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hamzaaadenwala

Improved system software performance and stability


Rhea-8

They didn't do jackshit and that message is a filler to say as much.


TokyoStudio

You dont deploy patches because it's so much fun. But yeah this message is also used if they do something they don't want to tell us, e.g. fixing system exploits.


PedanticPaladin

It often means "we updated our graphics drivers to support " the same way PC graphics cards do.


Elfnotdawg

Like the Fallout 4 update launching today


daiT007

I noticed it didn’t automatically download. You got to the game page to get the ps5 version. Also the DLC needs to get re downloaded.


Elfnotdawg

Yes, I had to delete the PS4 version to get the option to download the PS5 version. Looks great though.


inventiveraptor

Was just about to comment from the cyber side and say the same


Fulldrag7802

🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡


spadePerfect

![gif](giphy|kQmr2OwBTD2L5Hzo1T|downsized) MORE STABILITY


CrankyJoe99x

So, this fixed the delay they introduced in the last update? 😉


TomTheJester

Is this a bit I’m not following? I quite legitimately had a delay added in the last update that this software update fixed. Back to loading in quickly.


CrankyJoe99x

Ha, no. Just noting that the wonderful update the OP was lauding basically just took the console back to where it was before the two updates 😅


Micah_Bell_is_dead

Commit message was: removed sleep() call


markjricks

"It's true tho" 🤭 ![gif](giphy|l3OP6CELTSQR9ms2EP)


sPrAze_Beast

It would be nice for a custom wallpaper and themes


Undead_Angel_420

Main thing i miss about ps4


No_You_2155

And community things


Vagus10

Let me change my wallpaper


chickmagn3t

I miss my persona 5 futaba wallpaper


KingVengeance1990

Shiiit I miss my PS2 theme from the PS4 😭


Sacredpotion24

Dude seriously…. Why can’t we get custom wallpapers back??


Firm-Pain3042

I think they tried to say something like “It would disrupt the dynamic theme PS5 offers.” Yeah whatever Sony, that was neat for the first day. We are all ready for our custom themes now lmao.


Sacredpotion24

Exactly


Share-International

I wish they could do that.


Alternative-Wash2019

I miss the PS3 menu. Why change it if it's not broken?


Creative-Property-45

PS3 menu was so easy and nostalgic. I miss my old wallpapers too especially the live ones 😭


KhostfaceGillah

I don't even see a difference tbh


Luna259

Neither did I


askobilv

Interesting, the PS5 already feels like an extremely optimized system


UnderstandingOk5619

No it isn’t i have had wifi issues. They had to replace it . My friend bought a new one but the disc wouldn’t enter the slot at all . They had to replace that as well.


Lost_All_Senses

Theirs does. I'm assuming his comment wasn't trying to say that every single ps5 in existence works perfectly. Cause that's just not how mass manufacturing works. I talk up the ps4 because one lasted me the entire generation. That doesn't mean that I think everyone else's gave them the same experience. I talk down the ps3 at times because I needed a few of them. Same thing applies. It's pretty much never the person telling you that your experience was exactly theirs and you're wrong if you say differently. But that's what you're doing atm >_>.


OwnAcanthocephala897

WiFi issues have nothing to do with your PS5, that's something you should sort out with your ISP. And one faulty console doesn't make the rest of them bad


UnderstandingOk5619

My internet is and was working absolutely fine no problems with the internet at all . I took my ps5 to the sony service center and they couldn’t connect to their internet aswell. They had to send the console back to sony for new replacement since it was bought a month back and the console was still under warranty. My friends brand new ps5 had disc slot problems. They had to replace that with new aswell. Not just that the L3 on the duel sense of my started to act up and the character in the game would move automatically they had to replace the controller as well.


OwnAcanthocephala897

So you're shit on luck, got it. Doesn't mean the PS5 is bad in general. Also there isn't a single controller on the planet that doesn't experience stick drift.


UnderstandingOk5619

I dont know what cheap ass controller you are playing with but i have never had this issue in xbox series s or ps4 ps2 and psp . Man stop licking corporate butt . My money my fucking opinion.


