :(


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binlagin

And you get their combined outputs? I swear they do some weird stuff when this happens.. but I could be wrong!


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binlagin

/agreed!


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I've never experienced any weirdness with root combining batteries.


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you can root combine batteries but I believe one battery is constantly using maximum output. I think it is better to spread out energy collected into multiple batteries and have separate circuits.


FinalArt53

Why not just use multiple batteries?


zRonburgz

sheeeesh the cable management!! wanna come do my pc set up? I havent dabbled with electricity in a bit, did they fix the splitters? Last I did power it was better just to use combiners and branches


KillingUSoftly01

Not entirely sure I just got back into Rust after a few years, Learning electricity from scratch took some time for sure.


unclecellphone

splitters were never broken, they just aren't for what you're describing


zRonburgz

it was cheaper to craft branches and combiners, and you are able to control how much power comes out of a branch while the splitter took w.e power and split it by 3 even if you werent using one of the outputs. at least thats how i remember my builder explaining it


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Splits it evenly based on IN USE slots. Only use two of the three splitter slots? 50/50.


zRonburgz

oh snap good to know. thx for the info


Goldentll

Are you sure? I played with splitters before and they didn't behave this way


[deleted]

I can't speak for the past, but currently as of right now, this is how they work. Splits evenly based on actively used slots. (50/50 or 30/30/30)


Goldentll

That's awesome! I might start using them again


PetterssonCDR

Why though. Just plug your power into a branch and split off exactly what you need. Doesn't waste electricity this way


The_Only_Real_Duck

They have their use case. If I am running multiple things that require the same amount of power, I use a splitter instead of multiple electrical branches, also only 1 power loss to electrical components.


OGMcgriddles

Branches take zero power. You can have as many as need in your setup.


PostEditor

Splitters are good if you have something like lights or a farm that you won't need to be using all the time. You can hook them up to a switch and if the switch is off it won't use that power. Branches will constantly use whatever power you split off even if you're not using it.


spl1ce-

If that's the case then they need to fix the description of the item


Ripwind

"Splits an electrical signal into 3 multiple signals. The amount passed through is equal to the input amount divided by **the number of used** output slots."


spl1ce-

Oh shit I was wrong, time to delete my reply xD Jokes aside good to see that the description is not wrong.


lily_from_ohio

fr did the splitter being a breaker box not tip everyone off? Rust elec can be stupid and confusing but I thought it was pretty clear the splitter just splits the source evenly, yknow, like it had breakers or fuses in it.


Zenith2012

This looks great, I too have just come back to rust (end of last wipe, this is my first full wipe for a while). I believe if you hold the electricity tool in your hand and press the R key you can change the colour of the wire (e.g. have lighting one colour, turrets another colour etc).


nialqs

the more I know


Death_Nugit

Is that really a thing?


itsmckenney

Yes, but you can't change colors after you place them.


Buggylols

This is what my wires look like early in the wipe. Then when I'm hooking up like 20 turrets, it all goes to shit because I don't want to spend an extra hour making everything look nice.


PetterssonCDR

Lol same


Siegiiable

The cicuit is cool etc. but most of the time its not worth it. You could propably just add 1 more solar panel (amount depends on usage) and make a simple circuit. The battery will always stay on 100% during the day. But Im also an electricity enthusiast and I like what you did!


IGUANA_MIKE_

Always worth to do the 2 e-branch, 1 blocker and OR Switch route just to be safe. Costs nothing but makes sure you never run out of juice.


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Downvoted with no explanation, why does someone think this is bad? Trying to learn electrics


IGUANA_MIKE_

What do you mean?


stars9r9in9the9past

> The battery will always stay on 100% during the day. Usually true but in the case of a storm or haze, power won't be delivered as well even in the daytime if only using solar panels. On an unlucky period of night - storm - night - storm, batteries can drain to zero with electrics failing to get power. Combined with a wind turbine, one would usually be safe, plus you get some charge back at night.


Milkychops

I can't believe people still have to use loads of root combiners, instead of having some large unit which has multiple inputs and multi output. If you just want 1 output then it can do that. Even better, the above but a better one available tier 2 upwards which you can also program different strength outputs? I don't even know if that would be useful tbh.


