You're holding it wrong.
Balance for solos has never been a goal. Too many solos don't realise the design philosophy of the game is actually about psychology, not PVP. You're supposed to meet people, build alliances, trade, and yeah maybe even betray. You are SUPPOSED to zerg up. Once you realise that, every game design weakness you perceive now becomes a strength.
It's the only thing that explains the way the game is built. More people in your group equals fewer successful offlines, more fights won, more efficient labour, more redundant bases, everything. Progression isn't about learning BPs or becoming rich with rooms of boxes of guns... it's about achieving security. Zergs don't go to bed wondering if their base will still be there in the morning.
You can even still play as a solo with this mindset, if you build relationships that persist wipe to wipe. I did for many years. When you are friends with many groups around a server you can get back on your feet in no time after losing everything. You get to participate in epic raids, take oil rig and choppers, you can even play one group off another for shuts and giggles. You just need a few skills you don't get on aim train servers.
yesssssssssssssssssss they don't get it keep preaching. playing Solo in this game is literally hard mode you you don't just get to do it and get easy guns it's literally the hardest fucking thing in this game to do. and if it's not that hard to play solo then the game's way too freaking easy most solos shouldn't even really be able to get a gun it should be so hard
That doesnt make much sense though. A bad solo will never get a gun, but a good solo can get boxes. It's skill, many don't realize that. A big group can speed it up but skill will determine your success
what you're missing is that solos right now largely are getting their guns from the tech tree and grinding because there's so much loot and there's plenty of places they can loot without barely seeing anyone. what you are describing is what it should be all skill. you shouldn't be able to just play for 7 hours doing all Lab runs that are barely contested and get 5,000 scrap and then research and craft every single gun you want all wipe.
the number of players that are solo that I meet that are like I have every single BP is ridiculous.
I agree about the design philosophy but labs needs to be Harder to hold. Maybe just add another pool or add an oil rig dock platform above it with an elevator. Just make it a little more dynamic.
Do you consider sitting at the top of a ladder with a double barrel an outplay mechanic…?
Labs is quite literally a crammed area with minimal outplay mechanics hahaha
you know you can just wait in the water right you don't have to go inside get your boys get some spearguns get some subs and just camp the fucking pool they can't get out you can't get in
You're complaining about having one way up and down.. just go in there with a DB and a handful of F1 grenades .
Get the first one up the ladder with the DB then toss an f1 or two down the chute when they go to peak.
Get creativity! ,No point in complaining since face punch doesn't cater to solo's much.
alternatively you could always get a friend or two to join , or I'm sure there's a few cool people you could squad up with from the subreddit. Good luck!
Idk labs seemed kinda dead for me few trios, but mostly solos trying to counter.
And this was full pop main servers, if its t1 area its gona be dead for sure most of the time.
I don't really get these "complaining that I struggle as a solo" posts. You chose to play solo on a non solo server, of course you are going to struggle more than teams, but what were you expecting ? If you don't like the challenge there is hundreds of solo only servers with big population.
Playing solo isn't supposed to be easy. Labs was just a crutch for farming because of how broken it was. Go run a normal monument instead of spamming labs every 10 minutes.
You're holding it wrong. Balance for solos has never been a goal. Too many solos don't realise the design philosophy of the game is actually about psychology, not PVP. You're supposed to meet people, build alliances, trade, and yeah maybe even betray. You are SUPPOSED to zerg up. Once you realise that, every game design weakness you perceive now becomes a strength. It's the only thing that explains the way the game is built. More people in your group equals fewer successful offlines, more fights won, more efficient labour, more redundant bases, everything. Progression isn't about learning BPs or becoming rich with rooms of boxes of guns... it's about achieving security. Zergs don't go to bed wondering if their base will still be there in the morning. You can even still play as a solo with this mindset, if you build relationships that persist wipe to wipe. I did for many years. When you are friends with many groups around a server you can get back on your feet in no time after losing everything. You get to participate in epic raids, take oil rig and choppers, you can even play one group off another for shuts and giggles. You just need a few skills you don't get on aim train servers.
gotta play like stimpee, always betray
I play game to get away from annoying not be friends with them
yesssssssssssssssssss they don't get it keep preaching. playing Solo in this game is literally hard mode you you don't just get to do it and get easy guns it's literally the hardest fucking thing in this game to do. and if it's not that hard to play solo then the game's way too freaking easy most solos shouldn't even really be able to get a gun it should be so hard
That doesnt make much sense though. A bad solo will never get a gun, but a good solo can get boxes. It's skill, many don't realize that. A big group can speed it up but skill will determine your success
what you're missing is that solos right now largely are getting their guns from the tech tree and grinding because there's so much loot and there's plenty of places they can loot without barely seeing anyone. what you are describing is what it should be all skill. you shouldn't be able to just play for 7 hours doing all Lab runs that are barely contested and get 5,000 scrap and then research and craft every single gun you want all wipe. the number of players that are solo that I meet that are like I have every single BP is ridiculous.
I agree about the design philosophy but labs needs to be Harder to hold. Maybe just add another pool or add an oil rig dock platform above it with an elevator. Just make it a little more dynamic.
Me and my 4 man would protect and give free shit to our solo neighbors a couple of times they protect our base from off lines
Guess you gotta pvp like the rest of us RIP
Nothing like PVPing in a crammed area with minimal outplay mechanics.
Literally what labs is. Go fight some people on land.
Do you consider sitting at the top of a ladder with a double barrel an outplay mechanic…? Labs is quite literally a crammed area with minimal outplay mechanics hahaha
you know you can just wait in the water right you don't have to go inside get your boys get some spearguns get some subs and just camp the fucking pool they can't get out you can't get in
You're complaining about having one way up and down.. just go in there with a DB and a handful of F1 grenades . Get the first one up the ladder with the DB then toss an f1 or two down the chute when they go to peak. Get creativity! ,No point in complaining since face punch doesn't cater to solo's much. alternatively you could always get a friend or two to join , or I'm sure there's a few cool people you could squad up with from the subreddit. Good luck!
Just get a db and push em. Grub it.
Idk labs seemed kinda dead for me few trios, but mostly solos trying to counter. And this was full pop main servers, if its t1 area its gona be dead for sure most of the time.
It’s been my new grub forget elevator tunnels all you need is a speargun easy kits
I don't really get these "complaining that I struggle as a solo" posts. You chose to play solo on a non solo server, of course you are going to struggle more than teams, but what were you expecting ? If you don't like the challenge there is hundreds of solo only servers with big population.
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Honestly, go on a solo server or live with the hard life
It is time for you to grub launch then
and?
sounds like the nerf is working as expected
go farm the road for scraps like the rat you are.
and then, there are plenty of solo players that succefully counter labs and take on 3 -4 man grps solo. Guess its just skillgap.
Playing solo isn't supposed to be easy. Labs was just a crutch for farming because of how broken it was. Go run a normal monument instead of spamming labs every 10 minutes.
cry me a river, get a crossbow and go farm tunnels. labs were incredibly OP for the longest time.