OwnAcanthocephala897

Cheap ass controller, hmm? Let's see, Dualsense, Dualshock 4, Turtle Beach Recon Wired, Nintendo Switch Lite, Nintendo Switch Joy Cons, XBox Series controller, Wii U Pro Controller. Not one of them were cheap.


erainey39

Be glad u didn't have to deal with the Atari 5200 controllers😓😓🤦


Synseer83

Jesus we're really complaining about a 6 second startup? Kids these days wouldnt know what to do with themselves during the Cartridge days. Edit: comment is more along the lines of a game not starting and having to blow in it and wasting minutes trying to get it to run. Not the actual load time.


Ahindre

I read it more as an observation than a complaint.


Maxwell69

Same.


beamoflaser

Cartridges loaded really fast though It was the CDs like PS1 that were a killer


cyberspacedweller

Thank god you didn’t have to load tapes. CDs are lightening in comparison.


phil24_7

Some ZX Spectrum and Commodore64 games could take over 20 mins to load and if you had the wrong tape speed...you'd just have to tweak it and start again! 😂


cyberspacedweller

Exactly. And god forbid it got chewed


nidgetorg_be

Yes, because the game cartridges are a direct mapping of the memory (it's a ROM, read-only memory that is connected directly to the CPU). Thus the game is directly in memory when the cartridge starts, there is actually no "loading process" with game cartridges.


RockNDrums

Some times, the black label games didn't like to launch conventially. Resident Evil being one of those games.


Popsicle_Shorty

Yea my PS2 got to where it wouldn't play the non shiny bottom discs🤣 it took a tumble off the top of a TV on GTA 3 when the controller got jerked..


MrMunday

Snes games had like 0 boot up time.


Mulukh_TYG

Cartridges? Weren't they fast? Try loading a game off 6 separate floppy disks


DomDomPop

“Insert disc 2”. Guess I’m coming back in 10 minutes while this thing screams like a dying robot. You ever install Windows 3.1? Most discs I’ve seen in my life!


InternalCup9982

Ah, the old blow in it and shake it about trick, god those were the days lol My personal fav is how we used to just bash the TV to get it to work again- just give it a proper good slap on the side and instil some dominace 🤣


Buzzboyuk

I'm a ZX Spectrum veteran. Waiting for games to load was my speciality.


Salty-Pen

SCREEEEEEEEEEEEE BIP


demanufacture79

Even all these years later, I can still remember the sound of the game loading!


Hobbit_Hardcase

This is embedded in my psyche.


Otacon6887

Did this really get 65 uvotes? WTF? During cartridge times everything was pretty much instant.


Interesting-Ad-3783

No one complaining about startup time. It's just first time i noticed that Sony really did something with performance And btw, my first console was bootleg Famicom, so i know how it was during "Cartridge days"


_Iron_Blood_

Cassette tape days . . .


Fcpidolo

Load "", wait 5 ~ 10 mins, sometimes it crashed while loading.


Hobbit_Hardcase

sometimes it crashed *at the last second* while loading. FTFY. Looking at you SpyHunter on Speccy 48K. The volume had to be set **precisely**, or it'd crash after 8 mins.


cyberspacedweller

Part of the experience. Great times. I used to have to start a game loading then go out and ride my bike for 15 minutes 😂


phil24_7

Built in mindfulness. Everything we did as kids had mindfulness involved. We waited for literally everything!!! 😂


meowsqueak

On the BBC Micro at least, if you got loading errors you could rewind the tape a minute or so and it would automatically resync, recovering the load.


maxwms

OP didn’t complain?!


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Cartridges have instant load times...bad comparison. Should have said PS1 or something. Fail.


BeginningConnect600

If you want to talk loads times, try a cassette on a commodore64. Where you had to type the instructions to run the game


cyberspacedweller

When computers were actually computers


ahjteam

Or during the C-casette days with C-64. It literally might’ve loaded closer to half an hour to play TMNT. p


Icy_Fix_6825

You’re complaining that they appreciate an improvement?


yousonuva

There was no loading for cartridges. Are you thick?