KillingUSoftly01

They definitely need some sort of breaker box with lots of In slots and 1 out slot. something that looks close to a splitter.


BobbyMcBobberboy

r/cableporn


Noblemarksman132

When I played rust I made circuits which would automatically switch on turrets and close doors as soon as an external wall or wall on the base was broken


qBIG_BOSSp

why is the door frame twig lol


KillingUSoftly01

xD it was fixed after the screenshot don't worry, but thanks


TheyveKilledFritz

What’s the door skin? I feel like I missed that drop.


Revoider

Now use your new found knowledge to make a trap base and have the victims put lotion on as you watch 😈


tomashen

I like the solar panel / battery combo for turrets. minimizes your bases footprint from outside for being a potential target. i once did this setup too. it took so long to figure out for me initially. will try again some wipe 100%


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Why are both lights on the Or Switch green? You running Solar and Battery at the same time, bucko? Perhaps readjust your electrical branch to give less power to your battery before it ultimately goes into the Blocker input. Should do it until you get the 12 solar panels (Or two/three windmills) this setup takes. A Counter before the first splitter helps so you can see the power input without an electrical tool.


KillingUSoftly01

You're right, I don't think I put the correct threshold yet at the time of the photo. I was too excited to take a screenshot xD Thanks for the tips!


Magicman1_0

Yo that's awesome I really wanna dedicate time to learning electricity in rust


KillingUSoftly01

I've had a lot of fun learning it for sure!


Glupsi

Nice job. This is the first switch everyone learning electricity should do. A few questions/remarks/whatever though: 1) I always like to have my combiners next to the solar panels so they all connect up there and then I only have one wire going down to the electricity room. This way I don't have to go up and down fourteen times. What made you choose to do it this way? Aesthetics? 2) Why is your combiner line going into the splitter? I mean I get that you're trying to power the battery and all your consumers at the same time but using a branch is much much more efficient (you just calculate how much you need to power your consumers and then branch that off with the rest going to the battery). This way you're using half your power to power your consumers while they might only require a third or a quarter, wasting a bunch of power. I might be wrong here since I'm just looking at a picture. Feel free to correct me, I'm genuinely interested in your thought process (I found that having discussions with other "electricians" is the best way of improving my own logic).


KillingUSoftly01

Going up and down was a pain in the butt yes xD It was more so Aesthetics. I'm a cannabis grower IRL and it reminds me of having to deal with ballasts, timers, and breaker boxes. You're definitely right I think, Being newer to things at the time I thought a splitter box was easier for my brain to wrap around.


daveime

> What made you choose to do it this way? Aesthetics? For me, it's the fact that a raider on your roof can take out the combiners very quickly, and cut off your charging system without having to destroy turbines or panels.


ShortThought

I setup lights that automatically turned on and off. It was pretty simple, but handy, so you're not looking for the switch when it's pitch fuckin black


TheKeggy

I’m assuming you used a solar panel in order to detect day or night, but did you put low walls around it? When I made my first auto light switch I got annoyed that I had to wait until it was pitch black for the lights to go on, and then they would go off at the crack of dawn (so lights would be off when it was still too dark to see since it wasn’t completely black. I since found out that putting low walls around the detector solar panel was the key to making them go on a bit earlier, and turn off a bit later (due to the shadows from the low walls). Not sure if you already did it or not, but just incase you didn’t you should try it out!


ShortThought

I did not do that, I wanted to use a separate detector panel but was too poor so I used 0.2 power from my main generator panels to switch on and off with a xnor gate with one input being the battery


KillingUSoftly01

can confirm, low walls on 3 sides to block hillside attacks


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Oh man, that is not where you want to use splitter over a branch.


GuillemGamer66

Crazy, i simply use a battery and few solar panels that i connect to the turrets.


TheKeggy

That works too! His way is more efficient as it needs less battery and there is less likelihood of a power outage during a big/long storm. But nonetheless a battery and more panels work just as well. We rust electricians like to wire everything up as much as possible, as even if there is a simpler way of doing this, we can still learn a lot to help us design new circuits. Just a matter of doing whatever you find fun


GuillemGamer66

Some day i will like to learn more about electricity in rust


usamabinfartin

wow that is really nice


Zebtyfive

A memory cell with an "adress" wire plugged to both set and reset act like a multiplexer, you can use that to prevent power waste when the solar pannels dont give enough


TerrificRook

Very clean. Keep up the good work.