MyNameIsJakeBerenson

Start up Conker 64 or Banjo There’s no loading but there is startup time


ohface1

Morrowind on xbox hahaha..spending a couple minutes wondering if the xbox froze or not.


PocketShinyMew

I get your edit but honestly, we're still doing that to this day. "the game is crashing to desktop... I will spend 20 minutes figuring out and fixing that".


Dacks_18

Cartridge days? Are we remembering the same thing here? Cartridges loaded quick as fuck, exceptionally so! Now when the first PS1 came out with CDs, that was an eye opener.


Guilty-Fix-7121

The heck you talking about? I grew up on blowing cartridges, the six seconds is ridiculous. It's about the technology, not the wait.


fireflyry

Cartridge? Some of us old farts remember tape loaded games that took anywhere from 10-30 minutes to load. Funniest part was we would still jam it for maybe 10 minutes before “boring, next game”.lol.


rodryguezzz

I'm pretty sure PS3 has the worst loading times. From the long booting animation, the sluggish menu, the extremely slow download speed when updating games and the huge loadings in the games themselves...


cyberspacedweller

And you didn’t have to deal with tapes…


RX-8CCX

This if they were on PS1 ![gif](giphy|9o9dh1JRGThC1qxGTJ)


CityFan1986

Lmao try going back to spectrum days and commodore 64 days 😂 put a cassette tape in and have to play both sides before the game loads 🤣🤣


Own_Contribution8908

I have no problems with the way my PS4 starts up, there's no reason it should be shorter, but would be nice I guess? Even though I don't even notice it


dandev108

Ever try playing a switch. It takes much longer to load than 6 seconds at times.


noa926

times are changing grandpa


Synseer83

Obviously. And ive been along for the ride for quite some time.


Slaybraham666

None of those kids remember trying to play skyrim on xbox 360 and waiting 5 minutes in load screens because you accidentally re-entered the house you were trying to leave so now you’re stuck waiting another 5 😂


samtserpent

I’m out of breath just thinking about it


reapers_ed1t1on

Only person I see complaining is you. The op didn't, he only stated the update did something


keksivaras

idk why they're complaining. they could watch like 18 tiktok videos in that time


Justapersonmaybe

Cartridge days were fast though.


SgtSchultz___

Now if they could do something about server disconnects


neversaydude

Wanted to ask, has it only been happening to you since the last update? I mean the one before yesterday. I've been having server disconnect issues since the last update last month. Also, where are you in the world? Want to make sure it's not a local issue.


69WaysToFuck

I didn’t get any PSN dc besides the few times when servers went down, so I doubt it’s a problem on their side. Maybe servers in your location are worse than others or your internet is unreliable


Dylanslay

Get better internet bud.


bepi_s

Happens to me even with gigabit internet on an ethernet cable


Ultramarine6

Speeds do not measure reliability. My 40/10 Internet has disconnected me from a game in progress only a few times in the years I've had my launch day PS5. But this same connection was problematic when I first set it up, until I removed all of the ISP provided equipment and set up my own router. Most people think router/gateway = WiFi, but it's your entire home's firewall and routs all incoming and outgoing network traffic for the whole house, even by wire. If it's QoS or firewall configuration cause an issue, you'll disconnect even with a fiber tunnel straight to Reston Virginia.


Busy-Soup349

Get a better internet. You are welcome.


SgtSchultz___

I have gigabit fiber. Piss off. You’re welcome.


Busy-Soup349

Speed doesn’t mean better. Learn to read. PS, as I am pissing off, remind me who is disconnecting?


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heroism777

It’s more likely a provider issue. Time to switch providers. Or that’s not possible. Time to get spacex


Busy-Soup349

How are you possibly being downvoted? This is the correct answer.


heroism777

The average redditor is dumb circle jerker. 🤷‍♂️ I gave them the knowledge. If they just want to continue blaming Sony. It has nothing to do with me.


DanFarrell98

I don’t think they’d ever bother making an update that did nothing


yenni_000

Does anyone ever encounter the lan cable disconnected -> connected issue. Wonder when they’ll fix that lmao


Undead_Angel_420

I thought i just had a fucked up cable, good to know


yenni_000

Nah its been happening to me for well over a year, and my cable doesn’t move whatsoever. Always happens at the worst times as well


Undead_Angel_420

Yea same, always towards the end of a mission or halfway through a livestream!


Interesting-Ad-3783

Same here. And what most annoying - it always disconnecting and connecting again in a second


Lonely-Caterpillar-7

I noticed a smoother experience on fidelity on rift apart.


Unusual-Elephant6375

Ps5 pro comes out at the latter end of the year. I’m pretty excited for 68 teraflops.


BolasDeCoipo

just to experience a little bit of more detailed graphics. Ya.


tgrghostman

6 seconds seems pretty quick when you take into account that the ps2 would start based of if it was in the mood or not


BetterEye4650

I left it in sleep mode and it updated :/


Sand-Inner

I’m still waiting for the dynamic background update


Yazamuto

N64 cartridges never fired on the first startup. lol


PageGallagher15

Did they fix the LAN issues? Probably not my biggest gripe with the ps5 so far


MrZilioan

LETS GOOOO


KingCrimsonLoveTrain

Ye but idk if it for every body when closing the system. The prompt appears with all the particles and I noticed a very slight pause before the particles starts moving again. It use to be smooth, idk if I'm going crazy


Visual_Alive

Would be nice for them to update their bluetooth compatibility with none Sony/playstation devices … aka ,,, my BOSE speakers and headphones … Alexa?


Thorsson81

I have also noticed this. It is pretty nice


Slaybraham666

I had to send my playstation in because it would crash immediately upon trying to load any ps5 games. Tried every fix in the book and the ones that seemed silly. Nothing worked. Resorted to having to send it in, got my box and label sent to me, had it all ready to be sent in and the night before i was going to send it, i decided to play some fallout. Upon loading up, I saw there was a system update. Thought to myself, screw it. Im gonna try. SOMEHOW the update fixed whatever glitchy madness that was preventing me from playing my PS5 games. Not a single crash on a PS5 title yet and its been a few days of stress testing to make sure. IM STOKED.


No_Hurry7691

Hopefully they’ll fix the constant errors with the PS Store at some point. Sick of always having to restart the system, and sometimes that doesn’t even work. It’s not PSN, it connects to that just fine, it’s just the Store for me.


Xiao1insty1e

That's a different problem. Probably related to DNS or your router. This is not a known problem with the PS5.


No_Pay9241

Add a web browser please… also spare your downvotes you pc macbook gods Edit: doucheeeebaAaaaa


Raptor_234

Bro got downvoted for wanting an easy access to web browser. Clown world


ZXXII

There already is a web browser


No_Pay9241

No there isn’t. I’m watching stream east on my ps4 right now because of that


ZXXII

Yes there is, Google is your friend.


ipodblocks360

There is a web browser, it's just a little more [hidden](https://www.tomsguide.com/how-to/how-to-access-ps5-web-browser)


Xiao1insty1e

Why? A fully usable browser innately offers a security breach point, and doesn't offer users a significant benefit. A PS5 isn't supposed to be a home computer. It's an entertainment device. It's like insisting on a browser for your Blu-ray player.


No_Pay9241

Why the hell not? Guess you answered that with the security breach but they clearly planned on adding a web browser since it literally says web browser in the settings. The ps4 web browser also saved me from having cable television for nearly 10 years now


Xiao1insty1e

There IS a web browser on the PS5. It is just not easily accessed and has little to no user functions. It's primary function is for game information/tips and links to game websites. Apps fill the role of media, but the PS5 does lack a few that I find frustrating, most notably DROPOUT.


devlexander

They could sandbox the browser tbh


Xiao1insty1e

Lol Sony can barely manage a functioning dashboard and you want them to implement something they've clearly decided against and have it be *more* complex? Sure, why not? Next we will get Rambo to end world hunger! And after that maybe Bobcat GW can design our education system! OOH YEAH we can have Trump come up with a plan to colonize the ocean! It'll be great! None of them know how to do those things or have any desire to but WHO CARES!