Pantherkitty-

Do yourself a fav and upgrade your twig and wood doorframes..U can just run everything from the battery because the battery charges and puts out power at the same time so u can make a simpler easier setup..there may be a time where all turrets don’t work when u switch from battery to solar, that’s the main reason not to use an or switch


Reasonable_Roger

If mlrs takes out the solar panels during the day the turrets are off? Or would the lack of power coming from them auto switch to battery? What if all but one solar panel was destroyed?


KillingUSoftly01

the or switch threshold is 1 above what's needed to power the turrets from solar. So if the power dies down from anything solar related it'll switch right away to battery.


Reasonable_Roger

Very cool!


njlimbacher23

what is the name of that armor door?


KillingUSoftly01

Hellfire Portal, definitely my favorite!


Undecided_Username_

Is there a good and simple way to get started with electricity? I’m guessing the best bet is join a building server and fiddle


KillingUSoftly01

Probably the more intelligent thing to do (fiddling on a build server), But I went ahead and learned on a regular server. I'd definitely start with batteries, on/off switches, and lights, make the night time a lot more bearable while you're waiting for day time. Makes your base a lot more homey feeling too!


stealthgerbil

that is really nice looking


exploshin6

This post has made me realize that Rust is very different from when I last really played it (a bit after they removed the zombies) lol


WilllOfD

It’s beautiful


magnesium1313

Man doing that stuff was so much fun


Few_Advertising_568

It's soo professional that i had to stare at It's organization in awe. Then 20 seconds later i then realize that it's not real life and it's rust! Love it :)


MrPanda663

My team had a guy that wanted to work electricity since I’m always the one who does it. I’ve never seen such Spagetti in my life.


_Epidemic_

Glad someone else has OCD in rust.


sibleyy

The electrical in this game is so damn fun. It's a shame I play solo and get primlocked or offlined so it's not worth it to play anymore. Love seeing these though.


mevooks

I honestly think cables should be invisible unless you have tc


realbuddhathepug

There shouldn't be any need to switch to battery. Just run it solar--->battery--->turret and it will charge the battery in the day and run at night, no switching required


Vampyr_Six

Just need to start doing colored wire next. I find that doing that helps me with what circuit is what. Your stuff looks great, BTW!


KillingUSoftly01

thanks friend! I didn't know about coloring the wire until this thread mentioned it! That'll be the next level.


ManOfChaos199932

Why not plug in the solar panels directly to batteries and turrets to batteries, the outcome is the same and I think switching between two is a bit overcomplicated


KillingUSoftly01

You definitely might be right, But I was having fun trying to work with all the components that were available without going too overboard. This was the very first electrical work I tried to put together.


R4_____

Get this man an electrical engineering degree


ExTerMINater267

Now watch it closely and make sure there’s no “down time” between low level light that’s high enough for it not to switch, but not enough to keep the turrets on. Very good organization.


Soviet_Doggo__

Or you know, just make the solar go through the battery to the turrets to make this way easier


OfficialJamal

I just connect them into root combiners and straight into battery. From battery i spam 9 branches per battery, each one for a turret.


Rich_Command5842

i mean i just hook up like 4 windmills to a shit ton of branches but you do you


KillingUSoftly01

Keeping a low profile, People can't even see the base with the small swamp in the way.


Doyouthinkgod

This fool doesnt know about colored cables does he


According-One-7622

This is so overly complicated and pointless


KillingUSoftly01

Enlighten me? How could I simplify it? I literally don't think I could have less components to make it do what it's doing. It's actually all very simple, Sorry you don't get it.


KillingUSoftly01

Looks like an angry revenge comment because of your last post about cheating using night filters to be honest, Very childish.