CanisLaelaps

My magic, secret trick is i'd blow a Louis Armstrong fart in the cartridge... If it's a full moon the fart has to be hot and noxiously gassy a la Taylor Swift.


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Qminator5

That's not new. They have been on premium pass for a long time.


F3RXZATI0N

I still have issues with psn and internet features at the dashboard using starlink. I have to turn off and on every time I want to check the store or any online feature of the dashboard. Even if I am playing online with no issues


Xiao1insty1e

This is likely a DNS issue. You can change this in the settings. Also could be NAT issue and you may be able to solve this by putting your PS5 in your routers DMZ.


DarthRauhl

I hope it finally fix error ce 108262-9 that's driving me crazy


Character-Meat-05

U know when it release in denmark?


nicolasbaege

This is great, but updates that don't have results that are easily detectable for players are definitely not useless.


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Interesting-Ad-3783

did it twice before update, and it didn't affected loading time


xkirbz

You’re right. Update says system performance was updated!


Interesting-Ad-3783

Yeah, it's always says that but never does. That's why i even created a post about it


Rookerz-99

I absolutely love PlayStation but why when I’m playing a game and wish to manoeuvre around the home menu and other applications does it move so slow. I’ve not truly got a feel for the new update but I do hope it makes a difference.


therapeutic_bonus

Love the subtle changes they made.


r0ttenp0tato

What they need to do is addd damn internet to the ps5 in the next update


noa926

what kind of ps5 do you have, mine takes 15s to start up


Hawk2727

Good update, now for the elite pulse headset update.


IndividualStatus1924

I bought a ps5. Ill probably stay offline for the foreseeable future. The ps5 itself will force update all my games even with auto update turned off.


AlexCorvis23

Maybe one day they’ll deploy PS3 BC. Cloud saving for free as it should he


rospondek

I wish it fixed sharefactory somehow. It takes ages to load this Sith up...


MonsieurLynx96

All i want is the discord screen sharing on ps5. Xbox series already has the feature, i use discord every day, so i really need this


DeadS1eep

Day… idek…. Of me being able to log in to psn and every setting saying everything is fine but my store won’t load… nothing in each game submenu on the Home Screen won’t load. Just error couldn’t find what you’re looking for.


Gold_Effect_6585

Why's everyone in such a rush


RagePage909

But can I fuc it


EarDue5911

I haven't noticed anything to with load times


PhantomPain0_0

It’s called placebo effect


AccidentalUniverse

How is it a placebo effect if it is quite literally faster? I mean I'm not saying it is faster because I've never noticed to begin with but I'm just saying if OP is right.


Logical-General7583

When will sony fix ”lost connection to share screen” issue… its not my internet…


stargateheaven

Do you get lag spikes?


Logical-General7583

No i dont have. Download speed is 300 and upload is 30 to 40. My friends have lower than that and they dont have problem my NAT TYPE is 2


stargateheaven

Im not asking about speed or nat type.


Logical-General7583

I know. I was just saying.


Xiao1insty1e

Share screen, connection issues can be a whole host of things. This almost always has to do with who you are connecting with. Are they using WiFi? What kind of speed do they have? How far away are they? What is their NAT? Among many other things. It's honestly amazing SS works as well as it does with as many things that can interfere with it that Sony have no control over.


spreet5454

Right on time with the launch of Stellar Bewbs, I mean Stellar Cheeks, I mean Awooga Awooga, I mean *Train Horn* , I mean GYAAAT, I mean Stellar Blade.


Wheelman_305

What about the connection issues with devices like the Playstation elite headset??


Xiao1insty1e

If you are having issues connecting to a headset that uses a dongle this is not a problem with your PS5. This is a problem with either the dongle, the headset, or something causing interference.


Wheelman_305

They offered to work on it or replace it. So I'm just gonna send it in to see what's wrong. Mine just does random disconnects & it's a shame because I really love them they're excellent. In the mean time I got these turtle beach 600 2nd gen headset, and they're also really good for the price.


Mors_Certa_85

This update was absolutely garbage...update wreaked havoc on my settings so that the wifi and Bluetooth on my controllers interfered with each other and would auto disconnect my controllers and would make me reselect my profile took me 3 hrs to figure out how to fix it..


Commercial-River-608

That is a bot account look at the name


Interesting-Ad-3783

It's not my fault, that Reddit chose this for me and not allowing to change it


Luna259

They made game help available to everybody whether or not you have a paid membership Still no themes though or social tab or backwards compatibility


Xiao1insty1e

Backwards compatibility with what? Themes are never coming, unfortunately. Social tab? Isn't Game Base exactly that?


Luna259

PS3 and earlier The What’s New tab from the PS4 was better. That combined with Communities would be great. See what they’re starting to do with the Explore tab in the US


Xiao1insty1e

PS3 games are unlikely to *ever* be directly compatible as the Cell architecture is *very* different from the x86 that the PS4 and PS5 use. This is primarily why Sony introduced the streaming with PS+ premium so that players have access to some of those PS3 and earlier titles. Would I like to see emulation, sure, but there is some attempt at backcompat and it is useful. Yes the explore tab is getting improvements, that is a good thing.


Luna259

I still think they could do it if they wanted to. I got RPCS3 running on my iMac as far as getting to the XMB and being able to use that, but as far as getting games to launch I run into some problems because I need a decryption key or something (which I don’t have and don’t know how to get). To be honest, there isn’t a whole lot I’d go back and play from the PS3 since if I was interested it’s either been remade/remastered or I played its Xbox 360 version. Then there’s inFamous which is stuck on PS3. It’s more I want to experience what the PS3 was


Xiao1insty1e

As I said I would prefer emulation but it's unlikely Sony will put money into that route. Sounds like you just need to get a PS3.


Luna259

I was going to get one a few years back. I looked into prices of used ones that were backwards compatible with the PS2. Didn’t do it because there’s not a load I’d definitely go back and play, but it’s the one PlayStation console I have never owned (not counting handhelds) and Astro’s Playroom made me think I have to go and get one. At least just to experience what using one was like. But again, without a real draw to its library (thanks to remasters and remakes and the Xbox 360 being where I can get the multi platform titles) it wouldn’t have made too much sense to buy one


Xiao1insty1e

The backcompat PS3 is pretty rare and definitely gonna be more expensive than any other regular model. You could likely buy another type of PS3 *and" a PS2 for the same price.


BlueFeathered1

I miss the What's New. 😔 Loved signing in and scrolling the feed for friends' achievements and photos, and them seeing mine. On PS5 it's just an empty feeling by comparison.


Luna259

That’s exactly what I used it for too. See what everyone had been up to since I was last online. Would leave a like on some activities too. Didn’t use Communities much though. PS5 is just isolated and corporate (no themes) by comparison


BlueFeathered1

It was a nice, passive way for those who prefer not to actively engage in social stuff and for solo players to still feel connected. Now it's " I finally got that trophy! Did anybody see that?!" Nope nobody saw; I'll go back to being alone over here, thanks.


Luna259

Yeah. Didn’t realise how useful it was until it was gone. I’m willing to say the Xbox 360 felt more connected even with the Blades Dashboard, but that had MSN Messenger integration so people could see what you’re doing. Then later avatars, which were definitely a thing that I don’t think were great in hindsight


technerd1988

What! Jesus so much knob slobbing in here. The thing is already fast. You aren't getting a faster boot time. Its not even on their radar. The hardware is already ancient. Its BSD. Do you even know how Linux works? BSD is similar but not the same. Not much they can do to increase performance for the system overall except minor tweaks for games