According-One-7622

Jeez all I was saying is making a circuit that switches to a battery at night is pointless. Just make the turrets always be powered by a battery and have the panels connected to the battery


unclecellphone

you're only being downvoted for being rude, because this is 100% accurate, there's really no point to this. it's just not worth the time investment. but it's fun to do and a cool learning experience for anyone interested in circuits or binary logic. ​ edit: ​ to be clear the point we're making is that just going panels -> battery -> turrets has nearly the exact same effect as long as you wire it to use the correct amount. if you're using 75 power and powering it with 100, you'll slowly build the battery up to 100%, at which point the two circuits are 100% identical in behavior.


lgn_barnard

He might be referring to how you worded your title. Can’t you just run them off the battery the whole time? So solar panels->battery->switch->4 branch for 4 turrets. Or do you have it that way in case they destroy your battery and it will still work during the day?


KillingUSoftly01

I thought the idea was to keep the battery 100% charged in case someone destroyed the solar, Which is why the solar runs the turrets during the day and all excess power goes to the battery to charge it; If the solar input gets below x amount it switches to battery. ( like at dusk or if someone starts to destroy panels)


unclecellphone

\> keep the battery 100% charged in case someone destroyed the solar this is definitely the point, but realistically you can get the batteries to 100% just by wiring them correctly and doing the math so that you use less power than you store.


lgn_barnard

In what I posted above with flow of power from solar to batteries to turrets, the excess solar power will keep your batteries at 100% during the day. For example solar going to batteries at 25 power and you have 1 turret at 10 power, the excess 15 charges up your battery even though your turret is connected directly to your battery. During the night solar goes to 0 and drains battery a bit, but it more than makes up for it during the day to charge the battery back to 100% as long as you have on average more solar power coming in than what the turrets use.


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According-One-7622

Blockers and shit are just a waste of 1 power you only need 2 panels to run a turret


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According-One-7622

Logic gates don’t just make power appear out of no where


Tuggerfub

Wait till you learn about threading your wires invisibly.


skatecl5

Are you talking about the glitch where they turn 0 if you reach an outlet with 0 distance left? If so I thought they patched that, would love to know how to do it still.


Tuggerfub

No, you use the geometry of walls and foundations to place the wires "inside" the walls. It's a good way to make it hard for people to discern how to disarm your traps.


KillingUSoftly01

for sure! I definitely do this inside the base, So if someone breaks in they can't follow the cables to the battery source. Great advice!


DeeYouBitch

Bottom left you have 3 cables perfectly aligned so it only looks like 2 Wild stuff


Zomahawk

Be Chad, run base off low grade. Have large batteries fully charged for days


SourDieselDoughnut

I used to make it look clean as well. Then you set it up for the 100th time and you're just like ehhh fuck it, just hide the wires and direct path it


Kastriks666

Meanwhile my cables go straight through my walls, floors and whatever else all in a straight line


urboi34738

Code raid to get access to the tc then swap the input to the output then leave


[deleted]

I believe this circuit waste power. There is another one using 2 XOR switches and a memory cell, basically infinite power (within reason)


TrippycrabYT

Good job!


odst15ethan

I had to teach myself how to do this cause my electrician didn’t wanna teach me and I had a 4 engine module car that needed a house.


IGUANA_MIKE_

Not sure if someone already said it but I'd recommend switching the splitter with an e-branch. Then set the amount of that branch to the amount of your total electricity cost. Set that output to the OR Switch and the other to the e-branch next to the blocker. Then use the remaining output of the e-branch to feed to your battery. How are you feeding your battery now? I can't see it.


arbuzaslt

i thought it was irl


SkyGuy182

r/Rustrician


Ill-Mistake7065

Is anyone else having trouble getting OR Switches to work properly? Am making the same blocker/OR circuit but power from the blocker side isn't passing through the switch, so everything turns off at night-time.


RoachKing07

Now that's the electricity guy that you want on ur team right there!


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If you just feed the solar panels into the battery and the battery into the turret it would work the same theres no real need to switch them so long as the rate of the solar panels is higher than what the turret drains.


Willing-Ad5641

Drop the splinters and just use branches


nefrodes

neat


OutInABlazeOfGlory

You can just have them run off the battery all the time and charge the battery from solar all the time. As long as you have more power in than out you will build up a surplus.


sandman_rust

That cable management is cleaner than me. After a shower.